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== Photo request ==

For those of you in [[Belgrade]], would you mind fulfilling a photo request?
* [[Jat Airways]] head office - Bulevar umetnosti 16, 11070 Belgrade, Serbia
Thank you,
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 03:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Request for help: House of Župan ==

I have created a user page on the [[User:TRAJAN 117/House of Župan|House of Župan]], but my knowledge on this royal house is very limited. And anyone who can assist me in improving this article, before i move it would be very much appreciated. [[User:TRAJAN 117|TRAJAN 117]] ([[User talk:TRAJAN 117|talk]]) 08:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
== [[:Template:Serbian Prime Minister]] ==

Greetings! I noticed that there are many red links in [[:Template:Serbian Prime Minister]], and this has been the case since the creation of this template over five years ago. This seems like a particularly important set of articles to be made, so perhaps someone with the requisite knowledge can at least stub them all? Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:tan;">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 17:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Lista Aikidoka ==

Postovanje,

Izvinjavam se ako ovo pitanje postavljam na pogresnom mestu i molim vas da me preusmerite ako postoji drugo na kojem treba da ga postavim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Serbian_aikidoka 
Ova strana prikazuje listu od samo dva coveka koji se cak i ne bave tradicionalnim nego realnim aikidom koji je nesto drugo a ucitelja tradicionalnog aikidoa koji je opisan na strani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido ima mnogo vise i mislim da bi bilo posteno da ih stavimo na tu listu. Kako se to radi? Kako dodati ljude na listu?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Cedomirrosic|Cedomirrosic]] ([[User talk:Cedomirrosic|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cedomirrosic|contribs]]) 14:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Mislim da nema potrebe za promenom. U pitanju je kategorija u kojoj se nalaze oni koji se bave aikidom a po nacionalnoj pripadnosti se deklarišu kao Srbi. Dakle kategorija Category:Serbian_aikidoka se ne odnosi na srpski aikido već na Srbe koji se bave aikidom i podkategorija je kategorije: Category:Aikidoka by nationality.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 16:17, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
== Belgrade-Pristina negotiations ==

Is there an article for them? If not I propose the creation of such an article. [[User:IJA|IJA]] ([[User talk:IJA|talk]]) 16:33, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Albanian and Serbian wikipedians cooperation board]] ==

Welcome.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 12:38, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[Palilula neighbourhood, Niš]] ==

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== "Matches", not "games" ==

This may sound trivial but a number of times this error is donne in many articles is incredible. Because of an enormous number of sports articles under this project I do feel a need to adress this here. I noteced that google translation wrongly translates Serbian "utakmice", "mečevi", "igra" (all of them meaning ''matches'') into English "games" and I also unfortunatelly noteced that most Serbian editors follow it instead of correcting it. It should be '''[[match]]''' or '''matches''', not '''[[game]]''' or '''games'''. I supose most of those editors wan´t read this here (mostly IP´s) but I would like to ask editors to correct to ''matches'' all times ''games'' is wronly used in many sports articles. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 04:47, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:OK, we can say ''games'' ocasionally, o´right? Just not allways... [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 22:14, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

== Help needed ==

Help needed in fixing and referencing all articles in [[:Category:Neighborhoods of Niš]]. Each and everyone assisting will be granted with barnstar for help! By me! :) --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 17:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
:Oh, but nowadays with the world crisis and all, we want money!!! :P - Have you tried the official websites? [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 22:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
::Well, most of those Neighborhoods (all) does not have offical site, so all i could find was something on the Niš website, and etc. Anyway, i really need some help. Any fix, add, copyedit, image inclusion, any related reference will be much appreciated. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 22:33, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
== Serbs of Croatia info box ==

There's an ongoing discussion about which famous Serbs of Croatia to include in the article info box. If you have thoughts on the subject please come by and drop a line [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Serbs_of_Croatia#Info_Box_part_2 here]. Thanks! [[User:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>Timbouctou</em></span>'']] ([[User talk:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>talk</em></span>'']]) 14:22, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

== Help needed ==

Can someone join and see [[Talk:Roman_Emperors_Route|this talk page]] on [[Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae]] page? It is about birth place of 17 Roman Emperors. Any good advice is useful, and if the advisory bring some good source... We will all love him/her! :) --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 18:19, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

== Kosovo North Future ==

Hi, I was born in Indiana but I was exchange student in Croatia, I also visited Kosovo, is it best that you guys separate after official referendum, that's what you are thinking?Good, most practical! Do you expect war? What part of serbia are you from?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kosovo_map-en.svg River, a good border?


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== North Kosovo+ ==

Some albanians (they have their albanian signs on their pages) have been deleting things how serbia does not control north kosovo,saying how its pov or some other crap, see what some of you could do about it, certainly not all the info they are deleting is wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=North_Kosovo&action=history northkosovo editor is ok!  
: I dont care much about serbia but christianity in kosovo must be preserved.
: Here's another similar problem, so any serbs here do your job on your people or not: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Serbs_in_Kosovo&action=history
== Ilarion Ruvarac ==

{{Done}}

I believe that [[Ilarion Ruvarac]] deserves much better article. Those who agree with me are invited to expand and improve the article about him.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 21:49, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

== Category:Executive branch of the Serbian government. ==

Please be advised that the above category has been nominated for re-naming at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 May 3]]. All contributions welcome. [[User:Laurel Lodged|Laurel Lodged]] ([[User talk:Laurel Lodged|talk]]) 19:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
== unreferenced biographies of living persons ==

This sounds like a good time to remind people of:

* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Unreferenced BLPs]]

Please watch that list and help fix them. There's a lot of them and at least some of them should be easy to find significant coverage of in newspaper articles and similar. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 07:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:Many thanks Joy. The link for that list should be allways easily avaliable so editors when find themselfs with time could help by sourcing some biographies from the list. I already did my share of footballers that had a quite big list at beggining. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 19:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

== Both sides ==

Maybe we should put both sides of banknotes. Last one are used even today.  
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== Serbs infobox selection ==

Just as the way recently have been initiated discussions on infobox selection at articles of [[Serbs of Croatia]] and [[Serbs of Bosnia and Herzegovina]], a new discussion for infobox selection has started at [[Serbs]] article more precisely at [[Talk:Serbs#Info_Box]]. I just wanted to inform about the existence of these discussions (the three are still ongoing) and to invite more people to participate and share their touths. Thanks and best regards to all. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 19:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
== Notice of RfC pertaining to Kosovo ==

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== Skanderbeg in WP Serbia ==

Should article [[Skanderbeg]] be tagged with {{tl|WikiProject Serbia}} tag? I ask this per:

* Skanderbeg may have Serbian mother, [[Vojsava Tripalda|Vojsava]], 
* he was donating to Hilandar monastery, 
* he is mentioned in Serbian literature numerous times, 
* he proclaimed himself the heir of the Balšići 
* he participated in [[Battle of Niš]] with Serbian army
* .. ...

So, what do you say? For more info, see [[Talk:Skanderbeg#Skanderbeg_in_WP_Serbia|this section]]. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 13:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

:Oh God, not another of those... Anyhow, in my view, yes. WikiProject tags being rather meaningless clutter by themselves - except when they're used to demarcate national territory, *sigh* - the threshold for inclusion is rather low: if the subject falls in any way within a project's scope, it can be tagged. Since Skanderbeg was involved in medieval Serbian history, he can be included. Literature references and donations to Hilandar are rather irrelevant IMO as many rulers did this without actively being related to Serbia, but possible Serbian descent is important, and he campaigned in Serbia. Heck, there's a WikiProject Albania tag on [[Albert Einstein]] because he once held an Albanian passport, so Skanderbeg's case is rock-solid by comparison... [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]]  [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 14:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
::WW Skanderbeg was never a commander of any Serbian army as he was one of the Ottoman commanders at that battle. If WPSRB is relevant then so are WP Montenegro, WP Macedonia, WP Italy.--[[User:ZjarriRrethues|<span style="background-color:maroon; color:white;">'''—&nbsp;''ZjarriRrethues''&nbsp;—'''</span>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User_talk:ZjarriRrethues|talk]]</sup> 14:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Why is that problem? That is the main point of WP tags! And none told that he commanded Serbian army... --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 14:43, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
:::{{edit conflict}} Let's take the article itself: "Skanderbeg and his army ravaged Branković's land to punish Serbs for desertion of Christian cause". This may not be the most important thing Skanderbeg ever did, but the article itself states that he campaigned in Serbia. WP Macedonia is probably irrelevant as the modern Macedonian nation did not exist in the 15th century, WP Montenegro likewise because Skanderbeg was AFAIK not active in Montenegro, but WP Italy could certainly be added, indeed it should be. [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]]  [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 14:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
::::He didn't raid any area of Serbia but the area around Budva and Ulqin in Montenegro(Brankovic's realm).--[[User:ZjarriRrethues|<span style="background-color:maroon; color:white;">'''—&nbsp;''ZjarriRrethues''&nbsp;—'''</span>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User_talk:ZjarriRrethues|talk]]</sup> 14:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Hmmm, well, there isn't really any differentiation between Montenegro and Serbia proper in the 15th century. The Brankovic were Serbian rulers, period. If it were up to me, I wouldn't put the tag there, but I wouldn't remove it either because there is relevance: Skanderbeg was active in the post-Serbian Empire western Balkans, almost by default he interacted with Serian rulers and people. [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]]  [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 15:15, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::I will not go into details whether and how Skanderbeg is related to Serbs or Serbia, but I don't see a reason why not have WikiProject Serbia tag on the talk page. But, I don't think that it should be rated as Top-importance like in WikiProject Albania. Maybe "importance=low" is more appropriate for WikiProject Serbia.--[[User:Kebeta|Kebeta]] ([[User talk:Kebeta|talk]]) 17:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
== Serbian football teams nominated for deletion ==

A bunch of Serbian football teams were listed under [[WP:CSD#A7|criterion for speedy deletion A7]] (failure to state why they are notable).  I transferred them to [[WP:AFD|Articles for Deletion]] at ''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FK Jadar]]''.  Just wanted to bring it to your attention.  -- '''[[User:Selket|Selket]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Selket|Talk]]</sup> 22:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

== RfC notification ==

A new discussion on wording changes to the current guideline to clarify the use of diacritics for subjects whose native names contain them has been initiated. It can be found at '''[[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)/Diacritics RfC]]''' [[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]] 08:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
== Kraljevo earthquake ==

Can someone please take a look at the [[2010 Serbia earthquake]] article? The aid section is way too big and I have no idea how to fix it without removing valid sources. [[User:BytEfLUSh|<span style="font-family:lucida console, courier new, terminal;color:#009911;">BytEfLUSh</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:BytEfLUSh|<span style="font-family:courier new, terminal;color:#004411;">Talk!</span>]] 23:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
:It's a case of [[WP:RECENT]] as it seems the earth quake received quite a lot of news coverage in Serbia at the time although in Wikipedia terms it was nothing special (2 people dead and one of the weakest earth quakes in our 2010 template - this one was 5.3 M<sub>W</sub> and the threshold for inclusion by default is 5.0). Just turn the list into prose and mention notable donors (the ones who are notable themselves and whose donation is worth mentioning). Government's aid merits a single sentence giving it all in a nutshell, no need to list what each ministry and dozens of municipalities had done to help. Public companies tend to donate funds in times of disasters anyway so that part could be scrapped. Help from abroad merits some inclusion but it needs pruning and as for individuals only a few most notable ones ''might'' be mentioned. See articles like [[2011 Yunnan earthquake]]. [[User:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>Timbouctou</em></span>'']] ([[User talk:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>talk</em></span>'']]) 03:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
::I beleave that turning it into prose would be the best way. I would suggest making the text in the form of, ex: ''The municipalities of X, X and X contributed with 2m, X and X with 1.5... bottled water to the victims and workers was donated by Vlade Divac, ... Organisations such as UNESCO (500.000 €), SOS Children´s Villages (100,000 €),'' ... each one keeping the sources next to it that way. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 05:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
:Make a new page on the aid. So the aid subsection in the main article has one paragraph, and then there is a whole new page that goes into more detail. ([[User:LAz17|LAz17]] ([[User talk:LAz17|talk]]) 17:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)).

