Talk:Britney Spears/Archive 13
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Picture
Someone please edit the name above the picture - whoever put in the offensive phrase should be banned. thanks <jcooper> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.13.0.118 (talk) 23:30, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
PICTURE: Horrible picture of Britney right now! She is snarling! Wikipedia can do better than that. I think the other picture from the Circus tour is a better candidate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urbanboston (talk • contribs) 04:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Well, it's a recent one and it's showing her face. That's better than anything we had before, IIRC (disregarding the copyright violations of course). Which one from commons:Category:Britney Spears would you prefer? --Amalthea 09:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Yall need to use this one:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Circus_Live_Boston.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.25.117.15 (talk) 15:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Introduction
Why does the intro go from 1999 and skip ten years later to 2009 pretending like nothing ever happened in between? Come on?! Will anyone ever forget bald Britney beating up on a car with an umbrella. It really should be mentioned in the intro. It's rather misleading. 173.3.67.138 (talk) 20:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Instruments: vocals, piano?!?!!?
She was reported to have played the piano on her song Everytime, but adding the piano as an instrument makes it look like she plays it often enough on her music to mark it as something she officially plays. She's only played it once on a song as I mentioned above, should that be qualification enough to list it in the instrument section of the infobox? Unlike Tori Amos and Alicia Keys, Spears does not make the piano an integral part of her music, so putting it as an instrument she plays is misleading to some readers, me being one of them. I'm not touting that what's good for an article is good for another, but see Talk:Dave Grohl/Archive 1#Piano as an instrument as a similar example. --Whip it! Now whip it good! 04:33, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Some of your information is incorrect. She actually played the piano in her 2005 song "Someday(I Will Understand)" And just because she doesn't play the piano in every song doesn't mean she isn't a notable pianist. I also believe she plays the piano in her song "Unusual You" that is on her Circus album. Not sure if that is true tho. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.197.245.129 (talk) 01:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Songwriter and Actress...
I was thinking that we need to add songwriter and actress to the intro of Britney's wikipage...
For all the album's she has released so far she has written about 15-20 ( Circus: 4, Blackout: 2, In The Zone: 9, Britney: 6)tracks on her albums...and she wrote the track 'Look Whos Talking' for BoA's english debut album..
And actress because she acted in the MMC..she starred as the lead in Crossroads and has done multiple tv stints.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.25.117.15 (talk) 15:28, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
- According the singer-songwriter article, not all singers who write some of their songs are automatically considered singer-songwriters, especially the fact that she mainly co-writes her songs, while singer-songwriters practically write all or most of their material, and second, the fact she's acted in one movie, appeared on a children's show as a kid and made a couple of appearances as a character on a show (the rest of the TV appearances throughout her career were just guest appearances) is not significant enough to add actress in the lead section of the article, as she is not as well known for her acting as she is for her music, unlike Barbra Streisand. Whip it! Now whip it good! 06:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
And if you don't add either of those, it's like saying she hasn't written or co-written any of her songs, and saying that she never appeared in any movies or t.v shows. She was on The New Mickey Mouse Club for 3 years, and had the leading role in Cross roads. And has had numerous guest appearances on t.v shows. So how would that not make her an actress? And she is obviously a song writer. Most songs are co-written anyway. And I don't even know why you are mentioninf Barbra Streisand, I've never even heard of her or any of her movies. Plus, this is about Britney Spears, not Barbra Streisand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.197.111.132 (talk) 08:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Decline in popularity
I think it should be mentioned. 79.132.31.212 (talk) 12:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- Find some reliable sources supporting that claim. Whip it! Now whip it good! 02:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- She is not declining in popularity whatsoever. Songs from both Circus and Blackout recieved huge reception. Tarheelz123 (talk) 19:18, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Her album sales are down because everyone's album sales are down. The music industry is a mess. — R2 18:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- She is not declining in popularity whatsoever. Songs from both Circus and Blackout recieved huge reception. Tarheelz123 (talk) 19:18, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
The only problem with the primary post in this section is that it's simply not true. Her popularity is on an upswing.
