Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
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- To list a technical request: the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
- If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
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Uncontroversial technical requests
- Kīla (Buddhism) (currently a redirect to Phurba) → Phurba (move · discuss) – Move over redirect: Nobody uses the Sanskrit term; current usage is Tibetan "phurba" Skyerise (talk) 15:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Contested technical requests
- Mincivan, Zangilan (currently a redirect to Mincivan) → Mincivan (move · discuss) – Simplification, there is only one settlement with this name[1] KHE'O (talk) 05:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Kheo17: There is also Mincivan, Barda. Lennart97 (talk) 10:04, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Joy (Australian musician) → Joy (musician) (currently a redirect instead to Joy (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – Unnecessary disambiguation. Sean Stephens (talk) 07:33, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sean Stephens: There's also Joy (singer), who as a singer is also a musician - and the Australian musician is also a singer. I'm not sure what the best solution is for disambiguating here, but 'singer' vs 'musician' may not be sufficiently clear. Lennart97 (talk) 09:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- The ping didn't quite work then, I'm afraid! Lucky I was keeping an eye on the page. I wasn't aware of the K-pop singer until now, maybe this should move into a full discussion given neither are far and away the primary topic (the Australian musician is more notable than her page makes her out to be also, not much effort has been put into it thus far unfortunately). Hopefully a consensus on this can be reached. Sean Stephens (talk) 10:39, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Based on pageviews, the K-pop singer is definitely the primary topic: [1], a ratio of more than 100:1. But perhaps the current construction is not ideal regardless. Starting a formal move request would be the best way to find out. Lennart97 (talk) 11:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's a fair enough observation—I should note I don't personally believe either to be the primary topic, but the evidence seems to indicate otherwise. I think as it stands we have three options: 1) keep as is, redirecting Joy (musician) to the K-pop singer as "{{R from alternative disambiguation}}"; 2) disambiguate, with "Joy (musician)" redirecting to Joy (disambiguation) as "{{R from incomplete disambiguation}}"; or 3) proceed to move the Australian musician to the shorter disambiguation with a "{{Distinguish}}" hatnote (an unlikely solution, given the likelihood for confusion, but singer and musician do mean different things, so this may suit some people). Sean Stephens (talk) 11:46, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- The Australian one seems to be primarly known as a singer, too, so I do think that invalidates option 3. I'd go for option 2; as the K-pop singer is certainly not primarily known as a "musician", but still could plausibly be referred to as one, redirecting Joy (musician) to the disambiguation page is probably safest. Lennart97 (talk) 14:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's a fair enough observation—I should note I don't personally believe either to be the primary topic, but the evidence seems to indicate otherwise. I think as it stands we have three options: 1) keep as is, redirecting Joy (musician) to the K-pop singer as "{{R from alternative disambiguation}}"; 2) disambiguate, with "Joy (musician)" redirecting to Joy (disambiguation) as "{{R from incomplete disambiguation}}"; or 3) proceed to move the Australian musician to the shorter disambiguation with a "{{Distinguish}}" hatnote (an unlikely solution, given the likelihood for confusion, but singer and musician do mean different things, so this may suit some people). Sean Stephens (talk) 11:46, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Based on pageviews, the K-pop singer is definitely the primary topic: [1], a ratio of more than 100:1. But perhaps the current construction is not ideal regardless. Starting a formal move request would be the best way to find out. Lennart97 (talk) 11:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- The ping didn't quite work then, I'm afraid! Lucky I was keeping an eye on the page. I wasn't aware of the K-pop singer until now, maybe this should move into a full discussion given neither are far and away the primary topic (the Australian musician is more notable than her page makes her out to be also, not much effort has been put into it thus far unfortunately). Hopefully a consensus on this can be reached. Sean Stephens (talk) 10:39, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sean Stephens: There's also Joy (singer), who as a singer is also a musician - and the Australian musician is also a singer. I'm not sure what the best solution is for disambiguating here, but 'singer' vs 'musician' may not be sufficiently clear. Lennart97 (talk) 09:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Matter (standard) → Matter (connectivity standard) (currently a redirect back to Matter (standard)) (move · discuss) – More descriptive name Quangson306 (talk) 00:16, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Quangson306: it's disambiguation - it only needs to be descriptive enough to be unambiguous. I suggest you withdraw this request, unless the name is ambiguous with some other standard. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:07, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think this change is required. -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Quangson306: it's disambiguation - it only needs to be descriptive enough to be unambiguous. I suggest you withdraw this request, unless the name is ambiguous with some other standard. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:07, 16 June 2021 (UTC)