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Why deleting the names for the Croatian flag in all those language, do you know how long it took for me to collect them. -- [[User:Rainman|Rainman]] 22:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Why deleting the names for the Croatian flag in all those language, do you know how long it took for me to collect them. -- [[User:Rainman|Rainman]] 22:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

==== Supporting R-41 version ====
Is supporting a user who is involved in [[:en:Talk:Flag of Yugoslavia]] and supporting the version that we cannot agree upon. Not to list the black marten, greenish 1st, 3rd and 5th section of the Crown but the fact that this colours have been taken by a lazy webmaster of Croatian Government who took it from http://www.flags.net/CROA.htm

He (the administrator) took the file that is the authorship of one person - that being - G. Bartram.

From where did he take such colours and such design I do not know, but those colours and those design is not the colours of the Croatian flag and are not comparable with the design on Commons. So R-41 took some colours but not the entire design which is in itself dubious.

Why do you agree with a person who wants to use Serbian colours for the flags of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and insist that those colours have been same in SFRY and all of the republics flags of the SFRY and the latter FRY and SCG. Some of those attempts can be read [[:en:Talk:Flag of Yugoslavia]].

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UN Map of Croatia

I have worked my ass off correcting the wrong names of places (towns, etc.) on the UN map. Map of 1.05 MB is not useful because even if thumbed to 300px it is still too big and the users of Wikipedia cannot see the map. Please do not put your vision of the map onto mine because the orriginal map shows the name Pelješac as if it's an island (brown) instead a peninsula (green). Brijuni are not named, Novigradsko more is an lake, names of places are written without orriginal characters. Etc. And the greatest mistake of the UN map is showing SiCG as still existing. I have separated the two. Please. Jabuka, Palagruža and Galijula (southernmost Croatian island are not shown). Imbris 01:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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See the discussion and then change something

Discussion about the Flag of Croatia is at the link and please not change something just because you do not aggree with me. Read the Law and please do not be so dependent of images of the European Union or some photographs. Read the disscussion under the title Blue or Navy Blue -- Rainman 23:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're infiltrating this discussion with WWII and Homeland war. What are you trying to do, and why. Beats me. And to correct you. I am not one of those people who want the goat to be red, it is not my colour. If you understand me. But neither is dark blue. If you catch my drift. -- Rainman 03:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I want to do it the decent way. Au contraire, its you who is infiltrating the whole discussion. You are complaining all the time. Nobody understands your point. Why? Because its pointless. Your argumentation is based on very broad and imprecise regulations. This is not enough evidence for your interpretation your putting in. Let's focus on the discussion there. --Minestrone 17:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Which decent way. One you are tricked to belive is right. Emotions, emotions. My point that it is blue not dark blue. You on the other hand have instrumented this discusion into a pointless one, I hope that the admins wouldn't regard your "decent way" as anything near an argument. It is not imprecise, you haven't even read it. There is plenty of evidence, but you are not interested to see it. I will try to discuss less and less with you because you are putting false accusations on my account. I respect all of the trouble our people gone thruogh, but our people fought to get ride of the red star, not SRH. Who knows, you might have a different perspective to this Constitutional fact. 1990. gave our people a chance for reconciliation and not divisions. -- Rainman 22:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever. You are so weird... --Minestrone 09:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And you are not? -- Rainman 00:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Synchronization

Do you know what this mean, meaning, here on Wikipedia. -- Rainman 00:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who agreed on the usage of dark blue?

Nobody. Lupo just posted something to open the workspace. -- Rainman 00:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion is about everything

Not just about the blue band/stripe of the Flag. -- Rainman 00:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Goat

Where have you seen the usage of outer ear and that spot near the tail? No where, I thaught so. -- Rainman 00:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where have you seen the usage of anything else for the colour of the horns than red. -- Rainman 00:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Position of the six pointed Venus star called Danitza

Must be the same on the 1st and 5th section of the Crown. -- Rainman 00:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your tough guy position is what is unacceptable

That blue #0000F7 is used in an official document, find out in my discussion which. And this is inacceptable to you only. -- Rainman 00:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is happening?

Why are you doing this? Do you not see that nor France, not European Commision or the entire European Union, nor USA is not the key to solve this. Have you at least thought about any of this, or just work on your own hand - just for fun. I have seen your kind on Wikipedia, not interested in anything but making jockes and having fun by constant complaining and arguing. Please stop what you are doing and wait to Lupo's return, if not there are lots of admins here. -- Rainman 22:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are a little bit to much pretencious

If you cannot be bothered by discussing, nor contributing to either the discussion nor the graphical know-how, then why are you demanding attention to your acceptance or not acceptance of your position. Your position is invisible to me, you have not presented it, sourced it, you have not discussed about it in a calm manner, nor discussed about it as set by the Lupo Rules. Lupo had ruled that workspace is to be used until a common version is to be moved from the workspace to the main space area. You have moved the file in clear breach of that rule and other rules. You cannot demand that your position is to be taken seriously if you do not folow the rules. And in conclusion, you cannot expect that your version is to be left alone when not synchronized with all of the dependent imagery. First you do that - what is expected of you. Then a file can be changed - until then you should leave the situation as it is. No one is objecting but you. If you cannot be bothered by synchronization then you are not serious in your claims that your position is correct. -- Rainman 23:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Stop this edit-war, accept fact, join discussion. I accept the rules and obey them, no matter you say otherwise. Don't preach about something you are not doing. -- Rainman 22:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