97.124.171.58 (talk) 02:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
I meant to sign the post directly above (forgot to log in). Here: Sean7phil (talk) 02:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Family
I think it should be noted that Britney has Maltese blood running through her veins . --93.122.135.1 (talk) 19:18, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Wrong song on Circus tour image it should be If you seak amy.
| Img_capt = Spears performing "If You Seak Amy" during her tour: "The Circus Starring: Britney Spears" in 2009
it's actually If U Seek Amy. And I don't see any pictures in there of her performing If U Seek Amy. The pic at the top is Circus, and the ones in her police woman outfit are Womanizer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.197.111.132 (talk) 08:33, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Girls Are Always Right
Should this be included. Its all over the net even on reliable sources like mtv, play.com, and vhi but some sites say this is an album slated for June release while others say its an unauthorised DVD charting her career with very rare footage on it. Either way should it be included? OgiBear (talk) 20:22, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Vocal ranges
Please do not post her vocal range (s) without a reliable source. And please do not engage in an edit war over this. Tribal44 (talk) 17:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC)Tribal44
I doubt she is an alto, CHANGE IT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.172.170 (talk) 13:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Ahe`s definitely NOT an alto - she`s a soubrette: source: http://en.allexperts.com/e/s/so/soubrette.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.218.238.2 (talk) 15:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Britney Spears is certainly not an alto. - I say this as a musician. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.113.87 (talk) 14:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
New picture
I like the new picture! Tarheelz123 (talk) 02:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Totally agree! Do not change it back to the snarling one! Ryaneon (talk) 16:00, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Why does her picture seem to be changing every day now? Tarheelz123 (talk) 20:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Can talk pages be protected
look at my comment a few topics above, IM on my iPod touch so it's a lil difficult for me to find out who put AIDS in there and give them a warning. Will someone else see to it? This talk page appears to have suffered a lot of vandalism recently so I suggest someone get it protected if it can be. OgiBear (talk) 17:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Vandalism removed. --DAJF (talk) 23:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Plans to write an autobiography: worth mentioning?
There have been reports that Britney plans to write an autobiography after the Circus tour. Is this worth mentioning? Akcvtt (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC).
There is no inclusion of charity work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Batzmcgee (talk • contribs) 19:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Question...
On the little sidebar thingy...it says he was born in McComb, Mississippi. However, in the first sentence in the first paragraph it states she was born in Kentwood, Louisiana...which is correct? Shouldn't this be changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.222.111.87 (talk) 20:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Britney was born in McComb, Mississippi. Kentwood is located 30 minutes away and everyone there goes to Southwest Regional hospital (where Jaime lynn had her baby) there all the time. Kentwood DOES NOT HAVE A HOSPITAL and Britney has family in McComb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.207.135 (talk) 02:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Link: Discogs.
Adding Discogs as it is a major website for music collectors and fans alike. Strangely missing from her links section. It is not a junk fan site and gives unique as well as clear breakdown of her full discography with accurate, exact information according to what each release has printed on it, so is therefore a resource of benefit to users of wikipedia. A reverse link has also been administered from Discogs to wiki. Jimthing (talk) 03:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
To add associated acts Christina Aguilera,Justin Timberlake,Nsync,Madonna also you should add to her occupations she has a fregrance,dolls,a video game,and she has produced music before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/loczekness (User talk:loczekness) 23:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC) Also Britney has been active since 1991 as accordance to star search
Native American Heritage
I have read elsewhere that Britney is part Native American. Is that true?
70.219.142.132 (talk) 15:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
its very unlikey could you provide a source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MonsterRoco (talk • contribs) 20:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
She refers to it herself. Too busy right now but I'll try to find it later.
Sean7phil (talk) 02:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
#1 best selling female (official figures)
Britney Spears is #1 best selling female artist in this decade(2000s)! And 5th artist over all! http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/34074/chart-watch-extra-the-top-20-album-sellers-of-the-2000s/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.119.163.21 (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it's fair to mention these figures. They only refer to the US. But funnily enough the artists coming before her didn't sell as much as she did internationally. In fact, when you mention that she sold 83 million records, you seem to forget that nobody, not even Eminem, sold that much WORLDWIDE. Eminem sold some 75 globally. I know that worldwide figures are controversial because it's hard, if not impossible, to find reliable sources stating them, but if Michael Jackson's fans and record label can candidly declare out of nowhere that he sold 750 million records worldwide in 40 years without being able to mention a reliable source and we all have to take those figures for granted, I can't see why we can't safely state that she's the best-selling artist of the decade in the world.Dreamboy81 (talk) 15:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
i agree, also at the teen choice awards miley cyrus did refere to her as the best selling female of the decade —Preceding unsigned comment added by MonsterRoco (talk • contribs) 20:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
#13 Most Influential Celeb According To Forbes
PLease add that Forbes released a new list and that Britney made 35 million last year...( making her the 13th Most Powerful Celebrity)
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/53/celebrity-09_Britney-Spears_PREW.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.25.117.15 (talk) 06:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Custodial Time
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/11/britney-spears-kevin-federline-kids/ She has 50/50 again —Preceding unsigned comment added by CircusClown09 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
"Musical style and performance" section update
I do believe that the section mentioned in the title should be updated to include recent information. The most recent reference is 7 years old for god's sake! Sylfi (talk) 05:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. I also wonder whether the "Choreography" section should be merged with "Musical Style". Any thoughts? --Luke Warmwater101 (talk) 05:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I have a few links here that could be useful:
Rolling Stone article:
Controversy upon lip-syncing:
Washington Post Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/24/AR2009032403927.html
References to odd exclamations:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/24/AR2009032403927.html
Blender Article on Onyx Hotel (negative):
http://www.blender.com/guide/live/52155/onyx-hotel-tour-live-concert.html
Entertainment Weekly Article on Onyx Hotel (positive):
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,602388,00.html
I feel like we could just take reviews from her tour pages and just use that in the "live performances" section. I think that would be the easiest thing to do. We don't need to take any current information out so much as just update the section with more recent information. I think if we just added that her performances have become bigger in terms of spectacle and that her performances have become more sexual that will be accurate enough. I also think that we use album reviews of her most recent albums to talk about her musical direction and how she has taken a more dance like approach to her music.
