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Hey I'm looking for some help

Just started first article "List of Canadian ufc fighters" and I have been trying to get it done. But it is my first article so I'm bit confused on how some of the links and stuff works. It says my article is orphaned and I need to add more links but I'm not to sure how to do that:/ I see u edit some ufc stuff think you can help me? Got these one the page This article currently links to a large number of disambiguation pages (or back to itself) (check | fix).Please help direct these ambiguous links to articles dealing with the specific meaning intended. Read the FAQ.(September 2019)

This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find link tool for suggestions.(September 2019)

Want to make sure it works good I tried to check some of the stuff out but in too tired for today. :/ any help would be appreciated Tsims23 (talk) 09:15, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tsims23, Greetings. Pls see the changes I made on the HW on table setting and I have added a ref column for example. (1) Pls remove all the links "double brackets" on Nick name section and (2) please add sources (inline citation) on the ref section of the info claimed in the row. (3) Lastly, I notice you copies and pasted some of the text from other articles in Wikipedia for such you need to give proper attribution - WP:PATT, in a dummy edit and in the article talk page, to the original author as they info you added is not your work. Once you have done that, pop back if you want me to review the article for you. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:06, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help I will try my best tomorrow to get things looking better and I'm not really to sure how the links work on here yet gunna watch some videos. And should I give refrence to all the wikipedia pages I used too and if so how would I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsims23 (talkcontribs) 10:14, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tsims23 For proper attribution - see WP:PATT. Make a dummy edit and state "proper attribution to original authors of xxx page, xxx page, xxx page. Do that the same in the article talk page . For references (inline citation) - use horizontal format of Template:Cite Web if the source is from digital/web. For more detail info then pls read referencing for instruction/info. Since most of the fighters do have pages in Wikipedia, you would find the sources easily on their page. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:01, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA, Im a bit confused on what this < br > is what should i be putting in there? and also i tried to like a like to Harold Howard in heavyweight but it keeps saying its a missing or empty title im confused, im looking at other fighter pages to see how they have theyre refs done it seems to work for them but not mine and i entered it the same way. Wikipedia has the most complete bio for this fighter do that's what was used for info as with most of the others, I also looked them up on sherdog the matches and organizations are there but sometimes doesnt give the note worth detail. sorry bout not editing soon has been unexpectedly busy lately. thanks again for the help (Tsims23 (talk) 20:38, 2 October 2019 (UTC))[reply]
Hi Tsims23, the "br" nested inside <> = line break. Pls see Help:Wikitext. For references, do read referencing /inline citation for info and instructions. For web source, you can use "horizontal format" Template:Cite Web. You can also use Wikipedia:VisualEditor to input the reference by just input the URL and it will filled the rest of the parameter/info accordingly. Please read Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide on how to set up Visual Editor and info.
I dont understand what you meant by "like to Harold Howard in heavyweight but it keeps saying its a missing or empty title". Kindly reword so I may help. I also added a column for ref on HW section. Pls input info of the content (the row) claimed. If you not sure how to do it, then give me the source (URL) of the content claimed and I will add the ref/inline citation in for you as an example. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
CASSIOPEIA sorry about that spellcheck I ment to say I tried to link a link to harold howard in the notes section(Can be seen as a little 8 at the end of the note). But when I did, it says it was an empty link or empty title(tried to also link another says same thing. They are at the bottom in references). I gave it one but I dont know it that's how its suppose to work. I'm using another wikipedia page for code refrence or I would have even come close to getting this far lol. I wanted to make a copy of this one just for canadians instead https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish_UFC_fighters . I was teting to enter references how they have them. They dont have a reference column. I am also gunna have to get another buddy to help me I think. Gunna see if i can try and understand some of this stuff :) Tsims23 (talk) 04:53, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tsims23 Thanks for the explanation, but I still not sure what issues you are facing exactly, but i have added a ref on Harold Howard to reflect the content claimed. Pls see the ref column. To add the source, as i say pls use "horizontal format" Template:Cite Web and read WP:REFB. Also Pls copy the table parameters on HW and replace them on the rest of the weight divisions. (remember to add an extra line starting with a pipe "|" for ref column". I hope I answer you questions. If not pls pop back here. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:26, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