What do you realy want with your behaviour. -- Rainman 23:55, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Why are you bringing this discussion up to impossible one. Your talk that it should be like is France - this is pure blasfemy and unknowledge. Your proofs like Vecernji list - shamed themselves by giving the wrong coloured flag few years ago. Is that flag what you are reffering to. Everybody knows that it is wrong. Where do you live, in Split perhaps, like does Ante Perkovic. -- Rainman 00:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your Flag

Not correct because the U must be dark navy blue. See wikisource at this link. -- Rainman 18:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but don't know this image. --Minestrone 20:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You don't know this image. You have corrected the colours for it and corrected it wrong. And what am I suggesting. -- Rainman 22:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You must be dreaming. See history: [1] --Minestrone 22:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
17:50, 19 January 2007 Minestrone (Talk | contribs) 1,000×667 17 KB Enhanced version. Correct colors. As it is stated here. If this is not the correct information, then I am truly sorry. But this is a different topic than Flag of Croatia.svg Why are you seeing what does not exist, you are seeing ghost's man. -- Rainman 18:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Even the log file states your doing. Look at it. -- Rainman 18:42, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can't see any major changes. What's the problem with you? --Minestrone 12:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You have made this change. Then said you have not done any changes. Which of your position is correct. Have you looked at the log file - Look at it. And stop stating that you are not one of the editors of this flag. You have edited it falsely. Have you looked at the hr.wikisource.org link I provided to you. There is written that the U must be of darker navy blue than those navy blue of the third band. Have you any respect for the Law? -- Rainman 00:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Right, whatever comes up to your mind. This is not Rainmanpedia. Please stick to the rules. Give me the exact wording of the law - the exact sentence that says it. --Minestrone 17:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See wikisource at this link. And why had you stated that you do not know what flag I am talking about. -- Rainman 22:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maps of German states

Hello, Minestrone! You provided a lot of blank maps like Image:Germany map modern.png or as an alternative Image:Germany map blank.png which seem to use en:equirectangular projection for use in location maps. May I ask you to create some more for the different German states (like Baden-Württemberg, Bavaria and so on) which have their focus on a single state (as an example your map of Scotland which is part of the UK)? At least I haven't found any blank maps yet which use that projection and have a similar or equal style (which style ever) through all the 16 states. If you would do so, it would be great to get the exact coordinates of the respective map borders, too, if possible. Best regards -- JörgM 13:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, too much stress at the moment and I don't think that I'm really the best one to ask. Ask our fellow German colleagues - I'm sure somebody can help: Kartenwünsche. --Minestrone 19:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, but thank you for response. I hope there will be a time with less stress for you again. Best regards -- JörgM 21:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Compromise on the Image talk:Flag of Croatia.svg

I hope that you would "come to the table" and compromise on the talk page (cited in the headline). I have made a colour which might be considered a compromisal but also a graphicaly well balanced one. It is a nonHTML colour that can be very easily printed. CMYK of the blue is 100-80-0-15 that is in RGB (hex) #002BD9 & RGB (0, 43, 217) and it is even darker than #0000FF. You can check it out Image:Flag of Croatia icon.svg.

You should consider not only how to defend using the colours from the Flag of France (not because I say so, not even because the colours of the French flag are not proscribed and even one might find those that do not consider them dark enough, because they have been darker before Chirac and Mitterand) but because those colour are HTML colours that are difficult to print and they are not balanced with the CMYK. Flag of Slovenia for example has CMYK 100-80-0-10 and other well defined colour standards that are to be used when the flag is printed on paper (for coated or gloss paper, for uncoated paper and for matte or dull paper, cotton (dyed cotton) and plastics (for opaque and transparent colors). We do not have that but have a possibility to compromise and reach a consensus which could lead to more standardized form of the Croatian Flag. If you are a graphic designer then you could help in searching for appropriate standards (like the Slovene have).

Rainman 21:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Your behaviour is destructive. Without consideration of any standards and somewhat desperate. Do you know that you have not received aproval to change anything. On the other hand I did receive aproval of the orriginal uploader. Your claim that colour of the Flag of France must be used is worthy of nothing but a good laugh. You do not discuss, do not justify (other than with newspapers images, and for the record Večernji list is not so good reference regarding the Croatian Flag, one year they have given away with every issue of that particular newspaper a flag that was in the broadest community (not mentioning experts) laught at as phony - colour and design wise), do not reference yourself. You use just brute force and nothing else. This is not an option when serious discussion are led, one of the Wikipedia admins that deals a lot with flags will look at this question and solve it and lock the file so you could not edit it no longer. This revert war that you are doing will not help you. -- Rainman 23:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sad to see you calling me a vandal. Reverting without reasoning and without stating evidence, even without description is damaging to commons and leads only to such edit-wars and misunderstanding. -- Rainman 22:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Names in other languages

Why deleting the names for the Croatian flag in all those language, do you know how long it took for me to collect them. -- Rainman 22:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Supporting R-41 version

Is supporting a user who is involved in en:Talk:Flag of Yugoslavia and supporting the version that we cannot agree upon. Not to list the black marten, greenish 1st, 3rd and 5th section of the Crown but the fact that this colours have been taken by a lazy webmaster of Croatian Government who took it from http://www.flags.net/CROA.htm

He (the administrator) took the file that is the authorship of one person - that being - G. Bartram.

From where did he take such colours and such design I do not know, but those colours and those design is not the colours of the Croatian flag and are not comparable with the design on Commons. So R-41 took some colours but not the entire design which is in itself dubious.

Why do you agree with a person who wants to use Serbian colours for the flags of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and insist that those colours have been same in SFRY and all of the republics flags of the SFRY and the latter FRY and SCG. Some of those attempts can be read en:Talk:Flag of Yugoslavia.

Rainman 21:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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