User talk:JHunterJ/Archive 9

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Notice of Pending Action RE: User:Arcayne

A Wikiquette_Alerts section has been opened regarding User:Arcayne. Interested Wiki Editors may add comments here:Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts/archive43#User:Arcayne05:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Asimov cat

Seeing you've edited related articles recently, I want to ask you: In my attempts at some cleanup and organization, what do you think about this? —ScouterSig 20:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks neat. I would link the header to just Isaac Asimov's Robot Series, but other than such tweaks, I don't see anything to complain about. -- JHunterJ (talk) 02:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I notice you changed the header (which I'm fine with). I was just wondering why that was (is) your preference. —ScouterSig 19:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

What do the dab guidelines say about page names?

For example, take a look at this move and this move. What supports this? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

If the dab page disambiguates only one capitalization variation, then that should be used as the page name, so I think that I Love You was the proper title. If the cases of the entries are mixed, then there's no guideline preference. -- JHunterJ (talk) 02:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Opinion sought

As a "respected dab page specialist" would you care to look here when you get a chance. :)Abtract (talk) 12:34, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

No need to bother as it has been sorted satifactorily, thanks. Abtract (talk) 13:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Variations of Settlers of Catan

A user is trying to sidestep the WP:EL advice by listing the non-notable, unofficial computer games at Variations of Settlers of Catan. I'm about to hit 3RR, so if you feel the same about that article as you do about the main one, your help would be appreciated. Percy Snoodle (talk) 10:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Chimed in. -- JHunterJ (talk) 02:20, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

HP archival problems

You might have avoided the headaches if you had simply spoken up about what was bugging you about the section title. It took another admin to tell me that it had been added by a since-indef banned user. Had you mentioned that, I would have helped you find a more neutral section title. By acting the way you did, you created the adversarial problem, which in retrospect could have been handled far more intelligently than a person of your level of experience should have. Please make a point of discussing your concerns, JHunterj; as far as I know, few if any of us are actual psychics. I don't consider myself entrely unreasonable. By foregoing even the attempt to discuss your issue, you put yourself into AN/I territory. Let's try to avoid that problem in the future, okay? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 16:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure. And you might have avoided the headaches by assuming good faith and working toward consensus instead of blindly reverting and escalating to AN/I prematurely, or simply by reading edit summaries and Talk page content. -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

More page moves

Brian Boru is awesome (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is doing more unnecessary page moves. Can you check it out? I'm finding many of them to be pointless, but won't do a mass revert without hearing what you have to say first. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Nipping discussion. I haven't looked at the latest. -- JHunterJ (talk) 02:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Read my lips

Last thing: is Read my lips needing a repair? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes; repaired and moved. -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

CJKV taskforce

The CJKV taskforce has been created to assist in disambiguation of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese when using Kyūjitai, Hanja, Hán tự, Simplified Chinese, and Shinjitai (Kanji). If you wish to participate, please come and help out. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi JHunterJ,

Can you please comment here ? Jiulong (disambiguation) would probably become just a large subset of 九龍 (disambiguation), if that whole list were duplicated.--Endroit (talk) 22:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Category:Hawaii disambiguation pages

No rush on this or anything, but I was hoping you could review the dabs in this category at some point. Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 08:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Baykal, again

Regarding this, I would much appreciate it if you answered my previous inquiry (which you have now archived), instead of ignoring it altogether. If the solution was not to your satisfaction, please make time to address the concerns raised by the fellow editors. If you are not willing to discuss the issue, then please do not revert the dab to your preferred version—as an admin you should know better than that! You can't just have it your way and ignore valid questions.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, I supplied my comments at Talk:Baykal (disambiguation). Please, respond. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Based on this reply of yours, I'm very much interested in hearing what you would have to say in response to this question of mine. If anything proves that you folks don't even bother to hear out what your opponents have to say, it's this.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 00:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I apologize if I'm unable to keep up with the volume of your questions on multiple talk pages. But being insulted does not encourage any redoubling of my efforts. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps we wouldn't have to resolve to mutual insults if you properly addressed the original concerns in the first place instead of casually dismissing them, using MOSDAB as a carte-blanche, and accusing the other party of ignorance? When one asks a question and is ignored, it sure does not help further collaboration. Anyway, I in turn apologize for any rudeness I allowed to slip through; I assure you it was not personal but only due to my love of the project (and perhaps stress). I hope you'll find time to address my last remaining concern regarding the inclusion of the aggregate sentence in the Baykal dab (and, if you choose to oppose, explain why the benefits I listed are not sufficient to invoke IAR in this particular case). Shouldn't take more than fifteen minutes of your time, I'd say? I am satisfied with the replies regarding the other two points, providing, of course, that folks who'll show up later to comment support them as well.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 01:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

