Aero Spacelines Mini Guppy and Henschel Projekt P.75
Hey, I was just wondering, I found out that the Mini Guppy article has been deleted, and have found your sandbox for it, are you intending to improve it to meet GNG or are using it for other articles A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A-37Dragonfly I plan on improving it with sources from my university's library. If I can't adequately do that, then I plan on incorporating it into an existing article (in fact, I would not be opposed to merging all Aero Spacelines Guppy aircraft into a single article). I have yet to get to it as the past few weeks have been crazy for me, so if you wish to work on it, feel free to do so. I consider my sandbox open to all who wish to contribute. - ZLEAT\C00:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I do not plan on helping right now, but I am happy to know it is being worked on as I really like the Guppy line of planes. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:35, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Same here. I remember when I first saw the prototype Super Guppy at the Pima Air & Space Museum when I was 10 years old. That was the first time I had heard of or seen the Guppy line, and I want to spot N941NA the next time it flies to Florida. - ZLEAT\C00:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm planning to eventually go there one day, but that's gonna be a little difficult as I'm on the other side of the country, nice to see someone else who likes the Guppy line as much as I do A-37Dragonfly (talk) 01:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know of quite a few sources that might have some information on the P.75. I'll be sure to check them out when I go for the Mini Guppy sources. - ZLEAT\C01:07, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A-37Dragonfly I was able to find some sources for the Mini Guppy. I did not find any for the Henschel P.75, though I now realize that I might have been looking in the wrong places, so I will not give up hope on that one just yet. - ZLEAT\C20:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, it's fine if you can't find many sources on the P.75, as there is a massive sea of WW2 German wind-tunnel designs that never flew, theres actually a website that has them all: Luft46.com, (could'nt add link because its pretty old) A-37Dragonfly (talk) 23:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Luft46.com is known to perpetuate debunked myths about German wunderwaffe. It is on the list of common aviation sources to avoid, as is Military Factory. I'm not saying the P.75 is one of those myths, but Luft46.com should not be used as a source for the article. I'll keep looking for sources, but you might want to WP:PROD the article in the meantime. - ZLEAT\C23:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I didnt know Luft46 was, but after I put up the P.75 article, I found out military factory was unreliable, but i didnt know how to PROD it, I still dont know, could you help PROD it? A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw your PROD attempts. You might want to try Twinkle. It greatly simplifies PRODing, reverting vandalism, and many other otherwise tedious tasks. - ZLEAT\C03:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it might be a good source. I could have sworn that I checked that one, but I might be mistaking it for a similarly-titled book. - ZLEAT\C21:30, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, im currently adding the book source wherever possible, for now ive left the old sources in, but if you want me to remove them i can. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I already replaced some of the sources, so you will likely run into an edit conflict. I don't really care what you do with the remaining unreliable sources, you can leave them in for now (you might want to tag them) or replace them with citation needed tags. - ZLEAT\C21:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also think we should consider removing "Projekt" from the titles of Henschel Projekt P.75 and Henschel Projekt P.87. I have not seen many reliable sources covering these aircraft, but most reliable sources I've seen covering other Projekts from Henschel and other manufacturers do not include "Projekt" in the designation. Since "P" already stands for Projekt, it's as redundant as "ATM machine". - ZLEAT\C00:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've actually found a lot of issues on the P.87 article, no sources at all, no image (least of the concerns), and the name, I also don't know how to change the article name. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We should probably find some more sources before we commit to page moves. We would have a stronger argument in favor of the moves if we have sources to back them up. - ZLEAT\C00:53, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have another source, but the source I have for the P.87 actually had more info on it than I thought, maybe even a diagram (I'm really not sure, just there was a diagram on it, but it's probably not worth going after it) A-37Dragonfly (talk) 01:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll also start looking for some sources, But I dont think i will be able to add too many as I don't have a large library near me, so I'll have to stick to online sources or books I can find online. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out my university's library has a source we can use. It also has a few with brief mentions, but not nearly enough information for our purposes. Between this and the online sources, I think we might have enough to replace the existing unreliable sources. - ZLEAT\C03:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The brief mentions sources may not be suited for the article, but when we try to move the pages to remove "projekt", I think those would help, they dont use projekt right? A-37Dragonfly (talk) 19:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So we could make a argument showing unreliable sources like Luft 46, Military factory, and TVD.IM use projekt, and reliable ones do not. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 19:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unreliable sources are not usually taken into account during page moves. I still have yet to see any reliable source use Projekt, so I don't know that removing it would be likely to be challenged. - ZLEAT\C19:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just have 1 more thing, its about the Mini Guppy article, there were 2 Turbines versions built, and they both flew but the first turbine, N111AS, crashed in testing, N112AS was never pressed into service I believe, but what happened to it after, was it broken up for scrap like the Pregnant Guppy? Did it continue testing and decided not to be put into service? A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have yet to find any information on the history of N112AS other than its FAA registration details. Many sources claim that only N111AS was built, but that's clearly not true as it was registered with the FAA. The only other information I have found, as well as what seems to be the only image of the aircraft online, is from this X post, which I have serious doubts about its reliability and accuracy. - ZLEAT\C22:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, while I was l searching for what happened to N112AS I came across those, Its probably best to assume after the N111AS crash, It was possibly deemed unsafe and scrapped A-37Dragonfly (talk) 23:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your work in saving the Aero Spacelines Mini Guppy from deletion. I believe this PROD was poorly conducted, and even might not have been proposed in good faith. That said, thanks to your action, Wikipedia has ended up with a stronger article because of it! Thank you! Rlandmann (talk) 22:04, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rlandmann Thanks. I had actually PRODed the article at the request of the creator as it was entirely sourced from unreliable sources. I had previously checked my university's library for sources but found nothing, though I still plan to double check because I might have missed some sources. - ZLEAT\C00:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! I understood what had happened with the P.75. As a general rule, in practice, an individual aircraft type (even an unbuilt one) will almost always pass GNG. It might just be tricky to get to the sources!
As for the Mini Guppy, it was PRODed by an IP, but one with an editing pattern that resembles that of a tendentious editor of the distant past. As for carrying out the PROD, I assume good faith, of course, but it should have been manifestly evident to the admin who actually performed the deletion that this was not a PROD candidate! Anyway, I'm just glad it's back where it should be! --Rlandmann (talk) 01:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The software used to render SVG files has been updated to a new version, fixing many longstanding bugs in SVG rendering. [6]
The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It was changed last week in some skins (Vector legacy and Minerva). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in Vector-2022. The developers are still considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
The HTML markup used for citations by Parsoid changed last week. In places where Parsoid previously added the mw-reference-text class, Parsoid now also adds the reference-text class for better compatibility with the legacy parser. More details are available. [7]
Problems
There was a bug with the Content Translation interface that caused the tools menus to appear in the wrong location. This has now been fixed. [8]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 June. It will be on all wikis from 13 June (calendar). [9][10]
The new version of MediaWiki includes another change to the HTML markup used for citations: Parsoid will now generate a <span class="mw-cite-backlink"> wrapper for both named and unnamed references for better compatibility with the legacy parser. Interface administrators should verify that gadgets that interact with citations are compatible with the new markup. More details are available. [11]
On multilingual wikis that use the <translate> system, there is a feature that shows potentially-outdated translations with a pink background until they are updated or confirmed. From this week, confirming translations will be logged, and there is a new user-right that can be required for confirming translations if the community requests it. [12]
Howdy! Regarding the Cessna name and model number template, the initial Citation model was marketed as the "Citation 500" or "Citation Series 500" before the upgraded Citation I was announced. Many published sources from the early 70s ignore the model number, presumably because there was no other Citation to confuse it with; additionally, many of these aircraft were converted to the full Citation I standard or close to it. However, early 70s Cessna advertising and later sources such as this 1991 Flying article reference the full name. Carguychris (talk) 18:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Carguychris While many Cessna aircraft were marketed with their model numbers, the list of names should be for marketing names other than the model numbers. For example, the Cessna 172 was initially marketed only as the "172" before the deluxe model added the "Skyhawk" name. We don't include "172" in the navbox's list of names even though it was the only designation applied to many early models. The Model 500 is no different, as "500" is the model number while "Citation I" is a name that was applied to certain aircraft of the type. - ZLEAT\C18:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you re-added "500" to the list of names. If you feel strongly about including it, then perhaps we should start an RfC about adding all model numbers that were marketed without names to the list of names (which, I'm going to be honest, I would oppose). - ZLEAT\C18:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will you help
Ahm, bro do you remember me, you've helped me a couple of times before and I really appreciate it but in my sandbox as I'm translating an article there's been some problem like I don't know how to use sfn properly and before the article goes outta hand I'm seeking your assistance
