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Designers

Hi, I noticed that you added some designers for italian cars, they needs to be sourced and some of them also differs whats said on the main text, you cant also add new data to old referenced info. It would be good if you could find some sources for those additions-->Typ932 ^T·C 18:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.ajovalo.net/muotoilijat.htm

This is one of the sources, i'll start to cite all mine work, thanks

Is this a reliable source to identify a vehicle's designer, especially if it differs from the main text? Thanks, 72Dino (talk) 17:32, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are few simillar or even identical sources, so i think it's quite reliable. There were some differences i agree. One more is: http://www.arcon.pl/press2006/wiadomosci/wiadomosci124.php

That ajovalo.net is finnish site (where I live) and it has other errors aswell, I would not keep it so reliable, for istance Alfa 166 is deisgned under Walter da Silva. I think we need to find better more reliable sources -->Typ932 ^T·C 18:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On the wiki site of Walter de Silva AND Wolfgang Egger, both are listed as a designer of Alfa 166, probably the same as Alfa 147
"Among the cars developed by Alfa Romeo under his [Wolfgang Egger] direction were the Nuvola Concept, 156, 166, 147 and 8C Competizione.."
"The car was designed by Centro Stile Alfa Romeo under the control of Walter de'Silva, and was facelifted in 2003."

See http://archive.cardesignnews.com/news/2001/010530thisweek/index.html as Silva is the head of style centre he has the main responsibility of design. -->Typ932 ^T·C 18:07, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway we can list both, but I would change that ajovalo ref to others sources -->Typ932 ^T·C 18:09, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

de'Silva os a head designer till 2001, then Egger steps in
and the source is as good as the rest of simillar sources, just need some double checking, here and there, but mostly is ok

Found this on the 1966 Spider

09/1961–20/12/1963 Carrozzeria Pininfarina S.p.A., Grugliasco/TO (I)
(Chairman: Battista “Pinin” Farina, Director: Sergio Pininfarina; Design director: Franco Martinengo) from here
design director didn't change for 1966, so when duetto spider was designed, Franco Martinengo was the Design Director. And it does not exclude that Battista Pininfarina couldn't personally oversee the project.
also: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Spider_%28Duetto%29

DAL 1952 AL 1972 CON FRANCESCO MARTINENGO,
http://www.educational.rai.it/lezionididesign/designers/PININFARINAS.htm

Yep good sources , better than that ajovalo site -->Typ932 ^T·C 05:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but they point to the same conclusion, just have to rewrite the ajovalo site, and look for bugs

Alfa 156 rear suspension

from alfaromeopress.com
http://www.alfaromeopress.com/press/article/104

Come la possibilità di offrire un grande piacere di guida in ogni condizione. Complici le sospensioni anteriori a quadrilatero alto e quelle posteriori di tipo Mc Pherson a bracci asimmetrici, che garantiscono ad Alfa 156 quelle inimitabili doti di tenuta di strada e di maneggevolezza, da sempre tra le principali caratteristiche del Marchio.

?As the possibility of offering a great driving pleasure under all conditions. Complicit in the high double wishbone front suspension and rear MacPherson system with asymmetrical arms, which provide the inimitable qualities of the Alfa 156 roadholding and handling, always among the main characteristics of the brand."

http://www.webcitation.org/64W4Xq45t
rear suspension
The New Alfa 156 and Sportwagon confirm the geometry adopted on the previous model with its specific configuration of 'high' dual wishbone suspension at the front, MacPherson type rear suspension with transverse links of different lengths.

