Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan and Jenny Gordon
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no decision per Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Episodes and characters 2/Proposed decision#Halt to activities. Feel free to nominate again after the ArbCom decision is finally made. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Dan and Jenny Gordon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
No secondary sources to establish notability or provide real world context Jay32183 (talk) 08:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- -- pb30<talk> 22:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Posted a note on the charmed page about this AfD. Hobit (talk) 15:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, jonny-mt 08:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
*Keep. They were important characters during the show's second season and the article may need some explain expansion, but there's no reason to delete it.LoveLaced (talk) 03:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, no sources is a perfect reason to delete it. Importance to the plot is not a reason to keep it and is completely irrelevant in an AFD. Jay32183 (talk) 06:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- well it's not as if it's completely unsourced. right now there's only four, but it's also a relatively short page. i'm sure it could be expanded and have ADDITIONAL sources.LoveLaced (talk) 05:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's only referenced to the show itself. There needs to be sources providing real world context. You must show that the sources exist. Assuming they are out there is not acceptable, otherwise nothing would be deleted. Jay32183 (talk) 08:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- as do all of the other character pages from this show, but no one seems to be making an effort to have them deleted. it seems like someone's trying to have them deleted because they weren't the main characters. i don't really know how you would source a fictional character when there are no real world sources in a fictional universe? LoveLaced (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not all or nothing. We can deal with the problem Charmed articles one at a time. Other character articles have real world context, like Jason Vorhees. If what we already have here is what you're looking for, perhaps you should work in a Charmed wiki. If Wikia has one I have no problem with a proper transwiki before deleting the article here. Jay32183 (talk) 23:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. you're right. and for the record, i wasn't trying to argue, i'm still learning all things wiki. =p LoveLaced (talk) 05:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not all or nothing. We can deal with the problem Charmed articles one at a time. Other character articles have real world context, like Jason Vorhees. If what we already have here is what you're looking for, perhaps you should work in a Charmed wiki. If Wikia has one I have no problem with a proper transwiki before deleting the article here. Jay32183 (talk) 23:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- as do all of the other character pages from this show, but no one seems to be making an effort to have them deleted. it seems like someone's trying to have them deleted because they weren't the main characters. i don't really know how you would source a fictional character when there are no real world sources in a fictional universe? LoveLaced (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's only referenced to the show itself. There needs to be sources providing real world context. You must show that the sources exist. Assuming they are out there is not acceptable, otherwise nothing would be deleted. Jay32183 (talk) 08:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- well it's not as if it's completely unsourced. right now there's only four, but it's also a relatively short page. i'm sure it could be expanded and have ADDITIONAL sources.LoveLaced (talk) 05:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, no sources is a perfect reason to delete it. Importance to the plot is not a reason to keep it and is completely irrelevant in an AFD. Jay32183 (talk) 06:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I can't judge the notability of these characters as I didn't watch the show, but this article surely does not assert their real-world significance. As far as I can see, the Charmed articles don't have a List of character in Charmed, which could serve as a good merge target for all of the show's characters. Unfortunately, the show's articles also seems to have been abandoned by fans, with no one volunteering for the necessary cleanup work. – sgeureka t•c 20:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per the halt to activities pertaining to fictional characters. Plus article does contain some sources and LoveLaced does indicate that they were recognizable characters in a notable show. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 05:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The halt works in both directions. It should actually halt this discussion, not determine its result. Jay32183 (talk) 22:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, then I'll refrain from adding additional keep reasons. Have a nice night! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 00:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The halt works in both directions. It should actually halt this discussion, not determine its result. Jay32183 (talk) 22:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.