@ZLEA, what happens is when I click on the references it doesn't lead to anywhere unlike the Russian one from where I'm translating that if you click on refs it takes you to sources section and highlights the ref Waleed (talk) 14:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
M WaleedThis edit fixed the issue for the Сахарова source. There seems to be an issue with how you were filling the "ref" parameter in Template:Cite web. Instead of filling it manually, you should use {{harvid|(last name)|(year)}}. Likewise, the references should follow the {{sfn|(last name)|(year)|p=(optional)}} format, with the last name and year being identical to those used in the harvid template. - ZLEAT\C14:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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People who attempt to add an external link in the visual editor will now receive immediate feedback if they attempt to link to a domain that a project has decided to block. Please see Edit check for more details. [13]
The dark mode beta feature is now available on category and help pages, as well as more special pages. There may be contrast issues. Please report bugs on the project talk page. [16]
Problems
Cloud Services tools were not available for 25 minutes last week. This was caused by a faulty hardware cable in the data center. [17]
Last week, styling updates were made to the Vector 2022 skin. This caused unforeseen issues with templates, hatnotes, and images. Changes to templates and hatnotes were reverted. Most issues with images were fixed. If you still see any, report them here. [18]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar). [19][20]
Starting June 18, the Reference Edit Check will be deployed to a new set of Wikipedias. This feature is intended to help newcomers and to assist edit-patrollers by inviting people who are adding new content to a Wikipedia article to add a citation when they do not do so themselves. During a test at 11 wikis, the number of citations added more than doubled when Reference Check was shown to people. Reference Check is community configurable. [21]
Mailing lists will be unavailable for roughly two hours on Tuesday 10:00–12:00 UTC. This is to enable migration to a new server and upgrade its software. [22]
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Editors will notice that there have been some changes to the background color of text in the diff view, and the color of the byte-change numbers, last week. These changes are intended to make text more readable in both light mode and dark mode, and are part of a larger effort to increase accessibility. You can share your comments or questions on the project talkpage. [23]
The text colors that are used for visited-links, hovered-links, and active-links, were also slightly changed last week to improve their accessibility in both light mode and dark mode. [24]
Problems
You can copy permanent links to talk page comments by clicking on a comment's timestamp. This feature did not always work when the topic title was very long and the link was used as a wikitext link. This has been fixed. Thanks to Lofhi for submitting the bug. [25]
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar). [26][27]
Starting 26 June, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link at English Wikipedia, making this feature available for you to use at all wikis. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they were linked to, even if this comment has since been moved elsewhere. You can read more about this feature on Diff or on Mediawiki.org. [28]
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Over the next three weeks, dark mode will become available for all users, both logged-in and logged-out, starting with the mobile web version. This fulfils one of the top-requested community wishes, and improves low-contrast reading and usage in low-light settings. As part of these changes, dark mode will also work on User-pages and Portals. There is more information in the latest Web team update. [29]
Logged-in users can now set global preferences for the text-size and dark-mode, thanks to a combined effort across Foundation teams. This allows Wikimedians using multiple wikis to set up a consistent reading experience easily, for example by switching between light and dark mode only once for all wikis. [30]
If you use a very old web browser some features might not work on the Wikimedia wikis. This affects Internet Explorer 11 and versions of Chrome, Firefox and Safari older than 2016. This change makes it possible to use new CSS features and to send less code to all readers. [31][32]
Wikipedia Admins can customize local wiki configuration options easily using Community Configuration. Community Configuration was created to allow communities to customize how some features work, because each language wiki has unique needs. At the moment, admins can configure Growth features on their home wikis, in order to better recruit and retain new editors. More options will be provided in the coming months. [33]
Editors interested in language issues that are related to Unicode standards, can now discuss those topics at a new conversation space in MediaWiki.org. The Wikimedia Foundation is now a member of the Unicode Consortium, and the coordination group can collaboratively review the issues discussed and, where appropriate, bring them to the attention of the Unicode Consortium.
Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
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The CampaignEvents extension is now available on Meta-wiki, Igbo Wikipedia, and Swahili Wikipedia, and can be requested on your wiki. This extension helps in managing and making events more visible, giving Event organizers the ability to use tools like the Event registration tool. To learn more about the deployment status and how to request this extension for your wiki, visit the CampaignEvents page on Meta-wiki.
Editors using the iOS Wikipedia app who have more than 50 edits can now use the Add an Image feature. This feature presents opportunities for small but useful contributions to Wikipedia.
