User talk:Oakley77

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	For addressing the comments on the GA review of Antigua and Barbuda at the 2008 Summer Olympics, even though you weren't asked to help. Thank you. :) Starstriker7(Talk) 05:12, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

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Corsica and Brittany

Can you please refrain from adding Brittany and Corsica in the football squad template for player nationality as you did here and here. I have reverted you because Corsican and Breton are ethnic groups and not nationalities. — JS^{Rant Away} 05:25, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Xabi Alonso's Nationality

Hi. I changed Alonso's little nationality flag back to Spain because according to FIFA, the highest football authority, lists him as Spanish. Official nationalities are determined by what FIFA-sanctioned national team one plays for. I'm sure Basque is a nationality, but it's not really recognized by FIFA. (And I guess if you've never played for a full national team, you go by your affiliation at the youth level. If your not a youth team member, then you probably go by the country you're from politically.) If you look at the roster for Athletic Bilbao, all the players are listed as Spanish, even though they're also technically Basque. Except for, interestingly, Fernando Amorebieta, who now plays for the Venezuelan national team. He was born in Venezuela, and part of his family comes from there. He's still home-grown in Basque Country, though, so Athletic will still keep him.

You could argue that Alonso be considered Basque because of his appearances for the Basque team, but the team isn't officially sanctioned by FIFA or UEFA. It's allowed to play in friendly matches, but it can take part in official competitions like the World Cup or the Euros. The Catalan national team is in the same boat; that's why Xavi & Co. over at FC Barcelona (as well as Bojan Krkic and Joan Capdevila) have Spanish flags next to their names instead of Catalan ones. So Xabi may be Basque, but in FIFA's eyes, he's a World-Cup-winning Spaniard.

Hope that clears everything up.

Cheers, Otaku-jin (talk) 05:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

I changed it back too and if you insist on going against WP:MOSFLAG and push a Basque separatist agenda you will find your account blocked. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

December 2011

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North Korea national football team

North Korea national football team is not what I would call ready. The player list is way too long. I'd only have the current squad. The current squad also needs some sources. The text is very, very limited and isn't fully supported by sources. The World Cup part of their history isn't organised logically. I would actually ding the assessment down to a C, because the article is NOT fully sources and it feels really incomplete. The article only has 15 sources. For a team that has as many world cup appearances as they do, I would be expecting AT LEAST 50 sources. I'd also be expecting the See also section to be gone as the article should be so complete, these are not necessary. --LauraHale (talk) 21:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

having a quick look on my iPhone, none of the B class men articles are at solace where I would be comfortable nominating them without extensive work. Brazil requires a lot of work, much editorial plus other work. Australia has a tag that says problems since 2010. India needs a fair amount of sourcing. India and Australia could both be assessed C easily. If a men's team was easily reachable, some nationalistic fan of the country would have done it already. --LauraHale (talk) 23:05, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Potential GA candidates

Rschen7754 thinks if you work with me, this might be one way to eventually get your GA participation restrictions lifted. I'm willing to nominally serve as a mentor to help you get back by making sure you understand what is GA ready... but I edit primarily in Australian sport, women's sport and Paralympic sport. That said, I have about 9 articles that are Good Articles. I would like to take the remaining six articles to GA to have a good topic. These articles are:

• Jane Moran
• Gemma Beadsworth
• Melissa Rippon
• Sophie Smith
• Kate Gynther
• Greg McFadden

These articles are pretty close to being ready to nominate as the articles are mostly complete. I've just been distracted by getting other Australian Olympians to DYK and GA nominations for women's football teams. The following needs to be done:

Jane Moran

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA source.
  • Added and sourced some useful nuggets of information. Oakley77 (talk) 16:27, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts. AOC Source
  • Added some info here as well. Oakley77 (talk) 14:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
• Where was Moran playing club water polo in 2009 and 2010? Information needs to be included in the article.
  • Info found and placed. Oakley77 (talk) 02:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
  • I believe it has been. Oakley77 (talk) 02:42, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
  • All look fine here. Oakley77 (talk) 02:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.
  • After reading the article, the flow seems to suffice. Oakley77 (talk) 16:56, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking at http://www.australianwaterpolo.com.au/high-performance/senior-women-profiles/profiles/moran-jane/ , and the club water polo stuff is very much in this article. There is no indication she took time off:
1st, NWPL Championship with Brisbane Barracudas 2009, 2010, 2011

Pretty much EVERYTHING on Australian Water Polo's page needs to be included in the article. The article doesn't say what position she plays in it. That is like writing a football article without mentioning what position a person plays (forward, fullback, goalie). Australian Water Polo's page needs to be used a lot more in the article to fill in the details as a GA needs to be fully sourced and complete information wise. --LauraHale (talk) 21:43, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Gemma Beadsworth

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA Source
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts. AOC Source
• Club water polo: 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2012 were years she played. Where was she in 2009 and 2011? Source needed and information needs to be put into the article.
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.

Melissa Rippon

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA Source
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts. AOC Source
• Club play is a bit of a blank slate. Who did she play for? When? What did she accomplish? NWPL may have additional sources.
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.

Sophie Smith

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA Source
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts. AOC Source.
• Club play is a bit of a blank slate. What happened between 2008 and 2012? Previous sources may answer. NWPL may have additional sources.
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.

Kate Gynther

• Water Polo Australia information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Water Polo Australia. Water Polo Australia source needs to be used to support existing facts. WPA Source.
• Australian Olympic Committee information needs to be included: Supporting facts need to be added to the article and cited to Australian Olympic Committee. Australian Olympic Committee source needs to be used to support existing facts.
• Duplicate citation needs to be fixed: "Four named in national squad". The Courier-Mail. Retrieved 21 February 2012.
• Lead needs to be written in a better summary style.
• Red links need to be checked for each article: Find correct links if they exist or selectively remove some of them if they appear redundant.
• Flow of the article needs to be checked. I write point. point. point. point. This can be choppy.

I would estimate each of these articles would require an hour to three hours worth of work each to address those points. If you can get these things done, I will nominate these articles for GA, and I will allow you to fix changes any reviewer requests, then comment on the GA itself to say this was done, so you do not violate the conditions of your community band. You can then claim that you did substantial work on these articles (and helped take a topic to Good Topic.). These articles are important to me because I suspect the Australian media will plagiarise them if the team does what is expected and medals at the Games. At the same time, I know the girls on the team have seen these articles and are very happy with them having been created/massively improved. We got permission for the head shots. --LauraHale (talk) 02:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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Featured Picture

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Animals in media

WikiProject Animals in media has been created! Since you expressed support in joining, you may sign up here. Don't forget the userbox! Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 16:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

In Response...

In response to your questions...

1. The code is in the "templates" section. 2. I really need help tagging the insane amount of articles that fall into this category, and I'm also having trouble with Category:WikiProject Animals in media. I tagged the template, so in theory everything should be there, but it isn't.

If you would rather discussion be kept to one page, just say which one, yours or mine. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 16:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

We can keep it on mine. Also is the tagging template there, because I can do that, just need the tat template mate. Oakley77 (talk) 16:33, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

The template is here, and the category I'm talking about is below. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 16:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I accidentally added your talk page to the project. Just paste this in: [[Category:WikiProject Animals in media]]. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 16:39, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I assessed roughly 35 articles. Where is the assessment box? Oakley77 (talk) 18:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea how to make one. Do you? Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 18:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, no! But you should ask an expert, and I will try to learn, because it is virtually necessary. Oakley77 (talk) 18:07, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Maybe there's a page... I'll get on it, but I think I have to get off the computer soon. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 18:11, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