== need new article ==

We need an article on the 2011 elections. Many other countries have articles in advance, and big sections of them are opinion polls. Here's an example of such data, [http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=06&nav_id=73645]. Could someone make the page? ([[User:LAz17|LAz17]] ([[User talk:LAz17|talk]]) 17:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)).
:Canada for example had an election this year, and the next one already has a page - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Canadian_federal_election] ([[User:LAz17|LAz17]] ([[User talk:LAz17|talk]]) 17:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)).
== Višegrad ==

Should article [[Višegrad]] be tagged with {{tl|WP Serbia}}? Emir Kusturica is building Kamengrad in Višegrad, Also, Višegrad massacres happened in Višegrad. What do you say? I) think yes. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 13:43, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
:The front page says that "this project has been created to improve articles related to [[Serbia]]". [[Višegrad]] is in Bosnia and Herzegovina and already covered by [[WP:BiH]], just like [[Banja Luka]] for example. I don't see how Kusturica's projects are relevant here. The [[Višegrad massacres|massacres you mention]] were committed by [[Bosnian Serbs]] who are, by definition, related to [[WP:BiH]] and the article on the massacres is not covered by WP:Serbia either. So I think not. [[User:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>Timbouctou</em></span>'']] ([[User talk:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>talk</em></span>'']]) 18:32, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

== Request for move of Serbdom to Serbian nationalism ==

I am adding this thread here to let everyone know that [[User:Flinders Petrie|Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie]] &#124; [[user_talk:Flinders Petrie|Say Shalom!]] has opened a move request at article [[Serbdom]] (see: [[Talk:Serbdom#Requested_move]]). Everyone intersted in expressing his view is welcome to participate. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 23:14, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
== Battle of Vukovar ==

I've rewritten, greatly expanded and improved the [[Battle of Vukovar]] article with the intention of getting it to featured status by the 20th anniversary of the end of the battle, on November 18th. Any comments would be much appreciated. [[User:Prioryman|Prioryman]] ([[User talk:Prioryman|talk]]) 22:35, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

== Serbia - Hitler's ally? ==

It should be mentioned that a '''"'''{{flagicon image|S Flag.svg}}  '''[[Serbia under German occupation|Serbia]]" '''is being listed on Wikipedia's World War II infoboxes as an ally of Nazi Germany and the NDH (for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yugoslav_Front&oldid=447119627]). This is due to the efforts of [[User:PANONIAN]], a user who feels the Government of National Salvation of Milan Nedić should be called "Serbia", implying the existence of a collaborationist Serbian country.

The issue is taking place on the [[Serbia under German occupation]] article. That article the user has renamed into a name which uses the name "Serbia". He also believes the infobox should not be about the German Military Administration, but about a "Serbia", which would use that name at its front. To me, seeing "Serbia" alongside "Croatia" and "Nazi Germany" in the Nazi column was, I admit, a bit shocking. The issue is currently being discussed here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Serbia_under_German_occupation#Recent_edits_of_user_R-41], regards  --<span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">[[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:DimGray;">DIREKTOR</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:Gray;">TALK</span>]])</sup></span> 04:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
== COTW ==

People, look what i have found! I remembered this, but i didn't know that we have some traces of it still!

 [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/COTW]]

We MUST do something about this! Keep it alive somehow! Maybe collaboration of the month? But even week will be good! Template is below.

{{tl|SerbiaCOTW}}

So, what do you say? First, sigh your participation in the COTW list! I will do that right now! :) --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 12:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

== Serbian language template ==

Please see [[Template talk:Lang-sr#Italic text]]. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 10:39, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
== census 2011 ==

With census apparently going ahead in October [http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/newsbriefs/setimes/newsbriefs/2011/04/01/nb-04][http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Drustvo/183575/Vukmirovic-Novine-u-popisu-stanovnistva-2011-godine][http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/public/PublicationView.aspx?pKey=41&pLevel=1&pubType=2&pubKey=691] I suggest some preparation - {{tl|Infobox Serbia municipality}} has the 2002 census reference hardcoded so it'll be either stuck in the past or massively inconsistent throughout the period it takes Wikipedians to update all the pages (165 at this time).
For the .hr census this year [[:Template:Croatian Census 2011 First Results|a special template was created]] and used in each individual article - i.e. it's not hardcoded within an infobox template. Even if you don't decide to switch completely to a scheme where each article provides its own population data reference, some adjustment of the infobox template will be necessary - perhaps a new parameter that will allow one to select 2002 or 2011 as the source, or even something arbitrary. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 14:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
:Preliminary census results are released first. Then the official results get released. Those take quite some time to get released so it's best to wait. ([[User:LAz17|LAz17]] ([[User talk:LAz17|talk]]) 15:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)).

== Serbian parliamentary election, 2012 ==

I just made this today, [[Serbian parliamentary election, 2012]], so it would be nice to help expand it. ([[User:LAz17|LAz17]] ([[User talk:LAz17|talk]]) 15:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)).
== Moving the Cathedral of Saint Sava ==

I've requested to move for the page "[[Cathedral of Saint Sava]]", the discussion for which is available [[Talk:Cathedral of Saint Sava#Requested move|here]]. [[User:Gabbe|Gabbe]] ([[User talk:Gabbe|talk]]) 18:36, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

== Serbian institutions in Croatia ==

If someone wants to take part and contribute to improving the quality of articles in [[Template:Serbian minority institutions and organizations in Croatia]] I just inform you about their existence. There are also [[Template:Serbian schools outside Serbia]] and [[Template:Joint Council of Municipalities topics]].  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MirkoS18|contribs]]) 20:48, 25 October 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*Тек сам сад примијетио да могу писати и на српском, добро је за знати за сљедећи пут :). Поздрав. --[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 21:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
== Bosnian war Operation Corridor ==

We've had a persistent problem with POV pushing and edit warring at [[Operation Corridor]] for months now, and it looks like there's a general confusion regarding the timeline of the operation. The Serbian POV edits have limited the time of the operation to around two months, but still mentioned Bosanski Brod three months later, and used Croatian POV sources to reference that (d'oh). The Croatian POV edits have pointed to the preceding invasion of Bosanski Šamac and largely ignored the stated length. I've tried to make some sense of it, and enforced [[WP:ARBMAC]] against the most egregious POV pusher, but I fear it's still incoherent and no less prone to dispute, so I would appreciate it if someone else could examine it and try to fix it properly. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 19:15, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

== Massacre of Serbs by German soldiers and and Norwegian soldiers/paramilitary ==

A number of Serbs were massacred (together with persons of other nationalities) apparently by German soldiers and and Norwegian soldiers/paramilitary.

The article is [[Beisfjord massacre]].

A book, ''[[Beisfjordska tragedija]]'' by [[Ljubo Mladjenovic|Mladjenovic, Ljubo]] was published about 1989. A first hand account, apparently.

Please give advice about how to improve the article.--[[Special:Contributions/85.166.140.237|85.166.140.237]] ([[User talk:85.166.140.237|talk]]) 12:00, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
== RFC ar Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (use English) ==

There has been a brewing issue at [[WP:RM]] over WP:HOCKEY recommendations and how they should be applied over [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and [[WP:UE]]. Basically the hockey recommendation is that Diacritics shall be applied to all player pages, where appropriate as for the languages of the nationalities of the players in question. This is in fact a mandate that does not allow consideration of any other policy on naming. I think we need to resolve the issue of which naming convention we use for ice hockey players. Is it the one for the names of everyone else based on existing policy and guidelines, or do we have a blanket exception for one project? '''Please go to [[Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#RFC_on_hockey_names]]''' per [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3ANaming_conventions_%28use_English%29&action=historysubmit&diff=460530347&oldid=458845218 Vegaswikian (talk) 00:53, 14 November 2011 (UTC)]

== Mass page move request ==

A mass nomination to move articles about sportsmen based on diacritics in their name has been filed at [[Talk:Dominik_Halmosi#Requested_Move]] --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 03:59, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
== List of hotels in Serbia ==

Take a look, watchlist, and after all, expend.

 [[List of hotels in Serbia]] 

All best. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 18:12, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

== Asking for help ==

On the Wikipedia page [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia#Information]] it takes a while exhausting debate on the writing and  writing at all of minority languages in articles about settlements in Croatia. Please if you have time, look at the page and try to help us in forming some kind of agreement. We will highly appreciate your effort.--[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 23:17, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

== Split proposal ==

Please, join discussion, and write your opinion.

 [[Talk:University_of_Pristina#Split_proposal|University of Pristina article split proposal]]

Thank you for your time. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 22:30, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
== WikiWomen's History Month ==

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Serbia will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Serbia's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: [[Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month|WikiWomen's History Month]]. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 22:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

== No Copyright data ==

[http://scc.digital.nb.rs/ Дигитална Народна библиотека Србије], [http://staresrpskeslike.com stare srpske slike], [http://www.archive.org/ Archive.Org].--[[User:Zoupan|Zoupan]] ([[User talk:Zoupan|talk]]) 00:59, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
== Merge? ==

Should we merge [[Roads in Serbia]] and [[Highways in Serbia]] into one article? It is fork as for now... --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 18:01, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, [[Roads and highways in Serbia]].--[[User:Zoupan|Zoupan]] ([[User talk:Zoupan|talk]]) 18:18, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::We don´t have any map in any of them... [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 19:16, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Maybe not. There are [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&redirs=0&profile=default&search=Highways+in plenty of articles solely on highways]. Highways are separate topics from the roads. They have separate regulations and it does make sense to separate them from roads. There is separate template for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Roads_in_Europe roads in Europe] with list of articles about roads in many European countries which already have separated articles about their highways. --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 21:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== AfD [[North Korea–Serbia relations]] ==

There is an AfD on an article titled North Korea-Serbia relations. The article was not tagged to the project but may be of interest to project members. [[User:NealeFamily|NealeFamily]] ([[User talk:NealeFamily|talk]]) 08:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
== Hasan Abazi ==

I just created an article on [[Hasan Abazi]], at the center of a recent Kosovo-Serbia spat, if anybody's interested in taking a look at the article. The politics here are complex and I may well have some errors. Thanks all! [[User:Khazar2|Khazar2]] ([[User talk:Khazar2|talk]]) 02:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

== Noam Chomsky Discusses Kosovo in 1999 ==

Ovaj tekst možda može biti interesantan izvor- http://www.democracynow.org/1999/4/5/noam_chomsky_discusses_kosovo . Ovaj mi se odgovor čini interesantnim:
*'''[[Amy Goodman|AMY GOODMAN]]:''' ''What do you think, Noam Chomsky, should happen right now in the Balkans, in Yugoslavia? What should the US, what should NATO be doing?''
*'''[[Noam Chomsky|NOAM CHOMSKY]]:''' ''I think it is — should be clear to any moderately dispassionate observer that the NATO bombings, apart from being a sharp attack on the principles of international order and world order and international law, apart from that, are having the predictable effect of sharply escalating the atrocities. When you’re carrying out an action that is making a bad situation worse, much worse, first step is to stop carrying out that action. After that — so the bombings should be stopped. After that, efforts should be made to explore the few remaining options. The more violence is used, the fewer the options are. So there are fewer options now than there were two weeks ago. But they’re still not zero. They just become fewer and uglier. It will mean a return to some form of negotiations and diplomacy. The United States and Britain, the two warrior states, basically have rendered themselves ineligible for participation in any such negotiations. But there are powers with a more — and elements with a more neutral stance that might try to undertake them. As I say, the options are very much reduced, and the few that remain are pretty ugly. But perhaps the best that one can imagine at this stage of the game is some kind of partition of Kosovo, which is probably what Milosevic is aiming for anyway, with the northern areas, which are the areas with the resources and the historical monuments and so on, with those taken over simply by Serbia, and the rest, which is — will be a kind of a desert used to return Kosovars that the West doesn’t want. That’s not pretty. It’s ugly. But it’s hard to see what other options remain.''--[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 01:42, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, its interesting. It can be added to [[NATO bombing of Serbia]], or even [[Kosovo war]] article... We'll see. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 19:36, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
== Serbian biography articles ==

Does the project have any guidelines about how Serbian surnames should be represented in English for [[:Category:Serbian sportspeople stubs]], such as [[Talk:Nikola Cacic]] (Čačić) for example? [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 04:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:I expanded the article [[romanization of Serbian]]. Seems there is ambiguity on WP about whether Serbian counts as Latin alphabet (with diacritics) or cyrillic (like Bulgarian). According to current guideline at [[WP:UE]] if Serbian is cyrillic [[Zoran Đinđić]] should be renamed to [[Zoran Dindic]] (as if Bulgarian) and the ć in [[Mirko Cvetković]] should be removed. If, alternatively, Serbian is both Latin and Cyrillic, then naming like [[Talk:Nikola Cacic]] should not occur. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 02:48, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
::Serbian uses both Cyrillic and Latin, and has no relation to Bulgarian on these matters.  Bulgarian follows Russian forms of transliteration while Serbian and Macedonian transliterate to [[Gaj's Latin alphabet]].  See for exemple [[Romanization of Macedonian]].  There is no reason whatsoever to make any other forms of transliteration for Serbian rather than to [[Gaj's Latin alphabet]] which is officially recognised in Serbia.  Serbia is one of the few countries where Cyrillic and Latin scrypt are both officially recognised, although Cyrillic has preference for administrative uses, but only that.  If you notece, half of the Serbian press uses Gajs Latin...

