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Live Person Bio

Resolved. Article protected. -epicAdam(talk) 15:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I have a dispute with someone regarding biographical information that affects me. The other party will not compromise. Is there a way to resolve the dispute? WikiTrivia (talk) 04:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

It's hard to provide relevant advice without knowing which article it's on...Someguy1221 (talk) 04:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. It would be more useful to point to the page in question and an indication of the issue. Tony Fox (arf!) 04:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)--
Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Carney_(American_football) Someone appears to be claiming my son as their son and has also posted personal attacks and legal threats against me and changed my entry.WikiTrivia (talk) 20:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Looks like it's under control at this point; the article's been protected and admins are on it. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

re "Mark to Market" entry

Hi Wiki, Be prepared for a lot of activity on this section. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_to_market>

A network radio host, Dave Ramsey, is advocating listeners lobby their congress members toward the technique.

Reading the wiki entry one learns the strategy is what caused many financial collapses in history, so there will doubtless be much discussion and alteration accordingly.

My Best, David Grace —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.203.231.58 (talk) 19:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

i want to edit i want to edit

Resolved. More of a comment than a question, but answered nonetheless. -epicAdam(talk) 15:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Please i want to edit something in wikipedia's topic muhammad please give me authority ...Please...! IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE DO NOT PLAY WITH SENTIMENTS / RELIGION OF OTHERS.


thaks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tester.me (talkcontribs) 10:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello and thank you for coming here for help. Let me start off by answering your question: semi-protected articles (like Muhammad) are only editable by users with accounts that are "4 days old and have made at least 10 edits". In other words, you need to wait four more days before you can edit the article to which you refer. However, I ask you to please read the manual of style because all of your edits seem to be related to "PBUH" and "صلى الله عليه وسلم" and "رضی اللہ عنہا". These edits will always be removed and your time will be wasted. You must follow the manual of style. The manual of style is what we use to decide how names/places will be written. Thank you. ~a (usertalkcontribs) 12:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
More specifically, perhaps, WP:MOSISLAM#Muhammad. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


One Tribe Creative

Hello, my name is David Welch and I work at One Tribe Creative [1]. Taking suggestions from editors that have helped me in the past, I have added references to One Tribe Creative's page to help its notability.

Is there any Wikipedians who can improve the writing on the page to foster a removal of the advertisement template?

Also, is there any editors who can review the references to see if the notability/conflict of interest templates can be removed? It would be much appreciated, and if there is anything else I can do, I would be more than willing to help. Thank you and forgive me if I have missed any wikipedia etiquette guidelines. Dreamguru1632 (talk) 14:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes I can attempt to clean up the article you're referring to. Before I do, however, do you have any links to reliable sources that are independent of the One Tribe Creative company? In other words, I'm looking for something that isn't an OTC website and something that isn't a press release or from a promotional or marketing department that I can use to verify the information you've provided on the article. What would be even more useful would be some information critical of the company (or at the very least, neutral). ~a (usertalkcontribs) 15:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I've briefly looked over a web search, and sadly it appears that most of what I could find were press releases (I found this link especially interesting). I have a bad feeling that this article is probably not going to pass notability guidelines on what articles belong on Wikipedia. In other words, there is a chance that the article will get deleted pending potential future "notability" (as defined by the link above) of OTC. ~a (usertalkcontribs) 15:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Article Assistance Request

Resolved. Asked and answered. -epicAdam(talk) 15:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia:

