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Old discussions

The previous discussions on the content of this article can be found in the archives of Talk:Lojban. --Mednak 11:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Guide

Style: Lojban texts & English translations

In the Lojban comunity it is common for Lojbanists to bracket Lojban words or phrases like e.g. {coi do ma nuzba}; on this article, the editors (including myself) seem to agree on using italic form instead of brackets, so like e.g. coi do ma nuzba. The English translations, on the other hand, normally have double quotation marks, e.g. "Hi, what's up?". Translations, however, may be without such markings when it is obvious (see the example below). These styles are in accordance with the convention of other language articles.

For the sample texts I have experimented to use colour codes which slightly differentiates the sample's visual appearance from the main paragraph:

mi ba'o klama le zarci
I have-gone-to the-market.

mi capu'o klama le zarci
I am-going-to the-market.

The bolds simply indicate the parts on which the discussion is focusing (this example is from the section "tenses"). This, I hope, would give rise to readability. The colour code is #506060.

Phonology and orthography

I'm no linguist and are therefore not accostumed with linguistic vocabulary. Thus I ask. Is phonology and orthography really a part of the grammar? --Emuzesto 16:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 == Old discussions ==
 The previous discussions on the content of this article can be found in the archives of [[Talk:Lojban]]. --[[User:Mednak|Mednak]] 11:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
+== Guide ==
+===General reference on editing===
+[[Wikipedia:Article development|Article development]]<br>
+[[Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles|Writing better articles]]<br>
+[[Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words|Avoid weasel words]]<br>
+[[Wikipedia:Explain jargon|Explain jargon]]<br>
+[[Wikipedia:Guide to layout|Layout]]<br>
+[[Wikipedia:Footnotes|Footnotes]]<br>
+[[Wikipedia:Citing sources|Citing sources]]<br>
+[[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting)|Text formatting]]<br>
+[[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings)|Headings]]<br>
+===Specific reference on Lojban grammar===
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=195&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Phonology & Orthography (CLL3)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=194&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Morphology (CLL4)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=181&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Orthography: letteral system, alien alphabets, accent/punctuation marks, compound lerfu words, acronyms, computerized character codes (CLL17)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=193&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax and semantics: selbri (CLL5)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=192&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: sumti, descriptions, individuals, masses, sets, vocative phrases, names (CLL6)]<br>
+[http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/comp.html Syntax: sumti and selbri]<br>
+[http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/complex.html Syntax: complex sumti]<br>
+[http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/attach.html Syntax: attachments to sumti, selbri and sentences]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=191&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: pro-sumti, pro-bridi (CLL7)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=190&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: relative clauses/phrases, possessive sumti (CLL8)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=189&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: tagging places, conversion, sentence connection, modal selbri, modal relative phrases, modal negation (CLL9)]<br>
+[http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/diagsumm.html#sent Syntax: sentence structures]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=184&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: logical/non-logical connectives (CLL14)]<br>
+[http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/logcon.html Syntax: logical connectives]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=187&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: abstraction (events, qualities, quantities, truth-value, sentence...), indirect question, sumti raising (CLL11)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=183&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: negation (CLL15)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=182&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: existential claims, prenexes, variables, universal claims, restricted claims, negation boundaries, selbri variables (CLL16)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=180&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: mathematical expressions (CLL18)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=179&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Syntax: structure of texts (CLL19)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=188&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Semantics: tenses (CLL10)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=186&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Semantics: lujvo/tanru/gismu place structures, comparatives & superlatives (CLL12)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=185&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Semantics: emotion and attitudinal indicators (CLL13)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=177&page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar Formal grammars (CLL21)]
+[http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/lingissues.html Linguistic issues pertaining to Lojban]<br>
+=== Other useful references ===
+[http://jbovlaste.lojban.org Vocabularly (jbovlaste)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu.txt Vocabularly (gismu)]<br>
+[http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/cmavo.txt Vocabularly (cmavo)]<br>
+[[Compound (linguistics)]]<br>
+[[Semantics]]<br>
+[[Syntax]]<br>
+[[Formal grammar]]<br>
+=== Style: Lojban texts & English translations ===
+In the Lojban comunity it is common for Lojbanists to bracket Lojban words or phrases like e.g. {coi do ma nuzba}; on this article, the editors (including myself) seem to agree on using italic form instead of brackets, so like e.g. ''coi do ma nuzba''. The English translations, on the other hand, normally have double quotation marks, e.g. "Hi, what's up?". Translations, however, may be without such markings when it is obvious (see the example below). These styles are in accordance with the convention of other language articles.
+For the sample texts I have experimented to use colour codes which slightly differentiates the sample's visual appearance from the main paragraph:
+<span style="color:#506060">
+:''mi '''ba'o''' klama le zarci''<br>I '''have-gone'''-to the-market.
+:''mi '''capu'o''' klama le zarci''<br>I '''am-going'''-to the-market.
+</span>
+The bolds simply indicate the parts on which the discussion is focusing (this example is from the section "tenses"). This, I hope, would give rise to readability. The colour code is #506060.
 == Phonology and orthography ==