Talk:Nintendo DS

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Camera Peripheral

Shouldn't the Accessories section mention the newly announced DS camera device? It's been on IGN for a little while now.

Erik 17:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Well the problem is that we have very little information on the camera at present, beyond the fact it is going to be used for "Face Training" in Japan. Once it is released and some technical information can be gleaned from it (resolution, frames per second, dimensions, etc, etc), then we can put together a section that actually does the device justice. Jumping the gun and putting in a section that basically says, "There is a camera for the DS, and one game that is not released yet is said to somehow use it." does not really help anyone from an informational standpoint. MS3FGX 11:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Missing specifications

I see some general archetecture details and graphics specs. I note that it lacks any details on the sound engine & think it should be added if its available.RCHM 06:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Sixth or Seventh Generation?

This page says the Nintendo DS is of the sixth generation, while other pages say it is the beginning of the seventh generation for handheld systems. Can someone please clarify? DarthMichigan 21:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Pricing history

Is there a point to this section? Was there anything unfair or otherwise notable about pricing differences in different countries? Why no listing of MSRP vs. "street" pricing? I see mention of price drops in Talk, but not in the article in this section. --Lexein 00:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Original Nintendo DS

It's an original Nintendo DS in the picture ok?, stop changing it back to just Nintendo DS, this describes the picture better.....end of discussion —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.129.39.248 (talk • contribs).

This article is about Nintendo DS, therefore it is obvious. Changing it back and telling people "end of discussion" may help in other contexts, but not here. -- ReyBrujo 12:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

It's to help idiots see the difference, btw I don't see the Nintendo DS Lite page saying just Nintendo DS. I really don't see the problem with "An Original Silver Nintendo DS", It describes the picture better. It's not just a heading it's a picture description, and "Nintendo DS" just dosen't cut it in my books. --203.129.39.248 07:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Huh?

No. The DS Lite articles doesn't just say, "Nintendo DS". It says "Nintendo DS Lite". Note that it doesn't say, "New Nintendo DS", or any other such nonsense. It's simple. There are two products: Nintendo DS, and Nintendo DS Lite. Adding, "An Original Silver" in front isn't going to help anybody, let alone "idiots". What's more, though articles should be accessible, they shouldn't be written specifically for "idiots" anyways.

Let me ask you this: With the current phrasing of "Nintendo DS", are you confused? Could you honestly see any rational person being confused, simply because it's labelled in the most precisely accurate way possible? If you aren't confused, and you can't see a rational person of normal intelligence being confused, then there's nothing to discuss. If you are confused, then I can't help you. If you think someone else would be confused by something as simple as referring to a product by its proper name, then I'd like you to explain how adding those extra words could possibly help them in the slightest. In the meantime, you don't have consensus, so please refrain from making the change again. Bladestorm 15:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

why don't we just put a picture of the new ds up as the main one. having the old one, that isn't even made anymore, as the first picture people see when they come here is pretty dumb... 86.135.164.200 15:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

The reason for keeping the picture of the old Nintendo DS is because there is a separate article for the Nintendo DS Lite.--kenobi.zero 16:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Changing the image of the DS in this article to a DS Lite, would be similar to changing the image of the original GBA at the Game Boy Advance article to a Game Boy Advance Micro image, which wouldn't make any sense. --Silver Edge 23:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Strange Trivia

Why is it trivia that the DS has an alarm clock feature? I don't think it's trivia, but maybe I'm wrong. rct2guy 01:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

About the name

Maybe it could be interresting to say about the name that "DS" is pronounced "goddess" (déesse) in french (and that "WII" sounds like "yes" (oui) in french)

Input and Output

Whoever mentioned Bionicle Heroes DS gets a cookie. --Rabin 17:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Typo

I fixed a typo. I changed "# January 5, 2006 - Nintendo issued a formal apology after the Nintendo DS sold out throughout Japan,[30] as no Nintendo system had ever sold out in Japan before.[31]" to "# "January 5, 2006 - Nintendo issued a formal apology after the Nintendo DS sold out throughout Japan,[30] as no Nintendo system had ever sold out in Japan before.[31]"# "Ever" has been changed to "never."

WiFi

Does the DS require an attachment for WiFi? 67.188.172.165 23:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

No, you just need an access point generated by a wifi router or the little Nintendo dongle. The console, as stated in the article, can handle wifi by itself. -- ReyBrujo 01:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Specifics on polygons

Can the polygon count be changed from 2048 to a better estimate of 4094 since the DS is limited by 6144 vertices and a better equation would be ((v)/3-1)*2 since each additional poly can only take up 1 extra vertex? 68.167.66.215 19:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

REMOVE note about homebrew and commercial games?