We are attempting to create a Wikipedia Page for Lou Stanasolovich who is founder, CEO and President of Legend Financial Advisors, Inc. in Pittsburgh, PA. Our company Web site is www.legend-financial.com. We are having difficulty once we have created the page, it is being deleted and we are not sure what we are doing wrong. We are putting in descriptive content that uses a neutral point of view and we believe we are complying with Wikipedia's editorial guidelines. We are primarily seeking to post factual biopgraphical information about Mr. Stanasolovich. Mr. Stanasolovich is a highly regarded and an extremely accomplished financial advisory professional who is frequently sought after by the national media and industry conferences to speak about various topics. Our goal is to create a short, factual Wiki about him as his name is often searched upon in search engines due to the media recognition he receives. We have noticed that a friend of our in the financial advisory profession, Harold Evensky has successfully built a Wiki article and we were attempting to model Lou's after his but it still got deleted. Could you please advise us as to how we can mold the content a certain way in order to create and sustain the article? Also, is there a Wiki customer service contact person we could speak with directly by telephone if we continue to experience problems? We are excited about being part of the Wikipedia community to provide objective information about one of the most prominent figures in the financial advisory profession. Please advise.

Best Regards,

Christopher J. Kail Legend Financial Advisors, Inc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LFA061807 (talkcontribs) 15:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

First, any article must meet Wikipedia's notability standards. In essence, the information provided in the article must be referenced to reliable, third-party sources (e.g. mainstream newspapers, books, magazines, etc.) Second, the Wikipedia community frowns on users creating articles on subjects with whom they have a close personal relationship (see Wikipedia's guideline on Conflict of Interest). In these instances, you may wish to make a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles for another editor to create the page for you. For future communications on talk pages like these, don't forget to sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically add your user name. Best, epicAdam(talk) 15:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
EpicAdam is correct, any article needs reliable sources, otherwise it will be deleted. The article on Harold Evensky has only survived this far because it has citations (although I would question the reliability of some of them).
In answer to your other question about a customer service phone number: I don't believe there is one (since Wikipedia doesn't have "customers"), at least not for the problem you are having. In most cases, reading our policies and guidelines is enough to clear up how Wikipedia works. But I think the page of most assistance to you would be Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?. You may find other options for contacting Wikipedia here. Hope this helps. -kotra (talk) 23:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Problem with anonymous contributor

Resolved. IP user apparently stopped after warned. -epicAdam(talk) 15:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I've created and edit a page on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Really_Simple_Systems. First of all I should declare a conflict of interest, but I've tried to keep the page reasonably neutral. Also, I realised that it is neither "my" page nor the company's, but the community's.

Over the last few months an anonymous contributor has on three occasions placed what I would call negative comments on the page. You can see them in the history. I presume that if there is a question of fact or editorial line then this could be solved by a dialogue between us, but the contributor is anonymous. I've reversed the changed out each time, but somehow I don't think this can be the perfect solution.

What should I do? Is there a policy/protocol/procedure for this?

Thanks! John Paterson JacPaterson (talk) 15:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. If you get into an "Edit War" with a user, he or she could be found in violation of the Three-edit Revert Rule, which can lead to a temporary block. The best thing to do is a leave a note on the user's talk page, even though the user is anonymous. You'd be surprised how many people stop or at least discuss their edits once they know the page is actually being monitored. Of course, negative criticism is allowed, as long as it is sourced. As for the page specifically, I would make sure the article has inline citations. That way, there's no question as to the sourcing or validity of the information. Best, epicAdam(talk) 15:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Jayen Varma

Dear Sirs, I am deleting the following line from the page Jayen Varma as was informed.

{ He is considered to have invented this unique style of playing bass.[citation needed] }

There are certain private links to prove the fact, but those may not be a solid proof for World's best wikipedia's standerd.

However I am thankful to you for editing the page for me to make it perfect. In this context I request you to please make the page alright by removing the 'editing suggestions' placed there on top of it. I hope that all other details in the page are with enough and more proof.

Thanking you

yours sincerly

Jayen varma —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayenvarma (talkcontribs) 02:23, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Dear Sirs, Kind reference is invited to the following link where a World Record in Bass Guitar is announced. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayen_Varma

I wish to frakly admit and inform that I am not familiar to edit it as per the Wikipedia Guidlines. However, this is a World Record already declared. The reference is http://www.recordholdersrepublic.co.uk/recordholdersdetails.asp?id=484 This has already been given as 2nd external link in the page. Other links also substantiate the facts. In case of any doubt, I reuest you to please search for 'World Record Fastest Percussive Bassist'.

