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== GA review ==
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== Technical areas ==
Do we know why one (the one to the left, from the main television gantry viewpoint) [[technical area]] overlaps into the other half of the pitch? Seems a tad unfair to me. - [[User:Dudesleeper|Dudesleeper]] / [[User talk:Dudesleeper|<
:Not a clue, but that's the away team's technical area, so if it favours anyone, it favours the away team. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 21:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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==Jamie Lyon Photograph==
Someone removed an image detailing another use besides association football, have fixed the issue.<
:The picture was pointless. The stadium's use as a rugby league venue is shown perfectly well in the other photo in the section; the photo of Jamie Lyon could have easily been taken at any stadium and therefore added nothing of use to the article. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 18:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
::I disagree in the strongest possible terms. I fail to see any justification for removing the picture. I am open to hearing any worthy rationale by which the image should be removed.<
:::It's a picture of a man about to kick a ball. It's not a picture of the stadium or its surrounding area. If you insist on adding it again, at least come up with a decent reason why it needs to be there. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 20:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I've got to agree with PeeJay on this one. The picture above where it was is fine, as it shows much of the stadium ... which is what the article is about. The other picture is pretty poor quality as it is, and doesn't show a whole lot of anything. – [[User:Latics|Latics]] <small>([[User talk:Latics|talk]])</small> 04:52, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Shows a full stand, and in-game action from the sport that could very reasonably call Old Trafford it's national stadium.<
:::::Unless you know intimately what Old Trafford looks like on the inside, that stand could be from any stadium in the country. I know it's from Old Trafford, but the image definitely doesn't add anything to the reader's understanding of Old Trafford. What we really need in that section is a picture of Old Trafford being used for a concert or a boxing match. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 13:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::I would agree with you on the issue of furthering the other uses cause; you could go away and search for a free use image that would be fine to use and fit the bill in terms of the other sporting events that have taken place at OT.<
:::::::You still haven't given a good reason why the Jamie Lyon image should be included. Keep adding it and I'll report you for disruptive behaviour. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 21:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I've written in English; the only language I know. Keep removing it and I'll report you for disruptive behaviour.<
:::::::::Being literate is not a good reason to keep an image. Consider yourself reported. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 11:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
::Although it's a good image I don't see the significance. Personally, if we have to have a rugby shot on there (and I think we should) then I'd prefer to see goalposts, pitch markings, scrums, aerial shots - something that shows the stadium in rugby mode. This image doesn't show the full stand, only a section of it. It could also be seen as a 'soccer' free kick to any casual reader of the site. There must be stronger Old Trafford images of rugby. I also disagree about the national stadium line - Rugby League has used lots of stadia over the years with Wembley, Odsal, Maine Road and others all staging very significant RL games.
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== Image in the Structure and facilities section ==
The shading in the diagram at the top of the Structure and facilities section appears on the full size SVG when it is clicked on, but not the smaller size that appears in the article proper. This should be remedied as soon as possible, as the description of the image makes mention of the shaded area. <span style="text-shadow:limegreen 0.08em 0.08em 0.08em
== Record attendance for a non-competitive game ==
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Thx; I guess I feared that would be the case; ah well. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09|talk]]) 22:36, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
::{{ping|Trafford09}}{{ping|PeeJay2K3}} Regarding sourcing this, the source I gave is the one used on [[List of European stadiums by capacity]], and regards to other stadium's pages they don't source the stadium catagory. It's quite obvious that Old Trafford is a four star stadium, and I'm sure that this information could be indirectly sourced by providing sources for the criteria as given on [[UEFA stadium categories]]. [[User:Mn1548|Mn1548]] ([[User talk:Mn1548|talk]]) 09:12, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Not sure why I didn't respond to this before, but here goes: you can provide all the sources you like that Old Trafford meets the criteria as an elite category stadium (or whatever terminology UEFA are using now), but unless you can prove that it has indeed been accredited as such, it doesn't matter. We have no idea whether it is the case that a stadium simply has to meet the criteria to be considered elite or if UEFA has to officially certify it as such, so until we can find an actual list of these stadiums published by UEFA (not some website doing exactly the same guesswork as you), any attempt to classify them as elite on our part is moot. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 22:10, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
::::Yeah I was genuinely surprised when quickly looking into this that UEFA seem to explicitly not publish a list of stadiums that they grant each category to - they used to, but haven't done so since they moved to the current system. None of the websites that list stadiums seem to have any better source other than "looking at the regulations and assuming". ~ [[User:Mazca|<span style="color:#228b22">'''m'''a'''z'''c'''a'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mazca|talk]]</sup> 22:25, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
== Star rating ==
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Ignore this, just seen that there was already a discussion about it. [[User:DeclanLukeOGara|DeclanLukeOGara]] ([[User talk:DeclanLukeOGara|talk]]) 14:50, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
== Proposed changes to Future section ==
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Information to be added or removed: Remove: The stadium's provision for disabled fans is below standards required by regulations. Add: An £11 million investment into upgrading the accessibility facilities in the stadium is underway. This development will create 118 new wheelchair positions and 158 new amenity seats in a variety of areas around the stadium, including a new purpose-built concourse at the back of the Stretford End.
