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== [[:File:Sentinel at Radstock 1952 cropped.jpg]] ==

Hi Matt, did this one wait seven days since tagging, or was it deleted immediately?  It's in use in a :en:WP article I've been working on and it's a pretty obscure subject so I'm loathe to lose it. I don't recall seeing a tag going onto the page recently, so hadn't tried to obtain a source for it. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:49, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

:Hi Andy. You#re right, I didn't wait 7 days, I've been performing a mass trim of [[User:Duncharris]]'s uploads - almost none have permission. The photo in question had a source as http://www.geocities.com/the_buffers/pic-home.html (ergo now dead) and an author of "Geoffrey Chandler". I'll undelete and tag as no permission. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 13:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, and feel free to ask if there are any more you want undeleted. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 13:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:: I imagine you'll be back to delete this a week from now, but I'll search around and see if I can turn up Geoffrey Chandler, and if he's OK with its use. Thanks for the undelete. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Probably not me, but someone. It's a shame, Duncharris has uploaded a lot of well-used good-quality images, but loads are lacking permission - some at least have links to userpages with copies of emails, but that's not really sufficient without a confirmation at source. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 15:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:::What I'll do is tag any which have some claim of permission, or at least look like they might not be replaceable, as missing permission, and then any which make no claims at all and are modern I'll just out and out delete - no point wasting another admin's time next week. You should probably check the images on articles you watch. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 16:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Latest 500 checked. Thankfully around halfway through he learned to use Flickr, which means I can just assume they're kosher thanks to FlickReviewr. Only around 800 to go... -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 17:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== 33109 negotiates the backstreets of Weymouth ==

[[:File:33119 - weymouth hbr - aug 1981.jpg]] & [[:File:D6547-nrsundridgepark-1963.jpg]] I'm not the original up-loaders , but I'm going to point this out because it is reliant, there is no practical replacements for these file. That line is pretty much gone (Service stopped years ago, with no real hopes on restarting it.) And that engine class is pretty much gone. Also that image was in use on the English Wikipedia on at least 3 pages. What was missing from it to began with?  I might be over stepping, but better to over step, then to say nothing and have been correct.--[[User:The Navigators|The Navigators]] ([[User talk:The Navigators|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 04:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:Hi The Navigators. 
:I tagged this one and around 500-800 others (as an estimate) uploaded by {{u|Duncharris}} as missing permissions. They regularly claimed permission from websites, but the websites said all rights reserved, or there was a message "I emailed the copyright holder and he said it was ok" - this sort of thing doesn't meet the [[COM:OTRS|OTRS requirement]] for images that were not taken by the uploaded - we need explicit permission either at the source or via email to OTRS that the copyright holder gives us permission. I did post a message about this on en.wp's Wikiproject UKRail, warning people that there would be a mass deletion, I'd rather hoped that people would check the images in articles. 
:As far as I'm concerned, due to the fact that [http://www.thebattens.ndonet.com/diesel01.html the source] is dead and the [[User:L.m.k/E-Mails Max Batten/CC-by-sa|original email permission]] (note, this is not sufficient per [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard&oldid=37430210#File:350110_at_Stafford_departing_for_Brum_29Oct2005.jpg this discussion at OTRS]) lacks any email addresses, the only option from here is that I undelete the files and you transwiki them back to en.wp to use under fair use rules. I'll undelete them and then you can message me when it's done.
:I suggest you check your other articles for files listed as lacking permission, almost all the ones I tagged should be in the following cats:
::[[:Category:Media missing permission as of 12 April 2010]]
::[[:Category:Media missing permission as of 13 April 2010]]
::[[:Category:Media missing permission as of 15 April 2010]]
::[[:Category:Media missing permission as of 17 April 2010]]
:I think there may be a few which got tagged as no source, but not many. The files you mentioned shall be undeleted, and will remain so until an admin gets around to clearing the permissions backlog. Ditto the other Duncharris images missing permission. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 10:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::Have you copied these across yet? -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 14:34, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Started fixing the problems (Unfinished though), thing is the 'Cat' for April 17th, about half the railroading images, shouldn't have been there (EX: [[:File:SR signals from cab of standard five.jpg]] (Check the info I put up). Also a side issue I've run into, how do I transfer an image from Wiki commons to Wikipedia. Is their a program? Or do I have to save it to my computer then upload it?--[[User:The Navigators|The Navigators]] ([[User talk:The Navigators|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 07:21, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I thought I was fairly careful about it. Links to other wiki pages as permission is not acceptable per the [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard&oldid=37430210#File:350110_at_Stafford_departing_for_Brum_29Oct2005.jpg OTRS discussion I cited earlier], as "anyone could have written it". For people uploading others work, an explicit statement of licence is required at source, or permission via OTRS. As for the specific image you cite here, I guess that could be construed as PD, I'll ask at [[COM:L]] and see what they think. As for moving things between wikis, try [http://toolserver.org/~commonshelper2/?language=en&project=wikipedia&target_file=&file=&use_checkusage=1 Commonshelper 2] - never tried it myself, but looks like it can move images from commons as well as to it. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 09:51, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::COM:L discussion at [[Commons_talk:Licensing#Acceptability_question]]. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 09:57, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::And that discussion seems to agree PD or maybe WTFPL, so OK for those. I'm still not happy about the ones with links to other wikipages as sources. As an aside, it may be best to check with the owner of that website and get him to send permission to OTRS so that if his website gets deleted we have written proof of permission. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 11:13, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I'll try to get permission from him in email form, and I sent the Max Batten email, to OTRS/<permissions-commons@wikimedia.org>, now comes the fun part of fixing changes on Wikipedia. --[[User:The Navigators|The Navigators]] ([[User talk:The Navigators|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[File:Visa-electron-Poland-new-logo.jpg]] ==

Hello, Mattbuck, regarding [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Visa-electron-Poland-new-logo.jpg this] - this was actually no copyright violation, this was actually my own card and I had photographed it and edited my data out personally. I still have it and can make another photo as proof or just to reupload it if it's needed. Cheers, [[User:Ouro|Ouro]] ([[User talk:Ouro|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

:Hi Ouro. I'm sorry if I was unclear with my deletion - the issue is not about whether you took the photo or not, I'm sure you did, it's about whether you have the rights to the artwork on the card. Unless you hold the copyright to the artwork, it's a derivative work and thus not suitable to be on commons. Hope this clears things up. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 14:57, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, right. Well, if that's the way it is, then so be it. As for me, this all falls into the category of copyright paranoia, and matters not. Thanks for the clarification. Cheers! --[[User:Ouro|Ouro]] ([[User talk:Ouro|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Maturity ==


I will appreciate it if you approach the issues with the maturity that a Commons admin should display.  Please don't make any more joke pages.  If you want to join a constructive discussion around policy, please do so.  If you want to mock and insult, then please leave.  Full stop.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:I personally thought that humour was somewhat of a way to defuse the situation. Apologies if it offended you. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 18:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Resignation Request ==

As per [[User talk:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales']] statement advocating "removing adminship in case of wheel warring on this issue" I request your resignation as a sysop on Commons. Respectfully, [[User:Stillwaterising|Stillwaterising]] ([[User talk:Stillwaterising|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:No. When have I wheel warred? I have not performed any admin actions opposing another admin on this issue, I have only argued against the dictatorial imposition of policy by someone who is not a member of this community. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 07:07, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Undeleting after a vote ==

