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== MathExternal lecturerlinks modified ==
I have math-oriented sources for 1901 and 1903. Reshevsky wrote, "He was a respected professor of mathematics at [[Heidelberg University]] in Germany for many years. Lasker was determined not to devote all of his time to chess."<ref>''Great Chess Upsets'', by [[Samuel Reshevsky]], Arco Publishing, [[New York]] 1976, p. 36.</ref>
Can we find corroboration and dates? - this is the kind of subject on which GMs often retail urban myths. [[User:Philcha|Philcha]] ([[User talk:Philcha|talk]]) 13:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:There is no doubt that he did mathematical research of encyclopaedic interest. ([[Primary decomposition]], both of ideals and of modules, is a well-known part of the 20'th century approach to commutative algebra; it is what mathematicians loosely often calls "central to the field". I'm not able to judge the importance of his contribution to game theory, since, I have not accessed it.) I have not been able to find further information about his academic career, however. He is not listed on [[:de:Liste berühmter Persönlichkeiten der Ruprecht-Karls-Universität Heidelberg]]; which of course does not prove that he wasn't a "professor" (in the American sense) there. If he had been a "Professor" in the German sense, then there should be some mention of his [[Habilitation]], somewhere, I think. A disadvantage is that the authors of the various encyclopaediae articles were much more interested in his chess career, and thus may have omitted or been ignorant of much else. However, at least "[[der grosse Brockhaus]]" (1955) ought to have mentioned a formal professorship for Lasker, if he got one.
:Therefore, my ''guess'' would be that he only taught in subordinate academic positions, in the German fairly hierarchical academical world. I really don't ''know''; and none of my sources indicates what he was doing after he "retired" in 1925 - ''nota bene'' from his chess career - and until he "became active" again in the '30's.-[[User:JoergenB|JoergenB]] ([[User talk:JoergenB|talk]]) 18:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, [[User:JoergenB|JoergenB]]! I think what I've written from other sources covers Lasker's mathematical significance well enough, and I notice you haven't suggested any changes. And thanks also for putting my mind at ease about ''not'' using the Reshevsky quote at the top of this thread. [[User:Philcha|Philcha]] ([[User talk:Philcha|talk]]) 12:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't suggest any textual changes (unless and until we find more information, of course). I did add some category and project information, since I think Lasker also is of some interest as a mathematician; thanks for bringing this fact to my attention, by the way. [[User:JoergenB|JoergenB]] ([[User talk:JoergenB|talk]]) 16:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Lasker was not really a serious mathematician. Though he had some talent, his chess took precedence over his studies. In Professor Otto Haupt's (a young professor at Erlangen at the time that Lasker got his Doctorate there) words, he got his doctorate "between trains." Lasker did prove something interesting for a special case of Rings (the existence of primary decomposition for polynomial rings), and Emmy Noether proved the general case some 20 years later. Thus he shares billing with her on the Lasker-Noether theorem. That being said, Lasker was just not prolific enough to be counted as an important mathematician, let alone a titan like David Hilbert or Emmy Noether. (If Carl Friedrich Gauss is Babe Ruth, Hilbert and Noether are Lou Gehrig and Ty Cobb. Lasker was a guy who played a few weeks in the majors.) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.84.126.74|208.84.126.74]] ([[User talk:208.84.126.74|talk]]) 07:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Horowitz1973MorphyToFischer ==
Tag missing. [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] ([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]]) 14:49, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
:Thsnks - fixed it. --[[User:Philcha|Philcha]] ([[User talk:Philcha|talk]]) 16:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
== Criteria for Editing ==
Just curious as to the definition of the following reversion of an edit made: 'needs consistency with rest of article'.
In what way was the edit inconsistent? Maybe the reverter can explain.[[User:Hushpuckena|Hushpuckena]] ([[User talk:Hushpuckena|talk]]) 02:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
: I didn't change it, but I see two things (1) we usually capitalize World Champion, and (2) not everyone understands (+8 -3 =2). [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] [[User talk:Bubba73|(talk)]], 02:28, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
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::Fair enough; it's just that as it previously stood, at the beginning, the reference to the short drawn match was thus: (+2 -2).
::If that's the problem, then I'm mystified, as I've seen the same terminology elsewhere in this article, and if consistency is the goal. I'm all for keeping it the one way, whichever way that happens to be.
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::As to the capitalisation of the WC title and matches, what are the exceptions? Seems redundant to me to always capitalise WC, same as Grandmaster, or in another frame of reference, 'Major League Baseball'. [[User:Hushpuckena|Hushpuckena]] ([[User talk:Hushpuckena|talk]]) 06:49, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
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:::I am the one who reverted, and I agree I could have given more explanations in the edit summary. My action was based on the fact that we usually write World Chess Championship with upper case, and scores in the article are mostly written in letters, e.g. "Lasker eventually won by 10½−5½ (eight wins, five draws, and three losses)".
:::That being said, as you mention, the notation (+8, =5, -3) is also used here and there in the article, which is inconsistent. I will now go through the article and change them. [[User:SyG|SyG]] ([[User talk:SyG|talk]]) 11:56, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
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:I think the text parts of [[User:Hushpuckena|Hushpuckena]]'s edit were simply less concise than in the version that was restored - conciseness is desirable when the article is already long because of Lasker's non-chess activities and some historically important controversies in his reign.