Skinwalker03 (talk) 22:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
her achievments
you should also include her forbes ranking in 2002 that she was top rank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.144.123.216 (talk) 07:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
The "main" image
The current photo is really not clear, it doesn't show her face and it's not good for such article. I suggest this photo for the time being until finding really good photo. (i.e. asking Flickr people for permission).--OsamaK 13:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Born and raised in Louisana?
The infobox says Britney Spears was born in Mississippi but raised in Louisiana, while the "Early life" section of this article says she was born and raised in Louisiana. Which one is it? ★Dasani★ 23:32, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- For the record (I changed it a few days ago), the source (her marriage license) says born in Mississippi.VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 04:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
2008 onward achievement
Someone should change this cuz is irrelevant and is a little wrong. In the 2008 onward section at the end says this:
- On July 11, 2009 Britney Spears hit a milestone in both her career and The Circus Starring: Britney Spears by attracting almost 45,000 fans at a concert at Parken in Copenhagen, Denmark, thus being one of her largest concerts ever.
I cant understand why says "hit a milestone in her carrer" if 45000 fans are less than 50000 fans which is the amount of fans that she attracted in her Mexico concert in 2002. Here is the source: <http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/esearch/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1566837>. Someone should correct this or remove it. Please. 189.181.232.92 (talk) 05:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)Fortunato luigi
Innosense notability
Even though she was briefly part of Innosense, I don't feel that including "sony" as a 1997 only signing is necessary in the infobox. This band never released anything with sony, and their debut album was with RCA three years later. Moreover, it is also an issue because we don't even know which sony label they were associated with...Columbia? Epic?...and its probably virtually impossible to find out....obviously this is so not notable for Britney Spears' infobox. Imperatore (talk) 17:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
(UPDATE TO ARTICLE) Some Controversy on the Circus Tour
Something new to add:
Britney has been using a section of a song called FantasMic by Nightwish, but Nightwish have apparently recieved no royalties from these shows nor credit for their song. Nightwish's lable, Nuclear Blast, is apparently too scared to take on Britney's lawyers[1].
Read the full story here http://metalfromfinland.com/news/2009-07-20_22:26/nightwish_potential_copyrights_violation_by_britney_spears
It's from a supposedly reliable source and there is a video to back it up.
Max5892 (talk) 02:36, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
If you click that link now, it says that the information as actually FALSE. & that Nightwish's song was actually a cover of a Britney song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.197.245.129 (talk) 01:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Need to add another compilation album..
its been confirmed that she is releasing a compilation album in september/october 2009 called "The Singles Collection" with all of her singles on it including 6 new songs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.95.132 (talk) 18:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
New info has surfaced that she is supposedly working on her next studio album so now it is unclear weather or not she's releasing a new GH album or if she will just release her new album which is reportedly due out spring of next year.