[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Female_masturbation.svg.2C_File:Cumfac-01.svg_.26_File:Cumfac_01.png This] is an undeletion you performed after voting. That is in direct violation of the deletion/undeletion standards. Please undo your action immediately before this has to be undone as an abuse of ops. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:34, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Errr, am I missing something or did Ottava add the wrong link? Mattbuck has neither voted on, nor performed, an undeletion of this mediafile. [[User:Finnrind|Finn Rindahl]] ([[User talk:Finnrind|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::Wrong one. I fixed it." * Symbol support vote.svg Support - in use thus in scope. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:47, 9 May 2010 (UTC)" and "they are hereby undeleted. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)". He basically pumped up the undelete votes before restoring it. This is highly inappropriate conduct and his statements do not reflect actual policy but personal, POV preference which he had stressed in previous statements as discussed above. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::Plus, if you read it, most of the support for undelete was either support claiming it was in use (and thus not applying to the second and third) or support that did not apply to the second or third. The claim at the bottom reflects a prejudice that could be used to request a desysopping, which was mentioned in previous statements before. Mattbuck has crossed the line before and crossed a very bright line again. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::The page for requesting something is deleted is [[Commons:Deletion requests|here]]. If users were less quick to delete things and allowed the community to discuss it then there wouldn't be such a mess. Trying to discuss deletions when most people can't see the files is always going to be challenging. Better to restore and nominate for deletion properly in cases where there are significant concerns expressed. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] ([[User talk:Adambro|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry, but that is not how things work. You cannot say "it shouldn't have been deleted" as a justification to wheel warring and undeleting something you voted in to help shove consensus in a fringe and soapbox view. This is clear abuse of admin power. If he does not undo it himself and apologize for the abuse I will nominate him for removal with the above plus previous considerations expressed in other threads and his wheel warring while promoting a fringe point of view. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::In general Ottava - please do not be so hasty calling for desysop when you disagree with an admin closure. In particular, I can't see anything in [[Commons:Undeletion_requests#Instructions for admins]] stating that undeleting after !voting is a violation (I may have been looking at the wrong place?). For the record, I haven't even had a look at the files in question as I'm currently not viewing *any* files that may be NSFW. [[User:Finnrind|Finn Rindahl]] ([[User talk:Finnrind|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Ottava, requesting Matt have his rights removed isn't going to get these images deleted. If you think they should be deleted then nominate them as I've said. Then the community can have a proper discussion over a longer period which would be helpful to the many users who will have NSFW concerns which will limit the time they have available to investigate any concerns. That is one of the reasons why I'm not impressed by the massive number of deletions which have gone on recently. It will be very difficult for many people, and of course impossible for non-admins, to have the time to properly assess the speedy deletions due to such considerations. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] ([[User talk:Adambro|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Admin closures can only be done by objective admin not involved in the discussion. Mattbuck was neither so there was no "admin closure", there was only abuse of ops. If you don't recognize that then your opinion is not grounded within our policies or code of conduct and I shall ignore it in the future. Adambro, that goes for you too. This was an abuse of ops. It does not matter if the images are deleted or not, but what does matter is admin not abusing their ops to further their personal political agenda and what is becoming a very obvious campaign against Jimbo. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Ottava, you are consistently misrepresenting policy and it is frankly getting annoying. I suggest you stop. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 19:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:(ec) Ottava, as Finn states, there are no rules against admins closing UDEL discussions they voted in, maybe there should be but currently there are not. As for the discussion, it was clearly going nowhere - you were just repeating every line that one of the major clauses of SCOPE does not actually mean what it says, and were in fact saying that you and only you knew the divine truth of it. And then there was the rest of the community who disagreed with you. Frankly, I find your actions to be tiresome at best, bordering on rule-surfing and outright vandalism - I decided that enough was enough and to close the discussion and undelete the images. As was stated, you want them deleted, take it to DR and come up with a reason other than IDONTLIKEIT hiding behind a mask of wikilawyering and misrepresentations of SCOPE. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 19:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ottava suggests there is a campaign against Jimbo. Perhaps Mattbuck is himself the target of a campaign here. As you Ottava suggests, he don't care whether these images are deleted or not, only that Matt might have made a mistake in closing the discussion. I don't think Ottava has his priorities right there. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] ([[User talk:Adambro|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Sorry Adam, could you rephrase that third sentence, I'm a bit confused by it. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 19:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry, I wrote my comment that had an edit conflict so had to reword it but didn't do a very good job. What I means is that Ottava has suggested that he isn't really concerned with what happens with these images. He is only concerned with your actions. I would suggest his primary concern should always be about the images we host. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] ([[User talk:Adambro|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Adambro, I made my vote, but if consensus is against consensus is again. However, Admin policy makes it very clear that Admin are not to use their ops in this way. Since you refuse to understand that, I am going to bring the matter up on Wikiversity as a part of you no longer being able to trust when to use admin abilities or not. Your statements show a clear inability to understand appropriate conduct for admin and I am disappointed in you. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:35, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::What the hell does Wikiversity have to do with anything? -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 19:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{awesome|comment}}: "Wikiversity... ....offers a series of tutorials, or courses, for the fostering of learning, rather than formal content" (source:Wikipedia). Maybe they're offering tutorials in appropriate conduct for admins??[[User:Finnrind|Finn Rindahl]] ([[User talk:Finnrind|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Furthermore, there is no such admin policy on issues you're involved in. The (vaguely) relevant bit of [[COM:A]] is ''Administrators should also understand and follow Commons' policies, and where appropriate respect community consensus.'' I think YOU are the one who is not respecting consensus by continually pushing a case that has been universally rejected and which is against policy (which is pre-established consensus). -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 19:51, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::You mention consensus but you haven't followed any. You made up a justification to push your own view after it was being denied. Furthermore, you need to look on Meta for the base principles and standards of adminship that apply to all projects, especially commons which is part of wikimedia. You don't gain a magical right to impose your own will in a directly abusive manner. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

::The admin policy makes it clear that you are not to use your ops in matters you are involved in. Not only did you try to push your view with a "comment", then you "voted", then you declared it was not a democracy. When it was proved that two were out of scope by not being in used, you declared the scope no longer applied. Those are three clear abuses of the admin policy. I will give you 6 hours to reverse yourself and apologize for crossing the line before I list you up for removal. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:32, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Ottava, you're right, I did say it's not a democracy, because it's not. I should not have said I voted in it, because that implies a democracy, which it is not. What I did was comment that I thought it should be kept. That is not a vote - we work by consensus building in accordance with established policy. Established policy says an image is in scope if it's used on another project. If you're unhappy with that, get the policy changed. As that is policy, it renders your argument that it is not in scope moot, and so the support for undeletion is pretty much unanimous. I will not apologise to you. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 19:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Admin are not to close decisions they were involved in. You commented once to influence the statements then kept, then closed saying with a statement that 1. opinion didn't matter because you were right and they were wrong and 2. claiming that the scope of the project was wrong because even though there was no actual use in any manner you made up a reason that there would be. That is majorly overstepping your position of authority and far worse than anything Jimbo did. You have gone after him while doing far, far worse yourself. That is not what adminship is about nor is it acceptable for an admin to act in that way. You are not a god king nor are you allowed to become one because you feel some other "god king" did something you didn't like. Your claim that there was unanimous support when there was not one proof that the second and third fell within our scope is utterly absurd and just verifies my statements. You have crossed the line and there is no hope you'd be coming back. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Again, there is no restruction on admins closing UDEL discussions other than the original deleting admin is not allowed to simply close it as not done. You're right that the 2nd and 3rd images did not have the same argument as the previous one for undeletion - I stated my decision that as Commons hosted several similar images which were declared within scope that those were too. You have 3 options:
:::::#Start a deletion request.
:::::#Start a de-admin request.
:::::#Just drop it, you lost.
:::::Pick one and do it, stop with all the hot air here. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 19:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::You think you are right on the action whereas many common users I've talked to on IRC agree that you clearly crossed the line. This has been made clear with other admin who have protected pages they were involved in or used blocks on those they were opposed to. But lets get to the theory which you gave. Mattbuck, do you or do you not agree that your claim directly contradicts the scope: "The fact that an unused pornographic image could theoretically be used to illustrate an article on pornography does not mean that we should keep all pornographic images". The scope makes it clear that your statement was 100% wrong. That suggests that not only were your actions inappropriate, but your statement went against consensus based policy. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:03, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Please see my previous statement, I'm really not willing to argue any more about this here. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 20:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

You stated: "As for the second and third images, they were not in use, however judging by the fact that multiple projects use similar images, I would argue that these also fall into scope."

