Talk:Slavery in Canada

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Modern Slavery?

Everything in the article ends with the banning of slavery in Canada, unfortunately that is not where slavery ended. Sexual slavery is a huge problem, especially amongst the native population. I'm a student and I am kind of busy at the moment but I could write up a small section on modern slavery in about a week from now if nobody with more experience is up to the task. Just csting this idea out there, it makes no sense to have a 'slavery in Canada' without even mentioning current forms of slavery. Seems revisionist or at least short sighted. Not Joey Clavette (talk) 21:37, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and created the section. It's admittedly a little shakey but I thought it was important to have one. I ask that anyone who finds a problem with it not remove it completely but fix what problems you see and I wouldn't mind being consulted about it and coming to conclusions through debate. Not Joey Clavette (talk) 23:06, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Modern, illegal forms of slavery are pretty different than the traditional legalized form of slavery that most readers come to an article like this to look for. In my opinion this article is about that traditional legalized, nationwide form. It seems out of place to call out "sexual slavery" in the first paragraph of an article about slavery in Canada, when it is explicitly illegal in Canada and shares little in common with historical concepts of slavery based on ethnicity. It's easy to identify those types of slavery because they happen to large swaths of a population almost universally, like blacks in the US or Jews in Egypt. Women or men are not, in general, subject to sexual slavery in Canada. If you're going to add this topic out of a sense of social justice you might as well add a section on "economic slavery" for all the minimum-wage workers in Canada. I respectfully submit that adding these topics are not relevant to this article, even if they have respectable social justice motives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.245.227.189 (talk) 05:24, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cooper's Hanging of Angelique

Her analytical narrative is an interpretation of history, a list of probabilities calculated through an analysis of first person sources, and other then-contemporary sources. It is not fact, but an interpretation, a possibility. It can not be formatted as fact. I have altered the small article on this page giving Afua Cooper's views a more neutral tone. TheEndingDay (talk) 17:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC) Joe Caron[reply]

United Empire Loyalists

Did not some of the United Empire Loyalists being slaves to Canada with them? -- stewacide 06:27, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Yes. They brought black slaves along with them. -- Mathieugp 07:52, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Wage Slavery in Canada Today

Shouldn't this article mention the wage slavery conditions prevalent in Canada today? Such as the countless ads, for example on Craigslist (anytown) Canada, calling for 'live-in caregivers' where pay is $8.00/hr and they charge you rent? Slavery is alive and well today, only difference is you are paid just enough to scrape by--or less. Fore example say you live in Vancouver, BC and you work at any minimum wage job--8.00/hr, which after taxes nets you $1,000/mo. Oh--by the way a studio flat here costs $1,000/mo. so hope you have a trust fund to draw upon if you are paid anywhere near minimum wage in BC. Mountains here are nice though! I'm sure they're trying to figure out a way to charge us all for looking at them...we should have to pay a corporation for this privilege, shouldn't we? Yes, most definitely! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.7.5.132 (talk) 05:19, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While you may have a point to some degree, this is not a partisan communist website.

British aristocracy/Loyalist figures

have added two citation notes to the article. The first deals with the statement that members of the British aristocracy brought slaves to what is now Canada. Might it be possible to indicate who these aristocrats were? The second citation note concerns the figures on the number of slaves brought north during the American Revolution. I question the first number, that asociated with Nova Scotia, as it seems to reflect the number of freed slaves that settled in the colony. The other numbers also seem suspect. More to the point, the numbers simply don't match. The first paragraph in the "Under British rule" section indicates that loyalists brought approximately 2000 slaves to British North America, yet the second paragraph states that the British owned 1400 slaves. Victoriagirl 03:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DIdn't the Haida and Tlingit practice what was essentially chattel slavery? The children of their slaves were automatically slaves too, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.83.138.204 (talk) 06:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC) LOL.. my family has been here forever and slavery was not part of our system… Only if you committed a crime would you have pay or service anther that’s why we did not have jails here…. We also had boarders marketed in the bush....for area law...we all knew each other... we also ran the biggest military here on the continent for eons... it’s the newcomers who would not abbey the law… That’s why slavery did not take here you would get in trouble with us…[reply]

its ok but slavery isnt

ok well kdikdikdi keldile —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.224.31 (talk) 19:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

February 2013

I moved this from the article page, as it seems to be more a point for discussion. I am not vouchsafing for the truth of any of this, but am simply moving and refactoring it.

"Black slaves lived in the British regions of Canada in the 17th and 18th centuries — 104 were listed in a 1767 census of Nova Scotia, but their numbers were small until the United Empire Loyalist influx after 1783. As white Loyalists fled the new American Republic, they took with them about 2000 black slaves". — The last sentence of this entry is inaccurate. The majority of the 2000 blacks were 'former' slaves who had been granted their freedom by the proclamation of John Murray, Lord Dunmore, on the 7th of November 1775. Dunmore was the last colonial governor of Virginia. Therefore these individuals came to Nova Scotia as Loyalists in their own right and not as the property of white Loyalists. User: Sjameswhiteland (talk}

7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:12, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding a section on Lower Canada (Quebec), and reference to Monk and court decisions there.

I'm adding a section as strangely this article neglects any mention of Lower Canada or Quebec (I also note it's a bit anachronistic to refer to Ontario here as it was, I believe, still known as Upper Canada when Simcoe governed. But this is just a start. Note it's been a while so help with formatting and citations, etc., welcome. I've put them in but probably not in the best format. Gregalton (talk) 09:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]