timberlake's full name
in the article, the second reference of justin timberlake is a little away from the first reference. therefore, in the second reference of timberlake, i've expanded his name to justin timberlake. though i'm still in two minds about it. guess i'm being bold. but advise please.. Wireless Fidelity Class One 12:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wifione (talk • contribs)
Pics in this article
It's great that we got more pics for this article but I feel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Womanizer2.jpg is not needed considering a very similar picture is just below it. Seems a bit superfluous.Mc8755 (talk) 21:39, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
I agree. I think the other pictures of her performing different songs that were previously on her page should be put up instead, rather than having both pictures showing her during "Womanizer". Le David (talk) 01:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
The Singles Collection
It's deff ok to add it now because amazon.com has confirmed it, they've also confirmed the US release date for October 27th
http://www.amazon.com/Singles-Collection-Britney-Spears/dp/B002IC1BNS/ref
also Russ Castella tweeted that the new track he's working on for her comes out this year so it's obviously for the new collection —Preceding unsigned comment added by M430 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Amazon is not a definitive source, they had often advertised products which never make it to market. Either her record label or her own site are the only reliable source for this type of information. This has been discussed many times. Thanks. MrMarmite (talk) 13:06, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Not to mention Amazon has changed the name at least 4 times, meaning it is really unreliable when it comes to this album. ---Shadow (talk) 01:45, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Amazon isn't a definitive source. But Billboard.com has posted it in their site. Mtv.com has too. I think a page should be started of this album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stphnbogert (talk • contribs) 18:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Age
Someone who has the power to edit this article, check out the birthday in the first paragraph and in the box at the right Ftc08 (talk) 01:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)... Now it's fixed.
Womanizer Promotion Picture as main pic.
Leave this one up; it shows a good image of Britney, and the Circus photo: she doesn't usually dress up in crazy costumes. --Flashflash; 13:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
The picture has no copyright status and thus will be removed. I know you think it's a nice picture, but unless it's in the public domain or another similar license it can't be on wiki. MrMarmite (talk) 08:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
U.S Sales As of 2009 (UPDATE)
Britney's album sales in the U.S clearly needs to be updated, I added and edited it according to Nielsen SoundScan as of July 2009!
"U.S Sales As of July 2009 according to Neilsen SoundScan"
- Baby One More Time (1999)- 10,534,000 copies (certified 14x platinum)
- Oops!...I Did It Again (2000)- 9,184,000 copies(certified 10x platinum)
- Britney (2001)- 4,336,000 copies (certified 4x platinum)
- In The Zone (2003)- 2,970,000 copies (certified 2x platinum)
- Greatest Hits: My Prerogative (2004)- 1,347,000 copies (certified platinum)
- B in the Mix: The Remixes (2005)- 100,000 copies (no certifications since it didn't achieved the gold status, which means 500,000 copies sold)
- Blackout (2007)- 967,000 copies (no certifications yet, although RIAA can certify an album platinum,which can range from 900,000 to 1,000,000 copies of sales level)
- Circus (2008)- 1,575,000 copies (certified platinum)
this is an update of Spears album sales only in the "United States" as of 2009! I hope this helps —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adelbutt123 (talk • contribs) 08:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Britney on David letterman
Britney appeard on the David letterman on a top ten special "Britney's top-10 things that would be diffrent if she was president" is this notable enought th add ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MonsterRoco (talk • contribs) 16:02, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
2007 MTV movie awards
The wording of this part is very confusing. It starts off by saying that her performance exceeded expectations and goes on to imply that she did well, but then all of a sudden says that she did a terrible job. Ophois (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
New Page on New album
I know we don't have a lot of information. But we have enough information to start an article on it. We know for a fact she's coming out with a singles collection. And its going to be released in the US on October 27th, 2009. Billboard, MTV and Amazon have it on their site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.114.135.117 (talk) 00:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Very wrong. The Article has already been deleted twice because of lack of information and reliable sources. Amazon has changed the title so much that it is no longer a reliable source, and until more info comes out, there is no need for an article. ---Shadow (talk) 18:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Then name the title "TBA". We know for a fact that this album is coming out. Why not make a page for it? Billboard, Amazon, and MTV have the album on their site. Regardless how many times the titled has been changed its still coming out October 27th, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.97.26 (talk) 19:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- If this album was actually coming out next month, it would already be announced. Not to mention there is not enough information to have its own page. ---Shadow (talk) 04:20, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Just like B in the Mix? That album wasn't announced or even promoted. She said it was strictly for her fans. We know for a FACT that the album is coming out and yet y'all are just being rude about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stphnbogert (talk • contribs) 18:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- No one is being rude about it. There is not enough information to create the article. That was the result of the deleteion discussion not even a month ago. Not to mention there are no conflicting reports about the release date. I just found two articles last night saying it was pushed back to November. ---Shadow (talk) 18:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