Conclusion: Alfa 156 has McPherson rear suspension, NOT multilink

Read the talk page of 156, it isnt real mcpherson , there is no explanation what is real multilink either -->Typ932 ^T·C 12:42, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GTV

Hi, where did you get those numbers?, I think 3 L GTV has bigger top speed than 240? -->Typ932 ^T·C 02:20, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, owners manual, 240kmh for 220PS 3.0 V6, 250kmh with aerokit. Probably 218PS 3.0 V6 has the same top speed, but it was not covered by mine owners manual, as i have a car from 05/1998-08/2000. Also 0-100 tome for 2.0 V6 turbo is not 7.0s its 7.4

There was written with overboost, does the turbo have overboost function? -->Typ932 ^T·C 16:17, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the 2.0 V6 TB has overboost, but don't know which of them is with overboost in account

916 production years

Hi, can you comment my writing in Talk:Alfa_Romeo_GTV_&_Spider#Production , what do you think it? -->Typ932 ^T·C 09:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re: GTV & Spider

Wikitable class is not at all worse. It is the recommended color standard on Wikipedia. Also, there has to be used only one common color within that brand articles, so that all look similar. As for the door number, Template:Infobox automobile documentation is clear: "Body style: number of doors and car shape". BaboneCar (talk) 12:16, 14 November 2012 (UTC) Typ932 and me tink this is worse (colour changes) YBSOne (talk) 12:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Personal website?

Is this your personal website? I see the initials are the same. A personal website is not a reliable source per the WP:SPS policy. 72Dino (talk) 17:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes its my personal website. I think its reliable.YBSOne (talk) 18:01, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you do think that, but your personal website does not meet the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy and should not be used as a reference for articles. 72Dino (talk) 18:04, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thats too bad, because for instance the Enrico Fumia's interviev does not exist enywhere else as this is my intervie with him. Ill re-do what i can, but the interview stays.YBSOne (talk) 18:09, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A personal, unpublished interview appears to be in violation of the Wikipedia:No original research policy. 72Dino (talk) 18:14, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How is this unpublished? http://www.bozhdynsky.com/alfa-romeo-gtv-spider-history/interview-with-enrico-fumia/ YBSOne (talk) 18:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How is my work no original? http://www.bozhdynsky.com/alfa-romeo-gtv-spider-history/ , please find me a better website for limited edition gtv's, You won't because there isn't oneYBSOne (talk) 18:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The reference cannot be self-published like your blog per WP:SPS. And the work should NOT be original per WP:NOR. I like your website, but it cannot be used as a reference on Wikipedia. 72Dino (talk) 18:22, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You, i understand but... there are no other souces...YBSOne (talk) 18:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Friend, this is an Italian site dedicated to the beautiful Lancia Gamma. contains many beautiful photos. Here's the address: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.62.218.21 (talk) 09:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.lanciagamma.altervista.org/

Very nice, how about adding the cool prototypes based on Gamma?YBSOne (talk) 15:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

August 2013

Hello, I'm Thomas.W. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Alfa Romeo 169, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Thomas.W ^{talk to me} 19:07, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The source is an article in "Auto, Motor, Sport" MagazineYBSOne (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alfa production

Hi, it would been much easier and no need for reverts if you always put citations to your edits and for model years its used only in lately, its not used like in American cars or cars that are sold in USA, I dont see any point to use those because we cant get those for all models. And model year doesnt tell anything about the car because they are not done as American car or can you tell what difference is MY 1997 and MY1998 156? "For vehicles sold in North America where the use of model years is widespread, the model_years field of the infobox may be used in addition to production" -->Typ932 ^T·C 03:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The citation is hard to do because of the original research, secondly the use of the model year was only to indicate as with GTV when the car was available not when it was produced, and as there is no such categry i used model year category of the infobox.YBSOne (talk) 19:56, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Alfa 4C to 8C relation

I'm awaiting an official Alfa Romeo statement to the matter of Alfa 4C to 8C Competizione relationYBSOne (talk) 11:05, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reply came in from Alfa Romeo: http://www.bozhdynsky.com/4c8c-unrelated/ They are not related. Not directly, not indirectly, not spiritually. let it go already. YBSOne (talk) 22:03, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Car Weight

"on standarized factory data" So you really believe that that the factory data that manufactures publish for theirs cars weights are correct especially from Ferrari. I posting the lowest correct kerb weight for each car i stumble upon. AutoMagazine, Motortrend, Carandriver all weigh individual cars with the same criteria. If Ferrari reported kerb weighs are so credible why are all their cars literally weigh over 100kg then the manufacturer kerb weight. Do i need to give you examples?