About the dabs I Love You and Kubo

Should I love you (disambiguation) and I love you! (disambiguation) be marked for deletion? (at least one of them were tagged before) Also, wouldn't a primary topic of the I Love You dab be I Love U? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 15:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted; I think I Love U is not a primary topic of I Love You. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Just one other thing: did my edits to Kubo help? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Just Exhaust and Fatigue (medical)

I'm thinking the descriptions on Exhaust are too long. Thoughts? And I know you don't normally deal with hatnotes, but I could use another set of eyes at the ones on Fatigue (medical). Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Exhaust, yeah, they look a bit long. I axed one of the hatnotes on Fatigue (medical). -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

And again Harry Potter

Please take the time to discuss changing the current consensus in Harry Potter before back-dooring a couple of weak references in. I know you have argued repeatedly and insistently for its inclusion in HP (dab), but it is never going to be added without consensus both in the parent article that you seem to think is the anchor and the dab. I am not sure what you find so difficult about using the discussion page. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 23:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Or you either. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

To your comment on my discussion page, I reply: "Isn't it nice to know that an editor can mature and learn more about his working environment in just five months?" Seriously, J. You need to seek consensus in Discussion. Don't forget the D portion of BRD. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 00:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, A, you need to look at the issue without your fancruft blinders. "HP" commonly refers to Harry Potter, and the rest of this is just a tempest in your teapot. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I readily admit that I hate the fancruft, but that doesn't matter here. It is unreasonable to expect that someone comes to Wikipedia looking for Harry Potter will type in HP. More often they will type 'Harry' or 'Potter'. Why is it so very hard for you to understand and accept this? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 01:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Evidence to the contrary, in the form of the many edits by different editors to add Harry Potter to the dab page, and the use of HP in print without explanation. Why is it so very hard for you to understand and accept this? -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit-warring at "entropy"

Hi,

I just noticed that you are the one doing the edit warring. Please stop. As best as I can tell, you have no experience in calculating or measuring entropy in any physics, chemical or information system. As it appears that you are far from a subject expert in this matter, I strongly suggest that you avoid getting into edit wars with people who are subject experts. I suppose that maybe you think you are "helping" or something, but its not clear to me why you would think this. Mostly, you've managed to insert incorrect information into the Entropy article, and to annoy me in the process! linas (talk) 15:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I am cleaning up a disambiguation page, which as best I can tell you are unfamiliar with. Please stop edit warring over it. -- JHunterJ (talk) 21:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Government of Hawaii

Relocated to Talk:Government of Hawaii#Set index

Just Flash and Madison

Why isn't FLASH included there? Is it possible there's a redirect in it's place? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

And could you check if the alpha order here was appropiate? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

FLASH is on Flash. Madison looks fine. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

About Madison, which tag do I utilize to mark List of places named for James Madison for deletion? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

3RR report on HP (disambiguation)

Hello JHunterJ. See this report at the 3RR noticeboard. You are one of the editors who reverted Abtract, and he is the target of the report. Do you want to add your own comments to the 3RR discussion? EdJohnston (talk) 19:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Preternatural

Have a look at the edit to Preternatural. Is this page even a dab? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

No. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hippolyte (disambiguation)

Abtract refuses to follow MoS:DP#Red links on this one. Or so I read. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any red links. What are you talking about? -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Seems the Shakespeare link was created. Nonetheless, do you think the page looks ok or could it use a tweak or two? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Tweaked. And even before the Shakespeare link was created, that entry was okay, since the included blue link was blue. I would have just left the entry word unlinked rather than red linked if nothing else linked ot it, but that hasn't been codified. -- JHunterJ (talk) 02:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Would "Hippolyte of Antioch" apply as a surname? Or family name? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a given name, but normally not lumped in with given-name holder lists. -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Chi

Is this ok? Couldn't find a better template. There such a thing as {{first name}} or something? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

{{given name}}, as already updated there. -- JHunterJ (talk) 03:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Intuition

Relocated to Talk:Intuition#Intuition

April 2008

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule at HP (disambiguation)}}. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 07:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

JHunterJ (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Arcayne's claims to the contrary, adding the selfref to the HP dab is not the same edit or even the same effect as editing the primary topics. HP (disambiguation) is the page in question.