::You already told me in another discussion about the article on [[Romanization of Serbian]] needing an update, but I haven´t had time to see it.  But beleve me, Serbian case is not at all equal to Bulgarian, as Bulgarian doesn´t use Latin alphabet while Serbian does.  See for exemple this Serbian website: [http://www.trojka.rs/vesti/27176-akcije-telekoma-samo-za-starije-od-23-godine.html Trojka.rs].  That is Serbian Latin (Gaj´s).  Latin alphabet probably begin being used in Serbia around the time when Kingdom of Yugoslavia was created in 1918 and the languages of Serbian, Croatian and Slovene were all merged into [[Serbo-Croatian|Serbo-Croato-Slovenian]].  Strange name, I know, it was the predecessor of Serbo-Croatian, as in 1945 Slovenian became again a separate language as the difference in comparison with the other two were substantial.  So, since 1918 Serbian language, which was merged into Serbo-Croato-Slovene started accepting both forms of scrypt, the traditional [[Serbian Cyrillic]] and the Gajs (Croatian) Latin as well.  After WWII even more people started writting Serbian in Latin scrypt and even many press changed to Latin.  No need to tell you that with the beggining of computing and internet latin is in practice even more used.  Some traditionalists begin asking for Cyrillic to be restored as the only scrypr, but the only thing the governament did was only to make a decree saying that all official state documents must be written in Cyrillic, but Latin continued to be official as well, and widelly used troughout the country.

::So I hope is clear that Serbian is [[Digraphia|digraphic]], Cyrillic and Latin, so no need to put it in a separate group of Cirillic-only languages, right the opposite.  Serbian language should be treated same as Croatian, Slovenian, and all other Slavic Latin scrypt societies.  Actually, as Serbian and Croatian are quite related and both share Gaj´s alphabet, Serbian should be dealt in exact same way as Croatian.  Even Macedonian which only uses Cyrillic scrypt achnolledged the strong influence of Gaj´s Latin during the period of Yugoslavia, so they officially transliterate into Gaj´s Latin (with accents and all) and not as other languages like Bulgarian or Russian.  [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 03:13, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

::Said this, Zoran Đinđić should allways be transliterated into Zoran Djindjic in case of diacritics being removed. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 03:33, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi KhpCascais, many thanks. I have been sourcing [[Romanization of Serbian]] with material from Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, a Textbook: With Exercises and Basic Grammar: Ronelle Alexander, Ellen Elias-Bursac: 9780299212049. I have now added a jpg of a cover of [[Blic]]. Since [[WP:UE]] does not say that Serbian is digraphic under present WP MOS there is no explicit guidance, and most readers I would expect would take [[WP:UE]] to mean that [[Zoran Đinđić]] should be renamed to [[Zoran Dindic]] (as if Bulgarian). There may be some value in WikiProject Serbia editors having in place a recommendation of the project regarding how to treat Serbian names, probably in a paragraph on the Project page. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 23:27, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

:But In icto oculi, I am not so sure that most people will think it should be transliterated to Bulgarian, because most people do remember the Serbo-Croatian and its latin form.  They would rather associate Serbian to Croatian then to Bulgarian.  The problem is that there is no article about [[Transliteration of Croatian]] simply because Croatian is not transliterated into English, and as many scholars still regard Serbian and Croatian to be part of one Serbo-Crotian language, the Serbian latin (same as Croatian one) is obviously the one to be used.  Resumingly, Serbian transliterates into English in its Latin form, exactly the same as Croatian does.  What you want to do is to see a formula we could use to include this in [[WP:UE]] and to source it, am I right? [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 08:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

:Actually, if you notece, even Bulgarian is ambiguos in its transliteration, and has two forms, the one used at UN which uses Serbo-Croatian Latin letters (č,š,ž...) and the official one, adopted in 2006, which replaces this letters with ch,sh,zh.  See: [[Transliteration_of_Bulgarian_into_English#Romanization_sample]]. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 08:18, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
::Hi FkpCascais, I'd like to believe you were right, but unfortunately I think you're probably wrong - I'm reasonably well travelled (I'd like to think) and have CDs of Croatian and Serbian music, and speak other Slavic languages, and yet I was totally wrong about Serbian. I only 1 month ago was saying to another User on Wp "Serbian doesn't count under WP:UE, it is cyrillic" . I had this Serbian = cyrillic, Croatian = Latin idea in my head from the 1990s. If I was badly wrong, how many other en.wp editors will be wrong? It might help to make a formula to include in [[WP:UE]], but actually the formula is already on WP at [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)#Serbian]] it's just that few non-Serbian editors will be aware. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 08:37, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
:::OK, I see, so what about making one simple reference at [[WP:UE]] same way as it is found in the link you just provided? Maybe something like - "''As Serbian language uses both alphabets, [[Serbian Cyrillic alphabet|Cyrillic]] and [[Gaj's Latin alphabet|Latin]], it is transliterated into English in its Latin form''." - I mean, I just giving an idea, maybe you have a better idea or rephrase it better?  I just remembered, this counts for [[Bosnian Language]] too, as they also have the same two alphabets as official. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 08:55, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Hi. Perhaps a bit awkward and over-prominent to add "Names not originally in a Latin alphabet, such as Greek, Chinese, or Russian names [but not Serbian and Bosnian], must be transliterated" . Might be easier to have a footnote "Latin alphabets include.... Serbian"  I don't know. ''There's no hurry.'' Some reference here or [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic)#Serbian]] might be better? or simply slow measured Talk there. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 09:44, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
::::I think that the fact that you want to make a complete sentence including many languages complicates things.  I was thinking of rather making one simple sentence only refering to Serbian and Bosnian as special case, similar to the one I put in the exemple.  [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 11:43, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
:You're right. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 11:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
::They could be used as an example of a nonexhausive list. [[User:Agathoclea|Agathoclea]] ([[User talk:Agathoclea|talk]]) 13:12, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
:::I don´t want to sound stupid but, what do you mean? [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 02:12, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Agathoclea, thanks for posting [http://books.google.de/books?id=W39oSS7c2xAC&pg=PA225&dq=Ana+Ivanovic&hl=de&sa=X&ei=JAKwT8_oHYeo4gSGt7S7CQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Ana%20Ivanovic&f=false Grasso's Historical Dictionary of Tennis] in relation to [[Talk:Ana Ivanovic]], it's an interesting source given that tennis/hockey are the two recurrent areas of resistance to general en.wp BLP practice. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 22:54, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

== Author needed ==

{{collapse top|Solved:The article already exists.}}

Vast majority of countries have this article. Does anyone know enough to create it?

 [[List of birds of Serbia]]

I would start it, but i really dont know anything about this subject. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 17:56, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:[[List of birds of Serbia and Montenegro]]--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 18:08, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::Bravo!! I didnt saw that! --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 18:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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== DYK ==

I am informing you all that we should from now on include all our DYK articles in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Did you know...|this section]], and then add article name in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Showcase|this section]], under relevant alphabetic order. If your former DYK is not here, add it! :) All best! --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 12:28, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks for your efforts WhiteWriter. You did very good job with new design. Maybe [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Serbia/Showcase Showcase] is enough?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 13:03, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:Well, it is definitly most important! I will add my own in the future, so, just wanted to let you know... :) --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 13:11, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

== Timeline of Serbian history ==

We should somehow fix and expand this article. It is not good like this. 

 Timeline of Serbian history

Anyway, for any advice or help, i am here. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 15:31, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
== [[Byzantine civil war of 1341–1347]] FAC ==

The [[Byzantine civil war of 1341–1347]] article, which has a significant Serbian element, is undergoing its [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Byzantine civil war of 1341–1347/archive2|2nd FA candidacy]]. Any interested user is invited to state his/her opinion and offer criticism! [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]]  [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 12:00, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
== new [[WP:SERBIANNAMES]] shortcut ==

{{shortcut|WP:SERBIANNAMES}}
Given the unfamiliarity of WP users with existing naming conventions (as for example in the rename of Ana Ivanović to [[Talk:Ana Ivanovic]], I created a shortcut which may be useful in future. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 00:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
== Perth requested-move notification ==

{{Ombox|text=An earlier requested-move survey generated lots of controversy and an arbitration case.<br/><br/>  Therefore, this one is being posted here and in many other places, to gather a very wide range of opinions outside of the Scotland and Australia WikiProjects.}}

A [[WP:RM|requested move survey]] was started at [[Talk:Perth_(disambiguation)#Requested_move]], which proposes to move:
* [[Perth]] → {{no redirect|Perth, Western Australia}}
* [[Perth, Scotland]] → {{no redirect|Perth, Perthshire}}
* [[Perth (disambiguation)]] → {{no redirect|Perth}}

'''Background:''' There was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Perth&oldid=499378455#Requested_move a previous requested-move survey] which ran from late May to mid June.  There was a great deal of controversy surrounding the closure and subsequent events, which involved a number of reverts and re-reverts which are the subject of [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Perth|an ongoing arbitration case]].  There was [[Wikipedia:Move review#Perth.2C_Western_Australia_.28closed.29|a move review process]], which was closed with a finding that the original requested-move closure was endorsed; however, the move review process is relatively new and untried. — [[User:P.T. Aufrette|P.T. Aufrette]] ([[User talk:P.T. Aufrette|talk]]) 03:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

== Serbian Radical Party ==

[[Serbian Radical Party]], an article that  {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|User talk|you|your project}} may be interested in, has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the  discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Talk:Serbian Radical Party{{#if:1|/GA1}}|good article reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. [[User:Aircorn|AIR<span style="color:green;">'''''corn'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Aircorn|(talk)]] 23:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
== WikiProject Serbia acceptance of A-Class assessment by WikiProject Military History ==

G'day all,
This project does not have a track record of many A-Class reviews. In order to progress more articles to A-Class and FA status within this WikiProject, I propose that we agree to accept A-Class assessments from WikiProject Military History, which has an active and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review|comprehensive process for A-Class review]]. Thus, if an article passes A-Class for WikiProject Military History, it would automatically be promoted to A-Class status in this WikiProject as well.[[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User talk:Peacemaker67|talk]]) 07:24, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

== Serbian Radical Party - Good article reassessment ==

[[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Serbian Radical Party/1]] - Please, join the discussion. --<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">[[User talk:Wustenfuchs|<span style="font-size:medium; color:Black;">Wustenfuchs</span>]]</span> 01:46, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
== Ruđer Bošković ==

Should [[Ruđer Bošković]] article be tagged with WPSERBIA tag? Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts ranks him among the 100 most prominent Serbs, but Croatia claims him as their own. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 08:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== Serbia and 100 medals ==

I need someone to comment here.

[[Talk:Serbia at the Olympics]]

Thanks in advance. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 19:34, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
== [[Talk:Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia]] ==

There is a discussion on the [[Talk:Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia]] which could benefit from the opinion of the members of this project.

The name of article ''Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia'' is not COMMONNAME and there is a consensus that it should be changed.

The topic of this article is of course notable, but its official name [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#No_established_usage_in_English-language_sources has not yet received much attention in the English-speaking world, so that there are too few English sources to constitute an established usage. Very low Google counts can but need not be indicative of this. If this happens, follow the conventions of the language in which this entity is most often talked about (German for German politicians, Turkish for Turkish rivers, Portuguese for Brazilian towns etc.)].

It is necessary to follow wikipedia naming conventions and to determine what are the conventions of Serbian language for the name of the territory which is a topic of this article.  

I would politely ask members of this project to help resolving the above mentioned name issue.

Maybe the solution could be to determine what is the name of the territory in question in Serbian language sources. In that case it would be good to present such name together with sources to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Territory_of_the_Military_Commander_in_Serbia#The_conventions_of_Serbian_language_for_the_name_of_the_topic_of_this_article. this section] of the talkpage. If such name is also used in its translated form in English language sources please present such sources too.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 06:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
: Don't rush over there, the discussion has taken another track. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User talk:Peacemaker67|talk]]) 12:38, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
:: Maybe not.
::*If you are right that there is no COMMONNAME for this territory on English language sources, according to wikipedia naming conventions the conventions of the Serbian language should be followed.
::*In case you wrong and there actually is COMMONNAME on English language sources, participation of the members of this project would still be useful for that discussion.
::--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 12:48, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Sure it would, except that I will challenge your interpretation of WP:TITLE, but I'll have that discussion on the article talkpage. Cheers, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User talk:Peacemaker67|talk]]) 12:58, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

== Split proposal ==

I am informing members of related WikiProjects about split proposal.