A problem with the color of the talkpage tabs always showing as blue, even for non-existent pages which should have been red, affecting the Vector 2022 skin, has been fixed.
Future changes
The Trust and Safety Product team wants to introduce temporary accounts with as little disruption to tools and workflows as possible. Volunteer developers, including gadget and user-script maintainers, are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. The team has created documentation explaining how to do the update. Learn more.
Sorry dude, I bother ya too Much by asking help repeatedly
Well, I live in Pakistan and it just so happens to be that Wikimedia commons is banned here, so I have to upload images directly on english wiki so I've uploaded some files like
The source which I give is Hebrew wiki but on Hebrew wiki it has been placed in multiple articles without any issue but on English wiki I've some difficulty in rationale (although I've provided one as Non free but it isn't the right one as IDF logos are somewhat of public domain/have their own fair use policy allowing all articles about IDF) if you can resolve this one image I'll get to know how to do that to others (more than like 20 images) Waleed (talk) 07:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This for example is an image by IDF spokesperson unit (same as the source provided by me) and it can be used for all IDF linked pages
M Waleed I'm not too surprised that you ran into this kind of problem on English Wikipedia. The different Wikipedias each have their own policies and guidelines regarding fair use content, and English Wikipedia happens to be one of the more strict ones (I assume Hebrew Wikipedia is a bit more lenient with fair use rationale). Unfortunately, I do not have much experience in this area, but I think the people at WP:IMAGEHELP might be able to help you.
As for the Commons ban, there may be ways around that. First, is it illegal to bypass the ban? Second, is it legal to use a VPN in Pakistan? If the answer to both questions is no, then you might consider using a VPN to access Commons and any other inaccessible Wikimedia projects. Most open proxy IPs are blocked on sight, however, so you would likely need an IP block exemption to use a VPN (see c:Commons:IP block exemption). This is how many Chinese Wikipedia editors are able to contribute, so it may work for you as well. - ZLEAT\C08:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But one thing surprises me here is that the image in my reply although CC 3.0 is able to be put on other pages without any problem so how's that and secondly VPN although legal in Pakistan is temporarily being shut down (Along with Social media) for the upcoming Ashura due to security concerns Waleed (talk) 09:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikimedia developers can now officially continue to use both Gerrit and GitLab, due to a June 24 decision by the Wikimedia Foundation to support software development on both platforms. Gerrit and GitLab are both code repositories used by developers to write, review, and deploy the software code that supports the MediaWiki software that the wiki projects are built on, as well as the tools used by editors to create and improve content. This decision will safeguard the productivity of our developers and prevent problems in code review from affecting our users. More details are available in the Migration status page.
The Wikimedia Foundation seeks applicants for the Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC). This group will bring technical contributors and Wikimedia Foundation together to co-define a more resilient, future-proof technological platform. Council members will evaluate and consult on the movement's product and technical activities, so that we develop multi-generational projects. We are looking for a range of technical contributors across the globe, from a variety of Wikimedia projects. Please apply here by August 10.
Editors with rollback user-rights who use the Wikipedia App for Android can use the new Edit Patrol features. These features include a new feed of Recent Changes, related links such as Undo and Rollback, and the ability to create and save a personal library of user talk messages to use while patrolling. If your wiki wants to make these features available to users who do not have rollback rights but have reached a certain edit threshold, you can contact the team. You can read more about this project on Diff blog.
Next week, functionaries, volunteers maintaining tools, and software development teams are invited to test the temporary accounts feature on testwiki. Temporary accounts is a feature that will help improve privacy on the wikis. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page. [36]
Editors who upload files cross-wiki, or teach other people how to do so, may wish to join a Wikimedia Commons discussion. The Commons community is discussing limiting who can upload files through the cross-wiki upload/Upload dialog feature to users auto-confirmed on Wikimedia Commons. This is due to the large amount of copyright violations uploaded this way. There is a short summary at Commons:Cross-wiki upload and discussion at Commons:Village Pump.
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Stewards can now globally block accounts. Before the change only IP addresses and IP ranges could be blocked globally. Global account blocks are useful when the blocked user should not be logged out. Global locks (a similar tool logging the user out of their account) are unaffected by this change. The new global account block feature is related to the Temporary Accounts project, which is a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors that are no longer made public.
