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RD: Bob Saget
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Times Reuters
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by JosHeartTransplant (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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JosHeartTransplant (talk) 19:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
2022 Bronx apartment fire
Blurb: A fire in The Bronx, New York City, kills at least 19 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: In the United States, two fires four days apart, one in The Bronx, and another in Philadelphia, kill a combined total of at least 31 people.
Alternative blurb II: An apartment building fire in New York City kills at least 19 people.
News source(s): NBC New York New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, The Guardian, The Independent, BBC, AP
Credits:
- Created and nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Major fire in New York City. Death toll growing, might be deadliest fire disaster in the city's recent history. Mooonswimmer 20:27, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support major fire disaster, should be mentioned on the front page. 2607:FEA8:E31F:FBC1:E8EA:A4B4:A991:C5B2 (talk) 20:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- at 19 deaths, this fire is one of the worst in modern US history. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 21:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support on the merits. Oppose tying in a fire from four days ago in a completely different city that was not posted. Not sure The Bronx is recognized worldwide. 331dot (talk) 21:18, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough -- I just figured that both could be combined in a single blurb, like we did when there were two mass shootings back-to-back in the US a few years back. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 21:21, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Also: The Bronx may not be recognized everywhere, but I'm sure New York City is. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 21:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- I've proposed an alt blurb with just NYC. 331dot (talk) 21:28, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Bronx, oppose Philadelphia The article for the Philadelphia fire remains a stub, and in any case I don't think we should combine two events into a single blurb if the only connection between them is timing. Ionmars10 (talk) 21:27, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- WAIT. The stubby wikipage only has 1417 characters of readable prose. Obviously too short and not ready. --PFHLai (talk) 21:50, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose on article quality. Both articles are far too short for posting on the main page. Will reconsider if/when they are expanded. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:17, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wait/Oppose Article will improve when more details emerge. Would favor alt 2, as specifying borough seems unnecessary and potentially confusing. GreatCaesarsGhost 22:55, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose ... for now. At 237 words of text at 23:30, article is a stub. – Sca (talk) 23:37, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support NYC, Oppose Philadelphia the Philadelphia article is a stub and I’m not sure if coincidental timing merits including it if there isn’t sufficient coverage - but the NYC fire is a significant event which is all over the news. FlipandFlopped ツ 00:22, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
January 8
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Capitólio rock collapse
Blurb: A rockfall in Capitólio, Brazil, kills at least 7 people. (Post)
News source(s): BBC G1
Credits:
- Nominated by ArionEstar (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Unusual disaster in Brazil. Death toll growing. ArionEstar (talk) 05:17, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
CommentOppose – Quite a bit of coverage, but lacks general significance. – Sca (talk) 13:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)- Weak Support primarily based on the highly unusual nature of the event. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:00, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose - Rockfalls are commonplace. What's unusual about this one is that several tourists were killed by it. I don't think that makes it important enough. It's more suitable for DYK. Jim Michael (talk) 15:47, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Unusual. Tragic. And you just know that had this happened in America, it would have been posted within the hour of the nomaination 5.44.170.26 (talk) 16:39, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not necessarily, although this discussion and the article would be a lot longer had it happened in the US. Jim Michael (talk) 17:27, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Or the UK. – Sca (talk) 20:26, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- It probably wouldn't have been posted if it occurred in the US or the UK. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 21:16, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- With just seven fatals, that's probably so. I was reacting, maybe excessively, to a faint sniff of anti-American bias. – Sca (talk) 23:42, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not necessarily, although this discussion and the article would be a lot longer had it happened in the US. Jim Michael (talk) 17:27, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Support -- it is receiving coverage because of how unlucky the victims were to be right underneath the rockfall, but I am not sure if that alone warrants a blurb. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 21:16, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Mike Gore (physicist)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News; The Canberra Times
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Bloom6132 (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Short but adequate. Good job on the referencing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:28, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per Ad Orientem. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:53, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted -- the wub "?!" 00:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Lourdes Castro
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit) and ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 22:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Support Not wowed by the article's length but I think it is, barely, adequate. No other issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:37, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Robert Hughes
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:
- Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Neveselbert (mobile) (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 22:23, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not Quite Ready A few cites needed. Article length is sub-optimal for promotion on the main page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:34, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose too short and more citations needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Hiranmay Sen Gupta
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Financial Express (Bangladesh)
Credits:
- Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Bangladeshi nuclear physicist. Article is a tad short, but, meets very basic hygiene expectations. Rater.js classifies the article as a start class biography. Ktin (talk) 20:10, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not Ready Article is a stub and requires expansion. That said, referencing is not bad for a change. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, article is not a stub, neither by tagging nor by classification. That said, I agree, as noted by me above, it is a tad short and can benefit from expansion. It is a start-class biography. Ktin (talk) 20:21, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Murree snowstorm
Blurb: At least 22 people are killed by heavy snowfall in Murree, Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: At least 22 tourists freeze to death in vehicles in Murree, Pakistan.