Explanation of issue: The information is out of date.
References supporting change:
https://www.manutd.com/en/visit-old-trafford/accessibility-plans
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-spend-11m-double-17573771
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/delegation-in-old-trafford-to-review-new-accessibility-facilities
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11264323/old-trafford-new-disabled-facilities/
Please note that I am a paid employee of Manchester United FC.
[[User:Tamla23|Tamla23]] ([[User talk:Tamla23|talk]]) 15:21, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}} - [[User:Rich_Smith|<kbd style="color: Red;">Rich</kbd>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich_Smith|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rich_Smith|C]]|[[Special:EmailUser/Rich_Smith|E-Mail]]</sup> 19:40, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2020 ==
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"would further increase {{strikethrough|the}} its capacity to 88,000"
{{clear}} [[Special:Contributions/109.175.155.98|109.175.155.98]] ([[User talk:109.175.155.98|talk]]) 21:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}} – [[User:PeeJay|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay|Jay]] 23:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
== Manchester United Football Ground railway station ==
I believe there hasn't been service to this station for a few years now, but the article says it's still in use on matchdays. Does that need correcting / removing? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.99.129.6|2.99.129.6]] ([[User talk:2.99.129.6#top|talk]]) 16:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2023 ==
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In the Transport section of this page, it highlights that the 53 bus service is operated by First Greater Manchester, in which it is now no longer the case. It is now served by [[Go North West]]. [[User:ItsKestrel|ItsKestrel]] ([[User talk:ItsKestrel|talk]]) 00:03, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Colonestarrice|Colonestarrice]] ([[User talk:Colonestarrice|talk]]) 13:32, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
== Tenants field in infobox ==
It should be removed, the owner can't be the tenant! I looked at removing it and leaving that list below, but couldn't see how to remove it without removing the other list. [[User:Govvy|Govvy]] ([[User talk:Govvy|talk]]) 10:06, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
:The “tenants” field is just poorly named. It’s supposed to give a list of the teams that play at the stadium, regardless of whether they own the venue. I’d work on changing the word used, not removing the list. – [[User:PeeJay|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay|Jay]] 13:05, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
== West Stand ==
West Stand wasn't the last to be covered, that was East Stand.
West Stand wasn't all terraced, it had a small seating area in top right hand when facing it [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:60BF:8C00:785E:23B1:5764:83DF|2A02:C7C:60BF:8C00:785E:23B1:5764:83DF]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:60BF:8C00:785E:23B1:5764:83DF|talk]]) 10:52, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2023 ==
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Old Trafford is the FOURTEENTH largest stadium by capacity in Europe - (and not the eleventh as stated in the top paragraph of the page) [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C4:5387:3001:5CE9:5FC6:72D4:9DB4|2A00:23C4:5387:3001:5CE9:5FC6:72D4:9DB4]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C4:5387:3001:5CE9:5FC6:72D4:9DB4|talk]]) 13:31, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 14:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
== Request to remove image of miniature Lego model of stadium ==
The article features the inclusion of a miniature Lego model of the stadium that needn't be included in the article. It adds nothing, and simply appears to be an image of a hobbyists model of the stadium. The image is also described as a "scale" model, which I would dispute as it is not an accurate, proportional replica of the stadium, it's simply a mini-Lego model. Further, the image description mentions a model-maker who doesn't appear to of particular prominence, and is, at the least, without a Wikipedia page of their own. [[Special:Contributions/92.233.97.202|92.233.97.202]] ([[User talk:92.233.97.202|talk]]) 22:26, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
:Thank you for pointing out the issue with this image. Someone overwrote the original photo (which was admittedly blurry) with one of an entirely different model. I've restored the original image. The model is definitely not made of Lego, and it was put on display at the Manchester United museum, so there's no reason to remove the image from this article. The notability of the artist is irrelevant to the encyclopaedic value of the image. – [[User:PeeJay|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay|Jay]] 09:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
::I see.
::Does a featured Wikipedia article really deserve a blurry picture?
::I can’t see what the picture adds to the article? [[Special:Contributions/92.233.97.202|92.233.97.202]] ([[User talk:92.233.97.202|talk]]) 12:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
:::To be fair, Wikipedia relies on volunteers for all of its content. If this is the best picture of the model we can get, it will have to do, especially since I don't think the model is on display any more. That said, at the size the image is displayed at, the blurriness is barely noticeable. I will also add that I do think it's worth including, since the model itself is mentioned in the article. If you read, you'll see it was put on display for the 100th anniversary of Old Trafford's opening, and it's probably the best example of that special exhibition to put in this article. – [[User:PeeJay|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay|Jay]] 00:12, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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