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== Please move this page back ==
 
All location articles in Ontario should follow location, Ontario (where ambiguous) per discussions in the past at Wikiproject Canada. Scarborough was only a municipality within the region of Toronto, and it no longer exists whatsoever. We don't have [[Markham, York Region]] or [[Stoney Creek, Hamilton]]. - '''[[User:Floydian|<span style="color:#5A5AC5;">ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ</span>]]'''&nbsp;[[User_talk:Floydian|<sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Floydian|<sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢</sub>]] 00:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
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::I agree with Floydian on the end result, but not on the statement that ''all'' municipalities should follow location, Ontario. I would note that although ''this'' article should be at Scarborough, Ontario, that isn`t the case for all neighbourhoods or communities. Most neighbourhoods and communities should, in fact, be at location, municipality, with some exceptions for former municipalities such as Scarborough and Stoney Creek (Markham is not a good comparable, because it is still a separate municipality). Please see [[WP:CANSTYLE#Neighbourhoods/communities]] for the naming convention. [[User:Skeezix1000|Skeezix1000]] ([[User talk:Skeezix1000|talk]]) 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I won t try to rename the page again but disagree with the present naming. These are communities within Toronto now, nothing more officially, despite what they once were. For urban areas, the disambiguate should be the administrative entity immediate above, I think. (I don t think it should be for rural areas, however - contradictory as this viewpoint is.) [[User:Mayumashu|Mayumashu]] ([[User talk:Mayumashu|talk]]) 18:46, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Scarborough Junction is a community within Toronto, but Scarborough has ceased to exist as anything but a name recognized by Canada Post. Communities are a different example than incorporated municipalities. - '''[[User:Floydian|<span style="color:#5A5AC5;">ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ</span>]]'''&nbsp;[[User_talk:Floydian|<sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Floydian|<sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢</sub>]] 23:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Which is my point - there is no [[Scarborough, Ontario]], so having a page by that name is rather wrong. I disagree that Scarborough ceases to exist as a commnunity however, for people who live there, for one, will still refer to living in quote on quote Scarborough. This is why I think the page should be named 'Scarborough, Toronto' [[User:Mayumashu|Mayumashu]] ([[User talk:Mayumashu|talk]]) 09:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::"Scarborough, Ontario" follows the "most commonly used/recognisable name in English" convention usually used to name pages. That it's a former place and not a current place is irrelevant, encyclopaedic formatting ''should'' mean formatting in a current-date independent way. [[User:WilyD|Wily]][[User talk:WilyD|<span style="color:#FF8800;">D</span>]] 16:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::: Looks like someone moved this recently without discussion, and now all the Scarborough Categories have followed suit. I'd like to move it back, if there is a consensus to do so. -- [[User:Earl Andrew|Earl Andrew]] - [[User talk:Earl Andrew|talk]] 00:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::::: I agree, it shouldn't be Scarborough, Toronto as per what [[User:Floydian|<span style="color:#5A5AC5;">ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ</span>]] said. [[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|Vaselineeeeeeee]] ([[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|talk]]) 00:19, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
: '''Oppose''' It's part of Toronto now. Using Scarborough, Ontario would imply an article about someplace in Ontario. Or it would imply an article about the place that existed separately before being merged into Toronto. A history article in other words and not about the current district, which people still refer to. And thirdly, all of the other articles about places/neighbourhoods/former towns within Toronto use the ,Toronto prefix. We should not deviate. [[User:Alaney2k|Alaney2k]] ([[User talk:Alaney2k|talk]]) 20:52, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
:: '''Comment''': A community is not necessarily defined by the municipality it's in. A lot of the amalgamations of the early 2000s created unnatural municipalities, like here in Ottawa. Scarborough is not just a neighbourhood, it's a community. People still use it in their mailing addresses. In other cases of amalgamations, we've still kept the province in the article title where appropriate. Why should Toronto be any different? -- [[User:Earl Andrew|Earl Andrew]] - [[User talk:Earl Andrew|talk]] 21:11, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
::: What would be the sense in moving the Toronto articles which are appended by ", Toronto"? There are a fair number of those. Parkdale, Ontario, Swansea, Ontario, etc. It just makes it vague. So what if people put Scarborough, Ontario on their paper letters, etc. That should not over-ride reality. In policy, having a ", Ontario" available rule exists to support villages like the disparate ones in Ottawa. Distinct towns and villages within a combined spread-out rural municipality. It doesn't make Scarborough any different from what exists in reality. It is its own district within Toronto. That much is alive and active. There is no space between Scarborough and the rest of Toronto. Not like Navan or Greely or Richmond at all. [[User:Alaney2k|Alaney2k]] ([[User talk:Alaney2k|talk]]) 22:12, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 
