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Public consensus has turned very sour towards him, even more so with the new video from DogPack 404 released today. [[Special:Contributions/199.107.198.251|199.107.198.251]] ([[User talk:199.107.198.251|talk]]) 08:35, 8 August 2024 (UTC) |
Public consensus has turned very sour towards him, even more so with the new video from DogPack 404 released today. [[Special:Contributions/199.107.198.251|199.107.198.251]] ([[User talk:199.107.198.251|talk]]) 08:35, 8 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Unfortunately he still has 300M+ subscribers. And until something big happens, the big PR control he has is not going to disappear. [[User:ItzSwirlz|ItzSwirlz]] ([[User talk:ItzSwirlz|talk]]) 15:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC) |
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MrBeast hits 262 million subscribers
Update the page? TownMaker1474 (talk) 02:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Already done Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 09:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2024
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Crankyyy (talk) 11:20, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi Mrbeast's name is incorrect. May I change it pls ?
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 11:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Most subscribed channel on the platform - sources needed
Not long ago, MrBeast's YT channel has seemed to surpass T-Series by as of now, ~1,250 subs. (when I made this) Do you think there can be some sources to prove this? (refer to WP:VER) Because then there's the battle of most subbed YouTube channel. Please lmk if the article will mention this. Thank you, respectfully Mod creator 🏡 🗨 📝 00:18, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have no doubt reliable sources will report on it soon, but we have to wait until articles are written and published. FunIsOptional (talk) (use ping please) 00:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
apply for edit access
can you give me edit access, i wil Don't add misinformation, i will add Updeted subscribers count if MrBeast hit 282M subscribers, i will updete it. 😄 Gaplow43286 (talk) 08:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Possible implementation of an auto-updating Subscriber/analytic count for this article?
It seems like a lot of work for Wikipedia editors to increment subscriber counts multiple times per month. Is there any way to use Youtube's API to mitigate this by having Subscriber count increment in accordance to his current youtube statistics? 144.51.249.242 (talk) 17:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is a pretty good idea. I wonder if some module can get some data from YouTube to do this. CarlFilip19 (talk) 18:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Mr.Beast is technically a nfl free agent
in one of his video he was signed by the Bucks and his contract is over and he didn't announce his retirement he's a free agent Jayden Fry (talk) 04:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
grammar
"With over 298 million subscribers, he is currently the most-subscribed channel on YouTube."
this should be "With over 298 million subscribers, he currently has the most-subscribed channel on YouTube." perhaps the structure could be inverted because of this change 216.164.249.213 (talk) 01:19, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
"greatest youtuber of all time"
Current intro reads, "...and is widely regarded as the greatest YouTuber of all time". This seems like a very subjective opinion and is not backed up by evidence. The citation associated with the sentence is a single source opinion that says hes the 'most successful' youtuber.
A single source opinion for him being 'most successful' is not sufficient to say 'widely regarded as the greatest'. I would delete the phrase. Popher (talk) 22:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Popher The edit has been reverted. -REDACTED403 (talk) 06:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Public image
the public image section needs some work, some sentences are so banal it borders on absurd "Donaldson also builds a parasocial relationship with his viewers by "looking directly at the camera and talking to the audience"". — jonas (talk) 00:23, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Do we add a 200 Million Award
In one of his youtube shorts, youtube mailed him a 200 million award. 208.103.132.96 (talk) 05:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
sub count
303 million now 216.164.249.213 (talk) 11:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected Edit Request 19 July 2024
In the second paragraph, the sentence "His videos became increasingly grand and extravagant" is included, which is grammatically incorrect, as the article is written in present tense as Mr Beast is still and active Youtuber. I'd like to request for this to be changed to "His videos have become increasingly grand and extravagant." EndTheWikiEditor (talk) 04:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Restoring non-groomer info with source