Policy states: "The fact that an unused pornographic image could theoretically be used to illustrate an article on pornography does not mean that we should keep all pornographic images".

Are you going to admit that you directly went against policy or not? [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

:I'd argue that it is not pornography, and that it is reasonable to have such educational drawings. I don't support keeping all images of penises and vaginas, or in fact all images of anything - commons has a lot of crap that is utterly useless, but this is not one of those times. Now, take it to DR, take it to deadmin, or drop it. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 20:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::If you read the section, it applies to all images. It starts with "blurry images" first. Therefore, saying it is "not pornography" is not appropriate in responding. Pornography has nothing to do with it. The policy is about image clutter and use. Do you or do you not admit that your statements about use directly contradicted our policy? The statements above are very clear. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Take it to DR, take it to deadmin, or drop it. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 20:25, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Ottava Rima ==

Hi. You have participated in the long debate about {{u|Ottava Rima}}. You may want to vote in [[Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Final_poll_about_the_current_block_of_Ottava_Rima|the final poll about his block]]. I might have summarized your expressed opinion already, if so please check that it is correct! '''Only one vote ({{sup}}, {{opp}} or {{neutral}}), with a block length in case of support. Nothing more in this subsection!''' Thanks. --[[User:Eusebius|Eusebius]] ([[User talk:Eusebius|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

==File:Mercury Records I Got Rhythm.JPG.==
Hello. I was wondering about the reason for the speedy deletion of [[:File:Mercury Records I Got Rhythm.JPG]]. It looked like it was properly licensed to me. What important was missed?  Thanks. Cheers, -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:37, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hmm, you may be right on that. However, I do find it a bit... strange that it wasn't copyrighted. Are we sure there was no copyright notice anywhere on the sleeve or something?
:There were a few more I deleted - I gave up after about 24 and went back to revision. Can undelete if you want. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 19:18, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:: As I understand it, printed works published in the US in that era without notice of copyright are now public domain. Many record labels of this era lack copyright notice, thus the labels and mechanical reproductions of the labels are PD. (There may still be a trademark for any corporate logo on the label, and this doesn't apply to the music on the record, just the label itself.)  On that one, the full label is shown, and there's no (c) nor similar notice. So I think that one should be restored. If there were similar cases you deleted, I think any that seem to be correctly described and tagged and potentially useful in project scope would likewise be okay; note this applies only to US works. Feel free if you want my input or opinion on any individual cases. Thanks for your work and attention. Cheers, -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I shall undelete the lot and turn them over to your more informed gaze. I confess I looked through then and thought "not pd-ineligible, not pd-ineligible, not pd-ineligible", etc. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 21:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Undeleted. Some may have been delinked. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 21:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::::But I had taken the trouble of putting a license on them. You may also want to have a look at [[Threshold of originality#United States]] to adjust you own threshold to those of the Copyright Office. Your job to relink them. /[[User:Pieter Kuiper|Pieter Kuiper]] ([[User talk:Pieter Kuiper|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

==Talkback==
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==Quality Image Promotion==
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== RE:'File:30166 on shed.jpg and other planefacts images' ==

Okay, will remove the first bit, I forgot to remove it when I was adding the correct info, will fix the other problems. But it's going to have to wait till at least Saturday, so don't flag it for deletion or anything.--[[User:The Navigators|The Navigators]] ([[User talk:The Navigators|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 04:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

: I've just added another image (1907 book scan, fairly decent works photo) to [[:Category:LSWR L11 class]], so [[:File:30166 on shed.jpg]] isn't perhaps as vital as it was earlier on. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

::I dropped an email to Max Batten, and just got a reply back saying CC-BY-3.0 for all photos on his website. I'll forward this to OTRS. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 11:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::So to be absolutely clear, we are good with the Max Batten images?--[[User:The Navigators|The Navigators]] ([[User talk:The Navigators|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes. I haven't got a reply from OTRS yet - I'll poke them later - but the permission is fine from there. Let me sort out the ticket and we can upload some more. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 10:04, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Caersws railway station MMB 01.jpg|Semaphore signals at Caersws. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)|I like this one, too --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 15:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:WHR 87 Beddgelert MMB 01.jpg|WHR #87 arrives at Beddgelert station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 00:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)|Very good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 08:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Aberdesach MMB 05.jpg|A stream flows into the sea at Aberdesach. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 03:07, 31 May 2010 (UTC)|Nice image. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 18:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Harlech light colours.jpg|A light in a very expensive pottery/art gallery in Wales. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)|{{comment}} Nothing to see of the expensive pottery --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 13:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />{{sup}} Nice and sharp. Good! --[[User:MichaelBueker|MichaelBueker]] 09:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br>{{comment}} - the pottery wasn't worth photographing. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 12:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)}}

== Floods in QI ==
You might be interested in an ongoing discussion regarding QI floods of late, [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Quality_images_candidates#Flooding here]. Cheers, [[User:Ianare|ianaré]] ([[User talk:Ianare|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks for the heads-up. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 13:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Amman notturna HPIM3410.JPG]] ==

Hello Mattbuck!

I have seen that you have closed the deletion request above with kept because of the fact that this image is in use on it:wiki. I agree, you have acted correctly, images that are used elsewhere are to be kept. But now the image is replace by another one on it:wiki. Would it be possible to reopen the request and deleted now? Regards, [[User:High Contrast|High Contrast]] ([[User talk:High Contrast|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:39, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:{{done}} -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 12:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:158822 Porthmadog WHHR 2.jpg|158822 waits for permission to cross the level crossing at Porthmadog. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)|OK --[[User:Ianare|Ianare]] 05:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)}}

== I wonder ==

Hi Mattbuck, at Jimbo's page you discussed the categories of a garbage, I would rather not link to. You made me to understand that you do believe that [....] should be put to the certain category I'd rather will not link to. So I wonder what prevented you personally from adding the removed category back? Thanks.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:Partly I hadn't actually noticed it had been removed, and partly that I would rather not get into an edit war over it. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 15:11, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::Well, you could have put the removed category back and protect that [....], if it is removed again, but I understand you are afraid to get involved.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Also, I am unsure of the distinction between antisemitism, which I believe to be based on religion, versus anti-Israeli sentiment, which would be based on the state. I feel that the artwork is more anti-Israeli than antisemitic, but I understand that since Israel is a jewish state there is considerable overlap. And it's not about being afraid, I simply don't ''want'' to get into an edit war over it. I'd be happy to protect it, but iirc Pieter is an admin, so it wouldn't do any good. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 15:32, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Okay I guess I overestimated your knowledge on the subject, and I am not going to discuss it with you. kuiper is not an [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Commons_administrators admin]. I do not think he ever was and I doubt he ever will be.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:42, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Hmm, my bad. Well, I agree it should be in some sort of anti-Israeli category, but I won't pretend to know which one. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 15:59, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:37324 and 37215 at Toddington.jpg|37324 and 37215 in the yard at Toddington railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)|3=Good enough. [[User:ZooFari|ZooFari]] 00:11, 5 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:37324 at Toddington railway station (2).jpg|37324 departs Toddington for Cheltenham. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)|Minor noise, minor CA, but overall quality is acceptable. --[[User:Dschwen|Dschwen]] 16:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br>{{Comment}} I think cropping out the lady from the left will add more value to the composition. --[[User:Jovianeye|Jovianeye]] 02:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:175113 Deganwy A.jpg|175113 arrives at Deganwy station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)|Do not see major problems here. --[[User:Dschwen|Dschwen]] 16:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:313123 HKC 1.jpg|313123 passes through Hackney Central with a stock movement. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)|Good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 16:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Rhyd Ddu sheep pen.jpg|An old ruined sheep pen (?) near Rhyd Ddu in Wales. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 00:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)| Nice pic, (with another nice welsh name !)--[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 16:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)<br>I must admit I'm unsure quite how to pronounce it - I think it's "rhith thee" or something. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 17:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:37324 at Toddington railway station.jpg|37324 hauls a Cheltenham service away from Toddington. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)|Seems fine! --[[User:Jovianeye|Jovianeye]] 04:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:175011 Newport B.jpg|175011 stands at Newport station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)|QI. --[[User:Jovianeye|Jovianeye]] 01:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:60163 Tornado with the Severn Coast Express at Chepstow Tunnel 30 May 2009 pic 3.jpg|60163 ''Tornado'' leads the Severn Coast express into the Chepstow tunnel. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 13:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)| QI to me.--[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 23:05, 8 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:60163 Tornado with the Severn Coast Express in Yatton, North Somerset 30 May 2009 pic 2.jpg|60163 ''Tornado'' steams through Yatton. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 13:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)|Good, --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 18:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:60163 Tornado on the West Somerset Railway at Crowcome Heathfield station 2 June 2009 pic 6.jpg|60163 ''Tornado'' departs Crowcombe Heathfield for Minehead. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)|QI to me - especially i like the composition and I think whole picture is high quality --[[User:J. Lunau|J. Lunau]] 07:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:60163 Tornado with the Severn Coast Express at Chepstow Tunnel 30 May 2009 pic 2.jpg|60163 ''Tornado'' steams towards the Chepstow Tunnel. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)| The very little view of the tunnel (edge right above) is too small or too large. Its disturbing IMO. If cropped, I'll change my vote, because I like this image--[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 22:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br>Bridge corner duly cropped. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 23:06, 8 June 2010 (UTC)OK Qi now in my opinion.--[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 09:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Willesden Junction railway station MMB 01 378005.jpg|378005 sits at Willesden Junction with a service to Richmond. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)|Ok. --[[User:Berthold Werner|Berthold Werner]] 11:20, 9 June 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:ATW 158839 STJ 01.jpg|158839 stands at Severn Tunnel Junction. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 12:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)|QI. --[[User:Jovianeye|Jovianeye]] 04:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:ATW 158839 158820 STJ 02.jpg|158820 and 158839 cross at Severn tunnel Junction. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 12:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)|Good. --[[User:Berthold Werner|Berthold Werner]] 13:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:ATW 158839 158820 STJ 01.jpg|158839 and 158820 meet at Severn Tunnel Junction. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 21:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)|ok --[[User:Pudelek|Pudelek]] 12:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)}}