News source(s): Guardian, NY Times, DW, Sky News BBC, AP
Credits:
- Created and nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: The article needs to be updated. Ainty Painty (talk) 16:06, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- "Incident" seems like an odd title. --Masem (t) 16:10, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose on article quality. It's a stub. Will reconsider if/when article is adequately expanded. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:24, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wait/Oppose as article is only a stub. Once it is at least start class, !vote will become a Support. Elijahandskip (talk) 17:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak support Dubious article but odd and noteworthy event This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:57, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment – Quite widely covered, considerable mortality, but basically a weather story. – Sca (talk) 13:08, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support - What makes this notable is the large number of people visiting Murree to see the snow, then many being stranded there when the snowfall increased, some dying as a result. It's not merely a run-of-the-mill weather event. Jim Michael (talk) 14:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- WAIT. Not counting the bullet-points under "Reactions", there are only 181 words of readable prose on this stubby wikipage. Obviously, still too short and not ready. Not to mention the orange tags for {missing information} and the needing for more sourcing. --PFHLai (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
January 7
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RD: Eberhard Zeidler
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; Toronto Star; CTV News / Canadian Press
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Bloom6132 (talk) 01:03, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Francisco Laína
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El País RTVE
Credits:
- Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Spanish politician. As Director of State Security, he headed the civilian provisional government when the government of Adolfo Suárez was sequestered (alongside lawmakers and journalists) in the Congress of Deputies during the 1981 coup d'état. I just created his article and I think it's ready: deep coverage of his career and sourced. Copyediting is needed. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support No major issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:46, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN. —Bloom6132 (talk) 17:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted -- the wub "?!" 00:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: José Évrard
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): JPOST
Credits:
- Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Count Iblis (talk) 18:32, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not Ready Article is a stub and poorly sourced. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:47, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Gerson da Cunha
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of India, Hindustan Times
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Pachu Kannan (talk · give credit), Nichalp (talk · give credit) and Ekabhishek (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Indian advertising professional. Basic edits done. Ktin (talk) 03:59, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Short but adequate. No major issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:22, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support article is good to go. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 00:09, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Jack Dromey
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Martinevans123 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Neveselbert (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: British Labour Party politician and trade unionist. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not ready for the usual reasons. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- If there are any remaining shortcomings, it would be very helpful if you could mark them. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:49, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Done -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. I have added some sources. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Any more? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:43, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. I have added some sources. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Done -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support seems good to me. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 00:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- This looks ready to be posted. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:47, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Lani Guinier
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Boston Globe
Credits:
- Nominated by Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by LifeHopeJoy (talk · give credit), AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit) and Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Article is in fairly good shape but honors section needs verifying. Innisfree987 (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not Quite Ready Article is not bad but there are a couple of cites needed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:05, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Thoroughly referenced now and about as ready as we’re going to be I think! Innisfree987 (talk) 21:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support article is in great condition. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 00:11, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted. Black Kite (talk) 11:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) Sidney Poitier
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Bahamanian-American actor Sidney Poitier (pictured) dies at the age of 94. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Sidney Poitier (pictured), the first black actor to win the Academy Award for Best Actor, dies at the age of 94.
News source(s): Vanity, The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
- Created by Ed Poor (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: Very notable actor, article needs quite a bit of work. Mooonswimmer 15:44, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- "Personally I pronounce it Harry Belafonte".Support blurb, nicely improved. SN54129 — Review here please :) 15:52, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Needs a lot of sourcing help before ready. --Masem (t) 15:49, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not ready Needs some referencing work. Once ready Support blurb, Poitier was a giant in the entertainment industry and arguably the first black actor to make the Hollywood A list. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- The problem is that the article does not give any indication he was a major force in Hollywood. I don't disagree with the assessment he was important, but the article lacks clear statements to this degree, and really should cover that if he was to get a blurb. --Masem (t) 16:03, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:14, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- To add, it does look like the long-form obits coming out should help establish this legacy. --Masem (t) 16:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:14, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Masem: & @Ad Orientem: I've added a legacy section. I'm still expanding it. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:34, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb when ready One of the most important actors who has ever lived, and his death is big news. If you want to talk "transformative in their field", that's Sidney Poitier. I do agree with Masem above who noted that the article isn't there yet and doesn't quite state his importance in a sufficient manner. -- Kicking222 (talk) 16:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality but support blurb in principle if fixed. The article is woefully undersourced, and fails to make clear his importance, which is not helped by the fact that all his awards and honours are listed in a separate page, with no summary on the article. Therefore, the awards and honours doesn't even mention that
He became the first Black actor to win the Academy Award for Best Actor for Lilies of the Field (1963). He also received a Grammy Award, two Golden Globe Awards and a British Academy Film Award.
Which would be the basis for blurbing this. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:19, 7 January 2022 (UTC)- Just being frequently awarded would not be sufficient for a blurb. Poitier has a lot more than just a distinguished acting career that makes him a reasonable blurb, but the fact he helped break the race barrier for Hollywood, which needs to be emphasized more. --Masem (t) 16:29, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb when ready Most important actor and certainly (without debate) top of his field. Article needs work though. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:20, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb as he was an iconic actor and a household name.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb a highly acclaimed and renowned actor, first African-American winner of a Oscar for best actor.--TheDutchViewer (talk) 16:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb absolutely. What he accomplished is most certainly a sui generis example of what RD blurbs were made for.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:47, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- And FYI, at 16:47 GMT, the U.K. should be well and truly awake to weigh in on this discussion. --WaltCip-(talk) 16:48, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb when the article is fully sourced; it currently contains several cn tags. He won many awards, including the top ones. This is the level of achievement that someone should be at in order to be blurbed - rather than beloved, popular, national treasure, very long career etc. which was used to post Betty White. About 99% of notable entertainers aren't blurb-worthy; Poitier is one of the few who is. Jim Michael (talk) 17:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb, support RD Body of work and impact of career not especially notable. Framing of Oscar win by others here is more an achievement by Academy voters. Dr Fell (talk) 17:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- This is an interesting stance to plant your flag on. WaltCip-(talk) 17:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting because it's true. A black actor can (and has been known to) work his or her dramatic ass off, and still easily be snubbed year after year. The dead white voters made that change, for one year, 58 years ago. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:48, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Still, it might have something to do with the fact that this particular performance was so undeniably worthy of the Oscar. BD2412 T 20:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, fair play to him. He met the annual Borgnine/Hackman standard someone always does. But how many here have seriously watched that 1963 movie this millenium? InedibleHulk (talk) 20:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Still, it might have something to do with the fact that this particular performance was so undeniably worthy of the Oscar. BD2412 T 20:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb when ready; possibly worth mentioning in the blurb the fact that he was the first Black man to win the Best Actor Oscar. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:18, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb based on "transformative in their field", which in my opinion describes him well and sets him apart from other popular actors who would fall short of a blurb. Rhino131 (talk) 17:29, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb: I haven't checked article quality, but Poitier is iconic and transformative enough to warrant a blurb. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 17:44, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb in principle If we are going to do the "transformative in their field" thing, this is a perfect candidate. (I'm aware it's not ready quality-wise yet).-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:49, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Serial Number 54129:, @Masem:, @Ad Orientem:, @Kicking222:, @Joseph2302:, @Jim Michael:, @Vanamonde93:, @Pawnkingthree:: I've fixed the article in terms of sourcing. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb now that sourcing has been fixed with no more CN tags. I would also support mentioning his transformative effect on race in Hollywood within the blurb. Kafoxe (talk) 18:24, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support blurb if ready. Breakthrough black actor should deserve a blurb. -Angga (formerly Angga1061) 18:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment For a blurb (which agree here is a reasonable case for a blurb), we really should expand "enough" of the "Awards" section to talk of his legacy in addition to other accomplishments. This is more than just being the first black actor to win an Oscar, but the fact he continued to fight for better representation in Hollywood after the fact and several other black actors were influenced by his success. --Masem (t) 18:44, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted as RD as sourcing is there, but blurb discussion should continue. --Masem (t) 18:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think that the only remaining question is if the groundbreaking aspect is sufficiently covered. There is almost no opposition to a blurb(one oppose was for quality). 331dot (talk) 18:49, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Old Man Dies If this were 1964 and the blurb was about his Oscar, that'd be a story. Same as if this were 1983 and the blurb was about Atlas and Johnson's big step forward. But it's 2022, and the blurb is 100% about ripe old age. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:52, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Is your argument that he was not transformative in his field? 331dot (talk) 18:54, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- No, I'd have said so. It's that the blurb is about him dying at 94. Are you saying Rocky Johnson wasn't transformative? InedibleHulk (talk) 19:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- I apologize, but it wasn't clear to me that an issue with the blurb was being raised. When I wrote it, I used the standard format that we typically do here as a starting point, at least.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 331dot (talk • contribs)
- No worries, this is my standard objection to that automatically boring formula, alt's slightly better (still opposed, though). InedibleHulk (talk) 19:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- I apologize, but it wasn't clear to me that an issue with the blurb was being raised. When I wrote it, I used the standard format that we typically do here as a starting point, at least.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 331dot (talk • contribs)
- No, I'd have said so. It's that the blurb is about him dying at 94. Are you saying Rocky Johnson wasn't transformative? InedibleHulk (talk) 19:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- I was wondering when IH would hit us with the old “old man dies” and I’m glad you once again do not disappoint. Calidum 23:02, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Is your argument that he was not transformative in his field? 331dot (talk) 18:54, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted. Black Kite (talk) 18:55, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Post-posting support altblurb, with Academy Award win mentioned. Kirill C1 (talk) 19:12, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support +altblurb. Transformative figure. Shame we can't call him Sir Vigil Tibbs, but never mind. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Kudos to TDKR Chicago 101 for building out a legacy section to make this clear why we blurbed him. --Masem (t) 20:28, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support altblurb Transformative, should be updated. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Post-posting support altblurb. BD2412 T 22:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Post-posting oppose blurb I know my opposition is pretty useless but just wanted to point out that this is, yet again, sheer americano-centrism. With all due respect to the actor, the rest of the world couldn't care less.Varoon2542 (talk) 08:37, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Big picture of this great actor on the frontpage of a major Czech daily newspaper I bought this Saturday. He was well known (and admired) even behind the Iron Curtain.Pavlor (talk) 09:42, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Varoon2542 If you would like to see more non-Americans posted, please nominate them. We can only consider what is nominated. Instead of suppressing stories from any particular country, which is reverse-bias, the way to see more postings is to work to get things you want to see posted, posted. 331dot (talk) 09:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Per instructions above:
Please do not ... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one.
—Bagumba (talk) 15:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)- But it's the weight of American items. Similarly, RD is almost entirely people from the Anglosphere. We currently have 2 blurbs and 6 RD names, all from the English-speaking world (if you include India). If Mel Brooks and Dick Van Dyke go soon, the entire news section will be about geriatric American entertainers. The 5 main Anglosphere nations (US, UK, Can, NZ, Aus) are only 6% of the world's people, we should try and make it so that they only get say, maximum 20% of the news. I could submit Brazilian and Chinese news all day but that's unlikely to make any real difference. Surely discussing the matter on this page is the first step towards fixing it? Sheila1988 (talk) 20:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Big picture of this great actor on the frontpage of a major Czech daily newspaper I bought this Saturday. He was well known (and admired) even behind the Iron Curtain.Pavlor (talk) 09:42, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Ongoing/Update blurb 2022 Kazakh protests
Blurb: President of Kazakhstan Kassym-Jomart Tokayev orders Kazakh military forces to shoot without warning at the protesters (Post)
Alternative blurb: At least 40 people are killed during country-wide protests in Kazakhstan.
News source(s): Reuters, BBC, Al Jazeera, DW, ApNews, France24,CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: A moving story and development. An very notable and concerning update to the blurb with all RS reporting it, ’shoot to kill orders’ to put down uprising. [2] The president of Kazakhstan claims he has regained control over the country, he has thanked Russia and he has ordered the military to shoot at protestors without warning. Very notable, article is in good condition and this might signal the end of protests with this announcement and Russian military deployed. On the otherhand, a massacare could also happen now as dozens have already been killed and arrested and the military is now free to fire. Definitely the most notable and most concerning update since the protests started. BastianMAT (talk) 11:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Why not using WP:ERRORS to update the blurb, or at least becoming ongoing? 36.77.64.79 (talk) 12:44, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose - The correct process for updating an incremental story such as this is to move it to ongoing.--WaltCip-(talk) 13:45, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Changed to ongoing @WaltCip:, @36.77.64.79: Never done an ongoing nom before, better? BastianMAT (talk) 15:45, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support - Escalating story, definitive support--Roncanada-(talk) 15:52, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment – A blurb is preferable until it rolls off the page. Not sure an ongoing discussion is necessary now. Can an admin just update the blurb and close this discussion? Obviously, if this situation is ongoing in a couple of days and new ITN items have pushed it off the Main Page, it should be added to ongoing. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 16:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, this is the top blurb at the moment, with a picture, moreover! Leave it until it rolls of ITN, then consider ongoing (which should be easy if the story is still unfolding). On the other hand, if there is some major development, the blurb can be updated. (this is the standard process) --Tone 16:40, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not top anymore. Photo gone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.215.241 (talk) 19:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wait Pretty agree with Tone. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:54, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: "A request that the page title be changed to 2022 Kazakh uprising is under discussion." Martinevans123 (talk) 17:57, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wait per Tone. NW1223(Howl at me/My hunts) 18:07, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wait support ongoing once it moves off the blurbs, although as that'll be in a week or so, may need to re-nominate for ongoing then Joseph2302 (talk) 09:45, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment – Coverage Saturday includes 40 dead: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] – Sca (talk) 13:02, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think the blurb needs an udate. Some "protests against a sharp increase in fuel prices" are one thing, but at least 40 dead, a huge influx of Russian troops and a "shoot-to-kill" policy are another. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:17, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Do something. Clearly, the current blurb is not suitable, and if we can't work out one that is I believe we should pull it now and add it to ongoing. BilledMammal (talk) 13:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- I agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:11, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- The blurb has been updated to "
Protests against a sharp increase in fuel prices result in at least 40 deaths and 4,400 arrests across Kazakhstan.