@Traumnovelle Hey, the original info before Rhett vandalized it said Ava wasn’t a groomer, with Rolling Stone cited to back that up. Would you be alright with me restoring this? Snokalok (talk) 06:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've looked at the original plus the cited source, I don't see anything in the source saying they've been proven false, just by Tyson refuted. Given the accusations are coming from twitter posts and what-not it's probably best just to state something like. 'Tyson stepped down amidst a wave of online controversy/hate'. I don't think the accusations themself are due weight and given BLP concerns it is probably best to omit them all together. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:54, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- The source says refuted by the alleged victim, with refuted meaning - according to Merriam Webster - proven wrong by argument or evidence. So, proven false. Anyway, my line of thought is that people are going to look at the Wikipedia page and wonder why this isn't addressed here. But obviously we operate on consensus, so if you're still not convinced, so be it, I won't bludgeon. I will tag though because it's 3AM and I know this thread will be forgotten after a night's sleep. @traumnovelled Snokalok (talk) 07:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle Snokalok (talk) 07:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- I misread it, I presumed Tyson refuted (which colloquially means to dispute). Still I just see no need to mention it per @JPxG, the current wording is fine. If secondary sources visit this it may be worth revisiting but based on current sourcing I think the current version is fine. But I'm not interested in the subject much overall and won't comment further, beyond that per BLP it should not be mentioned without secondary coverage, just saw the RFPP and had a look and saw the unsourced BLP content. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- The source says refuted by the alleged victim, with refuted meaning - according to Merriam Webster - proven wrong by argument or evidence. So, proven false. Anyway, my line of thought is that people are going to look at the Wikipedia page and wonder why this isn't addressed here. But obviously we operate on consensus, so if you're still not convinced, so be it, I won't bludgeon. I will tag though because it's 3AM and I know this thread will be forgotten after a night's sleep. @traumnovelled Snokalok (talk) 07:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think the situation should be explained in the "personal views" section. Either the mention should be brief or moved to a different section MessageApp (talk) 06:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just wait till all the information is out and then something in-depth can be added if needed, for now I think the optimal way to deal with this is mention a sentence on the current controversy that only lays out the known information with no speculation as that would break WP:NPOV and/or WP:NOR. Legendarycool (talk) 10:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
I think some tweaks should be made in this section. I'm not sure what the tweaks should be, but I think that it needs some work. Master106 (talk) 07:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
BLP rules
@TempoaryAcc @ThingsCanOnlyGetWetter Adding unsourced defamatory content to a BLP is a severe violation of wiki regs. You both have more editorial experience than me, you should know better. Snokalok (talk) 12:13, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah apologies, I've removed similar defamatory content from pages such as Chuggaaconroy. I won't re-add it here. --ThingsCanOnlyGetWetter (talk) 13:18, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Kris Tyson article?
Should we make a Wikipedia article for Kris/Chris Tyson? HiGuys69420 (talk) 08:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- The results of a previous discussion was to merge that article with this one. Originalcola (talk) 18:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- But that was a while back when Tyson had less publicity. Now there's a bunch of articles about that person and I think a rediscussion is due. Pyraminxsolver (talk) 04:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yea we definitely need to discuss if Kris gets an article or not HiGuys69420 (talk) 03:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- an article is warranted for tyson, the old ruling is outdated and not enforceable. he is all over the news currently, one of the biggest stories in the world. higuys if you want you can definitely make an article NotQualified (talk) 18:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- But that was a while back when Tyson had less publicity. Now there's a bunch of articles about that person and I think a rediscussion is due. Pyraminxsolver (talk) 04:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2024
the line that reads "The alleged victim has denied said allegations, referring to them as "massive lies and twisting the truth," and that Tyson had only "made a few edgy jokes." should not be included in the article anymore, or be revised to reflect new information, because the sources used are outdated and victim has since publicly changed their tune, as shown through secondary sources linked below.