== Well, I have done it again ==

If you'd like to decline the image yourself, or to block me, please do be my guest, but please do not re-post the decline by lycaon. lycaon voting on my nominations is against the consensus that was supported on AN/U by 4 uninvolved administrators, and was not opposed by any uninvolved editor. I'd also like to ask you for a favor. Please do not threat me with blocks. Better just block me without "last warning". The blocks are OK with me, the threats are not. Why? Because, if I am to comply with "last warning" and threats to get blocked, it will look as I am scared or I care. I am not and I do not. Regards.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

:mbz1 he '''did''' decline himself.  "Per Lyacon" does not mean he is restoring Lyacon's decline, it means he agrees with Lyacon's rationale (and adds "fish is not sharp" to emphasize the point). I'm not going to be drawn into the AN/U, but I am going to enforce the rules of QI.  I am moving to discuss so you can contest Mattbuck's decline, but you really should have done this yourself, not engaged in edit warring.  Please don't let your conflicts spill over to the rest of us. --[[User:99of9|99of9]] ([[User talk:99of9|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:45, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::See previous comment. Per Lycaon means I agree with Lycaon, not that I am doing it to spite you. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 03:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

::99of9, how an image could be declined referring to a review that is not there, and should not have been there in the first place, I mean lycaon's one. Don't you think it looks kind of  silly? I believe matt is experienced enough to decline an image on his own, and I have absolutely no problems with that. Honestly I really cannot care less, if an image gets promoted, or it gets declined. I simply was trying to enforce consensus reached on AN/U about mine and lycaon interactions. I guess I am failed. I am sorry, if you feel I tried to spill my conflicts over to the rest of you, but anyway...<br>BTW mattbuck, how come that after "my only warning" I am still not blocked? It reminded me [http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article31683.ece how China issued the relevant 437th and 593rd serious warnings to the United States]. Maybe I should be blocked, at least, if I am, it will b easier on me.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:23, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:::About turtle image. I was very upset with you, when I withdrawn it, but not because you declined my fish. Please do believe me, if I nominate images on QI and/or FPC for that matter, I do not care about the results anymore, I used to, but no more. I am doing it simply to share the pictures, because while they are present at the boards there are few extra people to see them. As I explained many times before I believe that the consensus about my and lycaon interaction was reached, and should be enforced. That's it. You may decline as many of my images as you wish, you may block me for edit warring for example, and after that decline my nominations. I will be absolutely fine with it, but I believe, if lycaon does not wish to respond my questions concerning his comments, if he ignores me completely, he should not be the one to review my images. If instead of declining my image, he would have promoted it, I assure you my reaction would have been absolutely the same.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:40, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[:File:Marbled Blenny Entomacrodus marmoratus.jpg]] ==

Since it is needlessly upsetting and divisive, could you please remove your reference to Lycaon on your review of this file's QIC nomination? I think that would help a bit. &ndash;<strong>[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]</strong>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 02:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:You appear to have done it already. I would not, since while I do not like Lycaon I do agree with him/her in this circumstance - the fish is not sharp, the image should be declined. I request you put back my comment. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 03:15, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::Please, please do, Matt back your comment only without mentioning lycaon and blocking me. I assure you I cannot care less, if the image is promoted or declined.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I added back your oppose, but without your reference to lycaon's review, that is not there. Hope it is ok with you.--04:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Pill MMB 16 Ham Green Lake.jpg|Ham Green Lake near Bristol. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)|Definetely a QI to me. [[User:ABF|ABF]] 11:22, 12 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Bristol MMB «58 Feeder Canal.jpg|A boat passes under a footbridge over the Feeder Canal in Bristol. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)| Something wrong here... Oh yes, it is not a train ! lol. Seriously : Nice pic, good light, a good use of the shadow IMO. QI to me.-[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 11 june 2010<br>I do take photos of things that aren't trains occasionally - ie stations when I'm waiting to take photos of a train. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 21:28, 11 June 2010 (UTC) Sorry bad joke... I was a bit provocative as usual... --[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 10:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC) }}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Harlech waves and houses.jpg|Looking out to sea from Harlech. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)|Didn't we have this one already? --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 10:45, 12 June 2010 (UTC)<br />Nice view, but what I don't like is the noise. Weak promotion from me. --[[User:Carschten|Carschten]] 16:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)}}

== [[:File:Eyjafjallajökull volcanic ash 4 may 2010.JPG]] ==

[[:File:Eyjafjallajökull volcanic ash 4 may 2010.PNG]] --[[User:LuisArmandoRasteletti|LuisArmandoRasteletti]] ([[User talk:LuisArmandoRasteletti|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:41, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

:[[:File:Eyjafjallajökull volcanic ash 4 may 2010.JPG]] Yes! I Blanked. Sustitucion for the [[:File:Eyjafjallajökull volcanic ash 4 may 2010.PNG]] --[[User:LuisArmandoRasteletti|LuisArmandoRasteletti]] ([[User talk:LuisArmandoRasteletti|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 23:41, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
::Righto, deleted. You don't need to add a new topic for every reply you know. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 00:57, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

== Unexplained removal of my vote by lycaon ==

what do you think about this [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Quality_images_candidates/candidate_list&diff=prev&oldid=40531780]? A time for a block just to be fair, you know.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 10:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not blocking Lycaon for that, it could be a mistake. Further, I'd appreciate in future if you don't try this sort of push to direct action when you've already started a thread on AN/U. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 12:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