" for now. Please continue with the discussions on moving to "Ongoing". I don't see consensus to move there yet. --PFHLai (talk) 22:06, 8 January 2022 (UTC) - Post-posting comment – Thanks to all who helped make the blurb correspond to several days of RS coverage. – Sca (talk) 23:20, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, @PFHLai:, confirmed by the government to be over 5800 detained now and over 160 killed.BastianMAT (talk) 12:52, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Updated to "...at least 160 deaths and 5,800 arrests..." --PFHLai (talk) 13:54, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
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RD: F. Sionil José
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Straits Times, The New York Times, Rappler
Credits:
- Nominated by DadOfTheYear2022 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Ganmatthew (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Very notable Filipino writer. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 03:14, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not ready Significant gaps in referencing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Peter Bogdanovich
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): THR, NYT, DW
Credits:
- Nominated by TenTonParasol (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit) and Clear Looking Glass (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: The article is currently missing a lot of citations at the moment, but I've noticed there's work being done to clean up the article, so this nom is in anticipation of that work being completed at some point. Context on the subject: influential American director (What's Up, Doc?, Paper Moon) and noted film historian and critic. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 02:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not ready per nom. Referencing is quite poor and will require dramatic improvement before we can post this. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:20, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Blurb Influential filmmaker. As a director, was "A leading voice of ’70s Hollywood"[1]. He is called "legendary"[2][3][4], iconic[5], "fearless genius of cinema"[6] and "champion of cinema"[7]. Also was known for his appearances as an actor. Numerous tributes accross film industry. He was also called legendary previously.[8] Kirill C1 (talk) 16:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose article is orange-tagged. Also, oppose blurb even if sourcing is fixed, as no evidence he's as transformative as the people who get blurbed on ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Scorcese and Coppola elaborate on his influence [9]. He " inspired a new generation of filmmakers, from Wes Anderson to Noah Baumbach" [10]. "Influential director"(The Times)[11]. He was everyone in film industry, from director, auteur, writer, actor, to film critic and film scholar("has an equally storied legacy working as a film critic, historian and speaker", The Wrap)[12]. "He served as a surrogate film professor for a generation"(THR)[13] And he was nominated for Academy Awards. Kirill C1 (talk) 17:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Arguably this is all pointing to being influential (which numerous directors and actors tend to be), but not transformative in establishing new approaches or the like. Plus the article is lacking any detailed explanation that would help to convince on this point. --Masem (t) 17:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- I am struggling to grasp the difference between "legendary", "influential" and transformative. He inspired filmmakers. Here[14] is written more: "Peter Bogdanovich set the table for the Coen Brothers and Quentin Tarantino by pioneering an intriguing new approach to cinema: making movies about other movies". He was also "Pioneer Of New Hollywood"[15], "a key figure in the New Hollywood Movement of 1970s".[16] I think "pioneering" indicates that he was transformative figure. Kirill C1 (talk) 17:28, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, he was influential and so we can find many quotes to attest to that fact. But the same would hold for other film makers. Some objective evidence is provided by this list of the most critically acclaimed directors (https://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_top250directors.htm), and there he ranks "only" 180. So not in the same league as say Coppola, Hsiao-Hsien or Malick. 2A02:8109:9C80:2054:DC76:45E9:14A5:FE83 (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Considering that website is not reliable source and that lots of filmakers on the list died, I am not sure what this url brings to the discussion. "But the same would hold for other film makers." - not many filmmakers were nominated for Academy Award and were listed along with "Dennis Hopper, Arthur Penn, Robert Altman, Hal Ashby"[17](see Peter Bogdanovich there). Kirill C1 (talk) 18:31, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- It's a reliable and objective source, certainly more so than cherry-picked statements. On academy awards, yes, he was nominated once and only once. Like many other filmmakers. In fact, some of these other filmmakers even WON the academy award ;-) And btw, the article you cite emphasizes six filmmakers as key filmmakers. Guess what - Bogdanovich is not one of them, and is merely mentioned as being part of a broader wave of filmmakers. 2A02:8109:9C80:2054:DC76:45E9:14A5:FE83 (talk) 19:57, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- A website named theyshootpictures.com which has 14 urls in Wikipedian articles is more reliable than The Guardian, Wrap, THR, Variety. The director is called legendary. See the full quote"Legendary director Peter Bogdanovich, who came to prominence amid the Hollywood Renaissance of the '70s, has died at the age of 82. He leaves behind an astonishing film legacy, with the likes of Paper Moon, Daisy Miller, and his Oscar-nominated hit The Last Picture Show having an immeasurable imprint on Hollywood history." And more:"...there's no doubt that Bogdanovich will be remembered as one of New Hollywood's most prominent pioneers...The passing of Bogdanovich feels like an epochal moment: one of the greats of Hollywood's most shining era, gone at a time which has never been more uncertain."[18]"An icon of “New Hollywood” of the 1960s and 1970s".[19] He was nominated for two Oscars, won BAFTA, Grammy, won at Venice Film Festival and San Sebastián International Film Festival, and was nominated for Palme d'Or and Golden Berlin Bear. So he had an illustrious career. Kirill C1 (talk) 20:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- It's a reliable and objective source, certainly more so than cherry-picked statements. On academy awards, yes, he was nominated once and only once. Like many other filmmakers. In fact, some of these other filmmakers even WON the academy award ;-) And btw, the article you cite emphasizes six filmmakers as key filmmakers. Guess what - Bogdanovich is not one of them, and is merely mentioned as being part of a broader wave of filmmakers. 2A02:8109:9C80:2054:DC76:45E9:14A5:FE83 (talk) 19:57, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Considering that website is not reliable source and that lots of filmakers on the list died, I am not sure what this url brings to the discussion. "But the same would hold for other film makers." - not many filmmakers were nominated for Academy Award and were listed along with "Dennis Hopper, Arthur Penn, Robert Altman, Hal Ashby"[17](see Peter Bogdanovich there). Kirill C1 (talk) 18:31, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, he was influential and so we can find many quotes to attest to that fact. But the same would hold for other film makers. Some objective evidence is provided by this list of the most critically acclaimed directors (https://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_top250directors.htm), and there he ranks "only" 180. So not in the same league as say Coppola, Hsiao-Hsien or Malick. 2A02:8109:9C80:2054:DC76:45E9:14A5:FE83 (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- I am struggling to grasp the difference between "legendary", "influential" and transformative. He inspired filmmakers. Here[14] is written more: "Peter Bogdanovich set the table for the Coen Brothers and Quentin Tarantino by pioneering an intriguing new approach to cinema: making movies about other movies". He was also "Pioneer Of New Hollywood"[15], "a key figure in the New Hollywood Movement of 1970s".