No worries mate! Oakley77 (talk) 18:12, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I found a page that tells you how to do it. It says the bot does its run every few days, and all we have to do is set up for it. I can do that now. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 18:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Need any help? Can you do it solo? Oakley77 (talk) 18:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I set it all up, but I'm having a problem with the importance. It doesn't recognize it as "High-importance Animals in media articles", but rather with a lowercase "a" in "animals". Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 18:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, may be a glitch. Is the box on the project somewhere? Oakley77 (talk) 18:29, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I could check, but I have to go. You should look; I'm probably not going to be on again until tomorrow. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 18:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Got it. Oakley77 (talk) 18:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Getting the Stats

I found out how to get the stats immediately for Animals in media. Just go here and select "Animals in media". I'm afraid to let anything run on my computer, though. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 21:14, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, the bot did its run today and the stats are on the page! Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 21:17, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Read this

Ok, now. I've choosen to start a pilot project before the real one(like the teahouse WikiProject). You'll be the Project Coordinator. The Pilot lasts for 25.1 weeks(Ends on 30 April 2013) and I have a to-do list here User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/WikiProject Puntland Transittional Pilot Project Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:10, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

More Animals in media things...

Sorry if you're getting tired of this, I just have a little task for you to do. Can you grade Doglands for me? I'm terrible at grading my own articles, and no other groups seem to have seen it, even though I tagged it for them. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 15:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Article Declined: Gaylord Discovery Center

That is the first Article I have contributed. I tried to pay attention to Notability and Neutrality. It has now been declined for both. I used existing Articles as examples of what to include. My interpretation is that the Article Gaylord Discovery Center is on par with the examples of Impression 5 Science Center, Ann Arbor Hands-On Museum, and Flint Children's Museum. Do you have recommendations on what to change to make the proposed article more fit for acceptance?

ThanksMehkael (talk) 23:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC) Just add some better formatting, and I will pass it!. Oakley77 (talk) 00:30, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

GAN stuff

Hi. I've got some stress things going on, and the bits I saw on Jane Moran didn't particularly impress me. I haven't seen any other edits to water polo articles. I haven't seen a demonstration that you understand sourcing or organisation. I've got some other things going on with Wikipedia and my willingness was pretty narrowly confined to and based on the water polo work with the idea of you can work on them with VERY CLEAR guidelines of what needs work. This wasn't really ever done that I could see. If you want to work on other articles with the idea of being able to work on them for GAN, you'll need to find some one else to help you with that. The outside work I've seen hasn't indicated any growing awareness of criteria that I'd be willing to give easy passes. The introduction of copyvios into Wikipedia through AFC that were obvious also makes me hesitant to work with you outside areas where I can pretty much know if your own submissions are copyvios or not. Oakley77 (talk) 22:56, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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Kristóf Nyíri article advice

Hi Oakley77,

I was hoping you could help me out with an article you reviewed. This is my first attempt at a wiki publication, and I might need some help and direction. You wrote that my article on Kristóf Nyíri "Just need better format and structure," I tried to copy other academic wikipedia profile pages... what other format would you suggest?

Also, I received comments from others: that Kristóf Nyíri might not be notable (or adequately cited as such). I included other authors/ academics that reference him and his work - one of which has her own wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cressida_Heyes). I'm not sure what else I can add... do you have any suggestions?

Many thanks, Lora — Preceding unsigned comment added by LAinNJ (talk • contribs) 15:06, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

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Arctic Anthropology

Hello Oakley77,

I was just wondering what your reason was for accepting (in AfC) the article Arctic Anthropology. Its references clearly don't constitute significant, independent coverage, as is required by the AfC reviewer guidelines.