== Try again.... ==

Are you sure you got the correct person [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AQuality_images_candidates%2Fcandidate_list&action=historysubmit&diff=40462832&oldid=40462752], 
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Quality_images_candidates/candidate_list&diff=prev&oldid=40469106], 
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Quality_images_candidates/candidate_list&diff=prev&oldid=40471262] and 
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AQuality_images_candidates%2Fcandidate_list&action=historysubmit&diff=40507579&oldid=40507334]? [[User:Lycaon|Lycaon]] ([[User talk:Lycaon|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks for doing the effort. [[User:Lycaon|Lycaon]] ([[User talk:Lycaon|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 10:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::My apologies for assuming I was being told the truth. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 13:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Newport Stn P1-2.jpg|Platforms 1 and 2 at Newport station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 16:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)|Sharp and good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 18:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Minffordd railway station MMB 01.jpg|Minffordd railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:34, 13 June 2010 (UTC)|Very good. --[[User:PS-2507|PS-2507]] 09:57, 15 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:37218 at Bristol Temple Meads.jpg}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Parson Street Station 12.jpg|221127 passes through Parson Street on its way to Edinburgh. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 14:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)|QI to me. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 19:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:D1062 Western Courier at Bridgnorth railway station.jpg|D1062 ''Western Courier'' stands idle at Bridgnorth railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)|OK. [[User:Lycaon|Lycaon]] 22:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:175011 Newport A.jpg}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Blaenau Ffestiniog railway station MMB 02.jpg|Blaenau Ffestiniog railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 16:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)|Good -- [[User:Smial|Smial]] 23:44, 18 June 2010 (UTC)}}


== [[:File:FRL-4H.jpg]] ==
{{Autotranslate|1=File:FRL-4H.jpg|2=|3=|base=Idw}} [[User:Ww2censor|Ww2censor]] ([[User talk:Ww2censor|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

{{talkback|ww2censor}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Blaenau Ffestiniog LNWR station MMB 01.jpg|The disused LNWR station in Blaenau Ffestiniog. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 13:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)|Little sharpness issue, but enough for QI --[[User:Niabot|Niabot]] 10:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Blaenau Ffestiniog railway station MMB 01.jpg|Looking east towards Blaenau Ffestiniog railway station from the A496 bridge. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 13:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)|Same as for previous nomination --[[User:Niabot|Niabot]] 10:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)}}

==Icon request==
As you created {{BS-q|WASSERqd}}, would it be possible for you to put together the opposite icon, i.e. with the water across and up but not down? It would be greatly appreciated for the route diagram which I'm putting together here {{w|User:Lamberhurst/Sandbox3#Lincolnshire Loop}}. [[User:Ravenseft|Ravenseft]] ([[User talk:Ravenseft|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:I could, but there is an easier way, which I've taken the liberty of doing in your diagram. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 21:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::Perfect. Many thanks for your help. [[User:Ravenseft|Ravenseft]] ([[User talk:Ravenseft|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Mass copy ==

I am not operating the category related parts of the bot. You should ask [[User:Siebrand|Siebrand]] or whoever is doing that currently. -- [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] (<small>[[User_talk:Bryan|talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me]]</small>) 14:28, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks for the reply. I think I did ask Siebrand at the same time as you, but the reply was a no. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 14:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Reading railway station MMB 50 220013.jpg|CrossCountry 220013 sits at Reading station, ready to depart with a service to Edinburgh. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC)|Nice composition, use of line. --[[User:King of Hearts|King of Hearts]] 02:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Tamworth railway station MMB 06 221142.jpg|221142 speeds north through Tamworth on the West Coast Main Line. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC)|Good, with some acceptable chromatic aberration. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 08:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Tamworth railway station MMB 12 221109.jpg|A Virgin Voyager heads south through Tamworth. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 09:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)|Best one of the four images. QI for me. --[[User:A.Ceta|A.Ceta]] 08:33, 21 July 2010 (UTC)}}

==Use of Commons photos==
Hi. I'm always trying to improve my understanding of the site's policies and guidelines, so I have a question. When you say, [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANightscream&action=historysubmit&diff=41668466&oldid=41667523 "general interpretation of CC requirements say that a link back to a page where the author is given is sufficient"], do you mean for use by external sites, or on Wikipedia, or both? I ask, because the disclaimer generated by the CC Attribution 3.0 license that one chooses from the pulldown menu on the upload page says, "attribution – You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work)." How exactly does this work? Thanks. [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]] ([[User talk:Nightscream|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:52, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:I honestly can't say - I'm not a lawyer. All I can say is that sending a link back to a source page - eg flickr - is generally deemed sufficient. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 16:26, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
::But for who? On Wikipedia or outside of it? (I just want to understand what you meant by this.) [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]] ([[User talk:Nightscream|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:31, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Anywhere. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 20:44, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Okay. I ask because the template that appears when you choose the Attribution 3.0 license says that "'''''attribution''' – You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).''" Thanks. :-) [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]] ([[User talk:Nightscream|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Take it up at [[COMT:L]]. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 22:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Tamworth railway station MMB 17 350117.jpg|350117 arrives at Tamworth. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 12:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Nottingham railway station MMB 07 222103.jpg|222103 departs Nottingham station bound for London St Pancras. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 19:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)|QI to me. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 14:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Nottingham railway station MMB 26 222103.jpg|222103 departs Nottingham station bound for London St Pancras. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 19:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)|Also good to me. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 14:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)}}

==First Great Western livery categories==
I've been looking at the FGW top category to try to sweep things into appropriate sub-categories. I notice that one of your pictures is still there — [[:File:Bristol Parkway railway station MMB 01.jpg]] — despite all your hard work on the livery cats. Do you want the privilege of moving it? [[User:Geof Sheppard|Geof Sheppard]] ([[User talk:Geof Sheppard|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 07:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:I hadn't got around to doing 150s yet, so just put it in the main cat. I have however now done 158,159,165,166,168,170,175,313 and 960s. I'll probably get to it in a week or so. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 10:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, also, I've made a few requests for comment about livery cat names at {{w|WT:UKRAIL}}. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 11:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Oxford railway station MMB 07 166220.jpg|166220 arrives at Oxford with a service to London Paddington. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 00:08, 24 July 2010 (UTC)|OK, noise imo acceptable, ISO 100 would perhaps been better --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 18:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Tamworth railway station MMB 13 350107.jpg|350107 departs Tamworth for Crewe. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)|Good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 17:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Tamworth railway station MMB 16 350117.jpg|350117 arrives at Tamworth. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)|Also good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 17:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Filton Abbey Wood MMB 04 150243.jpg|First Great Western 150243 at Filton Abbey Wood. Please note tilt is intentional - this close-up looked better at this orientation.  [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)|Very good. [[User:Pitke|Pitke]] 08:23, 29 July 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Filton Abbey Wood MMB 10 143618.jpg|143618 departs Filton Abbey Wood. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)|Good, though could use a touch more contrast. [[User:Pitke|Pitke]] 08:23, 29 July 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Rugby railway station MMB 12 350233.jpg|350233 stops at Rugby railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 12:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)|Good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 16:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Rugby railway station MMB 20 390017.jpg|390017 passes North through Rugby. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 12:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)|Good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 16:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Oxford railway station MMB 06 166220.jpg|166220 arrives at Oxford with a service to London Paddington. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 00:08, 24 July 2010 (UTC)|The objects frame one another quite nicely. Slightly oily (from a denoise?), but I think it's QI. --[[User:99of9|99of9]] 02:40, 29 July 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Filton Abbey Wood MMB 02 67030.jpg|EWS 67030 stops at Filton Abbey Wood. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)|Good; lighting would be a bit odd, but makes sense with the funny man on the doorstep of the engine. [[User:Rama|Rama]] 12:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC) }}
{{QICpromoted|File:Nottingham railway station MMB 21 43047.jpg|43047 arrives at Nottingham leading a service from London. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 19:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)|Would prefer a tighter crop at the top. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 14:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)<br>I did consider that, but decided it made the image seem unbalanced. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:16, 23 July 2010 (UTC)<br>I'd also favour a tighter crop at the top, but it's good anyhow. [[User:Rama|Rama]] 12:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Willesden Junction railway station MMB 02 378005.jpg|378005 at Willesden Junction. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 08:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)|Looks very good to me. --[[User:Petritap|Petritap]] 10:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)}}