https://deadline.com/2024/07/mrbeast-co-hosts-alleged-grooming-victim-changes-tune-1236024442/ https://www.indy100.com/celebrities/ava-kris-tyson-victim-mrbeast https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/streamers/news-kris-tyson-s-alleged-grooming-victim-lavags-speaks CptPurpleHeroAlt2 (talk) 04:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Allegations on Mr Beast
Recently is formal employee started accusing or exposing Mr beast should be include that in this Wiki? Insane miner (talk) 12:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- As long as you have reliable sources! You can see this list of them. TheWikiToby (talk) 13:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- well one source is his former employee
- Second is his best friend Kris who did inappropriate chats with a minor which Jimmy Donald son know
- Source 1 https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=d9aaLN4CjkkQ1hrC&v=k5xf40KrK3I&feature=youtu.be
- Source 2
- https://tribune.com.pk/story/2483926/mrbeast-discord-leaks-reveal-former-mrbeast-employee-ava-kris-tysons-alleged-misconduct-with-minors
- I can't prove them but u can say this are some serious allegations Insane miner (talk) 13:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Don’t add anything until there is more information and it’s clear what is true and what is false. Ensure you follow Wp:BLP Legendarycool (talk) 14:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- i can't add anything
- To edit we should request first
- And I have more sources which make this allegations strong
- Ofcourse I can't prove them but this is will not stop here that is for sure
- This can be a full blown scandal Insane miner (talk) 15:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there,
- You are unable to make edits because this page is semi-protected and your account is either not 4 days old or has made less than 10 edits. If you have more reliable sources please share them as I don't believe the sources you've linked would count though. If you are directly making the allegations since you claim you cannot prove them see WP:NOR. Sources like "exposing" youtube videos will most likely not fall under the strict requirements for sourcing on such a matter, especially since the claims in the youtube video could be potentially libelous. Originalcola (talk) 16:27, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that exposing YouTube videos could possibly be wrong since videos don't hold any contract that creator should definitely should fullfill all the things which are said by anyone
- Creator can just say " it's just for entertainment purposes only"
- But my second source that is ava Kris conversation with a minor;14 to be exact about inappropriate things like pornography is true and I have some strong citations for that
- Citation:-
- https://github.com/KrisCaught/leaks/releases
- This contains all the discord chats of that particular server
- since that contains about 500,000 chats it will be problematic to go through everything so here are few images from that chats which could help us
- https://kriscaught.github.io/
- It is also observed that Jimmy Donaldson was also in that discord server
- This claims are provided by his former moderator of discord Nathan W
- I am still a rookie to this Wiki so I could have done some mistakes please correct me Insane miner (talk) 18:15, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has strict sourcing standards. That's for sure. However given he's a huge figure online and tons of allegations are coming out, I find it likely this controversy is going to be covered by more "reliable sources" which would make editors more comfortable with mentioning it in this article. Lazesusdasiru (talk) 19:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Editors on Wikipedia generally aren't supposed to make inferences or draw conclusions from multiple different primary sources due to potential bias and should primarily use interpretations from secondary sources which as mentioned by another editor will likely be forthcoming. When dealing with an ongoing event where the facts are not 100% clear just from the primary sources(eg.statements from those involved, the GitHub depository, etc.), it's often better to wait a bit for reliable secondary sources which there likely will be in the coming days. See WP:PRIMARY and WP:BLPPRIMARY.
- I hope that helps! Originalcola (talk) 20:28, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed Legendarycool (talk) 21:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- understood
- Let's wait for sometime and verify this sources till we get to a conclusion
- It is important for reliable sources to come than some waves of allegations without any bases Insane miner (talk) 05:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- The video shows clear evidence... Sigi31415 (talk) 12:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sigi31415 Maybe, but we still need established secondary sources. As far as we know, it is a completely random YouTube video from a questionable, unverified source that accuses a a real living person and the biggest YouTuber ever, of being a fraud. TheWikiToby (talk) 13:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- It shouldn't be an issue finding further sources and adding a point about a controversy. The examples shown in the video also contain further sources Sigi31415 (talk) 14:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ok but the full picture isn’t clear or even if it is real so wait until more verifiable evidence is put forward at that moment it is mostly 1 or 2 allegations and everyone pilling up on a large YouTuber that get you views to profit off this in any way possible also no news channels have covered this so wait till at least that.
- sorry if I’ve got any errors in the reply I’m probably sleep deprived. :) Legendarycool (talk) 15:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- The sources in this question are primary sources, which is problematic in this regard for the reasons stated by TheWikiToby. Even if the evidence is "clear" from the perspective of an editor that would be your interpretation. Originalcola (talk) 17:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, wait till news companies start to cover it. Legendarycool (talk) 21:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- It shouldn't be an issue finding further sources and adding a point about a controversy. The examples shown in the video also contain further sources Sigi31415 (talk) 14:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sigi31415 Maybe, but we still need established secondary sources. As far as we know, it is a completely random YouTube video from a questionable, unverified source that accuses a a real living person and the biggest YouTuber ever, of being a fraud. TheWikiToby (talk) 13:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Don’t add anything until there is more information and it’s clear what is true and what is false. Ensure you follow Wp:BLP Legendarycool (talk) 14:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- I found this on WP:RSPDEADLINE . [1] you can use this. I don't know where to put this Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:52, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Shifted footnote numbers starting from 11
An issue of the utmost priority, I know, but... it really bugs me out : clicking any ref ([5], [7], [10], etc.) up to 10 has the correct url, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast#cite_note-10 or its corresponding ref-10 But starting from 11, the url is the number plus one, see how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast#cite_ref-12 leads to [11] (and cite_note-12 leads to the [11] footnote). All the others after 11 have the same issue. I'm not 100% sure about the fix for this so I point it out here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.7.232.202 (talk) 23:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Will the Allegations of Beast Games be added?
