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Terminology

Tories? In 1799? Where did they come from, Canada? RickK 02:41, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Typo. Thanks for fixing it.... Pollinator 05:47, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- In that case, I'm changing United States Congress to Continental Congress. :) RickK 05:52, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Good. We'll get it right eventually. Actually I didn't realize that "Congress" cross referenced automatically to United States Congress. Thanks. Pollinator 06:21, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

The following sentence links to a Civil War battle of 1864: "The Iroquois warriors continued their devastating raids throughout the war (Burning of the Valleys campaign of 1780), rolling back white settlement to Albany for a time." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.194.32 (talk) 21:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why say this?

"against Loyalists ("Tories") and the four Nations of the Haudenosaunee"

Why not say this instead?

"against the four Nations of the Haudenosaunee and Loyalists ("Tories")"

The campaign was explicitly, specifically directed against the Haudenosaunee, was it not? It's not like it was "Oh, yeah, and perhaps also the Haudenosaunee". Sheesh. This was a wipe-out-the-Iroquois Sherman-style, leave nothing standing campaign against a civilian population. It wasn't a seek-out-the-Tories operation.

Pennsylvania battle(s)

Some references describe battles in PA, possibly including the first one. I'll investigate next time I'm at the Newtown museum. Below from The Pool Tribe of Bradford County by George Lasco, 400 Main, Athens PA, Copyright 1987, George Lasco. Reprinted here.

Pioneers began settling along the Susquehanna in the early 1700s but due to an Indian uprising in the 1760s, settlements were uncertain at best. When the war for independence began in 1776 Indians joined the British, pushing pioneers eastward to the Stroudsburg area. This was called The Great Runaway of 1778 caused mainly by the Iroquois. In a strategic response George Washington sent General John Sullivan and an army of four to six thousand to Tioga Point which is now called Athens [about 20 miles north of Towanda]. Sullivan’s brutal and brilliant campaign of 1778 crippled the Iroquois at Newtown Hill. Genacgenacgenac (talk) 18:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map

I think it would be useful if someone could get a map of his route if its well enough known.24.182.142.254 (talk) 02:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnic Cleansing?

Is there a compelling reason for not mentioning ethnic cleansing at all in this article? 132.236.106.237 (talk) 20:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath

I removed the word "controversial" from the Aftermath section. Use of the word 'controversial' necessitates an explanation of the controversy. Using 'controversial' without an explanation does not enhance the understanding of, or inform, the reader. If 'controversial' is used, the situation needs to be described in context, in a way which makes the controversy understandable and apparent. It cannot be assumed that the reader understands the controversy. Hackercraft (talk) 15:01, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Town Burner nickname

"Notes 1" claims that Washington earned the nickname of "Town Burner" from this expedition, which is false. Washington had this nickname since the 1750s, when he was given the nickname by the Iroquois when they learned he was the great-grandson of John Washington, who also had the nickname.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.58.160.51 (talk) 12:08, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What is your source for verification? —ADavidB 00:51, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I found some sources and have updated the note accordingly. —ADavidB 02:49, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]