I am therefore to inform your goodself that I am not proceeding further to edit it since I am not familier with it.

If you are satisfied with the proofs, kindly approve the page after due editing. Otherwise, I have no objection for this page to be deleted. I am glad to inform that the next generation will follow this new technique and methos of playing Bass Guitar, since many Bassists accross the World have already started adapting the new Slap Bass style.

With Due Respect to Wikipedia

Jayen Varma

World Record Bassist

India —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayenvarma (talkcontribs) 03:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Resolved. Asked and answered. -epicAdam(talk) 15:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Bored, I did a search for my name (haven't you? no? ...I guess I'm just vain then) and came upon Kotra (producer). I noticed the article wasn't in very good shape (poorly formatted, lack of citations, perhaps promotional tone), but since my name is kotra, I wasn't sure if I should edit the article myself (whenever I see a person's bio being edited by someone with the same name, it sets off alarms for me). The same problems are present on related articles Kvitnu, Kvitnu Fest, Detali Zvuku festival, Live Reports, Zavoloka, etc (basically, all articles created by User:Miniloka, of which there appear to be many). My request is basically, could someone tag these articles appropriately? Even better if they could be improved, but I'll be happy to just see them tagged so other editors can know they need work. Thanks! -kotra (talk) 23:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I think you're pretty safe on this one. As long as your edits are neutral and supported by third-party sources, it would be hard for anybody to claim otherwise. Best, epicAdam(talk) 03:17, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I still would feel awkward editing those pages, since I think Miniloka is likely related to the other Kotra. But thanks for your response. -kotra (talk) 00:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Help with warring edits -- on my own talk page!

Resolved. Asked and answered. -epicAdam(talk) 15:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I am having a problem with a contributor who has repeatedly vandalized my page, including abusive remarks and putting remarks in rather random places on my talk page. This dispute arises from a similar edit war in the article on "Martin Anderson Controversy" which is under mediation by Phil Knight. At this point, she is now removing posts from my discussion page without my permission. Since her comments, in general, will likely end up being an issue for later mediation, I prefer that her behavior remain visible and documented on my talk page. Is there a way to freeze my talk page or ban her from editing it until the Martin Anderson Controversy mediation is finalized?

Thanks!

billo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Billollib (talkcontribs) 01:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for posting here. I have reported the users actions to Administrator Intervention against Vandalism as this user has received multiple warnings to stop. If the user continues to vandalism your personal talk page in the future, please report it there. Best, epicAdam(talk) 16:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

slander

Resolved. Mendaliv 02:37, 3 October 2008

Need some assistance as somebody has continually slandered my career on one of your pages. I have gone in and deleted the comments, but I still would like the history erased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redguy999 (talkcontribs) 07:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Dealing with articles about yourself and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I looked at your contributions, and you don't seem to have edited any pages other than this one. What is the title of the article with the factually inaccurate information in it? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 10:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
The account was created 2 minutes before posting here. You can discuss the problem in private if you want by following links from Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Appears to have been resolved; the article in question was Sandro Corsaro. Vandalism reverted, but not removed from editing history. Looks like FisherQueen handled the user. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 02:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Creating a bio - error message, blacklist?

Resolved. Asked and answered. -epicAdam(talk) 15:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello,

I am trying to create a biography page about a living individual who is a financial innovator in using tax credits to finance sustainable (green) buildings in low income communities. A small niche, perhaps, but interesting to some.

When I try to start the page, I get the following error message:

Unauthorized From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The page title that you have attempted to create has been included on the local title blacklist, which prevents it from being used due to abuse. If you have a good reason for creating a page with this title, or if you receive this message when attempting to edit an existing page, please let us know at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Be sure to specify the exact title of the page you are trying to create or edit, as well as a brief explanation of what you were trying to do. Thank you.

I am trying to find out what the "blacklist" is, how the person's name is on it, how to get it removed if it is unwarranted, and how to create this biography successfully.