Later this week, Wikimedia site users will notice that the Interface of FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") is improved and consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface and Wikimedia's design system. The FlaggedRevs interface experience on mobile and Minerva skin was inconsistent before it was fixed and ported to Codex by the WMF Growth team and some volunteers. [37]
Wikimedia site users can now submit account vanishing requests via GlobalVanishRequest. This feature is used when a contributor wishes to stop editing forever. It helps you hide your past association and edit to protect your privacy. Once processed, the account will be locked and renamed. [38]
Have you tried monitoring and addressing vandalism in Wikipedia using your phone? A Diff blog post on Patrolling features in the Mobile App highlights some of the new capabilities of the feature, including swiping through a feed of recent changes and a personal library of user talk messages for use when patrolling from your phone.
Wikimedia contributors and GLAM (galleries, libraries, archives, and museums) organisations can now learn and measure the impact Wikimedia Commons is having towards creating quality encyclopedic content using the Commons Impact Metrics analytics dashboard. The dashboard offers organizations analytics on things like monthly edits in a category, the most viewed files, and which Wikimedia articles are using Commons images. As a result of these new data dumps, GLAM organisation can more reliably measure their return on investment for programs bringing content into the digital Commons. [39]
Project Updates
Come share your ideas for improving the wikis on the newly reopened Community Wishlist. The Community Wishlist is Wikimedia’s forum for volunteers to share ideas (called wishes) to improve how the wikis work. The new version of the wishlist is always open, works with both wikitext and Visual Editor, and allows wishes in any language.
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Have you ever wondered how Wikimedia software works across over 300 languages? This is 253 languages more than the Google Chrome interface, and it's no accident. The Language and Product Localization Team at the Wikimedia Foundation supports your work by adapting all the tools and interfaces in the MediaWiki software so that contributors in our movement who translate pages and strings can translate them and have the sites in all languages. Read more about the team and their upcoming work on Diff.
How can Wikimedia build innovative and experimental products while maintaining such heavily used websites? A recent blog post by WMF staff Johan Jönsson highlights the work of the WMF Future Audience initiative, where the goal is not to build polished products but test out new ideas, such as a ChatGPT plugin and Add a Fact, to help take Wikimedia into the future.
@ZLEA, Andrew Huynh (Myself) placed the petition on there for reasons, It's on Change.org. & you think it's spam, huh? Well, Go ahead then. You know that petitions aren't spam. That petition is for the Toyota Camry. & by the way A petition on Change.org began in November 2023 by Andrew Huynh, requested fans of the car to petition Toyota to bring the V6 back for model year 2026. By July 2024 it had received 252 signatures.[1]
There's your proof. It's on Change.org. But you must go to Change.org & search up what's on the Image I sent you It's on top of the Image. It says: "Put a V6 Engine in the Toyota Camry 9th Generation - Toyota." That's the Keywords on Change.org. 174.77.220.178 (talk) 21:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting your petition on Wikipedia is both WP:COI and WP:SPAM. I'll wish you luck in your attempts outside Wikipedia, but I'll stick with driving a Subaru. - ZLEAT\C21:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Feature news
Editors using the Visual Editor in languages that use non-Latin characters for numbers, such as Hindi, Manipuri and Eastern Arabic, may notice some changes in the formatting of reference numbers. This is a side effect of preparing a new sub-referencing feature, and will also allow fixing some general numbering issues in Visual Editor. If you notice any related problems on your wiki, please share details at the project talkpage.
Bugs status
Some logged-in editors were briefly unable to edit or load pages last week. These errors were mainly due to the addition of new linter rules which led to caching problems. Fixes have been applied and investigations are continuing.
Editors can use the IP Information tool to get information about IP addresses. This tool is available as a Beta Feature in your preferences. The tool was not available for a few days last week, but is now working again. Thank you to Shizhao for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
There are new features and improvements to Phabricator from the Release Engineering and Collaboration Services teams, and some volunteers, including: the search systems, the new task creation system, the login systems, the translation setup which has resulted in support for more languages (thanks to Pppery), and fixes for many edge-case errors. You can read details about these and other improvements in this summary.
There is an update on the Charts project. The team has decided which visualization library to use, which chart types to start focusing on, and where to store chart definitions.
One new wiki has been created: a Wikivoyage in Czech (voy:cs:) [40]
Hey there, welcome to the 25th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 March 2024. We've got a ton of wonderful editors taking back their pitchforks today. Don't worry, for they come in peace, to forcibly fix and extend existing scripts you use with sheer passion. There's so many, them forks have got what's basically their own column now! gift us with some rows before it's too late Aaron Liu (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
An easily configurable script to add a link to the #p-vector-user-menu-overflow portlet with a name, target, and icon. This one should be a relatively easier one. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy rotting away on Celeste (video game).
