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An understanding of the sources might appear original to you without being OR.

In Empirical evidence you accused me of proposing original research. I simply presented my understanding of the literature that I consider relevant to the article. It can very well be that this appears original to you, because you have not read these sources, read them but understood them differently or other reasons. Be careful of not to too quickly accuse others of proposing OR in these situations. You also have your understanding of the sources. We all have our understanding of the sources and our view on their reliability, notability, etc. The only way it can work is by being respectful of each others and discuss in good faith our respective understanding. If the discussion fails, we can do an RfC to include more people in the discussion, but we never accuse someone of not discussing properly or of doing OR, etc., only because we don't reach an agreement. Dominic Mayers (talk) 21:13, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is better to keep to the corresponding talk page for the discussion of the arguments. Phlsph7 (talk) 05:08, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but this comment was only indirectly about the article. It was about the importance of discussing the sources in a respectful manner, in particular, of not accusing others of proposing OR simply because we do not share their understanding of the sources. Editors must do a synthesis of the sources to explain the topic to a large audience. We should not conclude immediately that it is OR. It's the role of the editors to understand the relevant points of view in these sources and to present them in a way that is adequate in a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is built from reliable secondary sources (reliable journals, well known authors, etc.) and tertiary sources (other encyclopedia) and editors must do a synthesis of all that without giving undue weight to any point of view.

In our case, I have noticed that the JTB point of view on knowledge is being emphasized in tertiary sources on the specific subject "epistemology", but other sources (including other encyclopedia articles) present other points of view on knowledge. In Wikipedia, we should not present the JTB point of view as if it was the truth, even if it shows up in a few encyclopedia. Anyway, I agree that this last paragraph should be discussed in the talk page of the article. Here, my goal (in the first paragraph) was only to say that we must be respectful of others and not accuse each others of pushing OR. Dominic Mayers (talk) 10:50, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Peace Movement, "Frieden schaffen, ohne Waffen".

If you do not know about peace, please do not change authentic edits about the peace movement.PeaceWins (talk)