I look forward to your assistance,

C. Smith Cesmith111urban (talk) 12:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

The message is at MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-forbidden-edit. Note it has clickable links on local title blacklist where there is information and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard where you can post a request. What is the title? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

The bio I was attempting (this got the error message) is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lozano. I tried, alternatively, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorrisLozano. Cesmith111urban (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't see a blacklisting of those titles. Please copy the exact url in the browser address bar at the time you see the message. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lozano redirects to Mario Lozano (soldier). An article about Norris Lozano should include a space and be created at Norris Lozano (but only if Wikipedia:Notability (people) is satisfied). PrimeHunter (talk) 13:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I read the work about the soldier, too. The URL that shows when the error message appears is: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorrisLozano&action=edit

Is it possible that I'm just entering the address wrong - without a space? All I did was view a page for "Socrates" and paste in Lozano (and the NorrisLozano) in for Socrates' name.

Can you help me understand what to do next to create this bio? I think I just need to get over this hurdle and I'm good to go. Thanks

Cesmith111urban (talk) 22:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

You need to click here and create your article in the window before saving it. This will create an article named 'Norris Loranzo' with a space/underscore. Be sure to have read up on notability guidelines and other help on creating articles. If you are new to editing you would be best to create the article somewhere in userspace (i.e. on your user page or a sub page of it - for example in User:Cesmith111urban/scratchpad) to get the bones of it complete before copying and pasting it into the first link I gave you, else you may risk your work being canabalized/speddily deleted before you can get it into a good enough state to survive the wilds of WP. Mfield (talk) 23:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


Excellent! Cesmith111urban (talk) 00:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Profanity on discussion board by Rationalist22

Resolved. Content dispute taken to article talk page. -epicAdam(talk) 15:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

If you go to this article -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Abhinav_Bindra#Abhinav_Bindra_-_a_Sikh

The user Rationalist22 had edited content to abuse an individual, his version is

09:07, 26 September 2008 Rationalist22 (Talk | contribs) (21,299 bytes) (→Abhinav Bindra - NOT a sikh) (undo)

Request you to please ban the user Rationalist22. He has been adding unverifiable content to Abhinav Bindra's Wiki. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.121.21.2 (talk) 13:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

This seems to be more of a content dispute than anything else. I took a look at Rationalist22's comments, and while some of them are not very nice, I wouldn't consider the comments to be profane or abusive. The content added to the article Abhinav Bindra is indeed referenced in other sources. I have edited re-added the information along with inline citations to the appropriate news references. Best, epicAdam(talk) 15:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


George Friedman

Resolved. Mendaliv//Δ's02:31, 3 October 2008

George Friedman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Links were cleaned up, could we please remove the Conflict of Interest banner? --Briantx90 (talk) 17:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)Briantx90

Any user is free to remove banners. I will say this, however, the article is largely unsourced. Those external links don't appear to cite all the information provided in the article, and some are dead. I would go back through and try to insert in-line citations to reference the facts in the article. Best, epicAdam(talk) 19:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
The user has apparently removed the CoI banner. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 02:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Gone Jackals & Keith Karloff Bio

Resolved. Asked and answered. -epicAdam(talk) 15:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi: I don't know why the authenticity of the GJ and KK bios are being challenged. I'd say they're accurate. If you could remove the "Stub" categorization, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks! Keith Karloff c/o BlueBlack Records —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.35.74.160 (talk) 05:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

It's not the authenticity of The Gone Jackals that is being disputed, as such, but its neutrality. It is an official policy here at Wikipedia that all articles are written from a neutral point of view. I don't know if you have edited this article, but obviously it is very difficult to maintain neutrality when writing about a subject you are personally connected to. (See Wikipedia:Autobiography). If you have edited of intend to edit this article, I suggest you create a user account and declare your interest on your user page. The other big problem with the article is that it is completely unreferenced. It needs citations to independent reliable sources. For example, newspaper articles or professional reviews. Basically, every disputable fact needs to be verifiable, to enable readers to find the original sources used in writing the article. Unreferenced material may be removed at any time. If you want to improve and develop the article, adding sources would be a very good start.--BelovedFreak 10:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Rugby union in 2008 edits from 203.97.240.127

