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Genre should be "Dance-pop, disco, house".

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On the day this song was released, I noted that the genre was listed as "Pop, house." However, the song is generally driven by a funk-influenced backbeat, which puts it really more into the "disco" category. (And with the prominent "I Will Survive" sample, that supports the "disco" label even further.) Various transition effects, such as the intro synth pad fade, indicate that there is some influence from house music. The most accurate description for a song that incorporates these eclectic influences into a mainstream club-oriented pop song, is "dance-pop".

Therefore, I changed the genre from "Pop, house" to "Dance-pop, disco, house."

A few days later, someone changed this to "Disco-pop, house" and this prompted Paper9oll to rollback my original edit for "lacking verifiable source." Therefore, I made significant enhancements to the "composition section", and added a direct source.

The source indicates that "After Like" is a pop song which borrows from "EDM, disco, and house music". According to Wikipedia, "EDM" is effectively an umbrella term in this context. Therefore, the "EDM" label is unnecessary and redundant, since we've already listed "house" and "disco" specifically.

The source does not use the word "dance-pop", but it supports this categorization extremely well. I can explain why. Wikipedia has the perfect definition of "Dance-pop":
"Dance-pop is [...] generally uptempo music intended for nightclubs with the intention of being danceable but also suitable for contemporary hit radio. Developing from a combination of dance and pop with influences of disco, post-disco and synth-pop, it is generally characterised by strong beats with easy, uncomplicated song structures which are generally more similar to pop music than the more free-form dance genre, with an emphasis on melody as well as catchy tunes."

Therefore, "dance-pop" is clearly the most accurate category for the set of influences noted by verifiable sources we have cited in the "composition" section.

Anyway, my "2nd edit" with verifiable sources remained in place for 2 weeks without challenges. Then, an anonymous user changed it from "Dance-pop, disco, house" to "Pop, EDM, disco, house." This is supported by taking individual words from my sources, without considering the context.

Paper9oll first responded with a rollback (restoring "Dance-pop, disco, house"), and then Paper9oll reinstated the anonymous edit with a manual revert.

Summary:
(1) Citations refer to a "pop" song with influences from "disco, EDM, and house."
(2) As defined by Wikipedia, the most accurate description for a song that incorporates these eclectic influences into a mainstream club-oriented pop song, is "dance-pop".
(3) EDM is an umbrella term in this context (redundant).
(4) Therefore, the genre should say "Dance-pop, disco, house."
Jbrashears (talk) 22:28, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted your recent edits as the Nylon source that you said you added previously doesn't explictly stated "dance pop/dance-pop" and/or "pop dance/pop-dance". It does seem to me that you're synthesizing. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 04:33, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Include album cover or no?

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I am pretty sure it is standard to include the album cover if doing so satisfies WP:NFCC. The previous image present, the Spotify image, did not do much to serve critical identification per WP:NFCC8 IMHO so I switched it. Now I am not entirely sure because I saw a few IPs before me also include this specific album cover. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 17:23, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sampling

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This song actually not sampling I Will Survive directly. They sampled it via Robbie Williams' song "Supreme" but he doesn't get credit in After Like. I cannot put it to the article because i don't have reliable source for this, only a video from Youtube. Can you all find any reliable source that mentioned both songs? -GogoLion (talk) 06:24, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]