Decline reason:

There's clear edit warring going on there. Note that 3RR applies to undoing the actions of another editor, it doesn't matter whether or not these are the same edits or even the same editor. — Yamla (talk) 13:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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How about that. I have misread that policy many times. Thanks. -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Per your mistake report

Hello, I received your mistake report regarding Talk:Harry Potter however I believe that my edit was not a mistake. The section of the page that the dispute is on, has more that 2 editors, if I were you I would request mediation Here Cheers! Mww113 (talk) (Report a mistake!) 19:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Lost cause

This article could use your review. It's hovering between a list and a dab page. I think we should convert it to a dab page unless you have other ideas. Viriditas (talk) 22:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Lost Cause (disambiguation) could be created as:

Lost Cause is the Lost Cause of the Confederacy.

Lost Cause may also refer to:

• Lost Cause (album), an album by Jandek
• "Lost Cause" (song), a song by Beck

But the current Lost cause article could be kept alongside, or possibly moved to List of lost causes. -- JHunterJ (talk) 21:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

And so created. -- JHunterJ (talk) 21:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Harry Potter dab

Harry Potter (disambiguation) is a redirect to List of Harry Potter related topics. Is this ok or should it be deleted? The talk page is tagged as well. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

A briefer dab page with the various "Harry Potter (xxx)" articles could be created, with the List article as a see also. -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

What would the page title be and what redirects would be necessary? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Keeping title Harry Potter (disambiguation). No redirects, just edit that redirect into a disambiguation page instead. -- JHunterJ (talk) 21:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand J. Can you reiterate please? Or do the bold edit so I can see for myself? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Like Harry Potter (disambiguation) is now. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

911 (disambiguation)

I don't get it. What's the primary topic in this one? The person who cleaned the page didn't do this. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

The primary topic on "X (disambiguation)" is always the article arrived at by entering "X" in the search box and clicking Go. -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Barrientos

Hi, JHunterJ. I followed a link here from the 3RR noticeboard, but now that I'm here I see that you're involved in a lot of dab pages, and I wonder if I could ask your advice about something. I created the page Barrientos which had been a redirect, but afterwards discovered that there aren't really supposed to be dab pages about surnames. I tried to convert it to a surname page but don't really know what they're supposed to look like or where to get information to put on them. I've simply listed on the page all the Wikipedia articles I could find about people with that name. Perhaps some of the less notable should be removed? Do you have any advice what to do with this page? Thanks. --☺Coppertwig (talk) 16:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Barrientos looks good, really. I wouldn't remove any of the entries, since none of them are red links. Lists of people, for some reason, favor dropping the articles "a" "an" and "the" at the beginning of the description, and I like to include life span, e.g. "(1910-2002)" or "(born 1979)" after the name and before the comma, but all of that is really just cosmetic. I assume "Barrientos" is a Spanish surname, so {{surname|nocat}} could be used and the Category:Spanish surnames could be listed separately. -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

P.S., there's a Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy for these articles. -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:43, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice and information! ☺Coppertwig (talk) 23:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I made the changes you suggested, and I think they're improvements. I think this page is analogous to William, not to William (name), and that it seems therefore to be fine as it is. --☺Coppertwig (talk) 23:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I've also added links to the wikiproject from Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages) and Wikipedia:Proper names. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 23:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Cool. BTW, usually name pages combine the information like is on William and William (name), because most of them won't be long enough to split into two like that. So if you have any info on the name Barrientos, it could go in the article before the list of name holders. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Well, one of my problems is that I don't have any information about the name; but I gather from what you said and from the William example that the page is allowed to exist even if it doesn't have such information. I figure probably somebody will add information in future, anyway. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 12:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Seru (disambiguation), St Arnold

Really need your touch-up on this one (note that I have also left a concern at WP:WPDIS). Here are the changes. I really don't agree with this. Help? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

While you're at it you might like to look at St Arnold please. Abtract (talk) 00:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

HP

Just found this section title and content somewhat funny. Cite it for Arcayne — no use of "Harry Potter"! seresin ( ¡? ) 00:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

And of course it won't do any good. :-) -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Górki