What does it matter? You are only giving a single example against a whole series of cars and they are publishing the lowest common denominator for each model. Ask them why their kerb weight is different than journalist cars, then make a change. Right now You are working on an asumption not a factual information.YBSOne (talk) 21:45, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Alfa Romeo pruduction times

I saw you have edited some production years, for example 156 model produced from 1996? these are probably some preproduction models? not actual production cars, Im not sure if its right to add those years. 156 1st year is 1997. Also were did you find info that 156 V6 was produced from 1996? -->Typ932 ^T·C 21:16, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If it has VIN it is a production car, and earliest found VIN shows 1996YBSOne (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As for rest of the Alfas, this (My) research was to find an earliest year of manufacture not the earliest dayYBSOne (talk) 21:44, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As for 2.5 V6 24V, the year 1996 is just an assumption that the begining of manufacturing of the model is for all of the early versions, which should be true, still might be not YBSOne (talk) 21:48, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also the introduction year is not the same as start of manufacture. 1997 for 156 is the year of introduction to the market and begining of sales, not the same as begining of production, which is 1996 YBSOne (talk) 21:49, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I know that introduction is 97, just tought 96 production is some sort of preprodcution cars, I think we need source for that v6 156 was produced in 1996, because Mm sure they produced just handful of cars in 96, we are not sure what engines those had-->Typ932 ^T·C 19:38, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Both are sourced, luckily I found the early onYBSOne (talk) 09:59, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April 2019

What is your problem? You're the one cluttering the Maserati Coupé article with photos when you know very well that the photos of the facelift are already in the gallery. Then you proceed to make claims like the Coupé was sold in Asia and that the photo of the 90th anniversary Spyder was of a regular and not GranSport version. If you want to make the article better, you should edit with proper sources, otherwise don't bother to edit. U¹ _quattro TALK 14:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly have no idea about automotive facts. 3200 GT was sold i asia. And 90th anniversary spyder in not a gransport. Those are facts.YBSOne (talk) 18:49, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly have no proof backing up your claims. Posting a ching chong Japanese site in your defense with zero confirmation that the 3200 GT was sold in Japan by Maserati won't work. After searching, I found out that the 3200 GT was formally introduced in Australia only beside Europe. If you want to keep making stupid claims and be stubborn about it, do it somewhere else.04:51, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

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 What is your problem? You're the one cluttering the [[Maserati Coupé]] article with photos when you know very well that the photos of the facelift are already in the gallery. Then you proceed to make claims like the Coupé was sold in Asia and that the photo of the 90th anniversary Spyder was of a regular and not GranSport version. If you want to make the article better, you should edit with proper sources, otherwise don't bother to edit. [[User:U1Quattro|<span style="color:darkgreen;font-family:Verdana;text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #a6a6a6">''U<sup>1</sup> <sub>q</sub>uattro</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:U1Quattro|<span style="color:green;text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #"><small>''TALK''</small></span>]] 14:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 :You clearly have no idea about automotive facts. 3200 GT was sold i asia. And 90th anniversary spyder in not a gransport. Those are facts.[[User:Ybsone|YBSOne]] ([[User talk:Ybsone#top|talk]]) 18:49, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
+::You clearly have no proof backing up your claims. Posting a ching chong Japanese site in your defense with zero confirmation that the 3200 GT was sold in Japan by Maserati won't work. After searching, I found out that the 3200 GT was formally introduced in Australia only beside Europe. If you want to keep making stupid claims and be stubborn about it, do it somewhere else.04:51, 23 April 2019 (UTC)