== QI promotion ==

Thank you. The blown highlight bugged me too, BTW. But nobody gets away with challenging [http://imgur.com/6pPQz.jpg Colossus'] [http://imgur.com/rsAJ7.jpg sheer] [http://imgur.com/HsiY1.jpg size]. ;D You'd have to meet him to appreciate it. :D [[User:Collard|Lewis Collard!]] <small>([[User_talk:Collard|lol]], [[Special:Contributions/Collard|internet]])</small> 23:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
:He does look quite substantial in those, the one you nominated didn't really give a sense of scale. Go promote my trains :p -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 00:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Leamington Spa railway station MMB 02 221127.jpg|CrossCountry 221127 leaves Leamington Spa. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)|Very nice composition. Would like to see a touch more contrast if it doesn't look too unnatural for a cloudy day photo. [[User:Pitke|Pitke]] 16:37, 31 July 2010 (UTC)}}

== [[User:Freimut Bahlo]] ==
Hi, you blocked him infinite. As the LoC put some 1600 pics of "The Golden Area of Jazz" to PD, i could need his help uploading. [[:Category:Photographs by William P. Gottlieb]], [[:Template:PD-Gottlieb]] [http://lcweb2.loc.gov/diglib/ihas/html/gottlieb/gottlieb-home.html], [http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/sets/72157624588645784] -- [[User:Cherubino|Cherubino]] ([[User talk:Cherubino|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:25, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:Unblocked. Please keep him from uploading copyvios in future. I think my block was a bit severe though - I may have mishit the block command on that one :/ -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 22:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanx! :-) [[User:Cherubino|Cherubino]] ([[User talk:Cherubino|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:60163 Tornado on the West Somerset Railway at Crowcome Heathfield station 2 June 2009 pic 1.jpg|60163 ''Tornado'' arrives at Crowcombe Heathfield. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 14:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)|looks tilted cw or is reality tilted there? --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 20:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br>Reality is always tilted, but I have now rotated it by 0.88 degrees - does it look better now? [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 20:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br>OK now --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 09:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:60163 Tornado steam locomotive Tamar Tornado near Flax Bourton 8 August 2009.jpg|60163 ''Tornado'' passes Flax Bourton. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 14:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 20:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:378005 HKC 01.jpg|378005 arrives into Hackney Central. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 11:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 17:54, 2 August 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Aberglaslyn xWHR MMB 01.jpg|The waters of Aberglaslyn from the Welsh Highland Railway. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 11:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)|goood view, interesting landscape --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 00:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Rugby railway station MMB 05 57307.jpg|Virgin Thunderbird 57307 "Lady Penelope" at Rugby. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 17:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 01:50, 5 August 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:37324 at Toddington railway station (3).jpg|37324 departs Toddington on the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 11:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)|Good photo, reminds me on my train excursions. --[[User:PetarM|PetarM]] 13:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)}}

== my topic ban ==

hi, could you please write a formal proposal for my topic ban that it could be voted upon. As I explained at AN/U I cannot ban myself voluntarily.  Thanks.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Nottingham Pride 2010 MMB 01.JPG|A policeman talks to a man on stilts at Nottingham Pride 2010. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 23:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Tasto|Tasto]] 13:30, 8 August 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Narroways Jct 4.jpg|A CrossCountry HST passes Narroways Junction. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 11:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)|Nice composition, including all junction point-work, on an exceptionally clear day so background very clear. Like it very much. Wonder if cropping out less interesting right side, including the crane like machine, would improve it. [[User:Rwendland|Rwendland]] 17:14, 8 August 2010 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Nottingham Pride MMB 44.jpg|The police pose for photos with some strangely-dressed people at Nottingham Pride. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:36, 8 August 2010 (UTC)|Ok. --[[User:Kallerna|kallerna]] 15:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Bristol MMB «49 Feeder Canal.jpg|A bricked-up doorway on the Feeder Canal in Bristol. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:09, 4 August 2010 (UTC)| this picture is a bit unsharp but the composition and the lighting is beautiful, QI IMO --[[User:Croucrou|Croucrou]] 11:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)}}

== Please stop category spamming on [[:Category:Electric guitars]], [[:Category:Acoustic guitars]], etc. ==

Hi, Mattbuck.

Please stop category spamming on [[:Category:Electric guitars]], [[:Category:Acoustic guitars]]. You added a lots of images under [[:Category:Kenelis]] and [[:Category:Mel Sanson]] to [[:Category:Electric guitars]], [[:Category:Acoustic guitars]], but these guitar categories are not appropriate for guitarists and vocalists with guitars. Please consider the use of sub-category of [[:Category:Guitarists]], or create new sub-category under it. 

Additionally, almost same images should be grouped by '''sub-category''' or '''<nowiki><gallery/></nowiki> in other_versions field''' to avoid crowding '''other''' categories. 
: '''P.S.''' Usage of "''other_version''" field to avoid category chaos was mentioned at  [[Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2010Jun#Category_chaos]], too. 

best regards, --[[User:Shoulder-synth|Shoulder-synth]] ([[User talk:Shoulder-synth|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:04, 20 August 2010 (UTC) [edited]--[[User:Shoulder-synth|Shoulder-synth]] ([[User talk:Shoulder-synth|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:30, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

:It was a photo of someone with an electric guitar, hence I added it to a category for electric guitars. To me, this seems sensible - categorising an image by its content. I don't know much about guitars, I know craploads about trains instead, so I just put them in the best categories I could. That is how wikis work - you do what you can, and then if it's not perfect, someone who is an expert in that field comes along and corrects it. There is no subcat "people playing electric guitars", otherwise I'd have put it there. And Other_versions should be left for images which are actually other versions of the same file, not just ones which are similar - that is what categories for. I grant that Docu mentioned that, and that you have found one comment in however many years of commons to support your opinion, but general consensus is for other versions to actually be other versions. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 15:53, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

:: At first, You said "may I suggest using your userspace ?", then you said "general consensus" at here. 
::* What is "suggest using my userspace" ? I can't understand your metaphor at all.
::* Where is the "general consensus" you said ? 
::* Why you ignore the discussion on [[Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2010Jun#Category_chaos]] ?
:: In my opinion, your story seems to be difficult to justify.  --[[User:Shoulder-synth|Shoulder-synth]] ([[User talk:Shoulder-synth|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:34, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::You aren't citing a discussion so much as one person's offhand remark. When I said "suggest using your userspace", it was in response to your rather shouty revert summary "I AM WORKING ON THESE IMAGES. PLEASE WAITING FOR..." which led me to believe you were using the gallery as a way of listing which images you were working on - which should be done in userspace rather than imagespace. As for where the general consensus is, it's on every image which doesn't list 100 similar images in other_versions. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 16:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

