Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Orme

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 02:34, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

David Orme

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The article was created as an unreferenced stub in 2007. It remaines unreferenced, failing notability to this day. Furthermore, this edit introduced the bulk of the article's current content and it is blatant original research, exacerbated by the first person prose that make it read as an unencyclopedic autobiography. The article requires a complete rewriting, if notability can be ascertained; I do not see the subject as notable and do not even see a credible claim that would preclude this from csd-a7 deletion. —John Cline (talk) 10:06, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the sources added and the comments below, I am convinced that the article's subject is notable. Furthermore, collaborative editing has rendered the article to stub class, acceptable for Wikipedia inclusion. Therefor I am withdrawing my suggestion to delete this article, amending my !vote to keep and improve.—John Cline (talk) 03:20, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Would meet A7 requirements. I personally could not locate any secondary coverage and the article would require a complete rewrite even if there were an allusive source or two. Sulfurboy (talk) 10:26, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak~~ Keep I'm finding him noted in various secondary sources. The ones that appear to have substantial coverage I can't access. But he seems to have some notability. The article can be cleaned up without much difficulty. Candleabracadabra (talk) 12:59, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Will you list two or three of the secondary sources you believe may have substantial coverage, which you stated were unavailable for you? Perhaps I or another can help cite the source if it is shown; to be known. Then yes, the rewrite could be accomplished without much difficulty. I am still in doubt that this subject will meet the reasonable threshold of wp:gng, but will gladly consider any source that bears on a fair consideration.—John Cline (talk) 00:16, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the slow response. Many of his books have been reviewed extensively in Books for Keeps. I was not familiar with that source so I discussed it with another editor user:DGG (see his talk page), and have concluded that it is a reliable source. I have also created the Wikipedia article on it. Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:25, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Green Cardamom has also identified some good sources covering the author and his work (see below). Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:27, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:10, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:10, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:10, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep -- an author with 250 books is extremely prolific, even if they are all school text books. People will like to know about the author. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:32, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:AUTHOR #3, multiple book reviews in reliable sources.

Book reviews

McKenzie, John. "Discover Earth's Secrets: How our Planet was Formed, Shaped and Continuously Changes." Reading Time. Nov 2012, Vol. 56 Issue 4, p42-42. Abstract: The article reviews the book "Discover Earth's Secrets: How Our Planet Was Formed, Shaped and Continuously Changes," by David Orme and Helen Orme.
Wildner, Kristine. "Space Launch!" Library Media Connection. Nov2007, Vol. 26 Issue 3, p90-90. Abstract: The article reviews several books including "Let's Explore Comets and Asteroids," "Let's Explore Earth," and "Let's Explore the Moon," by Helen Orme and David Orme.
Glantz, Shelley. "Billy Blaster." Library Media Connection. Oct2009, Vol. 28 Issue 2, p77-77. Abstract: The article reviews several books by David Orme, including "Billy Blaster," "Ice Caves of Pluto" and "Mind Thief."
Goldstein, Lisa. "Ice Caves of Pluto/Mind Thief." School Library Journal. May2009, Vol. 55 Issue 5, p135-135. Abstract: The article presents reviews of the books "Ice Caves of Pluto" and "Mind Thief," both by David Orme.
"Keystone Books." Library Media Connection. Oct2006, Vol. 25 Issue 2, p70-70. Abstract: The article reviews the book "Keystone Books: Space Pirates," by David Orme.
Manning, Patricia. "Giant Panda/Orangutan/Asian Elephant." School Library Journal. Aug2005, Vol. 51 Issue 8, p142-142. Abstract: Reviews several books. "Giant Panda," by Anna Claybourne; "Orangutan," by David Orme; "Asian Elephant," by Matt Turner.
Mark, Jan. "Are you spooking me?" Times Educational Supplement. 1/14/2005, Issue 4617, TES first appointments p54-54. Abstract: Reviews several books for children. "A Gift for the King," by Damian Harvey; "The Thirsty Moose," by David Orme; "The Story House," by Vivian French; Others.
Harcombe, Kevin. "Write from the start." Times Educational Supplement. 9/26/2003, Issue 4551, TES Teacher p26-27. Abstract: Reviews several books for children. 'Grammar for Literacy,' by David Orme; 'Improving Literacy: Creative Approaches,' by Alan Peat; 'Key to Writing,' by Christine Moorcroft and Les Ray Letts; 'Write Away!,' Huw Jones and Adelaide Kelly.
Scott, Angel. "Net English (Book Review)." Times Educational Supplement. 05/25/2001, Issue 4430, English p17. Abstract: Reviews the book 'net English,' by David Orme and James Sale.
Clarke, Gillian. "Early delights." Times Educational Supplement. 01/16/98, Issue 4255, TES Friday p15. Abstract: Reviews a number of books which includes `Anthology for the Earth,' edited by Judy Allen, `Dear Future: Time Capsule of Poems,' selected by David Orme, `Say That Again,' edited by Mairwen Jones and John Spink et al.

-- Green Cardamom (talk) 16:02, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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