So why not put in a SHORT article about it? We know the album is being released. Just make an short article about it. And when November comes and we dont hear anything about it than delete the article. I don't understand why everyone is making this so diffcult. We know an album is coming out. But because we dont have a tracklisting or verified title you don't want to post it. We know an album is coming out. So start the article now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.97.26 (talk) 18:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not being difficult, all of you are. Your just being ignorant now. We have had at least 6 short articles already and they were deleted through deleteion discussions. I've said that twice now. We deceided via discussion that there is no need for the article at this point in time. Have you even checked Wikipedia's policy on album pages, because it clearly states what is needed to create a page. ---Shadow (talk) 06:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry? Just 'cause your a senior editor doesn't mean you can be so insulting! The talk page is so EVERYONE can post their opinions about a subject. We have a serious issue here and everyone should be allowed so say their opinion without you bagging them out. -- The Rogue Leader 07:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Okay here's a point that I think will help. Alright, look at Kylie Minogue discography#Compilation Albums and Kylie Minogue discography#Remix Albums, she's released loads of minor unannounced and unpromoted compilations but there all official and real. Perhaps this could be one of those sort of albums? --The Rogue Leader 07:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- I said you guys are being ignorant, that is not insulting you. Your still missing the point here. We have already had this discussion and the result of that discussion was to delete the album page until more information surfaces. It's not that big of a deal, so stop making it one. The article will be created when we have more information. ---Shadow (talk) 17:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just think you weren't respecting people's opinions. But I do agree with you about the page. By the way, I seroiusly think you should look at my evidence.--124.149.58.113 (talk) 13:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Far from the truth, you guys are not listening to me, so I have to keep explaining my self. I and the other 10 people who particpated in the debate have seen those sources, and we still chose to delete the page. ---Shadow (talk) 18:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- And I just said that I agree, all right?--124.149.58.113 (talk) 01:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Far from the truth, you guys are not listening to me, so I have to keep explaining my self. I and the other 10 people who particpated in the debate have seen those sources, and we still chose to delete the page. ---Shadow (talk) 18:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just think you weren't respecting people's opinions. But I do agree with you about the page. By the way, I seroiusly think you should look at my evidence.--124.149.58.113 (talk) 13:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Front Page Needs to Be Expanded
Especially the part from 2008 and on...2 albums, 5 singles, 1 tour, 1 fragrance and her personal troubles are all crammed into one tiny bit...it should be expanded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.25.117.15 (talk) 18:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
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67 million records?
I think the old source should be replaced as we aren't supposed to use primary sources for sales. --Cprice1000talk2me 02:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Where's the "controversy" section?
Really bad article of Britney Spears that I have ever come across in my entire life. CloudKade11 (talk) 02:27, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Lol, come down. All of her personal struggles are already covered in the article. Xwomanizerx (talk) 02:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Mona Lisa
I think Mona Lisa should have have it's own page and should go under the heading: Other Songs. We know it was set to be the lead single from The Original Doll and it was written by Britney Spears, Teddy Campbell and David Kochanski. The demo was also played on Kiss Fm as well as the real song being on Britney & Kevin: Chaotic and a B-Side to Someday (I Will Understand) on The Singles Collection (Box Set) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.242.82 (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is getting old. Mona Lisa fails notability completely. Xwomanizerx (talk) 02:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I Still think it deserves recognition... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.242.82 (talk) 16:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Then create a blog for the song, but this is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. Xwomanizerx (talk) 16:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry I accidently deleted your comment earlier when trying to reply :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.242.82 (talk) 19:41, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
- Then create a blog for the song, but this is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. Xwomanizerx (talk) 16:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I Still think it deserves recognition... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.242.82 (talk) 16:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
political changes because of brittney spears
After running for the presidential election, Brittney decided to have a "long distance" or "phone" relationship with a fourteen year old boy, who we later learned was a judge's son. After the government learned about this, they decided to hold a vote as to if adult, child relationships were "ethical". After most people voted no on the vote, Brittney had to break off her relationship with the boy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goredgaara (talk • contribs) 20:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm glad Britney and "the government" could work things out. Xwomanizerx (talk) 02:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
"Britney" and "ITZ" WW sales???
I discovered that someone has removed the worldwide sales figures on the pages for "Britney" and "In The Zone" recently, as well as on the discography article. Why is that?
--213.103.212.184 (talk) 22:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 69.179.120.142, 19 February 2011
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69.179.120.142 (talk) 04:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Not done. There's a section and an article about the Femme Fatale album. I don't think we need to mention every song she's ever done -- the discography only lists albums. Banaticus (talk) 07:08, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 75.120.226.248, 20 February 2011
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- Femme Fatale will be released March 29, 2011.