:Re won/lost/drawn scoring, I suggest articles should follow one of 2 possible approaches:
:*Words in all cases. Except that I'd use and explain +X -Y =Z in results tables.
:*+X -Y =Z in al cases, but with explanation in parentheses after first instance per section (or every 2-3 sections, if there's a run of short session). --[[User:Philcha|Philcha]] ([[User talk:Philcha|talk]]) 12:02, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
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:: My preference for that is the first one: words in text, but +x -y =z in tables (with explanation). [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] [[User talk:Bubba73|(talk)]], 15:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
== NotableExternal gameslinks modified ==
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With all these masters, you have to stop where. To be "notable" a game needs to be assessed as notable ''by an independent experts'', i.e. a another very widely respected as a top player and commentator. Reasons for notable can vary a lot - the 7 for Em. Lasker include both great play and historical importance ({{cite web
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== Soviet citizen ==
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It is clearly cited that Lasker renounced his German citizenship, and received Soviet citizenship. The same case is in the article about [[Bobby Fischer]], with the difference that Fischer renounced his American, and received Icelandic citizenship. The fact that Fischer is categorized in the category "Icelandic people" should be used without suspection in categorizing Lasker in the category "Soviet people". Regards.--[[User:Kiril Simeonovski|Kiril Simeonovski]] ([[User talk:Kiril Simeonovski|talk]]) 19:13, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
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:If you think "Soviet people" is wrong, remove it. --[[User:Philcha|Philcha]] ([[User talk:Philcha|talk]]) 04:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
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::I don't like the rules about the nationality on this language edition of Wikipedia, but it's obvious that we must respect them of any sort. As categories like "American people", and "Canadian people" exist on this Wikipedia, without reference to the fact that American people, and Canadian people do not exist, and when the main consideration of people is by their citizenships, then the category "Soviet people" is not far from these rules. Many times I've proposed to change these rules, but this did not give positive impact to the holders of the pages of this kind, so I decided to use it for all articles, just to annihilate the articles, where the rules are omitted.--[[User:Kiril Simeonovski|Kiril Simeonovski]] ([[User talk:Kiril Simeonovski|talk]]) 15:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
== ABirth goodplace article,in BUT...Infobox ==
{{ping|Oliszydlowski|GiantSnowman}} I was following [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=935234215&oldid=935229706&title=Emanuel_Lasker&type=revision this earlier edit]. But it is true, I do not know of an explicit rule that would require this; it only seems natural, given the abbreviated nature of everything in the infobox. [[User:Bruce leverett|Bruce leverett]] ([[User talk:Bruce leverett|talk]]) 05:00, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Hey there,
*Well, there's definitely an accessibility guideline that discourages use of {{tag|small}} in an infobox: see [[MOS:SMALL]]. Like many wikipedia guidelines this wasn't delivered from the heavens chiseled in stone, so there's no reason to expect anyone would know that wikipedia has made that style decision if they hadn't run across it before. I used to use smaller text occasionally in infoboxes before I realized that this was a no-no. Given pause to reconsider, I saw that I agreed with the rule and stopped. [[User:Quale|Quale]] ([[User talk:Quale|talk]]) 06:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
This is a pretty good article and I enjoyed reading it, but I was irritated by all the weasel words. Too many times it says this like "Lasker was often..." "It has often been said that..." "Many people say...", etc. Also, in the introductory paragraphs, there are a lot of poorly-written passive sentences beginning with the word "Although..."
::Why not just link to the German name of the place as it was then? If anyone is really interested they can click on the link and get redirected to Barlinek. [[User:MaxBrowne2|MaxBrowne2]] ([[User talk:MaxBrowne2|talk]]) 07:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Just my 2c. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.5.249.92|124.5.249.92]] ([[User talk:124.5.249.92|talk]]) 04:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::We wouldn't say that Jesus was born in Israel/Palestine, or that Caesar was born in Italy etc. - we use the historically relevant name. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 10:37, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
== Infobox Photo ==
: We appreciate your comments. Don't hesitate to improve the article yourself, see [[Wikipedia:Be bold]]. [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] [[User talk:Bubba73|<sup>(You talkin' to me?)</sup>]], 04:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
::IThe haveinfobox triedphoto tois removean someelderly "often"Lasker. here He was most famous when he was younger and therethe reigning world champion. Please tellWould usit ifbe youbetter feelto thatuse isa better.photo of a younger Lasker? [[UserSpecial:SyGContributions/74.71.17.99|SyG74.71.17.99]] ([[User talk:SyG74.71.17.99|talk]]) 1221:1321, 1019 AugustJune 20102023 (UTC)
:He had an extraordinarily long career in chess, and at the time of the photo (1929), he still had some major tournaments to go. I do not object to the infobox photo we are currently using, but if you have a particular one in mind, let's discuss it. [[User:Bruce leverett|Bruce leverett]] ([[User talk:Bruce leverett|talk]]) 00:43, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
== References ==
== Dates ==
The introduction makes some very strong claims (especially in paragraph 2) but provides no references to support the claims. For example who said that Lasker was very advanced for his age.[[User:The Gaon|The Gaon]] ([[User talk:The Gaon|talk]]) 08:15, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
As of 2009, when the article achieved GA, it was using mdy dates, although there was no "use mdy dates" directive, musta been ancient history.
== Lasker's style ==
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