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Can you check User:Flagvisioner/sandbox2 CubanoBoi (talk) 15:29, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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Check your commons talk page CubanoBoi (talk) 23:01, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

I've already seen it. I'm busy at the moment. Flagvisioner (talk) 23:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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Emblems in Vietnam

• Can you continue your works about Vietnamese emblems ? I like yours so much, however, I was such blocked and cancelled that I can not self-work. Please ! (Nurlac (talk) 07:51, 4 December 2022 (UTC))

  Why were you blocked? Flagvisioner (talk) 21:24, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

• I do not know. However, you continue your work, because it is very good. Thank you ! (Nurlac (talk) 11:46, 5 December 2022 (UTC))

A barnstar for you!

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your article copied to Flags of territories of the Holy Roman Empire at Wikimedia Commons. Alexphangia Talk 14:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

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I cannot transfer this file, because they gave me an error

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Can you fix this flag and upload to commons? Alexphangia Talk 16:59, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Says I can't move it for security reasons. Perhaps ask an administrator? Flagvisioner (talk) 02:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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Kingdom of Lithuania (1918)

First of all, WP:BRD quite clearly says not to restore edits if they are reverted (it is strange that a completely different editor comes out of nowhere so I assume that you are probably connected to that editor). Secondly, the Kingdom never really existed (the King-elect never even visited Lithuania). Thirdly, the Germans did not allow to use the Lithuanian flag and instead demanded for the German Empire flag to be used instead. – sbaio 20:32, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

The Kingdom might not have existed, but Lithuania did exist as a de-jure state in a way. Also, what is your source for the German Empire flag being demanded to be used? At what time did this demand start? My interpretation is that on that day in April, the Lithuanian flag was adopted, but German Empire authorities advised against it after adoption. Flagvisioner (talk) 20:43, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Seimas, Visuotinė lietuvių enciklopedija (Universal Lithuanian Encyclopedia), and a couple of books about Lithuanian heraldry. – sbaio 18:23, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Not sure what you’re trying to say here, because it does contradict your claim a bit. In the encyclopedia: “The protocol of the commission dated 04/19/1918 announced that the national flag consists of three colors: red…green…yellow at the top; in the upper corner of the flag, near the pole or in the middle of it, there must be the coat of arms of the state. Such a flag was unanimously approved by the Council of Lithuania on April 25, 1918 and decided to raise it in Vilnius, on the tower of the Gediminas Castle, after receiving the permission of the German occupation administration. After a disrespectful article appeared in the press about lowering the German flag and raising the Lithuanian flag, the Germans returned their flag to the tower, and allowed the tricolor to be raised below or on the side (the Presidium of the Council of Lithuania refused this right).”

So, it doesn’t say that the Germans didn’t allow this flag to be flown, it just says that they didn’t allow them to lower their flag; Lithuania’s being flown on the side or below. But, it does say they approved a yellow-green-red flag WITH the coat of arms in the upper left corner. Image can be seen at: [1]. I recommend you read your sources clearly before making such a claim. If you had, you would have at least mentioned that the “Kingdom”’s flag, while not looking the same as Lithuania’s flag today, had the coat of arms added to it. Flagvisioner (talk) 19:26, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

I am very well aware of my sources since I am a native speaker of Lithuanian unlike you who uses that garbage Google Translate. The image that you linked does not work so you ought to fix it, because it is not clear what is shown there. In addition, the sources write about national flag, which is not the Kingdom's flag (Kingdom is nowhere mentioned in any of the sources). Here are the translations, because Google Translate does not take other language grammar into consideration when translating text:

• Seimas sources says – On April 19, 1918, the commission approved a project for Lithuanian national flag, which consisted of three evenly horizontal stripes – yellow, green and red. The members of the commission proclaimed in the protocol that "[the commission] decided that it would be a tricolour, which would consist of red at the bottom, green in the middle and yellow at the top." On April 25, 1918, the Council of Lithuania unanimously approved this flag project as the flag of Lithuanian state. In that evening's meeting it was suggested that the Lithuanian tricolour should be raised over the Gediminas' Tower. The permission on raising the flag over the Gediminas' Tower was granted in the middle of 1918 after difficult negotiations with German occupation authorities. However, after a news article in Lithuanian press about the raising of Lithuania's flag instead of German flag, the German authorities from Berlin demanded for German flag to be reinstated and permitted for Lithuanian flag to be flown under it or on the other side. The commission decided not to accept the demands and Lithuanian flag was instead raised next to the building of Council of Lithuania.
• Visuotinė lietuvių enciklopedija (Universal Lithuanian Encyclopedia) source says – exactly the same thing (much of the stuff from Seimas source is trimmed) and also mentions that The commission's protocol of April 19, 1918 (in Vilnius), stated that national flag consists of three colours – red at the bottom, green in the middle and yellow at the top. The flag was also to include a coat of arms of the state on its top corner near the pole or in the middle of it.

In addition, Lithuania's coat of arms (again no mention of Kingdom, because it was a national emblem of Lithuanian nation) did not really have a standard in 1918–1940 and many different designs were used. Therefore, claiming that flag and/or coat of arms were connected to the non-existent Kingdom is WP:OR. – sbaio 20:05, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

So in that case, before Lithuania offered a king to its throne, should there be a different article titled for Lithuania from February 16 to June 4 that year? The council was unable to (technically) form a government, so calling it a “country” would also be misleading. Maybe “Independent Lithuania (1918)”? Flagvisioner (talk) 22:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

A image from from the "1910's" proves the existence of such flag therefore it should look like this.

BlinxTheKitty (talk) 19:41, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

That postcard is from the late 1910s (1918–1919) so that is just an interpretation of different artists (Lithuanians living abroad liked to do that). I have photos from 1918–1940 (from official state events) with Lithuanian flags and coat of arms since some of my relatives served in either the military or governmental institutions in those years and none of the photos have the design that you showed here. The tricolour (yellow-green-red) and the coat of arms shield (with different designs) were always separated from each other. – sbaio 20:05, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

LMFAOOO are you somewhat implying a friend of mine is a sockpuppet of me? look at our files, mine are total dogwater compared to Flagvisoners.

You also yourself did not link a source that germany demanded their flag to be used lol. BlinxTheKitty (talk) 21:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Please do source your claims, I would love to see your claims be shot down. Flagvisioner is NOT a sockpuppet of Blinx. IndysNotHere (talk) 22:50, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Nowhere did I say that he was a sockpuppet. But it is clear that stealth canvassing is in play here. Because how another editor mysteriously appeared in that page? Does that also include you (another mysterious editor who has never edited that page)? – sbaio 18:23, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Liberian Flag

@Flagvisioner: Hello. I appreciate the changes you made to the article Flag of Liberia, but I have one major question: where is the source for these claims? This seems like good information, and I want it in the article, but if you cannot provide a source for the claims in the History section, I will have to revert the edits.

I have found a source for the claim regarding the original flag's creation in 1827, but I haven't found one for "The Governor, in a letter dated July 10, 1847, asked Susannah Elizabeth Lewis to head the committee" yet. RoundSquare (talk) 18:14, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Source is from a document published in the second International Congress of Vexillology, “Flags over Liberia”: https://fiav.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/ICV02-19.pdf

Keep in mind the document isn’t entirely accurate, probably as a result of human error in remembering the date, in the date of when the Colony’s flag was adopted; it says the correct date besides 1847 instead of 1827. Smith provides some evidence of this in “Flags and Arms across the World” by stating that a Liberian ship flying the 1827 flag was seized by the British in 1845 for lack of a recognized ensign.

Besides the date, everything else regarding flags appears to be correct. Plus, that piece of information is directly quoted. Flagvisioner (talk) 18:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

@Flagvisioner: Thank you very much. This is a good source, and I have cited it properly in the article. I haven't looked into edits other than what you've done on Flag of Liberia, but when you have a good source for your claims, you should get in the habit of citing them yourself. To cite this work, you would put this text after your sentence:

<ref>{{cite web|last=de Graaf|first=G.|url=https://fiav.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/ICV02-19.pdf|title=Flags Over Liberia|work=|date=|pages=123-124|accessdate=10 June 2023}}</ref> RoundSquare (talk) 19:14, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

I see, thank you! Flagvisioner (talk) 19:29, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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