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It is 19:59:34 on December 2, 2024, according to the server's time and date.

deSysop request (Ched)

Ched (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)}

I think I should turn in the tools due to medical issues. Thank you to all for being such a huge and positive part of my life. It's been an honor to be part of such a wonderful community. Thank you and remember to be kind in all you do. (I'll still fix minor things if I see them) Best always, — Ched (talk) 18:41, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ched I am sorry to see you go but wanted to thank you for your service to the 'pedia over the years. You'll be missed in the admin corps and I hope to still see you around from time to time. Wishing you the best as you move onto this next chapter and hoping your health improves & we see you back some day.

TheSandDoctor ^Talk 18:42, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Thanks for your service. I do hope you are ok. Traditional rules apply if you wish for the toolset back. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:43, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done with thanks for your service. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making this choice but more importantly thanks for all you've contributed to Wikipedia, both our readers and myself and other editors, over the years. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:07, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for making this decision. It's one I respect. Best wishes to you. Valereee (talk) 00:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kind and intelligent! A loss as admin. Hoping for your improved health. Thank you Ched for all you've done. Littleolive oil (talk) 03:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We both started editing the Wiki nearly 15 years ago, and I remember you as a particularly reasonable editor and administrator. My hearty thanks for your countless hours of work and best wishes for a speedy return to good health. I truly hope to see you back here... Cheers! Jusdafax (talk) 03:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well that sucks. Get well soon. - Dank (push to talk) 02:46, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear that Ched, best of luck re the medical issues. Ϣere SpielChequers 12:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

		Job Done
		Awarded to Ched for good services as an admin, and for resigning the tools in a noble manner. SilkTork (talk) 01:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Staxringold restoration of permissions

Staxringold (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)}

Per the relevant motion, could a bureaucrat please restore permissions to Staxringold (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)? Thanks! Maxim_(talk) 17:42, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doing... — xaosflux ^Talk 17:43, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done — xaosflux ^Talk 17:46, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Admin inactivity notices for criterion 2

The first round of inactivity notices for the new activity criterion are planned for 1 October. I would like the crats to provide input on the notice text. I have put a quick draft below for the first notice based on {{inactive admin}}. Please feel free to edit it directly or make a template as you see fit. I'll also need the ones for the second notice and annual reminder. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

== Pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity ==

[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]]
Established [[Wikipedia:Administrators#Procedural removal for inactive administrators|policy]] provides for the removal of the administrative permissions of users who have made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period. Your administrative permissions will be removed if you do not return to the required activity level before the beginning of {{{{{|safesubst:}}}#time:F Y|{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} 1 {{CURRENTYEAR}}+3 months}}. {{{{{|safesubst:}}}#if:{{{crat|}}}|As bureaucrat inactivity requirements are [[Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard/Archive_47#Request_for_comment_on_Bureaucrat_activity_requirements|tied to administrator activity]], failure to reach acceptable activity levels will also result in the loss of your bureaucrat permissions.}}

Inactive administrators are encouraged to engage with the project in earnest rather than to make token edits to avoid loss of administrative permissions. Resources and support for re-engaging with the project are available at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/administrators]]. If you do not intend to re-engage with the project in the foreseeable future, please consider voluntarily resigning your administrative permissions by making a request at [[Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard|the bureaucrats' noticeboard]].

Thank you for your past contributions to the project. ~~~~

Looks good to me. Primefac (talk) 08:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst I think it's noble to ask for people to give the tools up voluntarily, I feel like most will just wait out the period - this message doesn't give a date for that to happen. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:37, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting point, though I feel like if it is posted on 1 October "the next three months" indicates Oct-Dec, and inactivity is generally done at the beginning of the month (i.e. January). I'm not opposed to adding some sort of {{CURRENTDATE}}+3 trigger in there, but I don't really see it as necessary. Primefac (talk) 09:43, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think for me, it's a bit of a difficult ask to request users to increase activity but not give them a deadline. "Within the next three months" seems quite soft, rather than a "you'll lose access by X month". Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, so change "return to the required activity level within the next three months" to "return to the required activity level by <month>"? I guess that would work (and alleviates one of the concerns I had about being too specific about the dates). Primefac (talk) 09:54, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. I don't think we gain anything by being super specific, but having a month would make it a bit easier, especially as we are targetting these at users who may spend months away from the site. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Replaced with code that will subst in the fourth month. Primefac (talk) 10:22, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You'll get people complaining that they thought January included January. Better to say "start of January" of just within three months of the date of this message, which is clear enough. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Primefac (talk) 11:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Me too, thanks @JJMC89 Worm^TT(talk) 09:37, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We will need a bureaucrat version as well, although that could be just case of replacing administrative with bureaucrat and updating the links. -- WOSlinker (talk) 10:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a quick reminder for me - the crat activity requirements are the same as for admins, no? Presumably once someone looses the mop, they would also lose cratship? In that case it wouldn't need specifying. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, as of April. Primefac (talk) 11:47, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Presumably once someone looses the mop, they would also lose cratship?". There is no rule that says you need to have admin permissions if you have the bureaucrat permissions, so I think there would still be a need to notify about the bureaucrat permissions as well. -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:43, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As of April (see my link) bureaucrat inactivity is tied to admin inactivity, so if a 'crat loses the mop because of inactivity, they will also be de-cratted. Otherwise your statement is correct, as Xeno demonstrated a few years ago.

That being said (sorry for the double post), it wouldn't be that hard to add a |crat=yes option, which would tack on "and your status as a bureaucrat" or similar to the notice. Primefac (talk) 12:51, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't really think of a situation where one would be suitable for crat, but not adminship (and was probably why this was implemented across both groups). A non-admin promoting an admin wouldn't sit well with the community. However, if it's a simple fix, there's no real reason to not put administrative permissions "and bureaucrat status". Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:59, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they would now be removed from both roles due to inactivity but they would still need to be notified that they will loose it. -- WOSlinker (talk) 13:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Feel free to tweak the wording; I was trying to be as succinct as possible, mainly to avoid placing a ton of #if statements everywhere. Primefac (talk) 13:39, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. SilkTork (talk) 15:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above time formula currently evaluates to January 2023. Based on prior discussion, my understanding is that the activity requirements themselves are effective on January 1, 2023, meaning desysops begin that day. Were we to send notifications on the October 1, this would evaluate to February 2023, which is either a bug, or a mis-specified requirement. :) Izno (talk) 16:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bug because I'm a bit of a numpty and tested the code in my sandbox forgetting that it's still September. Fixed. Primefac (talk) 16:34, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

:D

Izno (talk) 16:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming this is per individual not per account, so if someone has a declared alt account that brings them over the threshold could we give them the opportunity to link that account? Ϣere SpielChequers 16:53, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Previous inactivity has considered it per individual. See Nyttend's removal a few times from the inactive list because he was last active on his backup account. I don't think the amendment that was made altered that part of tracking. Izno (talk) 16:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is "reengage" better than "re-engage"? Useight (talk) 18:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

reëngage? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 08:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amended to re-engage per Useight. Most common spelling. SilkTork (talk) 09:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RIP desysop performed: Ahoerstemeier

Ahoerstemeier (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^{(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)}

The subject line more or less says it all. This action was taken by Useight per this discussion. I thought it best to announce it here because most desysoppings are mentioned on this page and perhaps some Wikipedians who have been around for a while might recall Ahoerstemeier's username, as I do. Condolences should go on his talk page. Graham87 10:15, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]