[16] I think "pioneering" indicates that he was transformative figure. Kirill C1 (talk) 17:28, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Arguably this is all pointing to being influential (which numerous directors and actors tend to be), but not transformative in establishing new approaches or the like. Plus the article is lacking any detailed explanation that would help to convince on this point. --Masem (t) 17:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Scorcese and Coppola elaborate on his influence [9]. He " inspired a new generation of filmmakers, from Wes Anderson to Noah Baumbach" [10]. "Influential director"(The Times)[11]. He was everyone in film industry, from director, auteur, writer, actor, to film critic and film scholar("has an equally storied legacy working as a film critic, historian and speaker", The Wrap)[12]. "He served as a surrogate film professor for a generation"(THR)[13] And he was nominated for Academy Awards. Kirill C1 (talk) 17:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb. Come on, we seem to be dropping the ball a bit here. Blurbing is rare, not the norm, and is only reserved for truly transformative and unique figures. — Amakuru (talk) 18:18, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- "the unique and extraordinary role Bogdanovich played"[20]. I would certainly describe writer-director who clearly had a reputation of auteur but also appeared on top-rated shows such as Sopranos, Simpsons and Good Wife and was also journalist and film scholar, inspiring many filmmakers[21] as unique. Kirill C1 (talk) 18:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Old man dies, no blurb Yeah I don't see why he warrants a blurb. Was not "transformative" at all in his field. KingOfAllThings (thou shalt chatter!) 18:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb Oh come on, this is getting a bit silly. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:34, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- OMD As silly for a white guy who made not-exactly-popular-but-familiar titles as it is for a black guy or Antonio Inoki. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:14, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb as nominator. It's probably self-evident since I didn't nominate it as such, but to make it clear. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 21:08, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Let's all forget about blurbing and focus the discussion here on article quality and readiness for use on MainPage. There are quite a few paragraphs with zero footnotes. There is an orange tag at the top of the wikipage asking for better sourcing. Can we have more refs, please? --PFHLai (talk) 14:17, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
January 5
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RD: Neil Nongkynrih
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): India Today
Credits:
- Nominated by DadOfTheYear2022 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Dipen21scc (talk · give credit), Ktin (talk · give credit), Niyorbordoloi (talk · give credit) and PFHLai (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Indian Pianist and founder of the 2010 India's Got Talent winning group. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 23:44, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Several gaps in referencing and the article has a rather promotional tone to it. Needs some work. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: There are still 2 {cn} tags. And, some of the more flowery language needs to be rewritten in a more encyclopedic tone. --PFHLai (talk) 23:46, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- @PFHLai: [citation needed] tags have been filled. I have made edits across the article to improve the tone. Streamlined sections as well. Reasonable C-class biography. Please have a look and let me know if you want any additional edits. Thanks for checking. Ktin (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Lawrence Brooks
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ArmyTimes, AP
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by DadOfTheYear2022 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Koridas (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Oldest US Veteran of WWII, article looks decent, may need updating. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 22:22, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Short article but sufficient for RD, pretty well sourced JW 1961 Talk 22:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Short but adequate. No major issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:49, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Short and clean RD. Good for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 01:19, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. RIP! Sad to see him go. Short article but sufficient for RD. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 12:38, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted. Thryduulf (talk) 15:28, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Kim Mi-soo
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [13], [14]
Credits:
- Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Btspurplegalaxy (talk · give credit), NelsonLee20042020 (talk · give credit) and Aoowassana (talk · give credit)
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- Oppose Article is a stub. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose article is too short, and violates fair image usage, as we shouldn't have two fair use images on the article (doing so violates fair use, thus the article's images are a copyright violation). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:59, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- very weak support. Everything is referenced (indeed overly so in a couple of cases), and there are no images so that seems resolved. However it is short and would significantly benefit from expansion. Thryduulf (talk) 00:26, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Saleh Al-Luhaidan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The National, Saudi Gazette, Al-Arabiya
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
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Ainty Painty (talk) 15:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose on Quality. For a top Saudi scholar, the article is quite short, and the only sources are those reporting his death. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 21:05, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Article is a stub. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:50, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Sindhutai Sapkal
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Rushikesh.tilak (talk · give credit), Ktin (talk · give credit) and GreaterPonce665 (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Indian social worker. Article should be updated soon. Ktin (talk) 01:59, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Article looks good and well sourced. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 03:31, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Nice, well-sourced article. AryKun (talk) 10:55, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per both the above JW 1961 Talk 22:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Marking as Ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:53, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted. Thryduulf (talk) 15:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: William M. Ellinghaus
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:
- Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: American business executive. Article meets basic hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 00:33, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Article is referenced and seems minimally comprehensive. Thryduulf (talk) 00:28, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Long enough (500+ words) and with enough footnotes at expected spots, this wikibio is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 00:07, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 22:17, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Max Fordham
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Building.co.uk Dezeen
Credits:
- Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: British Engineer. Obits should be appearing soon that can be used to update the article. Requires some good work before it can be ready for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 00:33, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. Still large gaps in the referencing. Thryduulf (talk) 00:29, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Tommy Matchick
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by DadOfTheYear2022 (talk · give credit)