Resolved. Asked and answered. -epicAdam(talk) 15:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, it is several days that from the page Rugby union in 2008 it is constantly erase a game schedule for November 2008.
The game is "Italy - Pacific Islanders 22/11/2008", and is correctly schedule for that day (one source is this: http://www.scrum.com/260_4321.php).
I've already undid it 7 times and try to comunicate with the user in the talk page. Unfortunatelly this edits has been done from an IP Address 203.97.240.127, and I don't know how to procede to make this edit stopped. Thanks for any advice. --Giskard (talk) 19:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Giskard. I can help you in several ways:
  • I'll look into the issue and see what I can do to work things out between the two of you.
  • Wikipedia has a 3RR rule, which says that it is best not to undo edits on the same page more than 3 times in a day. It's always better just to talk to the other editor about it. I'll try to help you get in contact with the other editor.
OK, just notice that my 7 Undid has been made across the last 2 weeks.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Cheers! SunDragon34 (talk) 21:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I almost forgot: Be sure to also leave a note about the issue on the article's talk page. It is there so editors can talk about improvements to the article. Cheers! SunDragon34 (talk) 21:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, I've left a message in the discussion page of Rugby union in 2008 and I don't revert the last edits, so I'll wait to see what will happen. Thank for you help!! --Giskard (talk) 18:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


There has been a heated discussion regarding whether or not a list for non-playable characters for the article Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (see here). This is not the first time this group of editors has clashed heads with each other, and given this is regarding Sonic the Hedgehog, I believe this and other issues with this article alone will easily escalate. What else can be done here before climbing up the WP:DR ladder? MuZemike (talk) 06:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Janelle Pierzina

Resolved
 – User:HairyHannah and User:71.200.22.228 are clearly the same person using two single-purpose accounts to attempt to avoid violating 3RR while not obtaining consensus or engaging in discussion. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 14:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I've been involved in an edit war on this page with another user. We've both already been blocked several times for violating WP:3R, and I'd like to avoid a repeat, but the other party has not responded to requests on her talk page or the article's discussion page to explain changes. I am willing to get a third opinion if that's the next step, although I'm not sure how a neutral observer can hear both sides if only one is will to speak. Please advise on how to proceed. BaldPete (talk) 15:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for posting here. I have taken a look at your edits and left specific comments on the article's talk page. If another user is unwilling to communicate with you, then the only thing that can be done is to continue to revert the edits, or have other editors do it for you to avoid violating 3R yourself. Each 3R violation will typically result in a stronger penalty. It's possible that continued revisions to an article by adding unsourced material or blanking sourced material could be considered persistent vandalism, which could potentially lead to a user ban. Other than that, there's not much else that can be done. However, do see my comments on the article's talk page as well. Best, epicAdam(talk) 16:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I've issued a 1 month block to both User:HairyHannah and User:71.200.22.228 for this behavior. Thank you for looking into the details, epicAdam, and filing a report at WP:AN3. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 14:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Article/Blurb pages

Resolved. Asked and answered. -epicAdam(talk) 16:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone explain what /Blurb pages are - e.g. List of Archbishops of Canterbury/Blurb, List of Alpha Phi Alpha brothers/Blurb, List of Canadian provincial and territorial orders/Blurb etc. They've started showing up in WP:NEEDCAT, and I'm not sure how (or if) to categorise them - or even if they should exist.... Thanks. CultureDrone (talk) 11:57, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure this has been activated yet, but the apparent intent of these pages is to set up blurbs from various past featured lists for display at Portal:Featured content. Each time you visit there a blurb from a different featured list will display randomly. Some information is at Wikipedia talk:Featured lists#Featuring 'featured' lists. If you need more targeted information, you could contact User:CBDunkerson who is spearheading this. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks :-) CultureDrone (talk) 13:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

