Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pelantikan Jokowi rahmat3-770x465.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
This file was initially tagged by Ellin Beltz as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: File is all over the internet Yann (talk) 09:16, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- I am not sure if this permission (Template:PD-IDGov) is sufficient for this document. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:17, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Keep as per my reasons in Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jokowi swearing-in, 2014.jpg. Should we merge the discussion there? They have the same source, and I uploaded them with the same license template, and the arguments would be mostly the same, really. HaEr48 (talk) 17:14, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Delete I would not merge the two discussions because this case is even more obvious than the other. This image, cropped a little, appears on http://setkab.go.id/galeri_cat/galeri-foto/ with the following at the bottom:
- "Copyright (c) Sekretariat Kabinet RI. All Rights Reserved"
- The fact that we have a template that says that certain works published by the Indonesian Government are PD does not override the fact that the source site for this image has an explicit copyright notice. In fact, given that the source has a copyright notice, this is a {{Speedy}} and does not require a DR. Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:10, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- The template quoted a law that says anything published by the government is public domain. If such law exists, shouldn't it be irrelevant what the webmaster put in the footer? HaEr48 (talk) 01:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Nevermind, after reading carefully it does contain an exception which apply to this case. Now I believe this image (and the other one is copyrighted) HaEr48 (talk) 02:04, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- The template quoted a law that says anything published by the government is public domain. If such law exists, shouldn't it be irrelevant what the webmaster put in the footer? HaEr48 (talk) 01:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Comment I think the wording of this template is misleading. I raised the issue here: Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Template:PD-IDGov. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- Which part of it do you think is misleadng? HaEr48 (talk) 01:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete for the reasons given by Jameslwoodward and HaEr48. Article 14(b) of the Indonesian copyright law states: "There shall be no infringement of Copyright for ... publication and/or reproduction of anything which is published by or on behalf of the Government, except if the Copyright is declared to be protected by law or regulation or by a statement on the work itself or at the time the work is published." I would think that a statement on the source website like "Copyright (c) Sekretariat Kabinet RI. All Rights Reserved." would be a sufficient statement complying with the italicized phrases. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 13:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: Natuur12 (talk) 13:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