This is why large console manufacturers don't endorse homebrew: it opens the door to pirating of commercial games. So why mention it (and put some emphasis on it) in the main Nintendo DS article on Wikipedia? I wouldn't mind keeping it in the Nintendo DS Homebrew article, though. --Coolbho3000 01:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

While although endorsement of homebrew isn't really relevant (we don't, and shouldn't, cater to the desires of companies), I still don't think it really fits here. Especially the euphamisms that people use to pretend they aren't pirating.

"...can run the vast majority of homebrew applications, as well as backups of commercial titles (with very few errors)."???

Oh please. These "backups" are pirated games. There's no justification for using a euphamism. And "with very few errors"? Says who?

What's more, the section doesn't make any attempt to establish that even a remotely significant portion of the 40+ million DS's (and lites) run 'homebrew' or 'backup' software at all. That means the content is relevant to Nintendo DS homebrew, but there's no proof it's at all relevant to the DS itself. (That is, the DS is obviously relevant to DS homebrew, but not vice versa) Bladestorm 14:31, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

DS Download and WPA

The list of DS download stations either needs to be deleted or updated, I have now used them at Best Buy and according to IGN a few months ago they are now being placed in some airport terminals as well. Also I think something needs to be said about it not being WPA compatible, this is stated in the WiFi Connection page but it really belongs on this page as well. Sir hugo 13:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I think updating the DS download stations is a good idea.

As far as the WPA thing is concerned, I'm not sure that's as appropriate. It certainly is relevant to the DS itself, however... Saying what a system can't do borders slightly on OR. More specifically, if there isn't a source to assert that a lacking feature should be there, but isn't, then saying it isn't there, at the very least, seems like something you'd want to avoid. That said, I don't think it'd be very hard for you to find some good reliable, verifiable sources of people criticizing the lack of WPA encryption. So, my advice is to actually find those sources first, and then worry about how to work it into the article. Bladestorm 14:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I would have to agree. You could list thousands of features that the DS, or any other device, does not have; but what would be the point of that? Granted it could be considered a criticism of the hardware, but honestly, so few people even take the time to properly configure their WiFi networks that I would say 80% - 90% of DS owners are not even aware that it lacks WPA support (or even know what WPA is, for that matter). Still, that would be the best angle to take for inclusion. MS3FGX 13:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Pictochat

The range seriously can go to 300 ft. can it? I know this is a lie because I have one and it can go maybe 15 feet.

The range depends on a number of factors; antenna orientation, background interference, physical obstacles, etc, etc. 300 is certainly on the high side of the spectrum and should not be considered an average, but then 15 feet is only a fraction of the range you should be getting as well. If your range is that short, I would suspect one of the DS's may be damaged (I.E. the antenna lead has been pinched inside of the case).MS3FGX 05:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

It's says 30 feet in the manual.

Startup tone

I don't know if this has been discussed or noticed before, but I just found out that the chime that plays when the system is turned on is different when you turn the DS on during the day of the user's birthday. Granted the user has inputed his/her birthday. I don't suppose this would be of any importance, would it? -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 05:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

This is a fairly well known easter egg in the DS firmware. In addition, if you go into PictoChat on your birthday, a birthday message will be broadcast to all people in the channel as well as a sound (there may even be a small image of a cake, if I am recalling correctly). Some games also contain special messages based on the date, such as "Feel the Magic" (it has messages for your birthday, Christmas, and New Years, at the very least). As for it being added to the page, it is a nice bit of trivia certainly, but I don't know if it is really worthy to be added on it's own. Perhaps if there were a few more easter eggs in the firmware they could all be listed, but that is the only one as far as I remember. MS3FGX 12:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Colors

Is there a list of colors that the DS comes in on the page??? Supra Skateboards 18:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

DS colors can be found in the Marketing and sales section. --Silver Edge 05:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Repeat

"Games use a proprietary solid state ROM "Game Card" format resembling the memory cards used in other portable electronic devices such as digital cameras. It currently supports cards up to 2 gigabit[17] in size. The cards always have a small amount of flash memory or an EEPROM to save user data, for example progress in a game or high scores. The game cards are 33.0 × 35.0 × 3.8 mm, and weigh around 3.5 g (1/8 ounces)."

This is mentioned twice in this article. how come nobody changed it? fixing it. 172.132.6.74 14:47, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

PS. sorry for above, forgot to add subject name.

card specs are mentioned twice two. fixing that too.172.132.6.74 14:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Now It looks better> 172.131.141.6 13:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

gap

There is a huge Trivia gap. someone fix please. 172.132.6.74 14:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Table of Sales

Does that table include the sales for the DS and DS Lite combined or just sales of the original DS? I think that might need to be made clear on the article Admuz 18:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)