So basically what is going on is they is a wave of allegations against Mr Beast, many contestants came foward with allegations that Beast Games have inhumane conditions such as not getting medication, dehydration, starving and being badly bruised by other contestants. Will this be added? If yes, when will it be? 114.73.192.234 (talk) 08:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- we can't add it since there is no concert evidence that such things happened
- For now it is a allegation only
- If we get news from reliable sources then we can check about it
- Myself who is doing search on Mr beast allegations can confirm that there is no reliable source for your allegation
- Reliable sources are saying this are allegations not 100% true Insane miner (talk) 11:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Fraud through lottery, kid manipulation etc.
The YT Video describes quite a lot of reasonable extremly shitty and potential illegal activities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5xf40KrK3I It should be added Sigi31415 (talk) 12:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- please read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RSPDEADLINE
- Note that we cannot claim Mr beast is doing any illegal activities since he can say "this for entertainment only"
- And that former employee guy also didn't show any reliable sources to edit this wiki Insane miner (talk) 12:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Insane miner WP:RSPDEADLINE has nothing to do with that they asked. RSPDEADLINE is referring to the reliability of Deadline Hollywood. TheWikiToby (talk) 17:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sigi31415 has discussed adding content from this video and another editor linked an article from Deadline Hollywood that assumedly contained the same allegations mentioned in the video which is why WP:RSPDEADLINE was mentioned. Originalcola (talk) 17:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Insane miner WP:RSPDEADLINE has nothing to do with that they asked. RSPDEADLINE is referring to the reliability of Deadline Hollywood. TheWikiToby (talk) 17:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would be better to keep discussion on an issue to the original discussion thread as opposed to a new one. Originalcola (talk) 17:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- youtube links are not sources, we are not adding he broke the law unless he was found guilty. one mans accusations are not a good enough source for the claim. let the news articles cover it, anything they say (given its reliable) can be covered here NotQualified (talk) 18:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- As mentioned below, yesterday's AP article mentions this in a couple of paragraphs under the header "Giveaways questioned". AP has been one of the top RS here in WP, so it should be included now that its being reported on by various RS. 2601:19E:427E:5BB0:702B:4F7E:A5CD:E5F0 (talk) 21:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Recent allegation
Should we include the allegation on this article? While the source in question is from YouTube video of the ex employee of mrbeast, the virality of the video gain so much attention to the point that an employee of mrbeast has publicly "debunked" some of the accuser's claims, and should used the YouTube video as source until more reliable source can be used Dauzlee (talk) 12:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I also think similarly
- Even though we cannot write as "scam" or "scandal"
- We can use that video as a source for one of his "allegations"
- Let's see if we can get more sources
- Please check the above talk "Allegations on Mr Beast" Insane miner (talk) 12:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Absolutely, yes. Electricmaster (talk) 16:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we can use this yt video as a source for allegations against mrbeast any more than we can use the coffeezilla yt videos for allegations against techlead. (a similar thing I tried to do and had my edit reverted).
- I think what has to happen is a real news org has to interview this former employee and get these things on the record--and should reach out to mrbeast to respond. Once all that is done, it should be published and then we have a proper source. 192.147.66.4 (talk) 19:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- An impeccably reliable source is required, not a YouTube video from a disgruntled former employee. The policy is WP:BLP. Cullen328 (talk) 20:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- To be real specific, WP:BLPSPS bars us from using such a self-published video in a biographical article of a living person such as this one. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 18:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- An impeccably reliable source is required, not a YouTube video from a disgruntled former employee. The policy is WP:BLP. Cullen328 (talk) 20:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yesterday's AP article mentions this in a couple of paragraphs under the header "Giveaways questioned". AP has been one of the top RS here in WP, so it should be included now that its being reported on by various RS. 2601:19E:427E:5BB0:702B:4F7E:A5CD:E5F0 (talk) 21:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- AP could be trusted by editors like us
- But AP left us in dilemma
- Read entire article to get what I am trying to say
- AP didn't 100% confirm the source of former employee controversy
- They described it as some "allegations"
- Except that we can add Ava Kris controversy Insane miner (talk) 18:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Combined views + Ava controversy
- I think combined views and subscriber counts should be added in stats window. Thoughts?