CASSIOPEIA No worries and thank you for the help very much I will begin to enter references in the format you have displayed. And it's not much to worry about anymore but down in the reference tab you can see that i have one that says it has no title but I see what u did so I dont think that will be an issue. I do want to know tho how do I get it so that I can actually make this searchable on Google because I have to search it on wikipedia only. Just wondering that's what I'll be doing last basically. Just gunna try to finish it up asap I'll start adding refs tomorrow. Thanks again for the help :). Tsims23 (talk) 07:58, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tsims23 OK, pop back here if you need further help. I am always here. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:51, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA I have entered every fighter and just have to do minor edits if your free and willing think you can go over it and also help me so that when i search it on google it actually shows up. thx for ur help so far.
Tsims23 Greetings. what you provided are not independent source (sherdog/tapology/ufc/figther home page and etch as the sources are associated with the subjects). We are after independent, relable sources such as any manjor newspapers, mma junkie, mma figting, In the cage, ESPN mma, bloody elbow, Combate, Low Kick mma, MMA DNA, Sherdog (article pages and not the fighter databases/fight records), MMA Mad, Asia MMA, MMA Mania, MMA Suka, MMA Basil,Kimura.se and etc. Any way you would find the sources are from the fighters' pages, or you could search on Google just type "xxx fighter vs. xxx fighter results". Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:17, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA I know exactly what ur saying I plan on adding 2 references per person, I put the sherdog reference in as it is the first reference for every fighter profile on the site(I guess we use them as a reference to all mma stats on wiki) I do plan on entering more links I just disnt have the time the other day. Also wanted u to have a look over it just to make sure I didnt messup before I went and added another 98 references. Just wanted to make sure I wouldn't have to go back and fix too much :) however for some fighter sherdog is the only thing that they might have I'm talking bout the obscure fighters that dont yet have a wikipedia page. Most all of there notes that If listed(ex.Has 7 fight win streak), notable wins and appearances are all just from looking at sherdog. So I will have to wait till those guys get but more popular and get some news attention Tsims23 (talk) 19:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tsims23 Good day. First of all pls read Help:Wikitext which I have sent you earlier which would help you on "Wikipedia mark up text" on your editing and communication with other editors. Do add an extra ":" (one space indentation) from the previous message when replying on talk page for this is the common communication protocol for message thread. Secondly, you can link the the article for red link text by placing a "|" after the read text and place the exact page. Example UFC FN 23 you can either do this UFC FN 23 or UFC FN 23 (pls see in source editing mode). You can find all the UFC events here - List of UFC events. I have added extra column after the fighters' record so you may add the source (Sherdog) there. As for the second ref column (far right) you can put the source for specific info claimed for "Notes" or "Notable wins". Do copy the HW table template on the top and paste on all other divisions and add extra "|" after the "MMA record" on the table parameter (see HW for example). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:49, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. This was because i was translating it from the article present in the Spanish Wikipedia. KoreanDragon (talk) 13:01, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

KoreanDragon greetings. Just provide a few independent reliable sources of the content claimed and submit for review. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I provided two of them. KoreanDragon (talk) 13:18, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
KoreanDragon I have added a source and reviewed the article. Pls rework on "this URL as it is "not found" thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:42, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I helped to improve the page by adding two sources. CarlSeederson (talk) 22:21, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CarlSeederso, Greetings. Official website/home page/records/databases are not considered independent sources. Sources from newspapers are good source. Provide source for Liga Națională wins, European competitions Finalists: 1973, Third place: 1967, previous players and coachers. Also p pls provide sources that talk about the club. Sources can be in any languages and print sources are welcome. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Done now, it has now 2 newspapers sources plus a Romanian Handball Federation source (History of the Game with clubs and national teams, and notable players of the era). Everything is there. This club was the most prolific for 2 decades in Romania and finished 2nd and 3rd in European Champions Cup (actual EHF Women's Champions League).CarlSeederson (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CarlSeederson, Reviewed. The article just/barely meets the notability guidelines. I tried to find sources but just found game results and I dont read Balkan Romance language. I suggest you to find more sources and added them in to safeguard the page from nominated for deletion. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:31, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you said sources in any language. Google Translator works perfect with Romanian. Not just Liga Națională (women's handball) tells they won the 10 Romanian championship (with Romanian Handball Federation sources) but also the Women's EHF Champions League (and here the sources are taken from the European Handball Federation. It's also easy to translate with Google the two Romanian newspapers (I did that). It's still a team of the 60s and the 70s, but it's highly notable. It meets criteria even for participating in the Romanian first division. But they also won medals internally and internationally. Handball hits whole Europe, the EHF Champions League is like the NBA league of basketball. I tried to help. Cheers also! CarlSeederson (talk) 14:25, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CarlSeederson, yes sources can be any languages, and I did read the translated sources. However, the European handball Federation is considered non independent sources as it is associated with the subject. if you can find print source (60's 70's) then added them in if possible. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:44, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Found one