alwaystouchout.com

Resolved. More of a comment than a question. -epicAdam(talk) 18:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I was working on a newly created page, alwaystouchout.com, when an admin (User:Marasmusine) asked me to provide evidence of importance. I had hardly enough time to do this (I was hoping to ask around at a WikiProject I am part of for which this site would be very familiar) and before I even have the chance to work on the page, I find it deleted. This is very bad. The only sense of importance here is the self-importance of this deletion-happy admin. I am not pleased at all.  — MapsMan talk | cont ] — 13:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Articles which have no sources verifying the information content (not optional), and don't indicate any importance can be deleted at any time if they are about certain subjects within the ambit of CSD A7 which this article was. In this case the admin contacted you, which he did not need to do, and actually moved the article to a subpage of your user space so you could work on it until you had a version that was ready to go live. He provided the link to that subpage on your talk page. The jibe against him is unwarranted.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for editing.

Resolved. Merged threads. Article sent to AfD -epicAdam(talk) 18:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Dear Sirs, Kindly visit the link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayen_Varma

I had requested on 26th Sep 2008 to help me edit the page as per Wikipedia rules. Now I am thankful to see that the page is properly edited. However the INSTRUNCTIONS/INFORMATIONS to edit the page is still there on top of the edited matter. I once again request to please delete the said instructions/informations, duly approving the page on the basis of the Official World Record reference link already provided. Thanking you Regards Jayen varma India —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayenvarma (talkcontribs) 19:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I had the opportunity to look into this, and have some concerns that the article in question may not be notable; thus, I've submitted it for an Articles for Deletion discussion. Please feel free to weigh in there. Tony Fox (arf!) 21:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Sirs, I once again find that one more Deletion Notice is posted on the page Jayen Varma ( link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayen_Varma ). I wish to infirm that the page contains only FACTS. This has also been provided with link containing proof. However, If there is concern about this page, I have no objection in deleting the page since it was me who created this. I will be thankful if it is edited by a third person according to Wikipedia rules. IT IS NOT jayen varma THAT MATTERS, BUT IT IS A NEW GENRE MUSIC, A UNIQUE STYLE OF PLAYING BASS GUITAR, A NEW TECHNIQUE IN BASS GUITAR, AN INVENTION IN BASS PLAYING AND ABOVE ALL A WORLD RECORD, THAT MATTERS. Thanks and Regards Jayen Varma —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayenvarma (talkcontribs) 00:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Resolved
 – An admin has reverted to an earlier version and semiprotected. TimidGuy (talk) 11:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

This had at one time been a fairly decent article. But a number of aggressive IP editors have really trashed it in the past month. Well, I guess I should assume good faith. Let's say that they have substantially altered it. These editors have limited command of English and apparently believe they are descended from Neanderthals. (Unfortunately, I"m not kidding.) They have been eager to rewrite the article so that it's skewed toward the view that Neanderthals didn't in fact go extinct. Their weak English and their use of technical terminology has rendered much material incomprehensible. Consider, for example, this sentence: "Some briging the oposithe debate, as deth and live, endpoints using partialy adequate language to soften the argumentation: as Hybridization which cannot be used to genealogy, fate which is is: unfavorable destiny; doom ) etc. Eg." I enjoy this topic, and really wish I had time to work on this, but unfortunately my work commitments won't allow it. Hoping someone can help. TimidGuy (talk) 15:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

well if this is trash for Wikipedia:

  1. doi=10.1038/363252a0 PNAS
  2. doi=10.1038/nature02690
  3. doi=10.1073/pnas.0510005103
  4. doi=10.1016/j.jhevol.2006.08.010
  5. doi=10.1016/j.cell.2008.06.021
  6. http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080807/full/news.2008.1026.html#B1
  7. doi=10.1038/sj.hdy.6800852
  8. doi=10.1371/journal.pgen.0020105
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