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== Vtwm ==

Hiya,
I was suprised to find that wikipedia doesn't have a page for Vtwm, (I've just downloaded it and made some changes, and was telling someone about it and said 'wp it'.. and they said, it's got nothing!) so I started to edit one, but then found it had been deleted.
I'm not sure that this is the same vtwm that I'm dealing with though. I'm talking about the 'virtual tabbed window manager' which was an offshoot of [[twm]].
What was wrong with the article, and how can I avoid making the same mistakes?
Also, how do I find out what was in the article, as researching vtwm is proving difficult, I can't even find out who originally 'forked ' the project from Tom LaStrange's twm, even if the article was lacking, it may have some information that I can add to the vtwm page.
This is going to give me some difficulty with references, as most of them are in the source!! Hmm.. I'll probably just reference the vtwm.tar.gz download .

I'm going to create the page, and would welcome you having a look at it and tell me if it's okay. I'm still relatively new to wp, (I've been putting stuff up for two years or so, but only intermittently, and still don't know how all the tags work and stuff).

regards
Colum <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Metacosm|Metacosm]] ([[User talk:Metacosm|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Metacosm|contribs]]) 11:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The original version was very little but advertising, which was why it was deleted. There's really nothing from that version you could use, and the only reference was vtwm's own website. Your version looks better (it won't be speedy deleted, at least) but you'll still need to establish notability under [[WP:PRODUCT|this guideline]] or it might be nominated for a deletion discussion. The fact that it's difficult to find [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] (i.e. not just the company's own statements) ''might'' mean the information is better suited to being a subsection in the [[twm]] article. Or the program itself might be sufficient. That would be up to the community to decide, if it ever goes to [[WP:AFD|AfD]], but for now it looks like you're off to a much better start than the last guy. Hope this helps! [[User:Kafziel|Kafziel]] <sup>[[User talk:Kafziel|Talk]]</sup> 19:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, I must say, this notablity stuff is weird. It basically seems that a thing doesn't exist until people have written about it! I think if this is applied seriously, a lot of wikipedia would disappear! I guess it's there to prevent people writting articles about their dog, although, if they can get a few friends to write articles about their dog elsewhere, then their dog is notable!
I've found some pages that I'll add to the link list, and that should count as notibility with a bit of luck!

Thanks
Colum <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Metacosm|Metacosm]] ([[User talk:Metacosm|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Metacosm|contribs]]) 15:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== I love it! ==

I just saw that "permanent vacation" template and I have to tell you: It '''ROCKS!''' That should be standard issue for each and avery administrator. Vandals don't take this site seriously and they deserve a good kick in the backside before being shown the door. Bravo! --[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 00:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AScrub_it_hard_to_remove_that_layer&diff=183528027&oldid=183527854 This] is the best I have seen in the war on vandal activity. I know that there are some users who don't like to confront vandals at all, or who would say... "don't offend them". Heck, their vandalism offends me, and it offends the others who are building this project. Some don't even warn even after obvious multiple vandalisms! (damn cowards) You rock this place dude! As an admin, you have my respect indeed. [[User:Junglecat|<font color="green">JungleCat</font>]] <small>[[User talk:Junglecat|<font color="blue">Shiny!</font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Junglecat|<font color="blue">Oohhh!</font>]]</small> 04:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Regarding the "voting is evil" on your userpage ==

...so much for "per nom" with the new rollback poll. :-p<br />
But I guess it was kind of necessary since they fought over it before when discussing. -- [[User:Mentifisto|<font color="#800080" face="courier new">Menti</font>]][[User talk:Mentifisto|<font color="#000000" face="courier new">fisto</font>]] 06:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:The whole situation seems really strange to me, because the majority of opposition is coming from regular editors who could use the tool, and the majority of support is coming from administrators, who have nothing to lose either way. I keep my buttons no matter what. But you're right, I'm not surprised - there was controversy during the original discussion, and some folks just love to keep those fires burning. [[User:Kafziel|Kafziel]] <sup>[[User talk:Kafziel|Talk]]</sup> 08:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC).

== Rollback removal ==

Thank you! (I wonder if I'm the first...) --[[User:Barneca|barneca]] ([[User talk:Barneca|talk]]) 18:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

==Fair use rationale for [[:Image:Fudgie.jpg]]==
==Fair use rationale for [[:Image:Fudgie.jpg]]==
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Bummer. That was uploaded a long time ago, back before the whole "fair use" shake-up, so it should probably be deleted. Now I live in California; the closest Carvel is 20 miles away, and I'm not going that far to take a picture of an ice cream cake. Goodbye, Fudgie. Kafziel Ask me for rollback 03:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]