 [[Talk:Serbia_and_Montenegro#Split_proposal|FR Yugoslavia / Serbia and Montenegro]]

You are welcomed to give your opinion. Thank you. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 14:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
== Discussion at  Talk:Axis occupation of Vojvodina#RfC:Is this article subject notable, and if so, is it an acceptable fork of existing articles? ==

[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[Talk:Axis occupation of Vojvodina#RfC:Is this article subject notable, and if so, is it an acceptable fork of existing articles?]]. {{#if:|{{{more}}}}} [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User talk:Peacemaker67|talk]]) 10:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<!--Template:Please see-->

== MatIja or MatEja Nenadović ==

Help needed to determine the best title for the article about [[Talk:Matija Nenadović|Mati(e)ja Nenadović]].--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 16:12, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
== Unassessed articles ==

{{Not resolved}}
* There are about 3,000 unassessed articles in WikiProject Serbia. 
* There is [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Assessment]] with several articles waiting for the review for more than two years.

I invite members of this project to start assessing unassessed articles. If all active members would assess several articles per day, we would soon have this issue resolved.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 11:00, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
:I kindly remind members of WikiProjectSerbia about [http://toolserver.org/~enwp10/bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&projecta=Serbia&quality=Unassessed-Class unassessed articles]. If every active editor assess several articles per day this issue will be soon resolved, i.e. number of unassessed articles reduced to more acceptable level.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 21:30, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
::There is very useful tool which can be helpful with articles' assessment. It can be found at 'My preferences'/Gadgets/Appearance/Display an assessment of an article's quality as part of the page header for each article. (documentation). --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 21:59, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
:::I am afraid I made mistake. The number of unassessed articles is higher. Besides almost 3,000 unassessed articles for their quality there are about 5,000 articles for their importance. This is huge job which requires joint effort of many editors. I again invite members of this project to start assessing unassessed articles.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 10:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I am assessing (mostly) each page i see unassessed. Didnt start any organised assessment process, but i suppose that would be priceless also... --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 12:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::I was thinking about organizing some kind of... competition. But that could lead to wrong assessments. Or to create WPS assessment barnstars for assessment of 50, 100 and more than 300 articles per month? Or to invite fellow editors from WP Cro to help with this task like described [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATomobe03&diff=516309846&oldid=516212489 here]. WP Cro is much more active then WPS and many editors there know about the scope of this project very much. Any thoughts? --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 13:29, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

== WP design ==

I think we should go with a more cleaner design, such as [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Greece]], which is much more convenient.--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 14:17, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, i agree, i had a lot of problems with the design, and i also wanted similar thing. I created new design for [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology]], and wanted something similar here, but that is a lot of time. I will do it in a 2 weeks, will not be on wiki all the time in next weeks... --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 14:36, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
== Please see ==

I am informing you about one move request related to this project.

* [[Talk:Territory_of_the_Military_Commander_in_Serbia#Proposing_a_move_in_good_faith|Requested move]]

If you are interested, it would be nice to participate, we need uninvolved editors. All best! --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 19:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

== WP Serbia tag ==

Would these articles be tagged for WPSERBIA?

* [[Talk:Church of Pentecost, Vinkovci]] ‎ 
* [[Talk:Saint Nicholas Church, Vrlika]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of St Nicholas, Vukovar]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of Assumption of Blessed Virgin, Negoslavci]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of St. George, Bobota]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of St. Stephen, Borovo]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:St. Petka's Church, Banovci]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of St. Peter and Paul, Bolman]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of St. Stefan Štiljanović, Karanac]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Zagreb Orthodox Cathedral]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of St George, Grubišno Polje]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Holy Father Nikolai Church, Karlovac]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of Nativity of the Virgin, Drežnica]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of Saint Apostles Peter and Paul, Štikada]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Church of St. George, Varaždin]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Serbian Orthodox Secondary School]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Serb National Council]]  ‎ 
* [[Talk:Joint Council of Municipalities]]  ‎
* [[Talk:Association for Serbian language and literature in the Republic of Croatia]]

Thank you! --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 18:56, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

:Yes, this I'd like to know to because these are my contributions, and it is possible that there has been a misunderstanding from my side. There are also other articles like all articles about Serbian Orthodox Churches in the world, Serbs in Croatia/Bosnia/Bulgaria.... I did this change in good faith thinking that I do useful thing for users from this project that may be interested in this articles. However, if you for any reason feel that this should not be so, then that part should be removed. I would also invite you to see recent discussions (especially if I'm wrong, because then you need to distance yourself from my position); [[User talk:MirkoS18]], [[User talk:PRODUCER#?]] and [[User talk:DIREKTOR#Re: ? and December 2012]]. I apologize for any inconvenience.--[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 22:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

::I've been [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADIREKTOR&diff=528221014&oldid=528218891 invited] to participate here but I don't know what I'm supposed to say. Users Mirko and WhiteWriter are currently engaged in a pretty huge edit war adding this project's tag to random articles they presumably feel are "Serbian enough". Its entirely up to this project to define its scope and goals, and in reverting the pair users were acting in accordance with the current stated scope of the project, and accordingly viewing the addition of the tag as nothing more than provocation by two users. It would be a different matter entirely if the participants of WikiProject Serbia altered the scope to include whole sections and institutions of BiH as being part of WikiProject Serbia (Mirko's other edits), or added areas of Croatia into its scope. I strongly urge participants not to take such a step; I don't think I have to tell anyone [[Greater Serbia|how it would be perceived]]. <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 03:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
:::O, stop with the nationalistic propaganda. Yugoslavia broke down decade ago! Tagging article means that more people will see it, and work on it. On the other side, tagging articles does not mean that Greater Serbia will be instantly created. You will never, ever explain me and convince me that [[Serbian Orthodox Secondary School]], only high school of Serbian Orthodox Church on the territory of Former Yugoslavia is not related to the Serbia, and Serbs. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 14:17, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
::::"Nationalist propaganda"? Amusing. I would not dream of stealing your job, WhiteWriter. Don't try to reverse the argument, its painfully transparent: nobody is adding areas to WikiProject Bosnia or WikiProject Croatia - you're adding places ''outside'' Serbia to WikiProject Serbia. Whereas the project's disclaimer clearly states its scope concerns [[Serbia]] and its people. Its an incredibly obvious and straightforward issue, and unless the scope of the project is changed - those tags will be removed, and your behavior reported accordingly. Of course, if it ''is'' changed, it'll be a whole other problem. <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 23:26, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
* '''Comment''': Yes, listed articles should be tagged with WPSERBIA because they are related to the scope of this wikiproject. --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 17:57, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
::Now the team is complete, what kept you, Antid? :)
::WhiteWriter, you started this discussion - and its the proper thing to do. If the project's stated scope is changed to include those articles, you should restore the tag. However, if you wish to keep this out of sysop noticeboards, you should refrain from the ''MASSIVE'' edit war until such a time. That's my advice, anyway. If you feel this belongs on such a noticeboard, by all means - continue. You might as well post a thread yourself then. <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 23:27, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
:::You, master of edit warring, are not worthy of a comment. If doesn't matter the location. [[Hilandar]] is over 600 kn away from Serbia, but it must be tagged for wp. It is still related and important for Serbia. But i will not explain any more. You have stated your opinion, edit warred, and that's it. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 11:09, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
::::Pa ne bih ja baš rekao da niko ne dodaje članke izvan Hrvatske i Bosne na te projekte ali ne vidim zašto bi tako nešto bilo problematično:(WP Croatia:[[Talk:Croats in Argentina]], [[Talk:Croatian American]], [[Talk:Croatian Fraternal Union]], [[Talk:Democratic Union of Croats]], [[Talk:Democratic Alliance of Croats in Vojvodina]], [[Talk:Bunjevci]], [[Talk:Bay of Kotor]], [[Talk:Flag of the Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia]], [[Talk:Flag of Croats of Serbia]]...). Također ne znam kako bi pod optužbom da je nekakvo velikosrpstvo svaki spomen WP Serbia na stranicama za razgovor koje nisu dio članka i koje koriste zainteresirani urednici uklopile stranice kao što su [[Talk:Trinity Chapel Complex]], [[Talk:Serbian Unity Congress]], [[Talk:Annunciation Church, Szentendre]], [[Talk:St. Sava Church, Paris]]...). Ali ponavljam, ja ne vidim u ovome ništa sporno jer se iz wikipedijine prakse vidi da je to nešto posve uobičajeno i da su ove optužbe neutemeljene. Ukoliko ste zaniteresirani za primjere izvan regije evo ih nekoliko sa WP Japan ([[Talk:Japanese American]], [[Talk:Japanese American National Library]], [[Talk:Japanese American National Museum]], [[Talk:Little Tokyo, Los Angeles]]... a gle čuda i oni su nekad imali rat).--[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 17:01, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Također bih želio istaći da se slučaj Srpske pravoslavne crkve ne može izjednačavati sa slučajem rimokatoličke crkve jer se u slučaju prve radi o [[:Category:National churches]], i tu bih ja naravno vilo dati još par primjera jer mislim da oni najviše govore i smatram da će pokazati da je moja pretpostavka bila ispravna:
*'''Armenian Apostolic Church'''
**<small>[[Talk:Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Holy See of Cilicia]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Ghazanchetsots Cathedral]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Armenian Cathedral of Lviv]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Cathedral of Saint George, Tbilisi]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Armenian Church of the Holy Nazareth]]</small>
*'''Russian Orthodox Church'''
**<small>[[Talk:St. Andrew's Cathedral, Philadelphia]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Ascension Cathedral, Almaty]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Church of Michael Archangel, Baku]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Russian Orthodox Cathedral, Nice]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Russian Orthodox Church, Dresden]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Alexander Nevsky Church, Copenhagen]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Alexander Nevsky Cathedral, Tallinn]]</small>
*'''Other'''
**<small>[[Talk:Ethiopian Orthodox Coptic Church of North and South America]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Scots International Church]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Norwegian Church Abroad]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:St George's Church, Belfast]]</small>
**<small>[[Talk:Unitarian Church of Transylvania]]</small>
**--[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 18:12, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Mirko, you kinda have to use English, even here. Its to allow non-SC speakers to participate. <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 20:40, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
::::{{tl|WikiProject Serbia talk page}} --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 20:55, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Yes I know, my point is: where's the translation? Or for that matter why do we need it? Just use English... <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 21:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, you are kinda right that it maybe will be more polite that I use English but it was easier for me to write in SC. Still, I'd rather hear from you comments about my examples and quite consensus among members that this is part of the project scope. I do not want to be arrogant nor to hurt your pride, but I think you need to stop this "pretty huge edit war" which you started. As you can see from my expls my interpretation of WP on talk pages have pretty broad agreement on wikipedia and is in full compliance with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide#WikiProjects do not own articles]]. For this reason, I invite you to stop threatening all of us with sanctions because we do not agree with you and that you do not disturb other editors in editing as they do not disturb you. BR--[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 23:35, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Also, same logical nonpolitical/non-nationalistic conclusion was concluded on two different places. [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council#Tagging|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council (If the group of people at WP Serbia actually want to support an article, then they may tag it. That group of people is free to support and tag any article at all, even if it has nothing to do with Serbia.)]] and the second one at [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Tagging|Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)  (I think that should be all right, as they relate to Serbia.) / (WP:PROJGUIDE#OWN. It's up to the members of the project.)]] --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 00:20, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::It seems you've unfortunately omitted to mention a few details in your threads. <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 00:57, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::I rarely agree with WhiteWriter, but this is one of those occasions [[File:718smiley.png|frameless|20px]] If people in a wikiproject decide that an article is relevant to their project, they can tag it. That's fine. It doesn't mean that the project "owns" an article. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 02:05, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Ugh.. its baiting Bob, that's all it is. And I wonder whether the positions of the above trio reflect those of the remainder of the project. <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 06:53, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::Although not a member of WikiProject Serbia, I too agree with WhiteWriter's position. It is up to the project itself to define its scope, and if it is "Serbia and the Serbs and all Serbian-related things", then any article could be tagged, as long as there is a strong connection to the scope. That's how WikiProject Greece and other national WikiProjects have done it since their establishment. Of course, there are cases when adding the tag is clearly meant to stake out national territory, e.g. tagging a village that came under Serbian control for a few years or even decades at one point but has no further notability with regards to the Serbian nation, or the rather bizarre case of [[Albert Einstein]] being tagged for WikiProject Albania because he held an Albanian passport at one point. These should be reverted, but I don't think that tagging something with "Serb" in its very name that happens to be in a different country than Serbia is such a case. [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]]  [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 06:57, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
*'''Comment'''. As a member of WP Croatia, I've been invited by MirkoS18 to comment on this issue. This is what I'd like to say:
**Every project is free to define its own scope, based on its members' consensus.
**While the scope is seemingly easy to define (for WP Croatia it's "Croatia and the Croats"), there are many gray areas. Some of the not-so-straightforward cases have been mentioned in this discussion.
**Scope-related decisions should be influenced by "common sense" (or even "good taste", if you will), not just purely encyclopedic considerations. (For example, it would obviously be a bad idea to put a WP Croatia banner on articles such as [[Zemun]].) However, matters of common sense are not easy to define either.
**Editors should definitely refrain from removing WP banners of projects of which they are not members. (except when correcting blatant errors). Again, the ultimate authority rests with the project.
**I can't comment on what is or should be the scope of this project, I can only urge the participants of this discussion to be as constructive as possible: time wasted here is gone, and can't be used for improving Wikipedia. [[User:GregorB|GregorB]] ([[User talk:GregorB|talk]]) 09:36, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't know. I just know that you'd be hard pressed to find a more controversial tagging than Mirko's addition of [[Republika Srpska]] and the Krajina to WP Serbia. I mean, that's the whole war right there. Obviously, [[Vojvodina]] in such a case might certainly warrant inclusion into WP Croatia. Or [[Sandžak]] into WP Bosnia and Herzegovina, ''etc. etc.'' I think its a bad idea to go there, and I think we should just keep to the specific scopes. OR, we could [[Creation of Yugoslavia|merge the Wikiprojects]]? Perhaps the Croats should dispatch a delegation to discuss terms... :) <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 12:04, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
::::I can see what are you trying to do. Direktor, no, tagging WPSERBIA on those articles '''will not''' create Yugoslavia again, dont worry. Except you, nobody thinks that this is political issue. Rest of us dont care about it. It looks like you should do some reverting. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 15:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Once again, WhiteWriter - you miss my meaning ''entirely.'' <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 15:38, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Will you revert your self after 10 editors said the same thing, or not? --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 16:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I feel I'm under no obligation to do so. And don't exaggerate, please. <span style="font-family:Eras Bold ITC;">-- [[User:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#353535">Director</span>]] <span style="color:#464646">([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<span style="color:#464646">talk</span>]])</span></span> 17:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I think the neutral solution would be to start WikiProject Serbs and then tag with that, so there's no ambiguity. I remember mentioning something similar to Mirko earlier - there could also be a Serbs task force of WP Croatia that would also be a solution for that part. WikiProject Serb Orthodox Church also comes to mind as a possibility. In this context this doesn't seem far-fetched since there's a separate project for Belgrade already. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 11:00, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
:Yes. But in the mean time, before creation of those separate task forces and projects, WPSERBIA is only one that is appropriate. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 11:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
::Serbs are already within the scope of this project. Joy's attempt to divide this WikiProject to Serbia and Serbs is disruptive.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 12:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I do not think that he had a bad intention. Task force or Project can be a useful thing. I'm thinking about WP or task force Republika Srpska and/or Serbs in Western Balkans. I'm interested in second one because I write about Serbs in Croatia for now. I think that even if we want to do that task force at WP Serbia/Jugoslavia/Ethnic groups would be fully sufficient. However, this is just an idea, I do not think for now we need to spend too much energy on it. I do not say this as an excuse to maintain the status quo, I'm just in fear that new task force and/or WP would be very inactive and non-productive and will probably die after some time.--[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 03:04, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
::: Not all of them - the project intro says "Serbia and Serbians", which is reasonably interpreted as particular Serbs of Serbia or at least Serbs with a clear link to Serbia. Heck, the Croatian project intro uses the more generic ethnonym, yet nobody wants to tag everything related to all Croats everywhere. (Perhaps you should consider how your endless axe-grinding is what's disruptive.) --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 12:17, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
::::You proposed ''"to start WikiProject Serbs"''.  Your proposal to divide this inactive wikiproject to two even more inactive wikiprojects was neither neutral nor constructive. Not for the first time in case of articles and topics related to Serbia. Please respect an [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump_%28miscellaneous%29&diff=528586570&oldid=528570885 independent input at village pump] and [[Wikipedia:Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass|drop the stick]]. --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 14:07, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Problem is now {{ok}} solved, pet wp intro fix. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 14:39, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
{{Unindent}} *facepalm* This just screams "we're entirely oblivious to [[WP:ARBMAC]]". --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 16:33, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
:My dear friend, i dont know what are you talking about, therefore, i am leaving this conversation, as it is obviously over. Everyone agreed that we can create our scope, and our tags as we like it, and i dont care about anyone's phobias, and etc... Your (plural) attempts to discredit and remove WPSERBIA tag despite wiki rules and common wiki practice speaks for it self. Shameful. At the end, almost entire WPSERBIA page was written, arranged and decorated by me, with community approvals, so i can fix something if creates problem for normal wiki editing. If anyone who is active part of this wikiproject disagree, please, should speak. I never came to WPCROATIA talk to tell you what to tag, and what not. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 17:53, 23 December 2012 (UTC){{User:Tbsdy lives/EndOfCorr|left=86}}
:: "My dear friend" and then "attempts to discredit" and "shameful". *facepalm* --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 06:32, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
== Article nedded ==

