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Should point out that it was an informal ad hoc coalition. It had no formal organization. Also, many conservative Democrats, like Strom Thurmond and John Connally, moved to the Republicans, and some conservative southern Democrats remain in the party. --[[User:The Four Deuces|The Four Deuces]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 09:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC) |
Should point out that it was an informal ad hoc coalition. It had no formal organization. Also, many conservative Democrats, like Strom Thurmond and John Connally, moved to the Republicans, and some conservative southern Democrats remain in the party. --[[User:The Four Deuces|The Four Deuces]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 09:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC) |
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==A defeat for the coalition?== |
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"Together with Northeast Republicans"? |
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This is wrong. The conservatives in the republican party were just as for the civil rights acts as anyone. This was a major issue that divided the 'conservative coalition'. Southern Democrats were for segregation, many (not all) conservative republicans were for desegregation. Robert Taft himself was for civil rights. Read his letters [[Special:Contributions/68.195.102.206|68.195.102.206]] ([[User talk:68.195.102.206|talk]]) 01:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)JM |
This is wrong. The conservatives in the republican party were just as for the civil rights acts as anyone. This was a major issue that divided the 'conservative coalition'. Southern Democrats were for segregation, many (not all) conservative republicans were for desegregation. Robert Taft himself was for civil rights. Read his letters [[Special:Contributions/68.195.102.206|68.195.102.206]] ([[User talk:68.195.102.206|talk]]) 01:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)JM |
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==Grammar== |
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I know it's a current fad, in some circles, to use 'Democrat' as an adjective (i.e "Democrat Party"), but this is improper grammar. I took the liberty of fixing these instances. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RobM22|RobM22]] ([[User talk:RobM22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobM22|contribs]]) 05:54, 17 November 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Conservative Coalition vs. the Liberal Consensus== |
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I'm confused, how does the Conservative Coalition relate to the Liberal Consensus, and exist with it? The one holds the Conservatism dominated politics up until 1964. The other, that Liberalism was ubiquitous, and accepted by the vast majority as the right ideology. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.240.156.83|67.240.156.83]] ([[User talk:67.240.156.83|talk]]) 05:50, 4 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: Some books, such V. O. Key's ''Southern Politics in State and Nation'' and David Mayhew's ''Party Loyalty among Congressmen'' describe the contours of party loyalty in this period before 1964. Certain aspects of the early 20th century progressive platform, notably support for farmers, were enthusiastically supported by Southern Democrats. Perhaps the fairest description would be to argue that the Southern Democrats worked as effective swing votes, getting their preferred issues passed by allying with their other Democrats on some issues (farm issues, rural issue, infrastructure, foreign policy), with Republicans on others (opposing other spending, unions), and successfully frustrating liberal Democrats and Republicans on those issues where the other two groups agreed (such as Civil Rights). There's also evidence that Southern Democrats were particularly "party loyal" in areas with a small number of black residents, where congressional campaigns tended to be more about traditional Democratic vs Republican issues. In areas with a larger number of black residents, V. O. Key's "threat" hypothesis held true, and the Southern Democrats elected tended to be "moderate" or conservative on non-race issues rather than loyal Democrats, as race became the overriding factor in voting loyalty. |
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[edit]Should point out that it was an informal ad hoc coalition. It had no formal organization. Also, many conservative Democrats, like Strom Thurmond and John Connally, moved to the Republicans, and some conservative southern Democrats remain in the party. --The Four Deuces (talk) 09:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
A defeat for the coalition?
[edit]"Together with Northeast Republicans"?
This is wrong. The conservatives in the republican party were just as for the civil rights acts as anyone. This was a major issue that divided the 'conservative coalition'. Southern Democrats were for segregation, many (not all) conservative republicans were for desegregation. Robert Taft himself was for civil rights. Read his letters 68.195.102.206 (talk) 01:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)JM
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[edit]I know it's a current fad, in some circles, to use 'Democrat' as an adjective (i.e "Democrat Party"), but this is improper grammar. I took the liberty of fixing these instances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobM22 (talk • contribs) 05:54, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Conservative Coalition vs. the Liberal Consensus
[edit]I'm confused, how does the Conservative Coalition relate to the Liberal Consensus, and exist with it? The one holds the Conservatism dominated politics up until 1964. The other, that Liberalism was ubiquitous, and accepted by the vast majority as the right ideology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.240.156.83 (talk) 05:50, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
- Some books, such V. O. Key's Southern Politics in State and Nation and David Mayhew's Party Loyalty among Congressmen describe the contours of party loyalty in this period before 1964. Certain aspects of the early 20th century progressive platform, notably support for farmers, were enthusiastically supported by Southern Democrats. Perhaps the fairest description would be to argue that the Southern Democrats worked as effective swing votes, getting their preferred issues passed by allying with their other Democrats on some issues (farm issues, rural issue, infrastructure, foreign policy), with Republicans on others (opposing other spending, unions), and successfully frustrating liberal Democrats and Republicans on those issues where the other two groups agreed (such as Civil Rights). There's also evidence that Southern Democrats were particularly "party loyal" in areas with a small number of black residents, where congressional campaigns tended to be more about traditional Democratic vs Republican issues. In areas with a larger number of black residents, V. O. Key's "threat" hypothesis held true, and the Southern Democrats elected tended to be "moderate" or conservative on non-race issues rather than loyal Democrats, as race became the overriding factor in voting loyalty.
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