Dashon Johnson hasn't got a boxing or MMA record he has fought in the UFC. Dwanyewest (talk) 02:14, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dwanyewest 2 fights in UFC - fails WP:MMABIO. Havent check on WP:NBOX but I dont he meets that as well. Let me know if I have mistaken. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New message from LuK3

Hello, Cassiopeia. You have new messages at LuK3's talk page.
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-- LuK3 (Talk) 03:13, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

LuK3 Greetings. I have replied on your talk page. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:58, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism on article page Divya Dwivedi

Hi there CASSIOPEIA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divya_Dwivedi The subject is politically sensitive and there is vandalism on the page. Please place it under protection. There is an ongoing current event regarding the subject that is controversial. I will revert the vandalism now.Speculative Boting (talk) 05:14, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speculative Boting Greetings. The vandalized edit has been removed and editor was warned. Page can be protected if there is multiple editors makes vandalized edits. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you CASSIOPEIA. You are most vigilant! May be there won't be so many incidents but the page views jumped to nearly 3000 yesterday. Speculative Boting (talk) 05:40, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Speculative Boting Thank you for your kind comment and thank you for your contribution. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dear CASSIOPEIA
There is continuing troublesome edits on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divya_Dwivedi
There has been significant aggressive changes since https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divya_Dwivedi&oldid=920019654 this version. It includes ip edits and aggressive edits by a single user upon older content which had been reviewed by administrators. Could you please restore the article to a version before the aggressive edits began and place it under lock?Speculative Boting (talk) 04:31, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Speculative Boting pls read Talk:Divya Dwivedi. You need to read the said links and discussion the issue with the involved editor. WP:IS (independent ), WP:RS (reliable sources) and WP:NPOV (neutral point of view) need to be adhered so, pls follow the guidelines. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi CASSIOPEIA, I will do so. Thank you for the intervention and resolution. I hope that a solution can be reached quickly. Speculative Boting (talk) 05:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To review a new page

kindly review this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarvesh_Amte (User talk:shubhamghodke3904)