After the ＲＩＩＪ update, Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin has a dismiss button that allows you to mark an item as read in one click and cycle to the next Watchlist item.
Lordseriouspig/StatusChangerImproved is just like Enterprisey's script, except you select your status from a dropdown instead of cycling through them with a button. The WMF operates out of car-centric infrastructure anyway. Shame!
Newly maintained scripts
Aaron Liu has created Duplinks from Evad37/duplinks-alt; his fork adds a config variable to automatically highlight duplicate links on the loading of any page where the portlet link would've appeared.
Tired of staring at a bunch of filtering text and waiting for darn filter logs to load? Msz2001/AbuseFilter analyzer can parse abuse filters into a visual syntax tree and evaluate locally on-demand!
Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences finds references with the same link and displays the number of them along with a button to add the {{duplicated citations}} tag under the references section. Being lazy has never been easier!
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Two new parser functions will be available this week: {{#dir}} and {{#bcp47}}. These will reduce the need for Template:Dir and Template:BCP47 on Commons and allow us to drop 100 million rows from the "what links here" database. Editors at any wiki that use these templates, can help by replacing the templates with these new functions. The templates at Commons will be updated during the Hackathon at Wikimania. [41][42]
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
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Editors who want to re-use references but with different details such as page numbers, will be able to do so by the end of 2024, using a new sub-referencing feature. You can read more about the project and how to test the prototype.
Editors using tracking categories to identify which pages use specific extensions may notice that six of the categories have been renamed to make them more easily understood and consistent. These categories are automatically added to pages that use specialized MediaWiki extensions. The affected names are for: DynamicPageList, Kartographer, Phonos, RSS, Score, WikiHiero. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match. Thanks to Pppery for these improvements. [45]
Technical volunteers who edit modules and want to get a list of the categories used on a page, can now do so using the categories property of mw.title objects. This enables wikis to configure workflows such as category-specific edit notices. Thanks to SD001 for these improvements. [46][47]
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Your help is needed to check if any pages need to be moved or deleted. A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages (due to Unicode issues or introduction of new namespaces/namespace aliases). The script tried to find appropriate names for the pages (e.g. by following the Unicode changes or by moving pages whose titles on Wikipedia start with Talk:WP: so that their titles start with Wikipedia talk:), but it may have failed for some pages, and moved them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/ instead. Your community should check if any pages are listed there, and move them to the correct titles, or delete them if they are no longer needed. A full log (including pages for which appropriate names could be found) is available in phab:P67388.
Editors who volunteer as mentors to newcomers on their wiki are once again able to access lists of potential mentees who they can connect with to offer help and guidance. This functionality was restored thanks to a bug fix. Thank you to Mbch331 for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 18 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
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The latest Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is available, and includes some highlights from Wikimania, an upcoming Language community meeting, and other news from the movement.
First, thank you for engaging in the discussion. Would you be willing to comment on my latest post (diff), as we are at something of an impasse and AndyTheGrump is not accepting myself plus DonFB as a majority consensus. A decider - either way - would help put this thing to bed. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 14:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Steelpillow I highly doubt that Andy would accept my take on this. It might be time for WP:3O from someone uninvolved in this discussion, or perhaps even WikiProject Aviation. - ZLEAT\C15:50, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Andy is not going to accept anything except multiple editors reverting him until WP:EDITWAR threatens. That was how it was settled last time, and that is the only way to do so this time. I am hopeful that you, DonFB and I now have enough common ground to repeat history. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 16:43, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And look where that got us now. I don't necessarily care whether the Whitehead No. 21 is included on the list at this time, but this cycle should not be continued. We have to find a way to settle it once and for all. I still think we should seek WP:3O or maybe hold a formal RfC. Whatever consensus forms from it, I will adhere to it. If Andy does not, then I suspect the matter will sort itself out quickly. - ZLEAT\C17:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was settled, he has resurrected it. We are now at the point where three of us form a clear consensus. Once we stop answering him back and get on with it, he can only make a fuss at his peril. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 18:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 June. It will be on all wikis from 6 June (calendar). [4][5]
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The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It was changed last week in some skins (Vector legacy and Minerva). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in Vector-2022. The developers are still considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
Done - ZLEA T\C 15:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Waleed (talk) 07:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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