O, we must create one article!

 [[Tennis Federation of Serbia]]

Does anyone knows something about it? I am completely ignorant, i only know that president it [[Vuk Jeremić]]... --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 11:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

== Requested move ==

If you wish, uninvolved editors are welcomed to help in this requested move.

 [[Talk:Commissioner Government#Requested_move|Talk:Commissioner Government]]

Thank you for your time, all best! --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 11:52, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
== RFC at [[Talk:History of Vojvodina]] ==

Your attention is drawn to [[Talk:History_of_Vojvodina#Request_For_Comment_re:_WikiProject_Banners_on_this_page]]. Regards, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67#top|send... over]]) 02:08, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

== Map ==

Can someone make map for wiki [http://www.novosti.rs/upload/images/2012//02/06n/02_-Oplenac_Sema-kripti.jpg out of this]? It would be great to have this on wiki, and this one is the only map of the crypt in existence, and its faulty. New burials are not on good locations. Anyone? --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 18:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
== Heroic ballads of Servia ==

[http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/hbs/ Heroic ballads of Servia] contains English translations of many Serbian epic poems. Translators are [[George R. Noyes]] and [[Leonard Bacon]], both died more than hundred years ago. Therefore  there is no copyright issue. If anybody is interested in the topic and have enoough time and energy it would be very useful to have them transferred to wikisource and linked to appropriate articles on wikipedia.Like [http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Building_of_Skadar The Building of Skadar].--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 15:24, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
== Move ==

[[Miodrag Kostic]] → Miodrag Kostić. The project alerts bot hasn't picked this up. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 02:39, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
== Article for deletion ==

{{Resolved}}
Hi all,<br>
[[Anti-Serb sentiment]] has been [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Serb sentiment|taken to AfD]]. Comments from uninvolved editors would be welcome. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 15:58, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

== Đorđe Branković ==

{{Resolved}}
I think someone from here should take a look at [[Đorđe Branković]]. Not sure the user who wrote this speaks English as a first language [[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 02:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
:@[[User:VVVladimir]]: Can you please check if you can resolve this issue because I think that your English is better than of any other active member of this project?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 07:42, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
::That article is supposed to be about Despot Đorđe Branković, but an IP user [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C4%90or%C4%91e_Brankovi%C4%87&diff=542375229&oldid=537680072 deleted the text] and changed the article's subject to Count Đorđe Branković. I reverted it to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C4%90or%C4%91e_Brankovi%C4%87&oldid=537680072 last revision before the IP's input], i.e., to the intended subject of the article, which is also linked as such in other articles. An article about the Count Branković should be created, but the IP's unsourced text, with claims unsupported by sources I consulted, is not quite the best option for it. Some parts of it, though, could be useful. As the IP already created [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Djordje brankovic (count)]], I moved his text back to that page. Also, some kind of warning could be given to the IP regarding such removals and changes of contents. I'll see later about the article on the Count (if someone doesn't beats me to it). [[User:VVVladimir|<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">Vladimir</span>]] ([[User talk:VVVladimir|talk]]) 19:18, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
:::Thanks VVVladimir. An IP user is new user who probably thought the article contained wrong information. I AGF in this case and instead of warning I wrote a message explaining that such major changes should have been discussed first. I hope it will be enough. Count Djordje Brankovic was very important notable figure for articles within scope of this project so his article should be checked. --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 20:16, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
::::I did a little work on it, could do more. [[Grof Đorđe Branković]]. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 18:14, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::All of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.57.110.189 IP edits should be reviewed] - The IPs edits have been reverted all over - No sources  given in most cases plus not responses to any concerns raised on there talk page. Plus copy and pasting looks to alsp be a concern.[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 18:32, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::Thanks Moxy for bringing your concerns here. I checked several articles and found that you are right that IP does not add references and wiki-links. Still, I haven't found anything particularly incorrect or disruptive in IP's edits yet (except maybe somewhat at [[Aćif Hadžiahmetović]]). Can you point to edits that you are concerned about?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 19:50, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
== Serbian elections ==

{{Resolved}}
I have recently created a few new articles on historical elections in Serbia, but require some help with one - does anyone know which month the [[Serbian parliamentary election, 1888 (first)|first election in 1888]] was held in. It is either February or March, but I cannot find a source to confirm which. Thanks, [[User:Number 57|<span style="color:orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color:green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color:blue;">7</span>]] 18:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
:* February - 
:**{{cite book|author=Dragoljub R. Živojinović|title=Petar I Karađorđević, život i delo: u izgnanstvu 1844-1903. godine|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=uegJAQAAIAAJ|accessdate=9 March 2013|year=1988|publisher=Beogradskĭ izdavačko-grafički zavod|page=317|quote= На фебруарским избори- ма 1888. године радикали су однели велику победу,[On <u>February</u> elections in 1888 Radical party won a great victory..]}}
:**{{cite book|author1=Čedomil Mitrinović|author2=Miloš N. Brašić|title=Југословенске народне скупштине и сабори|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=dkA9AAAAMAAJ|accessdate=9 March 2013|year=1937|publisher=Izd. Narodne skupštine|page=105|quote=11 јануара 1888 Народна скупштина била је распуштена с тим да се нови избори изврше <u>21 фебруара 1888</u>}}--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 18:19, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
:* Sorry, this source says it is March 5th - {{cite book|author=Duško M. Kovačević|title=Srbija i Rusija 1878-1889: od Berlinskog kongresa do abdikacije kralja Milana|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=8BcUAQAAMAAJ|accessdate=9 March 2013|year=2003|publisher=Istorijski Institut|isbn=978-86-7743-036-8}}
: It is probably because of the difference between "old" and "new" calendar.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 18:25, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, it is obviously the difference between Gregorian (4 March) and Julian (21 February) calendar:
::* {{cite book|title=Zbornik Matice srpske za književnost i jezik|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=pxM_AQAAIAAJ|accessdate=9 March 2013|year=1968|publisher=Matica srpska|page=337|quote=од <u>21. фебруара (4. марта) 1888</u>, пишући међутим о изборима и новој влади већ и у тгоетходном броју}}
::--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 20:00, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
:::OK, another question from the second major contributor to that election project: Do find dates for the time between 1870 and 1884. Having read a translation of the 1869 constitution, but I did not find a term for the parliament, just the information that the National Assemby shall convene every year. Can you find out something about that time, on serbian websites. Number 57, does the Times have some information?--[[User:Antemister|Antemister]] ([[User talk:Antemister|talk]]) 21:44, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
::::[http://www.parlament.gov.rs/narodna-skupstina-/istorijat/istorijat-1804---1918.1918.937.html Website of the Serbian parliament] has many useful information about the topic.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 22:05, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for the very quick assistance! [[User:Number 57|<span style="color:orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color:green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color:blue;">7</span>]] 22:45, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

== Vranje District? ==

I've posted over at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Stub_sorting#Non-existent_Serbian_district]] about the status of "Vranje District" which is being used for a stub category - could someone who knows about Serbian administrative units take a look? TIA [[User:Le Deluge|Le Deluge]] ([[User talk:Le Deluge|talk]]) 02:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
== MOS for Serbian mention Bosnian Cyrillic? ==