:::: Your personal opinion is not the "general consensus" on Wikimedia Commons.  On Wikimedia Commons,  "general consensus" is formed by discussion on community. You seems to fail to form consensus at here, in my opinion.
:::: Anyway, if you think listing of hundred of similar images are too complicated, you should consider the use of subcategory such like a [[:Category:Mel Sanson with acoustic guitar]]. But on this issues, the number of similar images is far from hundred. --[[User:Shoulder-synth|Shoulder-synth]] ([[User talk:Shoulder-synth|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:14, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::I simply don't see the need for any gallery here - there is a perfectly appropriate category (Mel Sanson) which they are all in and which can be browsed at will rather than cluttering up an image page with a gallery. Your choice of pictures for the gallery is completely arbitrary - you leave out many which are in the cat and similar, instead choosing only a select few for no obvious reason. I honestly couldn't care less about the guitar categories - I don't know guitars, I have no wish to. As a layman, I put photos of someone with an acoustic guitar in the acoustic guitar category - is that really so bad as to warrant your accusing me of spamming the category? -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 17:34, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::: The subject of discussion is a problem of category chaos, not the usage of gallery. 
:::::: And the problem is not only the guitar category but also other categories including [[:Category:Men of England]], [[:Category:Females with microphones]], [[:Category:Jeans]], ''etc''. Most user and maintainer of these categories might dislike category spam by similar images.
:::::: Before adding hundreds of images to categories, you should carefully assess destination categories. And if you once check these categories (before or after!), you could found some mistakes, certainly. 
:::::: That's all. 
:::::: I expect your categorization skill may improve if you continuously check your categorization in good faith. --[[User:Shoulder-synth|Shoulder-synth]] ([[User talk:Shoulder-synth|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:11, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, pardon me, good faith. Right. The whole POINT of categories is to group similar images together, and I find your assertion that adding images to relevant categories is "spam" is NOT good faith. I check my categories - I don't put things in categories that aren't relevant. Is it a photo of Mel Sanson? Yes. Does she have a microphone? Yes - ergo she is a female with a microphone, and thus should be in the relevant category. Is there an acoustic guitar? Yes. Is there a category "people playing acoustic guitars"? No. Ergo, put it in the relevant category, acoustic guitars. I tried responding to you with good faith, all you've done in return is continuously claim I'm a spammer for putting things IN RELEVANT CATEGORIES. I encourage you to create more relevant categories, I don't know what the guitar subcats need, I leave that to someone who knows the subject. In short, show some good faith and maybe you'll be shown some in return. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 18:32, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::: To me it sounds wise to add [[:Category:Guitars]] on images where it is possible to get a good view on the guitar. We should not add all possible categories to all images. So if only 1/10 of the guitar is visible then the category should not be added. If you think there is too many images in the category it would be possible to create a subcategory for "People playing a guitar". --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:50, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Nottingham Pride MMB 83 Kenelis.jpg|Mel Sanson of Kenelis performs at Nottingham pride. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)|OK to me. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 17:58, 18 August 2010 (UTC)}}

== Stuff ==

I was trying to think of something on the Doctor revert earlier - made me smile anyway.  I see Nard is now having a go at provoking PK...  I need to go and talk to an ostrich I think.  Cheers --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 15:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

:IMO Kuiper will end up banned within a few days again anyway, it's only a matter of time. As for the doctor, what can I say, I see strange crap I remove it. I don't suggest talking to an ostrich - I hear they're rather mean-tempered brutes. I think one tried to shag Michael Buerk once. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 16:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== Blinked Kentwood ==

Thanks. I've just been to about 5 wikis removing the images; some bot will get any I might have missed. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 01:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:No problem. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 01:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

We've had many disagreements (and probably will have some more in the feature), but tonight unblock was nice and brave of you. I am glad that you do not get upset with me because of my jokes (sometimes it is the only thing that is left for me). I am afraid not everybody takes my Russian sense of humor as stoically as you are {{smile}}, but after all tonight image, and my block were your own fault {{smile}} Remember you wanted to topic ban me, and I asked you to write a proposal, and...here we go again {{smile}} Best.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 02:56, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pieter Kuiper ==

Why have you blocked [[User:Pieter Kuiper|Pieter Kuiper]]? I see no direct reason, no discussion and no warning. Please reconsider your block.
<br/>Kind regards, <font style="color:#2f4f4f">[[User:Kameraad Pjotr|Kameraad Pjotr]]</font> 17:55, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

:There has been plenty of discussion and warning - we spent several weeks wringing our hands over his last block. He's come back, has been as abrasive as ever and has threatened two admins already. I see no need for another round of pointless arguing over it when it's clear he hasn't changed, will never change (see his block log) and frankly gets on the nerves of a lot of people. Maybe his wall of shame wasn't restored by him, but he was told to remove it, and it's still there - it's his userpage, so his responsibility on that one. Maybe it isn't as explicit as before, but the intent is still the same - crowing over people's mistakes. He harms the community, he wastes our time, he makes us all feel like crap because we have to keep arguing about him. Again and again and again and again and again. This has to stop. I stopped it. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 18:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
::I know of the older discussions, but what is the reason for blocking him now? Has he done anything now to be blocked? 
::Kind regards, <font style="color:#2f4f4f">[[User:Kameraad Pjotr|Kameraad Pjotr]]</font> 18:21, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Accusing people of lying, intimidating behaviour, continued bad attitude, <s>forum-shopping</s>, etc. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 18:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Correction - forum-shopping appears to be from last time. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 18:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Can you give some concrete examples? <font style="color:#2f4f4f">[[User:Kameraad Pjotr|Kameraad Pjotr]]</font> 18:42, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::See the beginning of [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:AN/U#Adam_Cuerden.27s_personal_attacks the AN/U thread], and [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:AN/U#User:Mbz1_:_topic_ban_on_Israel-Palestine here he calls Rama a troll]. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 18:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
FYI, I was going to revert myself on his user page after you blocked him as it doesn't matter now. I have no feelings either way over the block itself, I just don't want you to think I was supporting (or opposing) the "wall of shame" or his behavior in general. [[User:Rocket000|Rocket000]] ([[User talk:Rocket000|talk]]) 10:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:...Uhm, OK. I'm not sure I'd even realised you were involved with it. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 10:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, nevermind. :) [[User:Rocket000|Rocket000]] ([[User talk:Rocket000|talk]]) 20:14, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Nottingham Pride MMB 75 Kenelis.jpg|Mel Sanson of Kenelis performs at Nottingham pride. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 17:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)|{{comment}} Could you lighten it up a little? --[[User:King of Hearts|King of Hearts]] 19:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)<br>{{done}} [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 21:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)<br>OK, {{support}} --[[User:King of Hearts|King of Hearts]] 19:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)}}

== ec... ==

Well "block conflict" actually.  It is a dynamic one unless he has changed his isp tho. --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 18:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
:If you're talking about ME, he's German, and they ALL change IPs every 24hrs. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 18:21, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Conwy Castle MMB 07.jpg|Looking down on the down of Conwy from the castle. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)|QI --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 23:55, 26 August 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Tal-y-Cafn MMB 01 Afon Conwy.jpg|The River Conwy at Tal-y-Cafn. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 23:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)}}

==[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Selhurst_Holmesdale.jpg This photo]==
This is a heavily used image but from the 3 week old DR I'm not sure Commons can keep it. The copyright owner never didn't give any verbal permission at all unlike the other [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Possibly_unfree_Panoramio_images possibly unfree] panoramio images here. (in those cases, some AGF should be exercised) Admin MGA73 has tried to contact the copyright owner without success thus far...but I suspect he has been away from panoramio for a long time--maybe 1-2 years. You can contact MGA73 if you want but if nothing happens, someone will have to delete it eventually. Maybe you? By all rights, this DR has crossed the normal 1 week boundary long ago but <u>its a heavily used image.</u> 

But without any sign of permission what does one do? Hence, the dilemma. Best Regards, --[[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

*PS: This is the only possible replacement but its really poor:
*[[:File:Selhurst Park, Holmesdale Road Stand - geograph.org.uk - 138710.jpg]]

Well, I'm in Western Canada....but I think you're English. Though you may not live near this structure. --[[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

:Nowhere near I'm afraid, although I will at least be in the same city next week. I've deleted it, might see if I can get a photo, but probably not - I'll be at a conference most of the time. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 11:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
*Well if you can get a good photo that would be appreciated. If not, well such is life. Regards, --[[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Nottingham Pride MMB A5.jpg|A girl at Nottingham Pride. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 17:56, 19 August 2010 (UTC)|IMHO nice portrait. — [[User:Jagro|Jagro]] 13:21, 27 August 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Blaenau Ffestiniog railway station MMB 05 Merddin Emrys.jpg}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|File:Tal-y-llyn MMB 02.jpg|Lake Tal-y-llyn. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 18:47, 28 August 2010 (UTC)}}

== watch your language ==

[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=43353367 this is  unacceptable language]. Please stop it.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