J I need your thoughts on my Seru update and this user who "rv'd" me. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if set index articles are valid link targets. If they aren't, an explicit redirect, Gorky (set index) maybe?, should be used to distinguish from accidental links. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. I asked the opposing user to comment here. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Hold the discussion on his talk page, yours, Talk:Górki, or one of the dab project talk pages, please, not here. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:23, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok J. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Shy citations

Can you be troubled to post, here, these nigh-mythical citations? I've on;y asked you five times to post them now. What are you waiting for? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 00:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

No. They've been posted time and again to the Harry Potter talk page. I don't know what you're waiting for. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe for you to actually post them. I am specifically asking you to provide citation - for the sixth time - that supports your point of view. I am stating that, aside from the two wholly non-notable citations which I dismissed. I have not seen the other two. I would like to see them. If you do not know where you posted them, admit such. If you have the specific links, please post them. Consider this a formal request for citation. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 00:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe this will sound harsh: you are not in charge. The information is there, go read it, and then stop dismissing notable citations. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:34, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Um, should I use semaphore? I haven't seen the two other citations you are talking about. This is not about authority, but about an admin refusing to supply requested information. Do you really want to walk this road yet again? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 00:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

You should use your eyes. There are two revisions linked in that paragraph, and each revision includes two citations. 2+2 still equals 4. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Wait are you referring to your link move to add them to the article page? If so, there is no article within the Atlanta Constitution for the article you cited. And the other article mentions H once, but not by itself (it mentions Harry Potter as well).

Revised math: 4 claimed notable references - 3 non-notable citations - 1 more citation that appears not to exist = zero citations. I guess you have no citations that notably use Harry Potter. Bye-bye dab term. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 00:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

You're wrong. The AJC article exists, and all four articles exist -- articles cited show notability of the thing cited, and I'm not claiming that HP is never used without expansion. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, prove me wrong, Jhj - find the citation and bing it here like a link. Maybe its my browser, OS or whatnot, but it doesn't link to the article from the link cite news template you used. I was able to see the other three articles. Wow. You and I both know that those wouldn't pass muster for any sort of reference, right? Tell me you know those citations were tangential at best, please. If, out of over "300" refs, all you could find is those four, I would dare say your argument is on shakier ground than I had previously thought. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 11:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Proven already. I don't know of a link to the AJC article, but happily there's no requirement that a cited source be archived online anywhere. Again, you might try your local library. Only you claim that those wouldn't pass whatever muster you have so far failed to quote, despite requests to do so. -- JHunterJ (talk) 22:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Er, not proven, J. Give me some time to craft a response to your request in the dab page that I back up my view of notability. I promise you, it isn't being forgotten. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 23:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Piping in dabs ...

... is discouraged, but should redirects be created for situations like these? Inclusively, I believe you once told me that something like this should be changed per the guideline? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

That's not a dab. On dabs, yes, that kind of entry should be avoided. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I see. As for the latter, what is a better word than "breathing"? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, no, I think that repetition of "breathing" is OK. If the whole description is captured in the parenthetical, there's no need to repeat it, but if a description is needed, it's okay to repeat words from the entry there. -- JHunterJ (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

J, I have utmost respect for you ...

... but when you do things like this, I start distancing myself. What made you come to that decision if you did differently on the Batman dab and Hush dab? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Because another editor objected, Sesshomaru. Working toward consensus and a better Wikipedia trumps having every dab page follow exactly the same formula all the way down. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:46, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Then would you suggest that I do this to those pages instead of adding that tag? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

If the tag takes up too much room relative to the list (or if another editor feels that it does), certainly. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Just this one needed the change. There any I missed? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a list, no. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Back to Baykal

Hi, J. I've been scanning the Baykal dab discussion to see whether all of the points have been addressed, and noticed that this thread (the portion starting with "to counter that") is still open. I know it was easy to miss it with so many separate threads not converging really well, but if you could provide some closer on that last piece, I'd certainly appreciate it. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Need a second opinion

Do you think this was a bad move? I don't know about this. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for Mediation?

Hello - you participated in Gavin.collins' Request for Comment, so I am alerting you that we are preparing a Request for Mediation regarding him. BOZ (talk) 03:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I am alerting you that we are now considering a Request for Arbitration regarding him as an alternative to mediation, and would like your opinion on the matter. BOZ (talk) 13:39, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Which Boo?