Not talking about Bosančica, talking about modern BCS in Bosnia occasionally being written in Cyrillic. These days 99% of the time it isn't, but it can be. Hence [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANaming_conventions_%28Cyrillic%29&diff=541745699&oldid=541413907 removal of mention of Bosnian cyrillic from SERBIAN MOS]. Perhaps someone else would like to pick this up. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 18:06, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
:The problem may be that technically there is no Bosnian Cyrillic but, when written in Cyrillic, Bosnian Language uses the standard Serbian Cyrillic. I haven´t got much time to be around lately, but I may check latter about it, if someone else in the meantine doesn´t look it. Best regards IIO [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 20:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks FkpCascais. The actual problem is the lack of [[WP:Naming conventions (Bosnia and Herzegovina)]]. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 03:15, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
:::I think that in the article [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)]] the case of Bosnian is exactly the same as with Serbian, so a separate section for Bosnian with basically copy/paste info from the Serbian section will solve it. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 09:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

== Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Serbia-related articles ==

I've created [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Serbia-related articles]], adding [[Romanization of Serbian]].--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 12:03, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
== File:StjepanMitrovLjubiša.jpg ==

[[:File:StjepanMitrovLjubiša.jpg]] has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/65.94.76.126|65.94.76.126]] ([[User talk:65.94.76.126|talk]]) 06:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Vital articles/To do list ==

I think we should assemble a [[Wikipedia:Vital articles|Vital articles]] page for the WikiProject Serbia to essentially replace [[:Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/To Do List]].--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 21:17, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, that would be priceless! I would also include [[User:WhiteWriter/sandbox|all of those]], after i finish it. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 21:22, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
::Very good!--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 15:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
== Assessment backlog ==

Thanks to [[User:Milicevic01]] there are no unassessed articles within this project. That is very important step for this wikiproject. I think that it is now important to organize further joint activities aimed to develop articles within the scope of this project. Any proposals? --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 21:54, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
=== Further activities ===
* Making the Main page of WPS more compact {{partly done}}
* reviving the Announcements section
* Reviving the Collaboration of the Week
Any thoughts?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 09:14, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:If you ask me, yes, yes, and yes. I will do that as i told you very soon, sorry... --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter|WhiteWriter]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 20:14, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
* Tagging untagged articles: There are a lot of articles which probably belong to this wikiproject but remained untagged. [http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?depth=3&categories=Serbia+stubs&templates_no=WikiProject+Serbia&templates_use_talk_no=1&doit=1 This tool] can help identifying such articles. Help with tagging those articles would be appreciated.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 12:49, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

== Kosovo place names ==

This probably should be notified here too. On [[Talk:Vučitrn]] I raised and 2 supported the idea of a RfC on the subject. [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Kosovo-related articles]] aka WP:MOSKOS. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 08:16, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)]] ==

I was wondering whether [[WP:SERBIANNAMES]] should indicate whether to use format "([[Serbian Cyrillic]]...)" rather than just "Serbian" or just "Cyrillic" in lead. And whether including an actual model bio example would be helpful. What is the most exemplary bio article? insert an example like '''Ivan "Ivo" Andrić''' (Serbian Cyrillic: Иван Иво Андрић, pronounced [ǐʋan ǐːʋɔ ǎːndritɕ]) (9 October 1892 – 13 March 1975).  [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 03:01, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

== Does this WikiProject have a watchlist? ==

If so where is it? Thanks in advance, X[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 19:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Ottawahitech]] It is linked on the homepage [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Article alerts]]. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 10:39, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
== Help needed with mystery murders ==

Can someone suggest a Cyrillic-Serbian spelling of Renici or Renczi? Or better, can someone look for sources circa 1925 about this alleged mass murder committed by a woman supposedly called [[Vera Renczi]] (or thereabouts) at [[Zrenjanin]] whom Romanians call Becicherecul and which was anglicized as Berkerkul? It seems to be fiction, although widely reported fiction, but who knows... Alas there are no dates about her supposed deeds, other than the earliest when the story was reported, May 19, 1925. If someone looks in a week worth of a main Serbian newspaper at the time, they should be able to find a story (if it's not a bogus event), because this was reported worldwide. [[Special:Contributions/86.121.18.17|86.121.18.17]] ([[User talk:86.121.18.17|talk]]) 01:28, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== Need help regarding Balkan nationality ==

Is there a manual of style in regards to nationality of people from the former [[Yugoslavia]]? It's concerning the basketball player [[Predrag Savović]] and his brother [[Boban Savović]]. See the [[Talk:Predrag_Savović#Nationality|discussion]]. [[User:Arbor to SJ|Arbor to SJ]] ([[User talk:Arbor to SJ|talk]]) 01:21, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
== File:Sv Nikola.jpg ==

[[:File:Sv Nikola.jpg]] has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/65.94.79.6|65.94.79.6]] ([[User talk:65.94.79.6|talk]]) 23:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
== RfC ==

[[Talk:Serbia at the 2012 Summer Olympics]]. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 09:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
== Collaboration of the week/month/quarter? ==

{{Bulb}}{{Discussing}}<noinclude>
</noinclude>

It would be maybe useful to join efforts of the members of this project to be focused to improve the quality of very important articles within the scope of this project. Maybe establishing some kind of Collaboration of the week/month/quarter would be useful? If members of this project support this idea I think it would be good to define:
# Time span 
# List of the tasks
# Interested participants
# procedure for nominating and election of the editor who would receive some kind of barnstar for their contribution 

I propose:
# for the beginning of this kind of collaboration, and also taking in consideration summer vacations period, time span to be III quarter of 2013?
# Tasks I think could be the subject of the "WikiProject Serbia Collaboration of the III quarter 2013" are:
## expansion and perhaps redesigning  of the templates listed in the above post and
## writing articles about redlinked monasteries within [[Template:Serbian Orthodox monasteries]] because they are of significant importance for this project
# Editors who are interested to participate in this collaboration can sign below (using three tildes <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>):
## --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]])
## --[[User:Правичност|Правичност]] ([[User talk:Правичност|talk]]))
## ----[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]]
##....
# Every interested member of this project can !vote. Somebody uninvolved can make final decision about the barnstar, taking in consideration the votes.
Any thoughts or additional proposals?
--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 11:06, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

== Call for research participants ==

Dear Wikipedians, we are a Croatian team of researchers who are looking at the editing dynamics on different language Wikipedias and are focusing specifically on the topic of Kosovo. We are looking for editors who have participated in editing, or discussing, articles about this topic, and who would be willing to be interviewed for the purpose of this research project. This is a project approved by the Wikimedia Foundations´ Research Committee and you can find more information on [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Exploring_editing_dynamics_in_different_language_Wikipedias_%E2%80%93_Towards_a_substantive_grounded_theory this meta-wiki page]. Research results will be published under an open access license and your participation would be much appreciated. If you would like to participate you can reach us at our [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pbilic talk page] or directly at interwikiresearch@gmail.com and we will set up an interview in a way that best suits your needs.<br />
:[[User:Pbilic|Pbilic]] ([[User talk:Pbilic|talk]]) 16:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
== "{{noredirect|Ћ}}" ==

The usage of {{la|Ћ}} is under discussion, see [[talk:Ћ]]  -- [[Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222|76.65.128.222]] ([[User talk:76.65.128.222|talk]]) 10:25, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

== The Project and task forces ==

{{Unresolved}}

There are some inactive and small Serbia-related WikiProjects that ought to be converted into WikiProject Serbia. These include [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Belgrade|WikiProject Belgrade]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Belgrade|WikiProject University of Belgrade]]. The WikiProject should be more organized.--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 04:40, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

*[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia]]
**[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/History task force]] (still under construction) {{sym|hold}}
**[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Belgrade task force]] (to be converted from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Belgrade]]) {{sym|not done}}
***[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Belgrade task force/University of Belgrade task list]] (to be converted from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Belgrade]]) {{sym|not done}}
**[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Cultural Heritage task force]] (to be converted from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Cultural Heritage of Serbia]]) {{sym|not done}}

What do you think?--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 06:01, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
:I agree and propose to merge those taskforces directly into WP Serbia which within a reasonable period of time (up to one year) remain inactive.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 09:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
*'''Agree''' - although I am only an occasional editor on Serbia topics. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 13:52, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
== Chetniks trampling the Nazi German flag.jpeg ==

[[:image:Chetniks trampling the Nazi German flag.jpeg]] has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222|76.65.128.222]] ([[User talk:76.65.128.222|talk]]) 03:24, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

== Tito-NikolaLjubicic.jpg ==

[[:image:Tito-NikolaLjubicic.jpg]] has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222|76.65.128.222]] ([[User talk:76.65.128.222|talk]]) 03:56, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
== "{{noredirect|Imlek}}" ==

The usage of {{la|Imlek}} is under discussion, see [[Talk:Imlek (company)]] -- [[Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222|76.65.128.222]] ([[User talk:76.65.128.222|talk]]) 04:58, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
== Kosovo and Vojvodina province articles merge ==

Please see [[Kosovo in SFR Yugoslavia]] and help decide on the most appropriate name for the topic, or indeed any other course of action. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 19:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Ditto for [[SAP Vojvodina]]. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 20:20, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

== BiP (brewery) ==

I created [[BiP (brewery)]] (while drinking a BG Svetlo Pivo!). Sources are scarce, so please can someone add something from Serbian-language media? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 21:31, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

== Monitor Drava-(model-of-the-warship).jpg ==

[[:image:Monitor Drava-(model-of-the-warship).jpg]] has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/76.65.128.222|76.65.128.222]] ([[User talk:76.65.128.222|talk]]) 03:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

== Removal of Serbian name across 100 articles ==

Sigh. An editor has removed ć from a famous Serbian citizen across 100 articles. I'm sure you don't need me to tell you the name of the famous Serbian citizen selected for this treatment. Although the removal is evidently WP:POINTY I am not going to be the one to revert these edits. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 06:09, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
::Make that 150 articles, including [[Serbian culture]]. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 17:37, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
@[[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]]: Which "famous citizen" are you referring to? [[User:23 editor|23 editor]] ([[User talk:23 editor|talk]]) 15:10, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Hi 23 editor. I think most editors here know, but you can see from the diff on [[Serbian culture]]: [[Ana Ivanovic]] - the only bio on en.wp which has had the ć deliberately removed, contrary to [[WP:TENNISNAMES]] and [[WP:TENNISNAMES2]] RfC. Contrary also to 100,000s of Turkish, Czech, French, Spanish bios remain titled in full script, this one Serbian citizen has been selected for an "English name." [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 03:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
::::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grobari&diff=prev&oldid=570162721 Grobari edit] [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 06:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
*[[User:Joy]], the reason for the above post is to let the Project know Project articles are affected. If you have a problem with me notifying the Project you could have said so here. As I have said before, here, the long term approach is fixing up MOS pages, such as [[WP:SERBIANNAMES]] and having them formally adopted as guidelines by RfC, as [[WP:FRMOS]] for example. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 03:32, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

::Well, the issue has fallen off ANI unresolved. That still leaves the question, why is [[WP:MONGOLIANNAMES]] a guideline, but [[WP:SERBIANNAMES]] isn't? [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 03:27, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

== LiturgicalBookCase.jpg ==

{{lf|LiturgicalBookCase.jpg}} has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.244.158|70.24.244.158]] ([[User talk:70.24.244.158|talk]]) 08:30, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
== Template talk:Federal subjects of Yugoslavia ==

Members of this project are kindly invited to join in on the discussion at [[Template talk:Federal subjects of Yugoslavia]]. Thank you. [[User:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>Timbouctou</em></span>'']] ([[User talk:Timbouctou|''<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'><em>talk</em></span>'']]) 02:20, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

== Eurocrem packages.jpg ==

[[:image:Eurocrem packages.jpg]] has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.244.158|70.24.244.158]] ([[User talk:70.24.244.158|talk]]) 05:58, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

== [[Geology of Serbia]] ==

Anybody feel like improving [[Geology of Serbia]] with me? --[[User:Tobias1984|Tobias1984]] ([[User talk:Tobias1984|talk]]) 06:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

== Article names for royalty and nobility: Primary topic ==

I've seen a lot of article names that should be fixed. Let's begin discussing names of monarchs and lords.--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 18:51, 2 October 2013 (UTC) By primary topic:

*Stephen Uroš IV Dušan of Serbia - [[Stefan Dušan]]
*Stephen Dragutin of Serbia - [[Stefan Dragutin]]
*Stephen Uroš II Milutin of Serbia - [[Stefan Milutin]]
*Stefan Radoslav of Serbia - [[Stefan Radoslav]]
*Stephen Vladislav I of Serbia - [[Stefan Vladislav]]
*Vukan Nemanjić of Serbia - [[Vukan Nemanjić]]


:: It is necessary(?) to follow [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility)]]. There is related discussion at [[Talk:Princess Milica of Serbia]].--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 18:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
::: No, it is not necessary (read the intro) - though #2 supports the above anyways.--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 21:02, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
::::You are right. I deliberately used question mark to indicate this convention is only a recommendation. There are advantages and disadvantages of both solutions. Why do you think that version without Serbia is more appropriate?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 10:18, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::Reliable sources don't usually append the "of Serbia" suffix. It's not a name (unlike, say, [[Cécile de France]]) and it's not a meaningful title. It might be useful as a disambiguator in the unlikely event that there is a notable non-Serbian person with the same name. In cases where there is a ''Serbian'' person with the same name (ie. a member of the same house, perhaps a different regnal number) then "of Serbia" would be a terrible disambiguator. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 10:46, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

== 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian) ==

This article's currently undergoing FA review and it would be greatly appreciated if some users could offer their in-put on [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian)/archive1]]. Thanks, [[User:23 editor|23 editor]] ([[User talk:23 editor|talk]]) 23:07, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

== AfD - Emanuilo Janković ==

Hi all, I've nominated the article [[Emanuilo Janković]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Emanuilo_Jankovi%C4%87 for deletion] because it's very confusing and appears to contain some bizarre copypasta.  Since this may be of interest to the Serbian WikiProject, I thought I'd invite project members to weigh in, and more importantly, to help beef up the article.  I'm not familiar with the subject, but he does seem to be a notable Serbian figure.  Regards, [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 01:29, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

== Death of the collaboration of the week/month/quarter? ==

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Serbia/Archive_7#Collaboration_of_the_week.2Fmonth.2Fquarter.3F At this discussion] it was agreed to start some collaborative efforts on quarterly basis. This idea was supported by small number of editors but was not realized. I did create several articles on monasteries and brought them to DYK level but the point was on collaboration to improve certain topic, not on individual actions. Can I conclude that this idea is officially dead? Maybe lack of response from other editors was result of the Summer season vacations and field works? Any thoughts?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 10:14, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
:( I will do my share of monasteries soon ) Let's bump this collaboration, there are several active users.--[[User_talk:Zoupan|Z<small>oupan</small>]] 19:39, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
::Does bump mean to raise or to dismiss?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 20:50, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

== [[Jovan Deretić]] ==

Although I earlier nominated this for deletion for BLP issues, I have tried to rescue this article using the best sources I can find.  At this point, however, I am still doubtful about the notability of this person.  After extensive searching, I have found only 3 English-language reliable sources on which to base the article.  Two of these sources make it clear that there is coverage of this person in Serbian newspapers, TV, and possibly other Serbian RS.  Furthermore, there are many Serbian-language Youtube recordings of his pseudo-historical lectures.  I don't know any Serbian, so I cannot use any of these possible sources to improve the article.  I am therefore bringing it to this project in hopes that you kind folks may help.  Thanks.  --[[User:Eggishorn|Eggishorn]] [[User talk:Eggishorn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Eggishorn|(contrib)]] 19:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

== Wizz Air Serbia article to be deleted ==

There is an article on [[Wizz Air Serbia]], although such an airline was never established (or is no longer around). I am going to delete the article tomorrow and thought I should post it here. [[User:Thakaran]] 18:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:Its better to make an RfD and see the outcome. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 18:29, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:: I have absolutely no idea what RfD stands for but even if I did I probably wouldn't know how to start one, so I would really appreciate it if you could help me with that by starting it or telling me how to. Thanks! [[User:Thakaran]] 18:51, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::No problem, here it is all explained [[Wikipedia:Deletion process]].  However, after you posted the issue here, I took a look at the issue and I really couldn´t find any evdence about a separate [[Wizz Air Serbia]] airline.  So, unless I´m missing something or if someone else knows something about it, I would recomend simply to redirect the article to [[Wizz Air]]. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 15:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

== Link ==

Can someone fix this link here, its not working [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Serbia/Members] [[User:Anastan|Anastan]] ([[User talk:Anastan|talk]]) 22:27, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
:What is wrong with it?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 21:01, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
::Well, when you click on the link: "Add name" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Serbia/Participants&action=edit this is opened]. Something should be fixed, to link to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Members]]. --'''<span style="font-family:Perpetua; font-size:medium;">[[User:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ąnαșταη</span>]] ([[User talk:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">ταlκ</span>]])</span>''' 14:02, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

== Showcase ==

Will somebody please tell me if I should put мy DYK in Showcase or it will be done automaticly? --[[User:Svetisrdj|Svetisrdj]] ([[User talk:Svetisrdj|talk]]) 12:06, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:As far as I know DYK articles are manually added to any showcase.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 13:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Done! Thanks. --[[User:Svetisrdj|Svetisrdj]] ([[User talk:Svetisrdj|talk]]) 14:56, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
I have one question about DYK. I made an article [[Old house (Pirot)]] and I want to nominate it, but it's written 1 month ago and I wasn't know when I write an article which I want to nominate must not be older than 5 days so my question is may I nominate it or not because I expanded it about few days ago? --[[User:LordMilan85|LordMilan85]] ([[User talk:LordMilan85|talk]]) 15:08, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
:Read rule D9 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Supplementary_guidelines#Other_supplementary_rules_for_the_article link]). It says ''"Five days old" limit should be strictly enforced only if there is a large backlog of hooks. Otherwise nominated article may still be approved if it were created or expanded after the oldest date listed in [[Template talk:Did you know#Older nominations]].'' Since the oldest date listed in [[Template talk:Did you know#Older nominations]] is well before October 12 you can still nominate the article.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 17:37, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

==English exonyms for place names==
[[English_exonyms#Serbia]]. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 04:18, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

== Oplenac (Serbian Cultural Association) ==

I just reviewed [[Oplenac (Serbian Cultural Association)]]. Perhaps someone would like to add an article on this music and dance group to the Serbian Wikipedia. <span style="font-family:Times;">'''[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] ([[User talk:Eastmain|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eastmain|contribs]])'''</span>  06:54, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

== [[Yugoslavia in World War II]] needs editing==  

[[Yugoslavia in World War II|This article]], rated high-importance by wikiproject Yugoslavia, is extremely stubby. All help appreciated. Cheers, <small>[[Special:Contributions/Victor_falk|<sup style="color:green;">''walk''</sup>]]</small> [[user:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">victor falk</i>]]<sup><small> [[user_talk:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">talk</i>]]</small></sup> 14:25, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

== Problems with Cyrillic in Bosnia-related articles ==

After seing some Boosniak editors removing ad changing Cyrillic in Bosnian Serb related articles, I opened a thread [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#Problems_with_Cyrillic here] so editors can particpate and a consensus can be reached. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 07:02, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

== Pogača ==

Can someone explain it to me is this valid move? ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poga%C4%8Da&diff=589636289&oldid=587279770 Pogacha]) Why sometimes we must use discussions and templates, and sometimes not to move articles? Is there some explanation for it? --'''<span style="font-family:Perpetua; font-size:medium;">[[User:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ąnαșταη</span>]] ([[User talk:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">ταlκ</span>]])</span>''' 21:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
And one more thing! Can someone update task section on the main page of project, some articles from Article requests are created, and should be moved from there. But i cannot find where are those links on the page... --'''<span style="font-family:Perpetua; font-size:medium;">[[User:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ąnαșταη</span>]] ([[User talk:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">ταlκ</span>]])</span>''' 21:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
:That was a cut & paste move. Cut & paste moves are bad. It was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogacha&action=history undone] by Joy.
:If a move is controversial, it should be discussed at [[WP:RM]]. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 20:22, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

== User: Nikswerdhond ==

This user is making some problematic changers that don't appear to be valid but politically colored.
Does anyone know him? 
What should be done here?  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Denisenko89|Denisenko89]] ([[User talk:Denisenko89|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Denisenko89|contribs]]) 17:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Lots of those edits look good to me. For instance, judging by edits like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ka%C4%8Danik_Gorge&diff=prev&oldid=590521076 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mramorac_belts&diff=prev&oldid=592953857 this], I think Nikswerdhond is trying to clean up problems with <nowiki>{{coord missing|Serbia}}</nowiki> tags. However, if you still disagree, have you tried talking to them? That could be a good way forward.
:Have you edited with a different account? [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 17:11, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
::Its not the technical side i'm talking but but the renaming and removal of contraversial content. Is it allowed for users to change them without any kind of agreement?  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Denisenko89|Denisenko89]] ([[User talk:Denisenko89|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Denisenko89|contribs]]) 17:47, 30 January 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::Of course people can edit articles. If there's something specific that you disagree with, have you tried discussing it? That could be a good way forward. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 17:49, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Right. I'll talk to him and try to see what's his reasoning behind the changes he made. Does anyone else have an opinion?  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Denisenko89|Denisenko89]] ([[User talk:Denisenko89|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Denisenko89|contribs]]) 18:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Have you edited with a different account? [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 18:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
::I also think that those moves are controversial. He was renaming articles without anyone's agreement. I asked for an advice. --[[Special:Contributions/94.189.194.63|94.189.194.63]] ([[User talk:94.189.194.63|talk]]) 19:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Perhaps you could log back into your account. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 20:43, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

== Invitation to User Study ==

Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at [[User:Wkmaster|Wkmaster]] ([[User talk:Wkmaster|talk]]) 01:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC).

== Popular pages tool update ==


As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia Labs|Wikimedia Tool Labs]]. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at [[tools:~alexz/pop]], will become available over the next few weeks at [[toollabs:popularpages]]. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The [[toollabs:popularpages/view.php|tool to view historical data]] is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available [[toollabs:popularpages/config.php|now]] (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. [[mw:Help:OAuth|OAuth]] is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs. 

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the [[User:Mr.Z-man/Popular pages FAQ|updated FAQ]] or contact me on my talk page. [[User:Mr.Z-bot|Mr.Z-bot]] ([[User talk:Mr.Z-bot|talk]]) (for <span style="font-family:Broadway">[[User:Mr.Z-man|Mr.]][[User talk:Mr.Z-man|'''''Z-'''man'']]</span>) 05:25, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

==Miloš Popović (Scouting)==

I expanded the article [[Miloš Popović (Scouting)]] by translating the serbian article but need serious help. There are no references and no fotnotes on the original page. There are no ways to prove anything in the article. So anyone who could lent a hand with finding refs?[[User:Stepojevac|Stepojevac]] ([[User talk:Stepojevac|talk]]) 18:38, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

==Question==
What ever happened to [[User:WhiteWriter]]? Just curious. [[User:23 editor|23 editor]] ([[User talk:23 editor|talk]]) 18:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:Administrator who deleted their userpage can answer your question.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 19:45, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Which one would that be? The userspace no longer has a history. [[User:23 editor|23 editor]] ([[User talk:23 editor|talk]]) 20:49, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:Tadija / WhiteWriter's account is now [[User talk:F382d56d7a18630cf764a5b576ea1b4810467238|here]]. The history still exists. That account does not edit any more, but he does still seem to be editing by other means. Ditto on sr.wikipedia. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 21:27, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:I don't know who deleted their account. According to [[Wikipedia:Username policy]] ''"It is not possible to delete user accounts, as all contributions must be assigned to some identifier"''. Some administrator obviously deleted their account. Like I said, if you want to get answer to your question, try to find administrator who deleted their userpage.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 21:40, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
::The account has not been deleted. It's now [[User talk:F382d56d7a18630cf764a5b576ea1b4810467238|here]]. The talkpage history still exists, the edits still exist, and so on. For instance, look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Territory_of_the_Military_Commander_in_Serbia&diff=prev&oldid=570128536 this signed talkpage edit]. That account does not edit any more, but he does still seem to be editing by other means. Ditto on sr.wikipedia. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 21:27, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

: Mm-hmm. [[User:23 editor|23 editor]] ([[User talk:23 editor|talk]]) 22:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:Thats talkpage of another account.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 22:09, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
::No. It's the same account; the account was renamed. Accounts cannot be deleted, but sometimes they are renamed. Look at the account's edits; you have seen them before. Who do you think wrote [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Antidiskriminator&diff=prev&oldid=564701241 this] on your talkpage? It's not a forgery. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 20:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
: Interesting. The question of course is "why?". [[User:23 editor|23 editor]] ([[User talk:23 editor|talk]]) 20:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
: No record of renaming in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/renameuser&offset=&limit=500&type=renameuser&user= username log page].--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 22:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
::There ''is'' evidence on that log, left by the same admin who made some other relevant edits. However, I don't want to have to keep explaining every detail; he wanted privacy. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 22:40, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