:Please explain how any of that is rude. I'm asking what you're looking to get out of this. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 12:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::It is not exactly rude, but the tone of your involvement in that matter was inappropriate to say the least. --[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] ([[User talk:Mbz1|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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{{QICpromoted|File:Conwy Estuary MMB 04.jpg|The Conwy Estuary from Deganwy. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)| Very good atmosphere, well done.--[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 10:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Bury Ditches MMB 03.jpg|Bury Ditches hill fort. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)|Very good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 18:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Bury Ditches MMB 05.jpg|Bury Ditches hill fort. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)|Good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 09:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Pont Croesor MMB 01.jpg|Flooding near Pont Croesor. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)|Good -- [[User:George Chernilevsky|George Chernilevsky]] 16:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Porthmadog Harbour railway station MMB 01 Prince.jpg|''Prince'' at Porthmadog Harbour station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 15:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)|Good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 07:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Llandudno railway station MMB 02 175112.jpg|175112 at Llandudno. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 22:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)|QI to me. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 20:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Pont Croesor MMB 02.jpg|Pont Croesor in Gwynedd. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 04:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Hedging MMB 03 Bridgwater and Taunton Canal.jpg|A canoeist on the Bridgwater and Taunton Canal near Hedging. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)|nice.--[[User:Mbz1|Mbz1]] 04:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Durston MMB 04 Bridgwater and Taunton Canal.jpg|The Bridgwater Canal at Durston. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 13:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)|I like it, good idea and good composition supported by nice colours. Technically OK. -- [[User:Rama|Rama]] 06:45, 2 September 2010 (UTC) }}
{{QICpromoted|File:Pont Croesor MMB 05.jpg|Detail on a rail at Pont Croesor. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 03:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)|imo a bit boaring, perhaps better at an interesting point, e.g. a track switch --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 18:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)<br />{{support}} probably not so high EV but good photography in terms of composition (diagonal band) and colour intensity contrast (red rust against neutral grey BG) --[[User:Ikiwaner|Ikiwaner]] 18:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Aberglaslyn WHR MMB 08.jpg|A dog leaning out of the window of a Welsh Highland Railway train. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)|Nice and good. --[[User:Cayambe|Cayambe]] 08:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Aberglaslyn WHR MMB 03.jpg|Beddgelert, viewed from Aberglaslyn. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 02:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)|{{comment}} The description should be changed. I presume Beddgelert is the village (which is hardly visible) not the mountain (which is the focus of this image). --[[User:Quartl|Quartl]] 07:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)Description is correct. Nice intense colours and full of athmosphere --[[User:Ikiwaner|Ikiwaner]] 18:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Hopton Heath railway station MMB 06.jpg|Hopton Heath railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 13:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)|{{sup}} Good composition, good use of perspective. --[[User:Kae|Kae]] 22:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)}}

== [[:File:Nottingham Pride MMB 33 Pride march.jpg]] ==

You might know something about this file. Add license ASAP or will be deleted. Thanks, '''<font color="navy" face="comic sans ms">[[User talk:ZooFari|Zoo]]</font><font color="orange" face="comic sans ms">[[User talk:ZooFari|Fari]]</font>''' 05:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks - forgot to close the info template. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 06:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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{{QICpromoted|File:Llandudno railway station MMB 03 175112.jpg|175112 at Llandudno. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:45, 3 September 2010 (UTC)|Like the composition track-road-track with station building in background. [[User:Rwendland|Rwendland]] 13:57, 3 September 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Bridgwater railway station MMB 06.jpg|Inside the footbridge at Bridgwater railway station.  [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 11:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)| Good to me.--[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 00:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Conwy Castle MMB 05.jpg|Conwy river viewed from the castle/ [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 03:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)|better --[[User:Carschten|Carschten]] 15:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Tan-y-Bwlch railway station MMB 04 Merddin Emrys.jpg|''Merddin Emrys'' at Tan-y-Bwlch. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 03:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)|interested and very good composition --[[User:Carschten|Carschten]] 15:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Llandudno Junction railway station MMB 05.jpg|Llandudno Junction railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 01:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)|OK --[[User:George Chernilevsky|George Chernilevsky]] 05:49, 10 September 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Bury Ditches MMB 02.jpg|Bury Ditches hill fort. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 17:21, 10 September 2010 (UTC)|nice --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 17:41, 10 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Bridgwater railway station MMB 09.jpg|Bridgwater railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 17:21, 10 September 2010 (UTC)|nice --[[User:Mbdortmund|Mbdortmund]] 17:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Bridgwater railway station MMB 02 43366.jpg|43366 heads south through Bridgwater. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:45, 3 September 2010 (UTC)|nice --[[User:Carschten|Carschten]] 18:05, 10 September 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Tal-y-Cafn railway station MMB 02.jpg|Tal-y-cafn railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:49, 11 September 2010 (UTC)|good --[[User:Carschten|Carschten]] 13:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Porthmadog Harbour railway station MMB 03 Blanche & Prince.jpg|''Blance'' heads ''Prince'' on a rainy day in Porthmadog. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 11:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)|okay --[[User:Carschten|Carschten]] 12:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Aberglaslyn WHR MMB 07.jpg|A Welsh Highland Railway approaches the bridge at Aberglaslyn. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 11:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)|interesting view --[[User:Carschten|Carschten]] 12:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)}}
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{{QICpromoted|File:Bath MMB 14 River Avon.jpg|Bath weir. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 16:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)| Nice --[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 16:59, 12 September 2010 (UTC)}}

== Bristol/Gloucestershire ==

I was unaware of the administrative entity that the railway station lies in.  This however then makes the 'Bristol' category somewhat redundant.  The image cannot be in two administrative districts, unless of course the image shows two administrative districts (for example [[:File:M62 Scammonden Bridge to Windy Hill.jpg]] which was quite difficult to accurately categorise given the wide range of things it shows in the unitary districts of both [[w:Kirklees|Kirklees]] and [[w:Calderdale|Calderdale]]).  For commons purposes it is generally best to use administrative boundaries because it is impossible to categories images given everyone's differing definitions on cities. [[User:Mtaylor848|Mtaylor848]] ([[User talk:Mtaylor848|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:51, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:Well, normally I'd agree, but Bristol is a bit of a grey area due to boundary considerations - one can travel within the conurbation from (South) Gloucestershire to (North) Somerset quite easily. My personal view is that anything in the north within the bounds of the M5, M4, A4174 is Bristol, even though if it is administratively Gloucestershire. Of course, Bristol could also be a subcat of Somerset, due to ceremonial counties. Even moreso, even if it is technically Gloucestershire, the station is called Bristol, so it would seem sensible to put the images there as well. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 16:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== About the file "Map of Sofia from 1972 (detail)" ==

Hi, Mattbuck

I would like to ask you about the file I've uploaded. The author or copyright holder agreement needed is not available, as the map was made by the Bulgarian State Cartography Institute (ГУГК), which after the political changes in 1989 was renamed to "Cartography Ltd." (Картография ЕООД) and existed until 2008, when officially ceased it's activities. On the other hand it's just a part of the map, so what should I do in this case?
Thanks [[User:Vasilcho|Vasilcho]] ([[User talk:Vasilcho|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

:I'm honestly not sure what happens in cases like this - you should probably ask at [[Commons talk:Licensing]], but I believe that under EU law the authors retain copyright until 70 years after their death. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 18:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
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{{QICpromoted|File:Bath weir MMB 01.jpg|The weir on the River Avon in Bath. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 14:47, 13 September 2010 (UTC)|{{support}} very good to me.--[[User:Jebulon|Jebulon]] 08:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Tan-y-Bwlch railway station MMB 01.jpg|Tan-y-Bwlch railway station. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 16:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)|Good --[[User:George Chernilevsky|George Chernilevsky]] 06:19, 18 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Tal-y-llyn MMB 03.jpg|A swan on Lake Tal-y-llyn. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 10:49, 11 September 2010 (UTC)|QI for me --[[User:George Chernilevsky|George Chernilevsky]] 06:11, 18 September 2010 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|File:Bury Ditches MMB 06.jpg|The view from Bury Ditches hill fort. [[User:Mattbuck|Mattbuck]] 17:21, 10 September 2010 (UTC)|Good --[[User:George Chernilevsky|George Chernilevsky]] 06:09, 18 September 2010 (UTC)}}