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New suggestions of impeachment

There is some nascent chatter that a planned House probe into the administration's COVID-19 response is actually the beginning of a second impeachment proceeding. Nothing from any reliable source yet, but just a head's up that editing of this article may become more active again. BD2412 T 18:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe the article should be "Efforts to convict..."--Jack Upland (talk) 21:18, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's best to remain consistent with the previous titles in this series. Also, impeachment is its own point of historical fact. Biographies of Bill Clinton, for example, will refer to him as an impeached president, not an acquitted president. BD2412 T 22:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is he has already been impeached. There is no article "Efforts to impeach Bill Clinton". Of course, the hoi polloi use "impeachment" to mean "boot out the bum". But we cognoscenti who write Wikipedia need to be more discerning. If there is another impeachment drive by the liberal lemmings, this will become even more confusing for the schoolchildren and taxi drivers that read this page. "Was he impeached or wasn't he?" I hear them cry in my mind's eye. "Why are they trying to impeach him again?" The purpose of Wikipedia is to inform and educate, not to bamboozle.--Jack Upland (talk) 10:12, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now they're trying to impeach him again. BD2412 T 05:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yep... Even though he only has a fortnight to go... Lemmings...--Jack Upland (talk) 00:44, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strictly speaking, even an impeachment leading to a post-presidency trial in the Senate could (in theory) result in a conviction and a prohibition against holding future office. This would, in turn, open up the 2024 election to a lot of potential Republican presidential candidates, so there are definitely those who would benefit politically from such an outcome. BD2412 T 04:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If new efforts arise during second presidency, should we separate that into its own article ?

I think in the scenario that significant efforts arise in his second presidency: we should have a separate articles for those

This article is LENGTHY

And any efforts in his second presidency will involve a new congress (at minimum four-years removed from his previous presidency), and will likely pertain to separate matters.

I propose some split between the presidencies if such efforts arise.

This article might be re-titled something like Efforts to impeach Donald Trump during his first presidency while efforts in a second presidency might eventually populate Efforts to impeach Donald Trump during his second presidency

Early-on, efforts this second presidency might be best initially relegated to a sub-section in the main article of the presidency, only spun-off to a separate article when there is more to write about SecretName101 (talk) 20:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have not done so for previous two-term presidents (Efforts to impeach George W. Bush; Efforts to impeach Barack Obama), so I see no reason to expect this to be different. It's a bridge we can cross if we come to any actual change in circumstances in the future. BD2412 T 20:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like this is almost assured thing to happen, noting that obviously don't change anything yet, as its still wp:crystal. The efforts against George W. Bush and Barack Obama were, comparatively, much more minor, never really reaching beyond the "tilting at windmills" phase. The most supported of the four resolutions to launch an inquiry against Bush earned only 38 co-sponsors. And from the Obama impeachment article "Obama was the first president since Jimmy Carter to not have any articles of impeachment referred against him to the House Judiciary Committee". I would support a split to Efforts to impeach Donald Trump (first presidency) and Efforts to impeach Donald Trump (second presidency), considering the gap in time and length. There's also the argument to be made, however, that this article should be much trimmed down and serve more as a list (although i don't know if i'd support change to an actual MOS:LIST format) of impeachment efforts. An impeachment (i.e. the standard for a stand alone article which is an actual impeachment resolution passing the House) seems unlikely in the 2025-2027 term, however it seems likely in the 2027-2029 term considering the party in the White House usually loses control of the House in the midterms. Should the new article be titled Third impeachment of Donald Trump, or should all Trump impeachment articles be retitled, say, by year? This is far, far, far in crystal territory, though, but actually needs to be considered if we are going to be making these changes to this article when the first resolutions are introduced, which it wouldn't surprise me if they are introduced immediately on January 3 2025 (first day of new term). </MarkiPoli> <talk /><cont /> 03:53, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]