Thanks, Gold Standard 23:16, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Possible request for comment

Hello Oakley77. Given your repeated problems discussed at GAN and mentioned by me earlier on your talk page about sourcing at WP:AfC with issues of plagiarism checking, I'm really concerned that you're still working in the area and that others are continuing to point out these problems. Can you please demonstrate, through your own editing, knowledge of copyright and sourcing policies alongside notability policies on Wikipedia before continuing with WP:AfC? --LauraHale (talk) 23:35, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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Read this

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Content review topic ban

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• "Topic banned from ITN" doesn't mean "carry on and hope nobody notices". Can you please stop disrupting? 188.28.250.128 (talk) 22:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  • You have been blocked for a period of 48 hours for the above violation. Please note that blocks will continue increasing in length for subsequent violations. --Rschen7754 22:49, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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Chongqing et al.

I've completed the primary temporary task that I have assigned myself, which I began in mid-April (correcting thousands of links isn't small work). So that leaves me with the major copy-edit of Chongqing, which will take at least 30 minutes–1 hour to do decently, and, as I can't stay up late tonight, it will be done later today (and before 27 July, as promised).
Also, I have cleaned up after a few of the Tibetan town/village articles you created back in May. The Chinese for some of your creations was obvious (such as Shangzayü), but without Chinese (Tibetan makes no sense to me), county-level units, or coordinates accurate to at least the nearest arc-minute, most of them have eluded my identifying them. GotR ^Talk 04:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

• Great, thanks alot. I am on vacation till Sunday, but as soon as I come back, I will help with anything you need, including the peer review. Oakley77 (talk) 17:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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Sockpuppetry case

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Indefinitely blocked

From Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Oakley77, it is clear that you are editing while logged-out in order to evade your ban from the Good Article process. Given that you were blocked earlier this month for violating this ban, and that you have already required the community to spend time in crafting a custom sanction (as an alternative to simply banning you outright), I have blocked you indefinitely until we can rely on your compliance with your sanctions and with our sock-puppetry policy. You may appeal this block using the instructions here. AGK [•] 00:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I was foolish, and selfish, I know. I did what I did because, as I stated before, I am passionate about the GA process, and all of Wikipedia. This background beside, it was an astoundingly stupid thing to do, to be frank. I know, with the correcting benefit of hindsight, that those kind of actions are not acceptable and are not to be repeated in any shape or form. I also want you to know that, unlike some "sock-puppeteers", I created a second, unauthorized account not to vandalize or hamper Wikipedia, but to make its articles better. I am an editor who is thoroughly dedicated to growing Wikipedia positively, and would never, ever think of vandalizing it. The only mistakes I have every made since I "signed on" have been in an effort to expand Wikipedia in a constructive way.I apologize entirely for any damage I have perpetrated, if any, and I also apologize for any editor's time I have wasted. Hoping to be reinstated, and hopijg for forgiveness, Oakley77 (talk) 17:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Competence really does seem to be the issue here. I believe that you genuinely want to improve Wikipedia, and that you genuinely don't intend any harm. Unfortunately, I'm also persuaded that as much as you might intend good, you can't keep yourself from continuing on with actions that you've been told are disruptive. You need some time away from Wikipedia, completely, to break the cycle and refocus. My recommendation would be that you take AGK's suggestion that you appeal your block in a few months' time to Arbcom. Hopefully then you will be able to make a persuasive case for how you plan to keep this sort of disruption from happening again. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 01:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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You said that you would comply with the ban beforehand, and you clearly went around it, multiple times. Why should we believe you this time? --Rschen7754 22:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, here is my take on it. Many editors will back me up when I say I have a well-appreciated constructive mindset when I edit or attempt to. Most of them just believe that I don't have the right methodology or understanding, per se, to be 100% positively constructive. As I go, I gain more understanding and adopt the proper protocol. I have imbued these methods into my editing, and get to know them when I make a mistake or blunder, however significant it is. This, I admit, is one of my biggest and worse "offences". This aside, due to my track record, I implore you to see the passion for Wikipedia I have, and please instill the trust in me to abide by every proper modus operandi Wikipedia has. My constructive edits make me refreshingly different from most every other blocked account, and wish to continue making them if you just give the chance, albeit my second. Thank you for helping edit again, Oakley77 (talk) 00:14, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Given your apparent good faith efforts to improve Wikipedia, rather than seeking indefinite blocks earlier, a topic ban was enacted to give you time to learn how to edit and how to improve Wikipedia. You were not prohibited from improving articles: you were blocked from certain processes. Rather than seeking to improve Wikipedia inside the context of your topic ban, you went around it in ways that were not helpful. You were blocked short term for doing this once, and didn't get the message: improve Wikipedia and avoid assessment processes. Not sure I see a demonstration that you want to improve Wikipedia and avoid assessment processes. --LauraHale (talk) 00:33, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Oakley77, this would be your fourth chance. Your disregard of the bans got you blocked twice, and your sockpuppetry around the bans got you an indefinite block. Your last edit before the investigation and ban was, "I will help with anything you need, including the peer review" (emphasis added) while you still had three months to go on the "no reviews anywhere" ban (talk page notice). Your socking to nominate articles for GA status shows the same problems that got you banned from GAN 3 months before. You have not shown any ability to "gain more understanding and adopt the proper protocol."

