Talk:Virginia Bottomley

The printable version is no longer supported and may have rendering errors. Please update your browser bookmarks and please use the default browser print function instead.

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Peerage and Baronetage / Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Politics of the United Kingdom Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Politics of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Politics of the United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomPolitics of the United Kingdom articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Surrey Low‑importance

	Surrey portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Surrey, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Surrey on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SurreyWikipedia:WikiProject SurreyTemplate:WikiProject SurreySurrey-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Women's History Low‑importance

	History portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women's HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject Women's HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Women's HistoryWomen's History articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Untitled

The anagram might not be the most important fact about her life, but it has been widely quoted and is one of the more interesting anagrams of celebrity names. Warofdreams 10:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

But she is not evil and not a bigot, so it has nothing to do with her. This one is already in the anagram page examples. --Audiovideo 14:39, 14 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Style

In bio's of politicians is it normal to refer to them by their given names? It reads as though it was written by one of her friends or admirers (and probably was). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.40.225 (talk) 13:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone → Virginia Bottomley – Recently moved to current title, but it seems to meet the exception in WP:NCPEER that she is best known by her personal name and received her peerage on retiring from politics. January (talk) 11:40, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley is best compromise as her title is inherently linked to her political existence, unlike, say P.D. James or Ruth Rendell. Quis separabit? 12:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Baroness Bottomley" is inaccurate as it's only part of her title. Timrollpickering (talk) 18:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Either way, as Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley or Virginia Bottomley, Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone, whichever is more accurate. Quis separabit? 18:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If a politician spent much of their career as a member of the House of Lords it is appropriate to have the peerage in the title, but Bottomley's notable political career was as a member of the Commons and she received the peerage on stepping down. This is consistent with the examples in WP:NCPEER of politicians who are not at their peerage titles (Margaret Thatcher, Anthony Eden). January (talk) 09:54, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But it is a bit off-balanced to put Virginia Bottomley and/or other life peers, who don't happen to be former PMs, in the same category as actual (former) Prime Ministers (such as Thatcher and Eden). Quis separabit? 17:34, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The exception is for "Peers who are very well known by their personal names and who only received a title after they retired", it is not exclusively for prime ministers. Bottomley was a cabinet minister and was highly notable under her personal name. January (talk) 18:34, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You've convinced me. Support move to simply Virginia Bottomley. Quis separabit? 11:49, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Jeremy Hunt cousin rumour

The claim that Jeremy Hunt is a cousin seems false. Roland Charles Colin Hunt was the son of Colin and Dorothea Hunt, Sir Nicholas Hunt was the son of John Montgomerie Hunt and Elizabeth Yates. Internet rumours claim Roland Charles Colin Hunt and Sir Nicholas Hunt were brothers and that's why Virginia Bottomley and Jeremy Hunt must be cousins, but I see no evidence to back up this claim. Uhooep (talk) 02:52, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]