- Not even sure where to start on the Ava grooming controversy, but the lack of info here is concerning. Can we please work on this? Cheers.
Electricmaster (talk) 16:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- 1. They already are
- 2. I do think that the current section should be expanded, but I don't think too much detail/info is warranted at this current point. Do you have any suggestions on what to add? Originalcola (talk) 17:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just add it smh like i mean theres lots of news articles. 86.29.220.255 (talk) 21:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- honestly, it shouldnt be on the mrbeast page. tyson needs their own page and this whole scandal may warrant its own separate page after thar NotQualified (talk) 18:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- granted, it can be mentioned to the extent donaldson was involved NotQualified (talk) 18:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- If there are enough reliable sources that can establish notability outside their work with MrBeast or controversies WP:BLP1E, I wouldn't be against making a page.
- As for what's in the article, I should stress that this is the article about MrBeast, not Ava. We should not go into full detail and be concise wherever possible. Spinixster (trout me!) 11:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- honestly, it shouldnt be on the mrbeast page. tyson needs their own page and this whole scandal may warrant its own separate page after thar NotQualified (talk) 18:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just add it smh like i mean theres lots of news articles. 86.29.220.255 (talk) 21:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Suggestion to Extend protect article temporarily
Extend protect the article due to controversy surrounding MrBeast and Ava Kris Tyson. There is also controversy around his legitimacy. A former employee has even come out to expose MrBeast. He was allegedly caught in a Discord server doing illegal activities. Due to the controversy, this will lead, I suspect a flood of editors that meet the requirement to edit semi-protected articles to try to edit the article. This leads to edit wars and potential vandalism. I suggest that "MrBeast" on Wikipedia be extended protected temporarily or when the controversy dies down. Robloxbob222222222 (talk) 03:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- There hasn’t really been any issues so far so this sagestion would go against WP:NO-PREEMPT so just wait. Legendarycool (talk) 05:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2024
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I would like to up the subscriber count for Mr Beast as it is higher now. Hudbud2011 (talk) 11:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talk • contribs) 21:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2024
Practically all RS have reported on this. Here's a selection:
AP - CNN - The Independent - Variety - The Hollywood Reporter - WP - People - ABC
At the very least, to preserve WP:NPOV, something like this should be included in the article: "MrBeast acknowledged Wednesday, July 31, 2024 that he used “inappropriate language” in his early days on the Internet, addressing a controversy surrounding allegations of past racist remarks.“When Jimmy was a teenager he acted like many kids and used inappropriate language while trying to be funny,” a spokesperson for the YouTuber said in a statement."
2601:19E:427E:5BB0:702B:4F7E:A5CD:E5F0 (talk) 21:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
No Controversy page?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5xf40KrK3I
https://metro.co.uk/2024/07/25/former-mrbeast-employee-claims-youtube-star-a-fraud-a-scam-21297426/
recent allegations regarding MrBeast's fraudelent actions on YouTube, such as illegal lotteries and scam giveaways -- I think there is reason enough to add a section about this, seems fair if we're gonna have the Ava Kris Tyson stuff here as well. 2A00:23C5:EDB1:1:10A8:26D0:2326:478E (talk) 12:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- good to point this out, however, Metro is not a reliable source per WP:METRO. Juwan (talk) 13:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- How about any of these?
- AP - CNN - The Independent - Variety - The Hollywood Reporter - WP - People - ABC
- They are all RS @JnpoJuwan.