I suggest you read the standard offer and take in the first item: "Wait six months without sockpuppetry." I believe you need that time to understand the rules and policies (the "protocol"). 71.234.215.133 (talk) 00:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

• Note to reviewing admin - Not reviewing this one as I've already blocked this user twice, but I endorse the indefinite block until we have something more concrete. WP:AGF is not a suicide pact, and also there are clear WP:COMPETENCE issues. The user has had at least a month to show improvement and has been given mentorship, and has not improved. --Rschen7754 00:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Just wanted to also comment that at least one of the articles nominates for GA Oakley77 was SPECIFICALLY told was not ready for GAN. It is still not ready. Specifically nominating an article he was told he was not ready and going around a block to do that is disruptive to GAN. --LauraHale (talk) 00:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Let me please clarify that yes, in hindsight, my recent actions at GAN were slightly disruptive. At the time of perpetration, I was believing to be doing something constructive, by giving articles a distinction they deserve, as well as the editors. I apologize to any editor I disrupted, and to disrupting the entire process, but it was all done in a mindset of good faith. I am sorry, but did not mean to cause trouble in any way, shape, or form. Oakley77 (talk) 00:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Anna's offer

As you know, I'm always recruiting. If an admin decides to allow him to redeem himself, and Oakley77 is willing, I would be willing to provide him with a set of stubs to create and expand, and keep an eye on his contribs.

Competency issues were mentioned, but with GA, I also have competency issues.

This user has shown trouble staying out of areas from which he is prohibited. So, restricting him to a very few articles may be a good test, make him productive, help him reform, and benefit the project with some new content. If he can't contain himself, and starts to put fingers into other pies, indef him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Anna, thank you for your comments; but historically those types of experiments have ended rather poorly, so I'm afraid I couldn't endorse your proposal. Some editors are simply not able to collaborate with others, and as a community we can do nothing except gently exclude them—even if we periodically re-assess whether they might have (through real-life experience, maturation, or other factors) become equipped with the skills they previously lacked. At this stage, it's clear we can do nothing for Oakley77 (or he for us), and that the best advise is he take a few months' break from Wikipedia. The Arbitration Committee usually hear appeals every 6 months, and the community every year; blocking indefinitely (with the presumption that he can request to return after an extended time) seems to me like the best way of proceeding. At the time of any appeal (for example, in 6 months from now), if Oakley is still interested in contributing, then whether or not he had socked would stand to tell us if he is able to comply with the community's policies and decisions. AGK [•] 01:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

AGK: Fair enough, my friend. I trust your judgement.