75.120.226.248 (talk) 06:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 04:24, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Circus Tour costume - In the interests of historical accuracy
I was struck with how much the costume Britney Spears is wearing in two of the photos on this page resembles Sámi national dress. This would be a fascinating anthropological fact if proved to be the case. Is anyone able to help me make the link? Vegetationlife (talk) 15:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Catalina123, 22 February 2011
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It says that Catalina gabriela toma,is related to one of the famous singer Britney Spears.Britney Spears said in one of her interview's that she dose know Catalina Gabriela Toma,and its possible that catalina and britney to be sisters.
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No age?
Why is her age not listed here as it is with other celebrities? I assume her press team have done this deliberately (or I'm just cynical)? Either way, could somebody add this please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.170.91.177 (talk) 10:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- A strange fluke with the infobox; the birth data is now visible. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:23, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Sales
I strongly doubt that Spears has sold only 100 million records worldwide. That statement seems to me that it is only counting album sales, since when you add up the number of studio albums sold according to their pages, you get around 75 million and that's before you go into the compilation and remix sales. Then, of course, you go into her single sales, which I wouldn't be able to believe is only about 20 million as the 100 million statement is suggesting, especially since BOMT already has sold over 9 million. I'm not claiming that she has sold something outrageous like 200 million, but I am pretty sure her sales rest above 100 million when counting albums and singles. Thoughts? --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 18:58, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- This is only of course if we can find a source. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 19:15, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Without a source, I don't think anything could be done. ℥nding·start 19:22, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but I am suggesting that there is probably a source out there. I'm sure there is one that at least shows her album and single sales separately. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 19:24, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- And this already confirms around 55 million records in the US. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 19:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sure she has sold more than 100 million records worldwide. But, as Ending-start said, we don't have a source. Okay, so she has sold 83 million albums worldwide. Now, we have to find source for singles, videos and other formats. Her website is a primary source, so, it can't be used. Another website claims that her record sales are around 126 million (which I'm not sure is reliable) Novice7 (talk) 05:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- And this already confirms around 55 million records in the US. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 19:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but I am suggesting that there is probably a source out there. I'm sure there is one that at least shows her album and single sales separately. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 19:24, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Without a source, I don't think anything could be done. ℥nding·start 19:22, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Idk... Maybe... Just Maybe... You should start looking at her certified sales as a starting point? DUH. I Help, When I Can. [12] 17:28, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 216.195.175.22, 22 March 2011
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Well all I know is Britney was mentioned as being mentioned by P!nk and other artists but Willa Ford also mentions Britney in her song, singing the lines "I'm tired of hearing Britney." 216.195.175.22 (talk) 14:13, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 14:54, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Display Picture
I'm not 100% sure on copyright enfringments etc. but I was wondering is there any chance of a new display picture possibly one from the palms last night? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.242.82 (talk) 21:25, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Sgim43, 1 April 2011
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In regards to the statement "Miley Cyrus who has cited Spears as one of her biggest inspirations and has also referenced Spears in her hit song "Party in the U.S.A."." under the section Legacy, it is known that Miley didn't write the lyrics to her song Part in the USA, so saying she referenced Spears in a song she didn't write isn't accurate, and well... dumb, especially since this is well known from her interview in which she states she didn't write the song, and had never heard of a Jay Z song (lyrics - "and a Jay Z song is on")! I'm not saying that MIley is not a fan, but this statement lacks credibility... big time.
Sgim43 (talk) 12:11, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: this template should only be used along with a specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". The claim in the article is backed up by reliable sources and is unlikely to be removed without strong reliable sources suggesting otherwise. -- gtdp (T)/(C) 10:23, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Till the world ends tour
I think that there should be information abour her new tour. --Orbitt (talk) 19:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Updating 2011-Present
I think some new information should included, like that the album is #1, that it's top 10 everywhere its charted, plus her remix with Rihanna for "S&M" — Preceding unsigned comment added by ColdAsFire Baby (talk • contribs) 23:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 70.230.169.105, 19 April 2011
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PLEASE UPDATE!! MANY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED SINCE.. THANK YOU!