- 2601:19E:427E:5BB0:154B:69FC:109D:28E0 (talk) 15:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding a 'controversy page' or section, I recommend seeing WP:CSECTION as to why articles and BLPs generally don't have "Controversy" or similar sections. In a more general sense, the article is free to edit as long as you have an account that is at least four days old and at least ten edits (see WP:SEMI). If you feel that any information is necessary to add, feel free to do so as long as it's reliably sourced to the relevant section(s). B3251(talk) 15:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @B3251 more recently (so recently that the news sources haven't seemed to gotten coverage), there has been criticisms about MrBeast, see the YouTube link above. I do not have much experience writing BLPs, so won't get to it without help, but a criticism section would surely be needed, under "Public image" to discuss this and other ongoing events such as the Kris Tyson boycott. Juwan (talk) 16:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm just an IP editor. Care to add a few sentences regarding past racist remarks Jimmy used? Lot's of RS reporting on it for the past few days. (see them linked above) 2601:19E:427E:5BB0:154B:69FC:109D:28E0 (talk) 16:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think just a sentence will suffice. Legendarycool (talk) 11:18, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding a 'controversy page' or section, I recommend seeing WP:CSECTION as to why articles and BLPs generally don't have "Controversy" or similar sections. In a more general sense, the article is free to edit as long as you have an account that is at least four days old and at least ten edits (see WP:SEMI). If you feel that any information is necessary to add, feel free to do so as long as it's reliably sourced to the relevant section(s). B3251(talk) 15:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- User @Schestos created 2024 MrBeast controversies, which is linked in the see also of the Public image and influence section of this article, if that's of interest. – 2804:F14:8084:CE01:7083:526C:4EE6:56E2 (talk) 08:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Update: The new article was set to be merged into the current article (not yet done) following a deletion discussion. – 2804:F1...D5:33ED (talk) 18:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Thinking of updating public image
Due to recent news from different media outlets and wiki trusted secondary sources including primary sources it is confirmed that there as been criticism on Jimmy Donaldson So I am thinking of updating public image part Since we require neutral stand point I request all editors to suggest what should we consider adding in this page Insane miner (talk) 18:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please add:
- -Fraudelent actions on YouTube, such as illegal lotteries and scam giveaways
- -Past racist remarks
- Jimmy Donaldson has addressed the second one and apologized for his many, many previous use of racist language. He has not directly addressed the first one but his lawyers did.
- Plenty of RS on both posted on this very same talk page. It keeps being conveniently ignored for some reason.
- 2601:19E:427E:5BB0:F824:2595:60B9:A419 (talk) 19:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done some changes
- I think someone else modified my edit Insane miner (talk) 16:26, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Create a section called controveries
There is a lot sources talking about the current drama, so should we create one? WP:RS I found that is usable.
There is a lot actually Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 04:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Alternatively, I don't know where to put the other controversies other than the beast games one. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 04:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- controversies should be include in public image section according to WP: CSECTION so don't add a new section Insane miner (talk) 04:48, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for letting me know. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 04:52, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- controversies should be include in public image section according to WP: CSECTION so don't add a new section Insane miner (talk) 04:48, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Should there be an article for Mrbeast (the person) and a separate one for the corporation BEAST HOLDINGS, LLC/ the channel and companies.
Should there be a separate page for the company BEAST HOLDINGS, LLC. and the person (Jimmy Donaldson) Mrbeast, as the current article has to both talk about an individual as well as a corporate entity and YouTube channel? Legendarycool (talk) 06:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- No, i do not think that two seperate articles are needed. Gilliebillie🤡 (talk) 08:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Controversy
Why is nothing mentioned about the recent accusations of Ava Kris Tyson? Gilliebillie🤡 (talk) 20:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
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Correct the table in the "Awards and Nominations" section. The 2022 awards have the Year and Ceremony section swapped/shifted. For the 2022 + 12th Streamy Awards, the Year and Ceremony column values need to be swapped. For the 2022 + 2022 Kids' Choice Awards, the columns need to be shifted to the left. Goosler13 (talk) 01:09, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Goosler13, Thank you for telling this. I changed it. Gilliebillie🤡 (talk) 07:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
ava chris tyson's controversy exposed some of the shady stuff mrbeast did
look it up on twiter, p'm going to sleep 217.24.171.179 (talk) 19:13, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
"Donaldson is one of the most well-liked YouTubers on the platform" is no longer true
"Donaldson is one of the most well-liked YouTubers on the platform"
Public consensus has turned very sour towards him, even more so with the new video from DogPack 404 released today. 199.107.198.251 (talk) 08:35, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately he still has 300M+ subscribers. And until something big happens, the big PR control he has is not going to disappear. ItzSwirlz (talk) 15:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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