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Best books on the subject?

What are the best books that detail the whole history of the fort and the broader context of the 7 years war?--Sonjaaa 19:40, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good question and one I'll try to answer here while also adding the info to the main page. Probably the most accessible book is a recent one published by Goose Lane Editions and the New Brunswick Military Heritage Project in 2004 called The siege of Fort Beausejour 1755, by Chris M. Hand, ISBN 0-86492-377-5. It is a slim book (100 pages) but quite informative and well-researched. Bernard Pothier published Battle for the Chignecto Forts in 1995, under the Balimuir imprint. I have not seen it. As well there were two books on the subject printed in French around 1993 that I have not seen.

Prior to this book there is a dearth of material. You have to go back to the 'thirties to find an actual monograph devoted to the forts. This was The Forts of Chignecto by Dr John Clarence Webster, self published at Shediac in 1930. Webster also wrote Thomas Pynchon: The Spy of Beausejour, published in 1937, and The Building of Fort Lawrence in Chignecto, published in 1941. These books are very difficult to come by but a good Canadian library should carry them.

Of the Seven Years War, the most recent major study seems to have been Fred Anderson's Crucible of War: The Seven Years' War and the Fate of Empire in British North America, 1754-1766, published by Knopf in 2000. ISBN: 0375406425.

There is also a fairly recent and well-documented book about the second siege, called The Siege of Fort Cumberland, 1776 by Ernest Clarke. It was published by McGill-Queen's Press in 1995. ISBN: 0-7735-1323-X.

I hope this helps. Verne Equinox 00:05, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!!!--Sonjaaa 17:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for photo

I have removed the Request for photo notice as I put one up a couple of weeks ago. Verne Equinox 20:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pic?

Something doesn't quite seem right with the picture. It looks like more like a model of the fort. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.5.250 (talk) 22:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Believe me, it's real. I stood there on a cold, windy April day to get the shot. I suspect it may look unreal to you (it doesn't to me) because of the flat lighting. It was overcast as you can see; plus the grass was still brown after winter. Verne Equinox (talk) 03:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The picture is inaccurate.

The picture associated with this article is not a model of Fort Beausejour, but rather, a model of Fort Anne. Fort Beausejour has five equidistant points, whereas the fort in the model, which closely resembles Fort Anne, only has four. Bomb-20 (talk) 18:58, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced image. It is likely not Fort Anne, perhaps it is Fort Lawrence, which was located nearby. Good call. Dger (talk) 19:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link that confirms the five-pointed star shape of the Fort. Fort Beauséjour Dger (talk) 01:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The picture of this model was taken inside Fort Beauséjour museum. If you disagree, phone the museum. Furthermore, look at this drawing of the fort, it has five unequal distant points. Even Dger's link shows a building inside the fort similar to the fort model.--Varing (talk) 01:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

From the brochure: the 1758 drawing of the fort is a five-pointed fort with demi-lune, while in the 1784 drawing the demi-lune has been removed, but the fort still retains a five-pointed character. (The text of the brochure also specifically refers to Beauséjour as pentagonal.) The model in the photo clearly depicts a four-pointed fort with a demi-lune. I believe Fort Lawrence is usually shown in contemporary materials as a four-pointed fort (and Beauséjour as five); I do not know if it had a demi-lune. Magic♪piano 02:07, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If one looks at this picture of Fort Anne, it clearly shows that the picture was taken in this museum and not in the one at Fort Beauséjour.--Iberville (talk) 04:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is a similarity but the problem is that many of the forts were built with a similar plan. Clearly Fort Beausejour was and still is a five-pointed star design while Fort Anne (and the disputed picture) is a four-pointed design. It seems to me that the person that made the model did not do an accurate job. Perhaps s/he did not have accurate plans of the fort. In any case, it is a wrong model based on the physical evidence of the fort's footprint as it is today and from plans of it from the past. The brochure from Parks Canada has pictures to confirm the pentagonal and not square shape of the fort. (See link here: Fort Beauséjour–Fort Cumberland: Une Histoire / A History) Dger (talk) 17:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You were too quick to remove my second photo of the fort which showed five stars, have a look:

--Varing (talk) 21:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't five bastions, that is four bastions plus a demi-lune; Fort Beauséjour has/had five bastions (and apparently a demi-lune at one time). Magic♪piano 22:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is what I mentioned, the fort is Fort Anne, since Fort Anne has four bastions plus a demi-lune like in the picture.--Iberville (talk) 03:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Fort Anne had three demi-lunes (see picture in Historical Atlas of Canada or this [1]). It appears Fort Lawrence was four pointed but perhaps no demi-lunes. Dger (talk) 01:17, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Fort Today

There could be a section added about the activities that are offered at Fort Beausejour today. Some activities would include the camping offered, the games for children and bird watching to name a few.Izzyadams (talk) 13:28, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]