70.230.169.105 (talk) 06:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not done Nonsense. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 06:03, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Karatedigger, 23 April 2011
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Britney Spears was born in Kentwood Louisiana, not Mississippi
Karatedigger (talk) 05:15, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not done Please cite reliable sources before doing changes on biographies. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 05:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Her Influence on Lady Gaga
You guys need a credible source. Britney Spears's official website does not count as it can be, and most likely is, biased. You need something that directly quotes Lady Gaga as declaring she is influenced by Britney Spears. And it has to be credible. --Logicalfoundationisdoubt (talk) 21:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 110.55.142.30, 26 April 2011
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110.55.142.30 (talk) 12:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not done for now: Can you please put your request in for the form "Please change X to Y"? I cannot see what it is you want changed. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 13:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
External Links
Could I put these links in as there official,
- Britney Spears on Facebook
- Britney Spears on Twitter
- Britney Spears on Myspace
- Britney Spears on Imdb
Thanks, Davey2010 Talk 13:35, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Ah ok thanks mate Davey2010 Talk 14:26, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 71.48.201.195, 10 May 2011
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"Spears had originally envisioned "Sheryl Crow music, but younger more adult contemporary" but felt alright with her label's appointment of producers"
There's no such word as "alright" it's "all right". Saying "alright" in prose is equivalent to saying "ain't". 71.48.201.195 (talk) 23:49, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 71.48.201.195, 10 May 2011
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"The April 1999 cover of Rolling Stone featured Spears laying on her bed, clad with a bra, shorts and an open top."
The correct word is "lying". Someone can lay (place) something on a bed, but a person lies on the bed. This is, unfortunately, a very common error--but an error nonetheless. 71.48.201.195 (talk) 23:56, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 71.48.201.195, 10 May 2011
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Typo: "Halfway through the performance, she ripped of her black suit to reveal a sequined flesh-colored bodysuit, followed by heavy dance routine."
Should be "off". 71.48.201.195 (talk) 23:59, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit Request - New Picture
I was wondering is someone high up wanted to change the picture? Are there any possibilities of using one from the Femme Fatale promo concerts or maybe from the Huricane katrina event last night? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.242.82 (talk) 20:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
"The Original Doll"
"The Original Doll" redirects here but there is no mention on this page explaining the project. This seems like a flaw to me, because a redirect should indicate it's smaller element that doesn't warrant it's own page, not that it isn't important. If it wasn't important at all, there wouldn't be a redirect because it would be assumed no one was looking for it. 12.162.122.5 (talk) 15:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Number Ones
Spears is the first female artist to have a number one in the 90's, 00's, 10's. I think it would be worth mentioning that in this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.214.164.105 (talk) 21:59, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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Edit request from Britneyhoenix, 11 July 2011
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- Not done Copyvio. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 04:33, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
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Label Change
Sony Music Entertainment is currently restructuring. Jive Records itself still exists and is in operations but is operating under a new label group which is the Epic Label Group. This ends the RCA/Jive Label Group. Certain artists from Jive will remain under Jive as Jive is now part of the Epic Label Group. Other artists such as Britney Spears will be moved to RCA Records. This has been addressed in the Britney Spears wiki page article. I think that the infobox on top of the page should be updated to list RCA first where it says "Label". The leadership changes have already taken place at Sony Music so perhaps this change here can be made. This article explains some of the changes: http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/record-labels/l-a-reid-s-first-week-at-epic-has-some-staffers-1005272002.story
--MusicGeek101 (talk) 18:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Main picture
Can somebody replace that stupid main picture? It doesn't look good and it doesn't look like her. --84.119.28.117 (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- Was just about to say the same. It's horrible... -- Frous (talk) 09:19, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah the Meet n Greet picture is pretty horrible. Why not have a picture of her during one of the performances from the Femme Fatale Tour. You know, because she's a performer. Kaikomai (talk) 23:24, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Britney's Image
Hey Guys, I like the new 'leading' image of Britney. It shows her as she is and not as she was. Using an old image of her would be fine if she had retired from performing, but as she has not retired let's keep it current. B. Fairbairn (talk) 13:44, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
No I don't think it shows her as she is. We don't need an old image, we need a current image that doesn't look gawd-awful. Besides, what other performing artist on Wikipedia has pictures cropped from a meet n greet photo? It looks tacky and unprofessional. Kaikomai (talk) 23:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Britney looks like that in almost every paparazzi foto, with no photoshop, so it's fine to use it, like Lady Gaga's picture. There's no need to be "picky" with the pictures to find a perfect one. Lxhizy! (talk) 18:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
So now photos taken by paparazzi are considered good quality? Lady Gaga's photo is taken in proper stage lighting, during an onstage performance, where she is most comfortable, with a professional camera. She does not look like that in Paparazzi photos. I feel as if all these people are bringing up Lady GaGa as an excuse for Britney to have a tacky picture on her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.250.101 (talk) 19:34, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
