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:::::None? They are both nominated for deletion. [[User:The Squirrel Conspiracy|The Squirrel Conspiracy]] ([[User talk:The Squirrel Conspiracy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:20, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::None? They are both nominated for deletion. [[User:The Squirrel Conspiracy|The Squirrel Conspiracy]] ([[User talk:The Squirrel Conspiracy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:20, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::In Israel, the law allows to use pictures of works that are presented in the public area. [[User:Nizzan Cohen|Nizzan Cohen]] ([[User talk:Nizzan Cohen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::In Israel, the law allows to use pictures of works that are presented in the public area. [[User:Nizzan Cohen|Nizzan Cohen]] ([[User talk:Nizzan Cohen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::{{tl|FoP-Israel}} describes the law as {{color|#00F|"The reproduction of this architectural work, work of sculpture or work of applied art, is covered under the Israeli copyright statute (2007), which states that "Broadcasting, or copying by way of photography, drawing, sketch or similar visual description, of an architectural work, a work of sculpture or work of applied art, are permitted where the aforesaid work is permanently situated in a public place."}}. The pertinent part here is "permanently". Israeli freedom of panorama allows you to photograph buildings, statues, even permanently installed signs (like [[:File:PikiWiki Israel 85062 a mushroom and a half in the timna valley.jpg|this one in Timna]]). It does not, however, protect temporary displays. [[Commons:Freedom of panorama#Permanent vs temporary]] has the relevant definitions for what is and isn't considered permanent for freedom of panorama. The gist though is this: These posters are there to raise awareness of the hostages. If a peace treaty were signed tomorrow and all of the hostages were released, the posters would be taken down. That means they're not permanent. [[User:The Squirrel Conspiracy|The Squirrel Conspiracy]] ([[User talk:The Squirrel Conspiracy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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Files in Category:Call for the return the abducted of 2023 Israel–Hamas war

Per Commons:Deletion requests/File:תמונות החטופים הישראלים בעזה, מרכז הקניות של רובע א' באשדוד, דצמבר 2023 01.jpg. COM:DW - photos of photos. {{FoP-Israel}} allows for freedom of panorama when an image is "permanently situated in a public place", but these aren't permanent installations. Permission from the owners of the original photographs or the illustrators are required.

The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:05, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Squirrel Conspiracy You put a lot of effort into looking for pictures of those kidnapped by Hamas. So why didn't you mention this? Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kfir Bibas 9 months old Was brutally kidnapped to Gaza together with his brother Ariel Bibas 4 years old . not yet released.jpg where the image was not deleted because there is a VRT permission received? I haven't checked all the pictures uploaded for deletion, but all those designed by Dede, Nitzan Mintz and Tal Huber should be removed from this Deletion request. They are easy to identify by their design.
User:Geagea please add ticket:2023122710003649 to all those pictures. Thank you. Hanay (talk) 03:04, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That VRT ticket is only for the design of the posters (red bar, layout, and text). It does not give permission - nor can the designers of the posters give permission - for the photographs embedded in those posters. Please see COM:DW. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 03:07, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment I have nominated the file mentioned above for deletion per the insufficient VRT ticket. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 03:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
really? And what about File:Ariel Bibas 4 years old Was brutally kidnapped to Gaza together with his brother Kfir Bibas 9 months old. not yet released.jpg in Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Kidnappings during the 2023 Israel–Hamas war What is the difference between this photo and the photo of his brother Kfir who was kidnapped by Hamas at the age of 9 months and has not yet been returned? Hanay (talk) 03:43, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None? They are both nominated for deletion. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:20, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In Israel, the law allows to use pictures of works that are presented in the public area. Nizzan Cohen (talk) 07:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{FoP-Israel}} describes the law as "The reproduction of this architectural work, work of sculpture or work of applied art, is covered under the Israeli copyright statute (2007), which states that "Broadcasting, or copying by way of photography, drawing, sketch or similar visual description, of an architectural work, a work of sculpture or work of applied art, are permitted where the aforesaid work is permanently situated in a public place.". The pertinent part here is "permanently". Israeli freedom of panorama allows you to photograph buildings, statues, even permanently installed signs (like this one in Timna). It does not, however, protect temporary displays. Commons:Freedom of panorama#Permanent vs temporary has the relevant definitions for what is and isn't considered permanent for freedom of panorama. The gist though is this: These posters are there to raise awareness of the hostages. If a peace treaty were signed tomorrow and all of the hostages were released, the posters would be taken down. That means they're not permanent. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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