Oakley: Listen to AGK. Take a break. Don't sock or you'll never be allowed back. Good luck. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

If the offer is still on the table, I metaphorically reach over and take it. I appreciate greatly for helping me, and will diligently do what is asked of me. Oakley77 (talk)

I am with AGK on this. Mentorship has been tried with Oakley77. Oakley77 managed for about a day or so before losing interest in the narrow confines of the conditions which would have allowed him back to GA, proposed articles outside of that area (which required a lot of time and effort to explain why they did not meet them). If Oakley77 had said "I want to get back to GA. I was told to do things on Talk:Jane Moran and I will do them. After I get this done, I will ask for permission to get back to GA or select which articles my mentor will oversee me improving to GA that they can them nominate on my behalf" I might be okay with this. Oakley77 wasted time by not doing that. When told something was not GA ready and would take a huge amount of work to get to GA, Oakley77 then basically said "I don't want you as a mentor anymore", found a new mentor (where he failed to explain his sanctions), required a lot of clean up work after that person helped him and with the article STILL not ready, nominated the article as an IP address. I don't think Oakley77 is ready now. Maybe in a few months, after reading a lot of quality articles and not editing, Oakley77 will begin to see what quality content is and how to properly interact with it. --LauraHale (talk) 01:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I understand. I will read up on articles, and focus on their content. A mentor still would be nice though, if anyone is willing to be one for me. I will comply with what you say, and suggest. Thanks alot! Oakley77 (talk) 01:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

You are blocked; there is no need for a mentor. Also note that if we catch you using a sock again (and we're pretty good at catching this sort of thing), it will decrease your chances of a successful appeal. --Rschen7754 01:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Right, I never will use one again (unless of course I ever am running a bot, which is unlikely). Rschen7754, you have provided me with much helpful advice, and I am thankful for that. I would greatly benefit, and in turn Wikipedia would, if you could just simply outline the steps you would take if you were me. It would be immensely beneficial. Oakley77 (talk) 02:01, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

1. Wait six months. Don't click the edit button during that time.
2. Read quality articles on Wikipedia. Try to improve your writing skills in general. User:Tony1 has some good tips on writing in his userspace; I'm sure there are others on and off Wikipedia.
3. Read the MOS. Read WP:WIAGA and all pages it links to.
4. After six months, follow the steps at WP:OFFER and {{2nd chance}}.
5. If you are unblocked, there will be strings attached. You will probably still be under the same topic ban. Don't violate it, or you will be blocked again, and that time you will probably not have a successful appeal. --Rschen7754 02:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

• Could I al the very least see a list of the stubs Anna wants me to work on? Oakley77 (talk) 18:12, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
• Maybe a possible trial run, one that only permits me to work on the assigned stub, can not only be helpful to Wikipedia but can show my competence. Is that a viable proposal? Oakley77 (talk) 23:35, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
  • No. You need to take a break from editing. --Rschen7754 00:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
    • Is an entire six months necessary? Oakley77 (talk) 02:35, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
      • Yes. Frankly, it is starting to sound unhealthy that you cannot take a break from Wikipedia for that long. --Rschen7754 03:57, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
        • No, I certainly can take a break that long, I was just wondering, that's all. Oakley77 (talk) 18:51, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 July newsletter

We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Bamê for deletion

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WikiCup 2012 August newsletter

The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:

1. Grapple X (submissions) once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially The X-Files and Millenium, with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
2. Miyagawa (submissions) led Pool A this round. Fourth-place finalist last year, Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, and has reached the final primarily off the back of his massive number of did you knows.
3. Ruby2010 (submissions) was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
4. Casliber (submissions) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
5. Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
6. Muboshgu (submissions) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
7. Dana Boomer (submissions) was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance lettuce reach featured article status.
8. Sasata (submissions) is another WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist in 2009 and 2010. He writes mostly on mycology.

However, we must also say goodbye to the eight who did not make the final, having fallen at the last hurdle: GreatOrangePumpkin (submissions), Ealdgyth (submissions), Calvin999 (submissions), Piotrus (submissions), Toa Nidhiki05 (submissions), 12george1 (submissions), The Bushranger (submissions) and 1111tomica (submissions). We hope to see you all next year.