change britney's main photo
Please read everything I have to say. The current photo clearly does not show her face. I understand it is important to keep things current and recent, but there is at least one other recent photo of Britney in Commons that can be used that shows her face. (2011)1 The main photo needs to be changed because Britney's article is not suppose to be about her singing career, it is suppose to be an article about her in general, therefor a photo of her up on stage is depicting her singing career (she is working), not her in general, she is not her career. I am sure if her publicist saw this article she would go berzerk! --75.1.139.211 (talk) 03:36, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Good point... I've added a more widerly used pic here, which I think is a more Britney-like style, IMO. ~ AdvertAdam talk 03:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Good choice! I like it. Thank you for being reasonable. --75.1.139.211 (talk) 05:23, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
The current main picture isn't appropiate... the other one was good. Lucas RdS (talk) 18:16, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
- The previous picture was two years old. The current one is from last month, get over it. Xwomanizerx (talk) 18:20, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
britney is also an actress
"actress" should be added to "Britney Spears is an American recording artist". Britney is also an actress. There are plenty of sources that show that she is also an actress.1 Just because she is known mainly for being a recording artist does not mean that she is not also an actress. --QuickEditor (talk) 20:44, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- No it should not. She is also a songwriter, dancer, and fashion designer. Should that be in the lead as well? It's in the infobox. ℥nding·start 19:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of her influence on fashion? Before her advent girls wore much more conservative clothing. Also there is a grammatical error: "NPR listed the album as one of "The 50 Most Important Recording of the Decade" should say "Recordings".98.66.150.225 (talk) 11:42, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Britney Spears is not from Mississippi, is from Kentwood, Louisiana
Britney Spears is not from Mississippi, is from Kentwood, Louisiana. See Notable natives at this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentwood,_Louisiana. And User:Xwomanizerx, stop being stubborn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorinucu2007 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
- She was born in Mississippi, raised in Kentwood. Get over it. Xwomanizerx (talk) 15:31, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Whatever
Hey muchacho, look at his Facebook, Twitter and othet social network profile, on Hometown: http://www.facebook.com/britneyspears?sk=info — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorinucu2007 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
- What about it? Hometown ≠ Place of birth.Wifione Message 19:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
New picture
So, I really like this new picture, but I was wondering if you guys may be considering change it. I have uploaded two pictures: this of her performing Womanizer and this of her after the performance of Hold It Against Me. I think the second one would be better in the main page because it shows Britney smiling... But it's just my opinion. I want to know what you guys think. :) - Sauloviegas (talk) 22:15, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- I considered both before choosing the current one. She looks 40 in the first one, and in the second one she's looking to the right and away from the article. I would wait til the European leg starts, we'll get tons of new pictures to choose from then. Xwomanizerx (talk) 22:22, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, then. :) - Sauloviegas (talk) 23:28, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
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Picture
Ok, so, I have uploaded several pictures of the Femme Fatale Tour now that the European leg has started, and I found this one. I think it is better than the one we're using now, but I need to hear everybody's opinion before even considering changing the main picture of the article. - Saulo Talk to Me 00:43, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- Check the link. The file doesn't exist. Xwomanizerx (talk) 01:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- That's weird... I uploaded this file: http://www.flickr.com/photos/56818732@N04/6042565894/ and it was deleted due to copyright violation... I don't get it, it was uploaded under CC-BY-SA. - Saulo Talk to Me 13:57, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's a copy of a copyrighted image. It was uploaded and deleted like a month ago. Xwomanizerx (talk) 15:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, a user from Commons explained that it is Flickrwashing, I guess. Never mind. :) - Saulo Talk to Me 19:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's a copy of a copyrighted image. It was uploaded and deleted like a month ago. Xwomanizerx (talk) 15:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- That's weird... I uploaded this file: http://www.flickr.com/photos/56818732@N04/6042565894/ and it was deleted due to copyright violation... I don't get it, it was uploaded under CC-BY-SA. - Saulo Talk to Me 13:57, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
How about a picture of how fat and out of shape she was at that MTV thing. The fact that this article doesn't even mention why that appearance was panned indicates its lack of objectivity.75.177.36.154 (talk) 03:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Change Main Article Pic
I think the main article picture should be the one with some cloths on. Its not a great thing to show off naked body parts nowadays. But still put a decent pic please:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.0.8.163 (talk) 07:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- You may see a new image if we find an image better than the current one (in other words, the current image looks good enough). The European leg of her tour has started and I'm sure editors on this page would be considering newer (and better) images. Thanks. Wifione Message 08:26, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- Why is it not a good thing to show a little skin? Brit looks great, she should show it off. She's not showing any naughty bits. --Ella Plantagenet (talk) 21:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, Ella Plantagenet is right. She can pull it off fine. ★♛iluvselenagomez1234♛★ (talk) 17:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)