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fractional calculus

It seems we have something in common :) I once thought up how one can find any complex power of the differential operator d/dx, when I was in 10th grade and hadn't heard of fractional calculus. I was quite surprised to find the field of fractional calculus.

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No I do not use any trnslator.What happens is I often mess up proper grammer as I am not a native English speaker!! This happens especially if I am writing fast (Which I do often)!!You are welcome to edit any mistakes you find. Dwaipayanc

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Re: this edit; what about WP:DABRELATED are you finding vague? It seems quite straight forward and easy to understand to me. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It does not preclude the nature of the edits which I made, at least according to my understanding. How descriptive does something have to be? See? -- Lindberg 19:22, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

No, not at all. The page is "Use". Is that term (not related terms, but that specific term) being described in your target articles? No, no they are not - only related terms are described in your target links. -- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:45, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Thank you. I have made some adjustments accordingly. If you or anybody takes issue with them, please make the appropriate edits or discuss the defect. -- Lindberg 20:09, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi! I notice that in some of the articles linked from List of ineffective cancer treatments you have been attributing statements about the promotion of treatments to the body that made them. While this may not matter much, there is perhaps a slight risk that it makes the statement seem as if it is just the opinion of the source, rather than something factual. The WP:ITA guidance applies because the promotion of ineffective cancer treatments is a fringe area: and as WP:ITA cautions: "be careful not to use in-text attribution carelessly to imply that only the named sources would agree".

You also removed the "see also" link to List of ineffective cancer treatments from the Venus flytrap article. Yet venus flytrap is used to make an ineffective cancer cure, and readers interested in this aspect should have a link so that they can discover more. As MOS:SEEALSO has it: "One purpose of 'See also' links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics". Because of that, I've put the see also link back.

If you want to discuss this further, I suggest posting to the Talk page of the relevant article, so we can get more eyes on these questions. Thanks - Alexbrn ^{talk|contribs|COI} 16:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote, "While this may not matter much, there is perhaps a slight risk that it makes the statement seem as if it is just the opinion of the source, rather than something factual." That is unfortunate but there are ways to address it, namely multiple citations and from sources that can prove, justify or elaborate upon their claims about the very climate of marketing or propaganda. By the way, truth is one thing, whereas verifiability is another, and Wikipedia seems to be more concerned about the latter. As well, the extent to which people (whomever) make untrue, pseudoscientific, fringe-like claims about health-keeping or healing methods be common knowledge is debatable unless those claims or myths are extremely popular. You wrote, "I suggest posting to the Talk page of the relevant article, so we can get more eyes on these questions." Alright. I will probably soon mention it there. And I would certainly hope more eyes could be gotten on the matter. -- Lindberg 17:09, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I suppose ideally we want verifiability (as WP requires) and truth. Fortunately, by using impeccable sources like the ACS and CRUK we can be confident on both counts. I don't think there's any dispute that these treatments are promoted as such is there? If there are sources that state otherwise, and so complicate this, we should of course take them into account ... Alexbrn ^{talk|contribs|COI} 17:17, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Add) By the way, purely out of interest I did a "real world" test for Kombucha by Googling for "kombucha cancer cure" to see whether there was a belief "out there" that it's a cancer cure. You might want to do the same - prepare to be horrified! Alexbrn ^{talk|contribs|COI} 17:23, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am horrified, but I have to remember that the Web is being dealt with. It is amazing how loose people can be with their use of the word "cure." That sort of thing is not allowed in other media, and wherever it might not be diligently enforced, some kind of tort complaint is probable to arise. You wrote, "I don't think there's any dispute that these treatments are promoted is there?" Is dispute required? Maybe. However, we could simply focus on products as it were that have both the attentions of ACS and CRUK, or the attentions of multiple like-organizations. Again, their specialties are medicine, not the tracking of other people's marketing and propaganda. --Lindberg 17:53, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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Regarding your MoS edit

As you accurately guessed, any edit to the primary manual of style --like any edit to a massively transcluded template-- is de facto controversial because of the number of pages it effects. More focused MoS's may not require the same care, but for the main one, always discuss first. --erachima talk 01:28, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What erachima said. --Rs chen 7754 01:30, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A concurrence? -- Lindberg 01:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

That is sound reasoning, but rather tactical. What is the worst that could happen? -- Lindberg 01:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Collaboration is the aim. Also, the reason for the SineBot posts above is that a signature must have a link, see WP:SIGLINK. Johnuniq (talk) 01:48, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion is a rather serious and caustic way to repair an edit. However, if it is standard operating procedure, one does what one has to do. -- Lindberg 01:53, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

The worst that could happen is that there's an existing consensus for another standard elsewhere, but nobody there notices your change for several months, by which point we have two different local standards that have become entrenched, and then it comes up at WP:FAR or some similar process and brings it to a screeching, grinding halt. In short, while the normal standard is "Be Bold" it's better to be cautious when it comes to changes with global impact.
As for being reverted, it's called Bold, Revert, Discuss for a reason and you shouldn't take offense at it. --erachima talk 02:00, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, thank you, erachima. -- Lindberg 21:41, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Signature-wise, your code should be something like [[User:Lindberg G Williams Jr|Lindberg]] <small>[[User talk:Lindberg G Williams Jr|talk]]</small>. --erachima talk 02:02, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add un-created categories to articles. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:54, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As pursuant to? --Lindberg 09:56, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

WP:CAT: "An article should never be left with a non-existent (redlinked) category on it. Either the category should be created, or else the link should be removed or changed to a category that does exist." Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:03, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, "People made notable by their deaths" is bound to be a controversial one, and should be discussed before being created. The same goes for some of the articles you've added it to, which seem inappropriate. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:59, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Everything is controversial.) Inappropriate? Which ones? --Lindberg 10:02, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

(No, it's not.) Please go to Wikipedia talk:Categorization and discuss your desired new category there. Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:05, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why not here? --Lindberg 10:09, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Because there are more people there than here, and the people there know more about the subject. Go there, please. Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:11, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The subject of notability as it functions and has functioned since the dawn of man? Or death? --Lindberg 10:15, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

O, categorization. While there may be some people with experience, there are quite likely zero experts available on the matter, as Wikipedia:Categorization and related pages are not in depth (requiring "expansion") despite containing multiple items. --Lindberg 10:44, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi,

I've removed the two changes you made to World War I and World War II, as I think they would tend to confuse readers - I think it's fair to say that as many people will speak "World War I" as "world war one" as would read it as "first world war", and that both forms are valid. Roman numerals doesn't appear to discuss this sort of use in any detail, as far as I can tell. Emphasising pronunciation also gives the impression that writing "First World War" is incorrect, which certainly isn't the case!

Thanks, & hope this explains the removal. Andrew Gray (talk) 20:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I should perhaps consult Wikipedia's Teahouse or the community behind Wikipedia's Manual of Style. Although, I'm sure that anything to be proposed will be seen as "instruction creep." --Lindberg 20:32, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

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