Commons:Deletion requests/File:Madre e hija de Plaza de Mayo.jpg
Photograph by Adriana Lestido published in a La Voz newspaper in Argentina in 1982. The image is currently in the public domain (25 years after publication), but is was not in 1996 at URAA time. Therefore, it is still protected by copyright in the US. Following COM:PCP we cannot keep this image. Günther Frager (talk) 00:13, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Kept: added {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} to the page. Ruthven (msg) 10:02, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
I believe the previous DR was closed with a wrong resolution argument. The documentation of {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} clearly states that it should not be applied to images uploaded after March 1, 2012. This image was uploaded 5 years afterwards in 2017. The documentation also says that images upploaded afterwards should be treated as violations of the licensing policy. The policy says that URAA restored works should be deleted following the precautionary principle (the argument of the original DR). The policy also states that mere allegations cannot be used, but I believe this is not the case as I provided the author, the publisher and the year of publication. I will expand on it in case it is not considered enough.
This image was taken by Argentine photographer Adriana Lestido in Avellaneda (Buenos Aires) on November 25, 1982. And it was published the next day on November 26, 1982, in the Argentine newspaper La Voz. The date provided in the summary is wrong. A scan of it can be found here . La Voz was a newspaper published between 1982 and 1985 [1] and it should not be confused with La Voz del Interior., a bigger and still in print Argentine newspaper The photo later appeared on the cover of the book Con vida los llevaron [2] published in 1984 that documents some of the atrocities committed by the military government and gained wide recognition in Argentina and the World. The image is often displayed in Lestido's exhibitions[3][4][5]. More details on the history of this image can be found here and here. The image in some articles even use the copyright symbol when crediting Lestido, for example here and here.
Comment I reopened the DR as @Ruthven: talk page recommends it when there is a non-trivial disagreement on their resolution. Günther Frager (talk) 20:24, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Keep See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Michael Arnon portrait, 1971.jpg, for coherence. Günther Frager, you cannot keep reopening DR until somene agrees with you versus Common's consent. It is ridiculous and counterproductive. --Ruthven (msg) 10:51, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- The closing of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Michael Arnon portrait, 1971.jpg used as argument Commons:Massive restoration of deleted images by the URAA, a proposal from 2014 that was shortly superseded by Commons:Review of Precautionary principle, another proposal to ignore COM:PCP for URAA cases. The resolution was negative: the precautionary principle still applies for URAA related cases as it is reflected in the current policy Commons:Licensing#Uruguay_Round_Agreements_Act. A resolution that was overruled nearly 9 years ago is not a consensus and there a plenty of URAAA related DRs opened by admins, some recent ones are Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Bildmässige Photographie (1938) and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Captain John Francis Finlayson.jpg. I only reopened the DR, expanding the information available, because you have the following message in your talk page: " If you post here to ask me to reconsider a deletion request (DR), I probably will not do it, unless I've made a trivial mistake (so, please do not waste your and my time). [...] If I've kept a file that you whished to see deleted, please consider filling up a new deletion request to gather more advices.". My initial intention was to write you a message. Günther Frager (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination; the documentation for {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} clearly states that it cannot be used for images uploaded after 1 March 2012 (the English version of the template says that now too, because I added it). —holly {chat} 18:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