On the subject of next year, a discussion has been opened here. Come and have your say about the competition, and how you'd like it to run in the future. This brainstorming will go on for some time before more focused discussions/polls are opened. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:20, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

= South Ossetia =

Anote Tong

Anote Tong
President of Kiribati
Incumbent
Assumed office 10 July 2003
Vice President	Teima Onorio
Preceded by	Tion Otang (Acting)
Personal details
Born	(1952-06-11) 11 June 1952 Tabuaeran, Gilbert and Ellice Islands (now Kiribati)
Political party	Pillars of Truth
Spouse	Nei Meme
Alma mater	University of Canterbury London School of Economics

Tong's Presidential residence

Anote Tong (Chinese: 汤安诺; pinyin: Tāng Ānnuò; born 11 June 1952) is an I-Kiribati politician with Chinese heritage who is the President of Kiribati. He won the election in July 2003 with a slim plurality of votes cast (47.4%) against his brother, Dr. Harry Tong (43.5%) and the private lawyer Banuera Berina (9.1%). The elections were contested by the opposition, due to allegations of electoral fraud but the High Court of Tarawa had confirmed that there was no fraud. He was easily re-elected on 17 October 2007, for a second term (64%). In 2012, Tong was reelected for a third term, although with a significantly smaller percentage than in the previous two elections.

Biography

Personal life

Born in Tabuaeran, he is the son of a Chinese migrant who settled in the Gilberts after World War II and of Nei Keke, from the island of Maiana in Kiribati, he went to St Bede's College for his secondary school education, graduated from Canterbury University with a degree in Science, and then gained a Masters in Economics degree from the London School of Economics.

He is married to an I-Kiribati woman, First Lady Nei Meme, and has seven children. Tong is originally from the island of Maiana, located in central Kiribati.

First Lady Nei Meme with Jane Beebe of Ecotrust

Political career

File:Anote Tong accepts Blue Frontier award.jpg

President Tong accepts a Blue Frontier Campaign accolade

During the campaign, he promised to review the lease of a spy and satellite tracking base used by the People's Republic of China and "to take appropriate actions at the right time." On 7 November, he established relations with the Republic of China on Taiwan, which led the People's Republic of China to sever relations and vacate its satellite base nearly a month later.

Tong was overwhelmingly re-elected to his seat in parliament in the August 2007 parliamentary election. On 17 October 2007, he was re-elected as president by a large majority. The opposition boycotted the election due to the exclusion of two opposition candidates, including Tong's brother Harry.

Tong was re-elected to a third, and final, four-year term as President in the January 2012 election. Tong won a little over 40% of the popular vote. He defeated two challengers, including his nearest rival, Tetaua Taitai, by more than 2,000 votes. Tong reappointed Teima Onorio to a third term as Vice President of Kiribati on 19 January 2012, as part of his cabinet appointments for his third term.

A women's rights group, the Kiribati National Council of Women, has been formed recently for the primary purpose of advocating for a proposed new government entity, one that would be the Ministry of Women and Children. A bill that among other actions would create this bureau passed through the House of Assembly of Kiribati on 23 August, 2012 and reached the second round of voting, but was ultimately voted against due to a blurry outline on budgetary proportioning. After the National Council of Women voiced its discontent, President Tong stated that "the defeat was unfortunate, but it does not mean that we will not continue to support the women’s issues. As a government, we will do it via other means, and perhaps it will come back to Parliament in the future.” This variably leaves the door open for women's rights to become an even greater issue than it already is in Kiribati.

In response to President Tong's efforts within the climate adaptation field, the President was awarded the distinction of 2012 Hillary Global Laureate. Says Institute Chairman David Caygill: "No nation symbolizes more dramatically than Kiribati both the impact of climate change and the inequity of that impact on different nations. President Tong has been tireless in his efforts to draw these concerns to the attention of the world. We hope this award assists his endeavours." In response to this accolade, a spokesperson for President Tong stated "His Excellency Te Beretitenti is most delighted and honoured to have been considered as the recipient of this award and would be extremely pleased to accept such honour on behalf of his people and his nation and others similarly affected by climate change". President Tong similarly won the Peter Benchley Ocean Award for Excellence in National Stewardship of the Ocean for 2012, with the reason provided for his victory as "For his role in creating one of the world’s largest and most biologically rich marine protected areas, the Phoenix Islands Protected Area".