== List of educational institutions in Scarborough, Ontario ==
 
There is an ongoing AFD at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of educational institutions in Scarborough, Ontario]] which may be of interest. It appears that [[List of educational institutions in Scarborough, Ontario]] was split out from this Scarborough article in 2008. It is now proposed that it be deleted. --[[User:doncram|<span style="color:maroon;">do</span>]][[User talk:Doncram|<span style="color:green;">ncr</span>]][[Special:Contributions/doncram|<span style="color:maroon;">am</span>]] 17:24, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 
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==GA Reassessment==
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== Scarborough, Ontario → Scarborough, Toronto ==
{{atopr|This is not a proper move discussion. If editors think it should be moved then [[Wikipedia:Requested moves]] is the correct venue. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] (solidly non-human), [[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Uqaqtuq (talk)]], [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|Huliva]] 18:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC)}}
As the article itself states, Scarborough is a DISTRICT of Toronto. Hence, the name Scarborough, Ontario is misleading and counter-productive as it indicates that Scarborough is its own municipality, which it is not. Postal codes [[List of postal codes of Canada: M|under the letter M]] all count as Toronto, which includes all postal codes in Scarborough. Similarly, the Mayor of Toronto [[Mayor of Toronto#History|rules over Scarborough]] as well. The City of Toronto, Toronto Public Libraries, and Toronto Transit commission all operate in Scarborough, which means Toronto funding goes towards Scarborough. Not to mention, it is [[List of neighbourhoods in Toronto#Scarborough|Toronto's largest district]] by land. Overall, Scarborough is not it's own city, and does not need to be considered so under this Wikipedia title, especially considering its role towards the Toronto economy, culture, and people. [[User:Canadiancorrections|Canadiancorrections]] ([[User talk:Canadiancorrections|talk]]) 16:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
:'''Support''': I agree with the points raised and believe the name of the article should be reverted to "Scarborough, Toronto." The current title, "Scarborough, Ontario", is misleading as was discussed because it implies that Scarborough is an independent municipality within Ontario. However, this is not the case and hasn't been so since the [[Amalgamation of Toronto|amalgamation of Scarborough into Toronto in 1998]]. Furthermore, Scarborough residents are represented by Toronto City Councillors and Members of Provincial Parliament (MPPs) who serve the Scarborough area within the larger Toronto electoral district. We can even consider the category of [[:Category:Federal electoral districts of Toronto|federal electoral districts of Toronto]] for this conversation. Take the areas of:
:- [[Scarborough Centre (federal electoral district)|Scarborough Centre]]
:- [[Scarborough North (federal electoral district)|Scarborough North]]
:- [[Scarborough Southwest (federal electoral district)|Scarborough Southwest]]
:- [[Scarborough—Agincourt (federal electoral district)|Scarborough—Agincourt]]
:- [[Scarborough—Guildwood (federal electoral district)|Scarborough—Guildwood]]
:- [[Scarborough—Rouge Park (federal electoral district)|Scarborough—Rouge Park]]
:- [[Scarborough—Rouge River (federal electoral district)|Scarborough—Rouge River]]
:Each district listed lie under '''Toronto''' for the census division and subdivision. We can see a similar pattern when it comes to the [[:Category:Ontario federal electoral districts|electoral districts of Ontario]].
:Even beyond electoral districts, just looking at the breakdown of what the [[Greater Toronto Area]] is, Scarborough is not listed anywhere in the '''Municipalities in Greater Toronto Area and related CMAs''' table. Since Scarborough has been "Scarborough, Toronto" since the amalgamation, we don't see it designated as its own municipality in that table. It does not have its own "standing" when thinking about the GTA because it is part of Toronto. [[User:Ashenafee|Ashenafee]] ([[User talk:Ashenafee|talk]]) 17:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
:'''Oppose'''. The ", Ontario" suffix is not just for municipalities, it can be for any valid mailing address. For example, there are lots of communities that aren't in any municipality, as they're in unorganized areas. Also, due to amalgamations, you have lots of large municipalities in the province that have several distinct communities within them. I think it would be ridiculous to have the article on [[Lindsay, Ontario]] be moved to [[Lindsay, Kawartha Lakes]] just because it's not a municipality anymore. And I think the same applies to Scarborough. -- [[User:Earl Andrew|Earl Andrew]] - [[User talk:Earl Andrew|talk]] 17:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
::'''SUPPORT''' Thank you for bringing up mailing addresses! Those in Scarborough often receive mail that says "Toronto, ON." Both Scarborough and Toronto are valid to write for postal codes ending in M. As for Lindsay, small towns operate a bit differently than large metropolitan cities (in terms of public transport, community centres, etc.) , hence why the amalgamation of Toronto plays a crucial role in this title. [[User:Canadiancorrections|Canadiancorrections]] ([[User talk:Canadiancorrections|talk]]) 01:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose'''. First and foremost, "Scarborough, Toronto" fails [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. See also [[WP:CANPLACE]], and the 2022 RM above. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 01:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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