(talk page stalker)@Shubhamghodke3904:Has this person won any national or international level competitions?--PATH SLOPU 11:52, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This account(shubhamghodke3904) seems a sock of Sunilbutolia. Am I right?--PATH SLOPU 12:05, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Path slopu and Onel5969: I cant tell, but it is unusual for another editor to ask for other editor to ask for review of the article which is not created by them - see here by Sunilbutolia and now again by Shubhamghodke3904 who is the creator of the page. I includes Onel5969 here as Shubhamghodke3904 also ask Onel to review the page. Onel what is your take on this? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The editor of the page is (shubhamghodke3904) and I am asking to review just because it has many days since he created that page, previously I created page for Jayant Rajora (skater) both skaters are friends. ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 14:43, 6 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia[reply]
Sunilbutolia We have about 5.7K article waiting to be reviewed. So it is not usual for an article for the article not being review in the first month after the page is created. My question why both you asking for review on the same page? Do you know shubhamghodke3904? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:47, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know him personally, but he found me online. Take action as per wikipedia guidelines. Thank you, ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 16:03, 6 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia[reply]
Sunilbutolia What did you meant by "he found you online" pls elaborate on that. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:13, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi CASSIOPEIA He (Shubham Ghodke) found me on [Jayant Rajora] page then he searched my name on Google, he got my instagram ID on Google, then messaged me on instagram. I can show you screenshot. ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 00:58, 7 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia[reply]
Hi Sunilbutolia, I believe this - Jayant Rajora is the page you mentioned above. If not pls correct me. Also pls forward Instagram URL and screehot as you indicate above. Do you guys have any conversation outside Wikipedia about Sarvesh_Amte or other article? If so pls elaborate please. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Cassiopeia, I can't say that I get asked to review articles all the time, but it does happen occasionally. But you're right, this seems a bit unusual for an editor, other than the one who created the article, to ask for me to review it. I don't really have time to look into it over the next few days (you know that thing called real life), but methinks that Path slopu may be correct on this.Onel5969 TT me 02:39, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969 Thank for replying. Did not mean to ask you to review but just to inform you and seeked your thought since editor had asked you to review the article. Thanks again Onel for talking the time share your thought on this matter.03:13, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Onel5969:& CASSIOPEIA:-I suspected the accounts as socks on another reason also- didn't you noticed their signs? Its fonts and styles are too identical. It may not a reason because the styles may copied, but it creates a doubt. Regards.--PATH SLOPU 05:14, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Path slopu: I had noticed prior your message but thanks for pointing it out. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:21, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
look at this screenshot of 5th october,
File:7oct 2019 sunil.jpg
if you find nothing in this screenshot, then I would like to leave wikipedia. I am wondered how do you think about editors?
signature may be copied, I also copied mine from Hindi wiki (Admin Sanjeev) Thank you. ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 07:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbuto[reply]
@Sunilbutolia and Shubhamghodke3904:, It seems you guys are connected via some social media contact and I am not sure you both know each other as editor address each other as "brother". I would suggest both of you to communicate anything about Wikipedia in Wikipedia talk page / user talk page / article talk page / project talk page / etc. If you need help anything about editing, go to WP:Teahouse for help. For [[WP:Article for Creation] (draft page) - go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk and for general questions go to WP:Help desk, for technical questions go to Wikipedia talk:Village pump and you can type {{Help me|question}} on your talk page and an admin will answer your question at your talk page. Since I am involved in this discussion, I will not review the page but will leave it to other reviewer to look at the article. Kindly be patient as I mentioned before there are 5.7K articles in the reviewing pool at the moment and the average waiting period is about 5-8 weeks. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dear CASSIOPEIA, I am satisfied with your answer. I always request you and Onel5969 to review any page, Thank you, ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 09:01, 7 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia[reply]
@Sunilbutolia and Shubhamghodke3904:I agree with CASSIOPEIA, please try to confine discussions on Wikipedia in Wikipedia itself rather than other social media (only my opinion, its your choice). If you were mistaken as socks, I apologize. Discussions like this are usual in Wikipedia, it is only for conserving the policies. So don't worry, don't quit editing. I'm confining this discussion here. Also wait for the reviewing as CASSIOPEIA mentioned.--PATH SLOPU 13:03, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dear CASSIOPEIA i am extremely sorry, i had copied style of @Sunilbutolia:, so kindly forgive me.— Preceding unsigned comment added by an unknown user 01:06, October 8, 2019
Dear CASSIOPEIA i am sorry to take help outside of wikipedia , pls forgive me this time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by an unknown user 01:10, October 8, 2019
Shubhamghodke3904, Greetings. If you need help in Wikipedia, keep the conversation in Wikipedia. There are plenty of helpers in Wikipedia as long as you are civil, polite, many would land a hand to help you. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Dear CASSIOPEIA you are such a good soul, thanks for your valuable reply, i will follow as have you have suggested me. (User talk:shubhamghodke3904)
@Shubhamghodke3904:Hi greetings, I'd like to give a small advice too. Please sign with four tildes ~~~~ after your every posts on talk pages.-PATH SLOPU 14:51, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An award for you!

CVU Anti-Vandalism Award
This is for your excellent performance on saving Wikipedia from the harmful threats of vandalism. I appreciate your efforts and hardwork. You are a bold defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 11:38, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Path slopu Once again thank you and you are too kind. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:31, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
This is for your efforts in resolving conflicts in Wikipedia very peacefully. I appreciate it very much. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 14:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #385

15:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Help on discussion on naming

Talk:Jesus water miracle § Title Hi greetings, I am asking you for a help. If you like please consider this discussion about the naming of an article. The article is about a hoax. Your suggestions may help. Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 15:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

G13 of never-submitted AfC drafts

Hi. I recently came across a log entry for Draft:Magaret Lin Xavier, which I remembered as a promising draft, so requested undeletion and clicked the AfC submit button (it was promptly accepted). It seems that the original contributor (who hasn't been active since) forgot to submit their draft. I'm wondering, since you placed the G13 tag on the draft, does G13 tagging usually involve a brief inspection of the quality of each draft, or is it more of a semi-automated batch process, without time for individual analysis? --Paul_012 (talk) 16:37, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Paul 012 Greetings. The article was refunded which meant was check by admin prior deleted under G13 and added Bangkok post for source after then it is accepted. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 20:49, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for all the pings today...

I reported a sock to SPI and they have posted all over about how you are my sock and all this other nonsense. Hope it didn't spam your email too much :). Sincerely, Kb03 (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kb03 and Mz7: Hi, No worries Kb03. I was a little confused to receive the message and now and thank you for letting me me know the the editor is a SOCK . Mz7 has kindly taken care of the matter. thank you and have a good day. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:15, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]