Speaking up on climate change

President Tong has attracted international attention by warning that his country may become uninhabitable by the 2050s due to rising sea levels and salination provoked by climate change. Tong has stated on several occasions that Kiribati may cease to exist altogether, and that its entire population of 94,000 may need to be resettled as climate refugees. In June 2008, he stated that Kiribati may already have reached "the point of no return"; he added: "To plan for the day when you no longer have a country is indeed painful but I think we have to do that."

President Tong has sought possibilities for ultimately relocating the entire population of his country to other countries. His stated plan is for the people of Kiribati to "receive job training and then seek skilled jobs in other nations", so that they may become productive members of their host society, and avoid becoming merely "environmental refugees". "The plan has already begun to be implemented, with small groups of nurses going to Australia for training and other workers to New Zealand."

Specifically, Tong's government has "signed on to New Zealand’s Recognised Seasonal Employer (RSE) scheme and Australia’s Pacific Seasonal Worker Pilot Scheme (PSWPS), which provide seasonal employment opportunities in fruit-picking and horticulture industries". Only small numbers of I-Kiribati have been able to benefit so far. Tong has also reached an agreement with Australia to set up a Kiribati-Australia Nurses Initiative, whereby about eighty I-Kiribati receive nursing training in Australia, with an aim to "attain Australian nursing qualifications and industry experience". "[S]ome will go back to Kiribati to work the health system, but others will stay in Australia to send remittances home to households and community."

So far, however, no country has agreed to relocate substantial numbers of I-Kiribati. President Levy Mwanawasa of Zambia did tell President Tong that there was "plenty of room" in his country for I-Kiribati migrants, but he died suddenly in office in August 2008. In February 2012, Tong visited Fiji to seek to buy lands from the Fijian government, to resettle I-Kiribati migrants.. Speaking on Fiji One, Tong explained that the migration of his country's population would begin with a fairly small number of trained, skilled workers, while others were in the process of obtaining similar skills, to make themselves useful to the host nation: "We don't want 100,000 people from Kiribati coming to Fiji in one go. They need to find employment, not as refugees but as immigrant people with skills to offer, people who have a place in the community".

In 2008, his government declared 150,000 square miles (390,000 km²) "of [the] Phoenix Islands marine area a fully protected marine park, making it off limits to fishing and other extractive uses". This, the Phoenix Islands Protected Area, was made a United Nations World Heritage Site. Its "rich biodiversity includ[es] an abundance of healthy corals, big sharks, groupers, tuna, giant clams and other critters that have been depleted in much of the rest of the world". Tong explained that it was intended as "a significant contribution to the world community in the hope they would also act".

Declaring himself "extremely disappointed" by the outcome of the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference, Tong has "call[ed] a meeting in November [2010] in Kiribati, inviting large countries—the big polluters—and have them meet with the victims, the most vulnerable states: ours and the Marshall Islands and the Maldives".

During the 2011 Pacific Islands Forum, President Tong raised the notion of a possible floating island that would hold I-Kiribati citizens, and protect them from ever-rising shorelines. President Tong stated that "he'd seen models for a $2 billion floating island", which he likened to a giant offshore oil platform. He said while it sounded "like something from science fiction, every idea had to be considered given the dire situation facing Kiribati". President Tong also proposed other plans, including one for a "series of seawalls at a cost of nearly $1 billion", as well as the prior-mentioned relocation of I-Kiribati to other nations. The President also kvetched that "he's yet to see much in the way of financial aid from Europe despite ambitious pledges."