I'm trying to decide on a redirect for Majin Buu at the Boo dab:

• Djinn Boo - used in the Viz comic
• Majin Boo - used in the Japanese-audio English-subtitled anime by Funimation
• Boo (Dragon Ball) - used as a nickname for the character in both media

Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Boo (Dragon Ball) would fit best. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Update: "Majin Buu" has been moved to "Majin Boo" per WP:WPDB. Which redirect would be best left here, Majin Buu or Buu (Dragon Ball)? And I've just discovered a BU dab. Which to utilize there? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Buu (Dragon Ball). Why is one needed at BU? Is the character commonly referred to as "Bū"? -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

In terms of rōmaji, yes, but not in English-language. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Hope this edit was helpful. And I'm thinking the dab should be moved to Bu, but am not so sure. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:25, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

True love

Appears that there was a move discussion on Talk:True love#Requested move which resulted in 'no consensus'. Can you move the page to "True Love"? Seems ok at this point. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Not with a discussion result of "no consensus". -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Guess being bold wouldn't be a good idea. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Qi (disambiguation)

Is it possible that a dab can have three or more primary topics? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Could you back me up here? Not sure why my edit was reverted as vandalism, especially since I gave a reason as to why I redirected the page. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguous Boo (disambiguate)

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Just Tien and War machine

Was this correct? I believe that these would be considered given names in Asia but not 100% sure. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you believe the latter should be moved to War Machine (disambiguation)? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

People's Park

Here's a fun one for you. Current search leads the user to the dab page, but it's pretty clear from any Google or library search, that the primary topic is People's Park (Berkeley). Unfortunately, somebody went through all the links and dabbed them, so the what links here isn't informative. Shouldn't People's Park (Berkeley) be the primary topic? Viriditas (talk) 23:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm just going to be bold with this and move forward. Viriditas (talk) 00:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Is this true?

Can't confirm what Abtract said, because it isn't clarified in MoS:DP#Given names or surnames. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it should be discussed on Talk:Seta (disambiguation). -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Love subdabs

And what was to become of dabs like Love (song) and Love (album)? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

They should become redirects to sections within Love (disambiguation) and tagged as {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

About Puer and Pu'er

Abtract never really got back to me here (save for a suggestion) so I was wondering from you what action should be taken. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Just for the record your question was: "Me again. I just really need your opinion on what to do with these. A cleanup? A merger? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)" and my fairly immediate reply was: "Both. Abtract (talk) 07:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)". Abtract (talk) 08:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

They could be merged and cleaned up, which is what I suppose Abtract was indicating with "both", or they could be cleanup up and linked to each other in "See also" sections. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

If merged, have you any idea for a fitting name? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I suggest Puer is the obvious one. Abtract (talk) 08:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Sound ok J? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 13:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Primary topic(s) on Bleach (disambiguation)

I know Bleach is one, what about BLEACH? Shouldn't it also be a primary topic or are there actual rules which discourage practice of "all caps"? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Since there's no ambiguous articles for BLEACH (all caps), no, I don't think it's a primary topic. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you reiterate? I'm afraid I don't understand, much less do I understand this revert. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 13:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

The revert: BLEACH does not target Bleach, so it is not an {{R from other capitalisation}}. "BLEACH" and "Bleach (manga)" do not differ solely by capitalisation. BLEACH (manga) would be an {{R from other capitalisation}} if it targeted Bleach (manga). The primary topic question: the primary topic of "bleach" is "bleach". The primary topic of "BLEACH" appears to be "Bleach (manga)", but there is no need for a BLEACH (disambiguation) (on its own or merged with Bleach (disambiguation)) for it to be a primary topic of. This is similar to having "Q.I" as a primary topic on Qi (disambiguation). There's only one Q.I, and there's only one BLEACH. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

And I still don't agree with you. If dabbing treats all capitalisations, punctuations and even minor spelling diffs as equal (see mos:dab#Opening sentence as an example), then this should be carried through into the primary topic/article - a point I have been making before, as you both know. "Ambiguosity" should ignore caps etc because most people in the modern world are very casual about such things and many may well type in caps when they don't specifically mean to. Abtract (talk) 14:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

You're butting in, Abtract; the question wasn't about your opinion, it was about mine. But since we're here instead of on the appropriate talk page: Dabbing doesn't treat all caps, puncts, and spelling diffs as equal, despite the opening sentence section. The opening sentence applies to the "may [also] refer to" opening sentence. It may or may not apply to the primary topic determination. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch J. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 14:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)