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- Support - Just one sentence needs sourcing or removing - in the Personal life section "They also adopted a daughter, Amanda" JW 1961 Talk 22:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support and Comment. Sentence has been removed. Looks good, sad death of a player from my favorite team. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 23:11, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Marking as Ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:56, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted. Thryduulf (talk) 15:32, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) 2022 Kazakh protests
Blurb: Protests erupt in Kazakhstan after a sharp hike in fuel prices (Post)
Alternative blurb: Kazakhstan's government resigns amid large scale protests resulting from a sharp hike in fuel prices
Alternative blurb II: Kazakhstan's government resigns, a state of emergency is declared, and Kazakh military forces are deployed to major cities amid large scale protests resulting from a sharp hike in fuel prices
News source(s): Reuters, AP, Al Jazeera, DW, AFP, France24
Credits:
- Nominated by Pacific26 (talk · give credit)
- Created by ShadZ01 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Article needs work, the situation is spiraling and gaining coverage from multiple reputable outlets/newswires. Per DW a 2-week state of emergency has been declared, looks like this will remain relevant. Pacific26 (talk) 21:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support, will support blurb as well, since state of emergency until 19 January has been declared. Brandmeistertalk 21:51, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support, the government has resigned, added 2 alt blurbs (may need to double check them for grammar, im not a native speaker) 5.44.170.26 (talk) 01:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the updated alt blurbs, I'll touch them up a little for grammar Pacific26 (talk) 02:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- The timeline needs to be updated with the resignation of the government, otherwise this has grown to the ITN level story, support posting. --Tone 08:33, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Updated with sources. Brandmeistertalk 12:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- The timeline needs to be updated with the resignation of the government, otherwise this has grown to the ITN level story, support posting. --Tone 08:33, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the updated alt blurbs, I'll touch them up a little for grammar Pacific26 (talk) 02:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality needs information/decent source (i.e. not RT) on the resignation of the government. Consider this a supprt once that's done. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:14, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Done, Western sources added now. Brandmeistertalk 12:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- How reliable is the US -funded RFERL? Mooonswimmer 13:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Done, Western sources added now. Brandmeistertalk 12:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support - Alt blurb preferred over Alt II. Mjroots (talk) 12:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment – Very widely covered by Eng.-lang. RS sites on Wednesday. Seems potentially significant, at least to the region. (Unsurprisingly, the Russians are warning everyone else to stay out of 'their' back yard.) However, the article is organized in an unusual day-by-day scheme, and many citations are to non-English sources. Some, such as cite No. 19 to Central Asia Media, do offer English versions. On English Wiki, more English refs would be better. – Sca (talk) 13:29, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Non-English language sources are acceptable, and the coverage may be better in the non-English version of a source compared to its English version. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:34, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support because it's easily important enough & the article is good enough. Jim Michael (talk) 14:48, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Strong support This has international significance and should be recognized as such in ITN. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 15:03, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posting. --Tone 15:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support, The government has resigned, makes it important news. Alex-h (talk) 17:13, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comments, Kazakh president has requested CSTO intervention. Russian (and other CSTO) troops/MPs are likely to enter the country in the next few hours. We should update the blurb accordingly as it happens. 5.44.170.26 (talk) 19:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- comment' CSTO Collective Security Council has unilterally agreed to send troops/mps to Kazakhstan to stop the rioting (https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/csto-collective-security-council-to-deploy-pe-1442241.html) 5.44.170.26 (talk) 22:04, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Post-posting comment – Shoot-to-kill ordered by President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev. Twenty-six protestors reported dead. [15] [16] [17] [18] – Sca (talk) 13:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- See #Ongoing/Update blurb 2022 Kazakh protests above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.215.241 (talk) 19:02, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Jim Corsi (baseball)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MLB.com; Boston.com; WBTS-CD (NBC)
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
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Bloom6132 (talk) 18:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Adequate depth of coverage, referenced. SpencerT•C 00:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:56, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Viktor Saneyev
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2022/01/03/viktor-saneyev-dies-triple-jump/
Credits:
- Nominated by Kaiser matias (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit) and Pachu Kannan (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Olympic triple jumper; won 3 gold and 1 silver medal over 4 Olympics Kaiser matias (talk) 21:57, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- With 600+ words, this wikibio is more than long enough to qualify. Coverage seems okay, but more descriptions on what happened at other competitions (apart from the 1980 Olympics) would be great. Refs are missing from a couple of spots, and there are some old refs that need to be updated or replaced. This is close to be ready for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 13:48, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- I addressed the tagged issues, but if there's anything else needed just let me know. Kaiser matias (talk) 16:35, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the extra citations. This wikibio looks to be READY for RD now. Please note that the link in footnote #7 does not seem to lead to pertinent information. Perhaps this should be updated or replaced. I don't think this one defect should hold this RD nomination back, though. --PFHLai (talk) 21:34, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- I removed it. Citation #6 ("Viktor Sanayev Biography") has all the relevant information without any ambiguity. Kaiser matias (talk) 02:34, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, Kaiser matias. --PFHLai (talk) 14:31, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- I removed it. Citation #6 ("Viktor Sanayev Biography") has all the relevant information without any ambiguity. Kaiser matias (talk) 02:34, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the extra citations. This wikibio looks to be READY for RD now. Please note that the link in footnote #7 does not seem to lead to pertinent information. Perhaps this should be updated or replaced. I don't think this one defect should hold this RD nomination back, though. --PFHLai (talk) 21:34, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- I addressed the tagged issues, but if there's anything else needed just let me know. Kaiser matias (talk) 16:35, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support now looks good to go. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:51, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 22:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Beatrice Mintz
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.aacr.org/professionals/membership/in-memoriam/beatrice-mintz-obituary/
Credits:
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: American embryologist and pioneer of genetic engineering. More than long enough at 900+ words of readable prose. Need more refs, but close to being ready for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 04:14, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) 2022 PDC World Darts Championship
