Commons:Deletion requests/File:M10 Wolverine of 628th TDs in Dreux.jpg

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File:M10_Wolverine_of_628th_TDs_in_Dreux.jpg

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Picture taken from a book. Source website does not say if picture is taken by a US military on duty or for personal hobby or by a French civilian Teofilo (talk) 07:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep http://www.5ad.org/pics/norman34.html does not look like a French "Frenchmen with liberators" picture. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 07:37, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
US president F.D. Roosevelt disliked the Free French. Would a US army signal corps photographer have dared to keep a picture with Free French insigna ? Is it not easier to imagine that the same person who wrote the insigna on the wall is the person who took the picture ? Teofilo (talk) 14:40, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted. No evidence for a US military image given. High Contrast (talk) 19:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This closure was premature, see User talk:High Contrast#Very fast deletion. This request is reopened and will stay open for 7 days. Unless someone finds a source supporting the US military claim, it will be deleted. Multichill (talk) 09:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reopening this. Shimgray (talk) 21:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I gave this matter some thought when I first uploaded the image; as Teofilo spotted, it's not quite obvious what the license should be. It's not explicitly labeled with an author; none of the images in that set are, sadly. Some are "personal" photographs, of named people; some are more clearly "stock" photographs (this, for example, I recognise). My strong feeling is that, on the balance of probabilities, it was taken by a US soldier on active duty; the argument that only a Frenchman would be likely to use a Free French poster as a backdrop is a bit hard to take seriously! I do accept it's not possible to be absolutely sure, because there's no clear image captioning in the source; so be it.
However, I've dug around a bit more, and found something interesting. The image is a digitised copy taken from the book Paths of armor, published 1950. Per this chart, we see that a work published in 1950 with a copyright notice would need renewing; the renewal would be due in 1977 or 1978 per here. I've dug through the renewal records for 1977/1978, and failed to find anything. I'm not clear if this would directly impact the copyright status of the image - does it only count if published in its own right? - but the lack of a renewal notice certainly seems worth thinking about. Shimgray (talk) 21:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kept, per Shimgray. Kameraad Pjotr 21:20, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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