==Project scope==
I think that article [[Republic of Crimea]] is beyond WP Serbia scope and therefore suggest that we remove it from article talk page? I know that we have some experienced editors on Kosovo topic but I think that we need to "send" them to take part in discussion personally. Especially if adopted practices can affect Kosovo case. But still I think we should remove WP Serbia from Republic of Crimea talk page. All the best.--[[User:MirkoS18|MirkoS18]] ([[User talk:MirkoS18|talk]]) 21:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
*Sources connect [[Republic of Crimea]] with Serbia/Kosovo case so it should remain within scope of WP Serbia.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 22:24, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

== Article alert ==

Can someone exyplain me how is Article alert working? Who is updating that pages? An where? --'''<span style="font-family:Perpetua; font-size:medium;">[[User:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ąnαșταη</span>]] ([[User talk:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">ταlκ</span>]])</span>''' 16:27, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
:If a talkpage has {{tl|WikiProject Serbia}} on it, a bot will monitor the page for important changes (deletions, requested moves, &c). The bot keeps a list of alerts [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Article alerts|here]]. You can see a recent update [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Serbia/Article_alerts&curid=30659008&diff=601181181&oldid=601021098 here]. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 18:30, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
::I know it now, its automatick, so no one is updating, thank you! --'''<span style="font-family:Perpetua; font-size:medium;">[[User:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ąnαșταη</span>]] ([[User talk:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">ταlκ</span>]])</span>''' 21:05, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[Persecution of Ottoman Muslims]] ==
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The article [[Persecution of Ottoman Muslims]] has been [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed for deletion]]&#32; because of the following concern:
:'''The article is a compilation of original research and POV propaganding a fringe theory on persecutions of Muslim's in their own state during the centuries. This naming and topic are not supported by neutral academic sources.'''

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== [[Association of Serbian municipalities, Kosovo]] and [[Assembly of the Community of Serbian municipalities]] ==

Hello, could you look into the sections about User:Qwerty786 in the talk pages of these two articles and suggest how our dispute could be resolved? [[User:Heracletus|Heracletus]] ([[User talk:Heracletus|talk]]) 22:18, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
:I agree Brussels agreement is clear all government of Serbia institutions are being abolished and no longer exist and it's not a accurate to say anything about  government of Serbia parallel institutions continuing when Brussels is clear they are all being abolished as only government allowed in Kosovo is Kosovo government [[User:Qwerty786|Qwerty786]] ([[User talk:Qwerty786|talk]]) 22:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

== Request ==

Please comment at [[Talk:Twice_Born#Language]]. [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 22:15, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

== Vanja Bulic ==

Please help expand article about [[Vanja Bulic]]. It is also considered for deletion by some ignorant deletionist. [[User:QuackDoctor|QuackDoctor]] ([[User talk:QuackDoctor|talk]]) 22:08, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

== Requested move notification ==
Greetings! I have recently listed a [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move discussion]] at [[Talk:SS Polizei-Selbstschutz-Regiment Sandschak#Requested move]], regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67#top|send... over]]) 11:04, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

== Requested move notification ==

Greetings! I have recently relisted a [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move discussion]] at [[Talk:June Uprising in Eastern Herzegovina#Requested move]], regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67#top|send... over]]) 01:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)<!-- Template:RM notification -->

== Requested move notification ==

Greetings! I have recently relisted a [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move discussion]] at [[Talk:Moslem militia#Requested move]], regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67#top|send... over]]) 09:04, 30 April 2014 (UTC)<!-- Template:RM notification -->
:Bear in mind that these proposals are automatically listed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia/Article alerts]], by a bot, if the affected talkpage is tagged with {{tl|WikiProject Serbia}}. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 13:01, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greater Romania (political concept)]]  ==

Would you please tell us your opinion on this matter? The concept concerns Serbia. All comments are welcome.[[User:Fakirbakir|Fakirbakir]] ([[User talk:Fakirbakir|talk]]) 08:18, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2014|Wiki Loves Pride 2014]] ==

You are invited to participate in '''[[Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2014|Wiki Loves Pride 2014]]''', a campaign to create and improve [[LGBT]]-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of '''June''', culminating with a multinational '''edit-a-thon on June 21'''. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can [[Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2014/Remote Participation|'''participate remotely''']]. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within [[:Category:LGBT in Europe|Category:LGBT in Europe]] may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related '''[[:commons:Commons:Photo challenge#2014 - June - Wiki Loves Pride 2014|photo challenge]]'''. You are encouraged to share the '''[[Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2014/Results|results of your work here]]'''. Happy editing! --[[User:Another Believer|<span style="color:navy;">Another Believer</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Another Believer|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Talk</span>]])</sub> 18:51, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

== RfC: Should [[Nikola Tesla|Nikola Tesla's]] birthplace be changed? ==

An RfC [[Talk:Nikola Tesla#RfC: Should Tesla's birthplace be changed?|Should Tesla's birthplace be changed?]] has been created. Comments are welcome.- [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 15:43, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

== Leaflet For Wikiproject Serbia At Wikimania 2014 ==

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to: 
<br>
''[http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Project_Leaflets Project leaflets]''
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[[User:Adikhajuria|Adikhajuria]] ([[User talk:Adikhajuria|talk]]) 17:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

== Living people on EN wiki who are dead on other wikis ==
{{Resolved}}
The following individuals who are in the scope of this project are showing to be alive on the English wiki, but deceased on another language wiki:

# [[:Petar Manola]]: [[:it:Petar Manola|it:Morti nel 2004]] / [[:ru:Манола, Петар|ru:Персоналии, чья дата смерти не установлена]]
# [[:Nebojša Popović (handballer)]]: [[:sv:Nebojša Popović|sv:Avlidna 2001]]

Please help to find reliable sources to confirm if these individuals are alive or dead, or correct any mis-categorization on the relevant foreign-language article(s). Please see [[WP:LIVINGDEAD]] for more info and raise any issues on the talkpage. Thanks. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 08:58, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
:Nebojša Popović was mistake on sv.wiki. I could not find any source for death of Petar Manola. I would appreciate help of fellow editors who are better acquainted with football. {{U|FkpCascais}}?--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 22:22, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you {{U|Antidiskriminator}}, seems that Manola indeed parished in 2004 according to this football specialised website ([http://eu-football.info/_player.php?id=12922 EU-Football.info]). I´ll make further research and add it to the article. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 04:31, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Thanks FkpCascais.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 07:26, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

== Srem District ==

One user moved article [[Srem District]] to [[Syrmia District]]. Is thios a good thing or not? Is it really like that for Serbia, or only for Croatian reagion? --'''<span style="font-family:Perpetua; font-size:medium;">[[User:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ąnαșταη</span>]] ([[User talk:Anastan|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">ταlκ</span>]])</span>''' 17:18, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

: I think we should move this discussion to [[Talk:Syrmia]] because it looks like this 'normalization' took place for the Croatian county first, but may be equally as pointless as in the case of the Serbian district. I recently looked up the former in Google Books and found just a single hit. If reliable sources don't refer to these administrative units using the generic term, then it makes no real sense to force its use. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 19:07, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
::I don't agree. If somebody wants to propose renaming the article on [[Srem District]], the RM discussion should take place on its talkpage. --[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 19:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Antidiskriminator is absolutelly right, there shoud be a proper RfM. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 21:47, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

::: That goes without saying. What I'm saying is that the implicit rationale is shaky. --[[User:Joy|Joy &#91;shallot&#93;]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 22:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

== Unknown-importance Serbia articles ==

I would like to pay attention to members of this WikiProject to the large number of unknown-importance Serbia articles ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_Serbia_articles link]). At this moment there are 4,456 articles which belong to this WikiProject with non-assessed importance. Almost 1/3 of all articles. I know that there are a few of active members of this wikiproject, but coordinated action of small number of active members might help resolving this issue. I can testify that assessing articles during this warm Summer days can be relaxing, even at vacation. All the best.--[[User:Antidiskriminator|Antidiskriminator]] ([[User talk:Antidiskriminator|talk]]) 13:29, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

== [[Languages in censuses]] and [[Race and ethnicity in censuses]] ==

Pleas add information about this country to this articles.--[[User:Kaiyr|Kaiyr]] ([[User talk:Kaiyr|talk]]) 09:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

==Help from Serbian speaker, please==
I've blocked the static {{IP|95.180.123.154}} several times for intransigence and unresponsiveness. The last time, I asked on [[WP:ANI]] for help from a Serbian speaker to talk to the editor, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=616888531&oldid=616887670]. But I guess it wasn't likely that some such would happen to see it there. Can you help? I don't think the editor means to be disruptive, but they have never used an edit summary or edited a talkpage, and the changes they make are all to do with figures. The reason they're so unresponsive may be because they don't know they have a talkpage (it happens) but it may also be because they don't speak English. Could somebody from here please try to talk to him/her on their talkpage and explain why they keep getting blocked? I just got a new request for a block,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&diff=623109340&oldid=622971243] and it may have to come to that, but I'd just like to try this first. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] &#124; [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 10:05, 28 August 2014 (UTC).

==Serbian==
I see many articles that have a Serbian word (such as the article name) start like this: '''Veliki Krš''' ([[Serbian language|Serbian]]: Велики крш).  I also see many articles that start like this: '''Veliki Krš''' ([[Serbian Cyrillic]]: Велики крш).  What should be used for all Serbian articles: [[Serbian language|Serbian]] or [[Serbian Cyrillic]]?  Why? [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] ([[User talk:Hmains|talk]]) 19:20, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

== Comment on the WikiProject X proposal ==

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please '''[[meta:Grants:IEG/WikiProject X|review the proposal here]]''' and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my [[User talk:Harej|talk page]]. Thank you for your time! <small>(Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.)</small> [[User:Harej|Harej]] ([[User talk:Harej|talk]]) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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==Notability question==
Is [[Stefan Lalic]] notable? If so, please help with sourcing on what is a [[WP:BLP]] article to get it to a salvageable state. If not, please nominate it for deletion. [[User:Carlossuarez46|Carlossuarez46]] ([[User talk:Carlossuarez46|talk]]) 00:52, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

== Expert attention ==

This is a notice about [[:Category:Serbia articles needing expert attention]], which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated.<!-- Template:Expert-category-notice --> [[User:Iceblock|Iceblock]] ([[User talk:Iceblock#top|talk]]) 23:20, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Kosovo-related articles]] ==

Some editors are making unilateral changes and doing their best to make the template almost obsolete. I am asking people please to participate more in order to keep consensus alive. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 17:53, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
:You should stop canvassing. I notice that you didn't notify WikiProject Kosovo, even though this concerns the Kosovo manual of style rather than Serbia. This is because you only wanted people who would support your side of the discussion. [[User:Bobrayner|bobrayner]] ([[User talk:Bobrayner|talk]]) 18:20, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

=="{{noredirect|Serbia v Albania}}"==
I've suggested turning this redirect into an article on the rivalry between Serbia and Albania, see [[Talk:Serbia v Albania]] -- [[Special:Contributions/67.70.35.44|67.70.35.44]] ([[User talk:67.70.35.44|talk]]) 04:34, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

== Needeing inputs ==

On [[Talk:Louis_I_of_Hungary#Problems_with_Hungarian_19th_century_map_and_the_alleged_domains_of_Louis_in_the_South|this discussion]] regarding [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lands_under_Louis_the_Great_in_the_middle_of_the_14th_century.jpg ths map]. The discussion is also [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Lands_under_Louis_the_Great_in_the_middle_of_the_14th_century.jpg here] Thank you. [[User:FkpCascais|FkpCascais]] ([[User talk:FkpCascais|talk]]) 15:37, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

==Copyright problem in [[Tourism in Serbia]]==
Hi. Unfortunately, copyright issues were discovered in this article about two weeks ago. It was blanked and listed at [[Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2014 November 5]]. Investigation shows that the oldest edit is a copyright problem as well, as it duplicates material published at MIT. (You can see more at that page.) Because of this, the article needs to be rewritten. Is anyone here able to help? If I handle it as an admin who works copyright, I'll save as much as I can, but it could really use attention from somebody with time and background in this area, who can more quickly locate resources to build a proper article. If you're willing to help out, directions for how and where are on the template blanking the article, in the section beginning, "Can you help resolve this issue?" --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 12:18, 20 November 2014 (UTC)