Blurb: In darts, Peter Wright (pictured) wins the PDC World Darts Championship. (Post)
News source(s): BBC The Guardian
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by OZOO (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: World Championship not on ITNR, but posted in 2018, 2019, 2020. OZOO (t) (c) 22:51, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Article looks in good shape with sourced prose about the tournament including the final. Thryduulf (talk) 23:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Conditionally Support We generally posting the victory of a person who awarding the tournament as ITNR, so why not posted as ITNR? Aside from that, the article looks in good shape.125.167.57.8 (talk) 00:24, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- There are no darts events at WP:ITNR, so this nomination requires vetting.—Bagumba (talk) 05:01, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I accept that it's not just a bar game in some parts of the world, but I don't have a sense of its signficance. There was no front page coverage at The Independent's UK page nor ESPN.co.uk, but there was at ESPN.nl and BBC.com.—Bagumba (talk) 04:59, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose because I am against this being part of ITNR because I don’t think this event is significant enough. Tradediatalk 06:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Tradedia This is not an ITNR nomination. 331dot (talk) 11:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose, sporting event that is not of global importance. Sandstein 09:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Sandstein "Global importance" is not to be found anywhere in the ITN criteria. If global importance was required, very little would be posted. 331dot (talk) 11:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not to mention that the tournament included competitors from 30 countries on nearly every continent. Black Kite (talk) 12:29, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- We really should be trying to feature at most one top level routine event from any organized type of competition as long as we know that's regularly covered by news (so that speed underwater basketweaving competition sadly won't make it) so that we have a broad spectrum of these across a year. This seems like the top tier event in darts, and is covered, so this seems appropriate. --Masem (t) 13:24, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Sandstein "Global importance" is not to be found anywhere in the ITN criteria. If global importance was required, very little would be posted. 331dot (talk) 11:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose not important event for me. 116.206.35.4 (talk) 11:51, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- That this is not personally important to you is not a reason to oppose this nomination, see WP:IDONTLIKEIT. 331dot (talk) 11:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Clearly, the World Darts Championship is important to every man, woman and child, whether they are into darts or not. – Sca (talk) 14:24, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- That this is not personally important to you is not a reason to oppose this nomination, see WP:IDONTLIKEIT. 331dot (talk) 11:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. I'm not particularly interested in darts, but this is a decent article in terms of quality, including sourced prose of the final match. This topic is in the news and I think posting it fulfills our purpose. We've also posted it before. The oppose arguments given are not particularaly persuasive. 331dot (talk) 12:00, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support primarily because it is good original content, which is our primary purpose. The significance debate is fine, but we have established general consensus that one event per significant sport (minimum) is appropriate. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:07, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Good quality article, in the news, posted in the last 3 occurrences, Oppose rationales are generally WP:IVENEVERHEARDOFIT. We post a number of sporting events (indeed, many are ITNR) whose significance to much of the world is negligible. Black Kite (talk) 12:25, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, only 3 of the last 4: Not 2021.—Bagumba (talk) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, I assumed it had been cancelled last year. Looks like the problems with it were quality related though. Black Kite (talk) 12:35, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, only 3 of the last 4: Not 2021.—Bagumba (talk) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Good quality and fully updated article. Top event in a significant sport. the wub "?!" 13:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Top tier event, decent article, in the news.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:54, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Conditional Support - It's the top event of a sport that's watched in multiple countries with contesters from all over the world (which is more than can be said of certain ITNR sporting events....), there should be no question on notability for ITN. There is a "[clarification needed]" buried in the article that need fixing first though. -- KTC (talk) 14:44, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Because this has been posted three of the last four years - last year being the exception because of the quality of the article - I see no reason not to do so again this year. If posted, I'd recommended this be considered for ITNR as well. Calidum 17:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good. I have no problem directing people to it from the main page. --Jayron32 18:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted It seems that the PDC Championship is starting to become de facto ITNR as the first blurb of each new year, but a formal discussion to that effect will have to be done. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:40, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Can we find a better photo? The resolution is poor. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 19:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- I have opened an ITNR addition discussion. 331dot (talk) 20:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Igor & Grichka Bogdanoff
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde, France 24
Credits:
- Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former French television presenter Igor Bogdanoff dies 6 days after his twin brother Grichka's death. Article should be fully updated soon. Mooonswimmer
- Comment Brother's nomination is still outstanding at #(Posted) RD: Grichka Bogdanoff.—Bagumba (talk) 19:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Question could they be included in the same space as "Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff"? Or would they have to be separate? In any case, the tags that are there should be fixed. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:42, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Too many tags and issues with sources used. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support when problems with article are fixed. Important to mention is that "Several friends told them to get themselves vaccinated but they felt because of their lifestyle and their lack of comorbidity, they weren't at risk of Covid." and ""They were both athletic, with not an inch of fat, and they thought the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus.". Count Iblis (talk) 16:02, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- For RD, the articles can be posted when they are in shape, no need to "support when fixed" ;) --Tone 16:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support their article is fine considering their "storied" career, and with both dying so shortly after another there isnt gonna be another opportunity to post this. jonas (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Nowhere near in shape for posting. GreatCaesarsGhost 19:59, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I have cleared most of the bad source tags. Lots of content in the Bogdanoff Affair section was based solely on poor sources such as Usenet posts and direct links to journal articles, which I have trimmed and replaced where possible. Kafoxe (talk) 21:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Posted as a joint entry. Stephen 23:01, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: Mordechai Ben-Porat
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jerusalem Post
Credits:
- Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Artegia (talk · give credit), Number 57 (talk · give credit) and PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Lines and paragraphs unsourced. This must be fixed before it can be included in the Main Page. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:07, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Inadequate sourcing and frankly it's little more than a stub. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:58, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
RD: S. H. Sarma
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Economic Times (India)
Credits:
- Nominated by InedibleHulk (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Indian Navy Vice Admiral. c Ktin (talk) 17:52, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support (as nominator, apparently) An interesting character, decent length, no glaring weaknesses. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:00, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Article is in good shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:07, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good. – Ammarpad (talk) 21:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Well written atricle and has sufficient sources. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 01:41, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment His autobiography is heavily cited. Not sure if there is a concern with independent sourcing.—Bagumba (talk) 09:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per Bagumba. Far too much primary sourcing to post. GreatCaesarsGhost 21:11, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- I gave this one a cursory read, but, it seems like his autobiography is sourced for non-contentious factual statements. Ktin (talk) 00:38, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per GCG. Using primary sources for the odd few things is OK, but when it's approaching 50% of the citations there are concerns about paraphrasing, excessive detail, independence, etc. When the next most used source is somebody else's autobiography I'm also wondering about the reliability overall. Thryduulf (talk) 00:34, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Citizen News of Hong Kong shut down after Stand News' closure
Article: Citizen News (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: After the closure of Stand News due to its staff being arrested for sedition, Citizen News follows suit due to an uncertain media environment. (Post)
News source(s): Japan Times, Reuters, CNN, BBC, France24, AP, DW
Credits:
- Nominated by 1233 (talk · give credit)
- Created by Cypp0847 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Cypp0847 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: Follow up to the Stand News' closure. The closure notice clearly stated the closure of Stand News being the defining factor, plus the closure being widely reported worldwide. It seems possible to merge this with Stand News' closure. May need a way better blurb to summarise the story. 1233 ( T / C) 11:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality article is short, and being made to look longer by an enormous quote that is a massive recentism. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Noting the quality issue above, the Stand news is still in the box, so that can be updated to include this, rather than a new blurb. But the article quality needs to be there. --Masem (t) 13:31, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Reply - I'm also thinking that, but I can't think of a new blurb. Of course, the article can be expanded from zhwp though.--1233 ( T / C) 18:48, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment – Very widely covered. – Sca (talk) 14:34, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
PM Abdalla Hamdok of Sudan resigns
Blurb: Prime Minister of Sudan Abdalla Hamdok resigns following new protests and deaths related to the October–November 2021 Sudanese coup d'état. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, France24, Reuters, Xinhua, DW, AP, BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Previously posted, but events do not seem to be settled and this is a politically significant new update. - Indefensible (talk) 01:34, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment This seems to be a step in the coup, as Hamdok had been detained when the coup started, and this appears to be admission he will not be the leader as the coup continues. --Masem (t) 01:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Possible that an ongoing entry may become appropriate if this event continues to unfold with real and encyclopedic updates. - Indefensible (talk) 01:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Except that in considering ongoing, there has been very little posted on a day-to-day basis to justify an ongoing topic. This seems like the most recent update in the last 2 weeks, for example. --Masem (t) 01:52, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Possible that an ongoing entry may become appropriate if this event continues to unfold with real and encyclopedic updates. - Indefensible (talk) 01:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Significant step in this story, being covered internationally. Article is briefly updated and appears adequate. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:59, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - I have a feeling we should delay the blurb in case of new updates. (PenangLion (talk) 05:43, 3 January 2022 (UTC))
- Support significant story, which is in the news. Fine to post now, and can update if there are further developments- waiting in case there are more developments seems like WP:SPECULATION to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:09, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment – Widely covered. – Sca (talk) 14:38, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment There is one-sentence update in the article, though it is as factual as it can get. Still feels a bit short. --Tone 16:23, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Tone: It is a short update, but it is a breaking news story so I'm sure it'll get expanded as more information is known. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support significant story and the article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Looks good. NW1223(Howl at me/My hunts) 17:43, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose ... for now. Updated portions look quite thin. – Sca (talk) 20:50, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose The coup d'état made him a lame duck Prime Minister. So his resignation is no longer at the level of importance of a blurb. Tradediatalk 04:26, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
References
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- ^ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-06/hollywood-reacts-to-the-death-of-peter-bogdanovich?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google
- ^ https://nypost.com/2022/01/06/peter-bogdanovich-last-picture-show-director-dead-at-82/
- ^ https://collider.com/peter-bogdanovich-dead-at-82/
- ^ https://decider.com/2022/01/06/peter-bogdanovich-dies-at-82/
- ^ https://variety.com/2022/film/obituaries-people-news/peter-bogdanovich-dead-dies-director-1235148166/
- ^ https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jan/06/peter-bogdanovich-a-loving-cineaste-and-fearless-genius-of-cinema
- ^ https://www.thewrap.com/peter-bogdanovich-remembered-as-champion-of-cinema-marvelous-film-critic-and-author/
- ^ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/peter-bogdanovich-recalls-horrified-local-reaction-last-picture-show-1273842/
- ^ https://www.indiewire.com/2022/01/peter-bogdanovich-tributes-del-toro-coppola-1234689058/
- ^ https://www.euronews.com/culture/2022/01/06/wonderful-great-artist-famed-film-auteur-peter-bogdanovich-dead-at-82
- ^ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/peter-bogdanovich-director-of-the-last-picture-show-dies-aged-82-wxn30g82t
- ^ https://www.thewrap.com/peter-bogdanovich-remembered-as-champion-of-cinema-marvelous-film-critic-and-author/
- ^ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/peter-bogdanovich-dead-last-picture-show-1235070769/
- ^ https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/01/an-exasperating-brilliant-filmmaker-who-changed-his-art-form/
- ^ https://screenrant.com/peter-bogdanovich-death-obituary/
- ^ https://www.screendaily.com/news/peter-bogdanovich-the-last-picture-show-director-dies-aged-82/5166387.article
- ^ https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/movie-brats-movie-era/
- ^ https://collider.com/peter-bogdanovich-dead-at-82/
- ^ https://www.avclub.com/r-i-p-peter-bogdanovich-1848315460
- ^ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/one-skinny-dipping-scene-proves-peter-bogdanovich-hollywoods/
- ^ https://www.thewrap.com/peter-bogdanovich-appreciation-critic-filmmaker-hollywood/