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==Evidence==
Reference N° 62. There is no mention of David Hilbert on that source. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/190.1.47.224|190.1.47.224]] ([[User talk:190.1.47.224#top|talk]]) 19:07, 25 September 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
"Recent analysis, however, indicates that he was ahead of his time and used a more flexible approach than his contemporaries, which mystified many of them." What recent analysis? By whom? When? This should have a source. [[User:Tpkatsa|Tpkatsa]] ([[User talk:Tpkatsa|talk]]) 19:53, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
:I think it's difficult to briefly summarize the fairly extensive discussion in the [[Emanuel Lasker#Assessment]] section, but this part of the lead could probably be improved. I'm not sure that that sentence is the best bit from the assessment section to put in the lead. [[User:Quale|Quale]] ([[User talk:Quale|talk]]) 22:51, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 
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== Historians debate or not? ==
 
This is for Quale to explain their repeated reversion, after I explained and asked not to. Quale, you just reverted without explanation, and instead asked me not to! Amazing. I see on your talk page people have objected to you doing this before - repeatedly reverting without explanation. I have explained (briefly) why I thought those links were better deleted - you have referred to such things as what appeared in a Ray Keene book as 'historians debating'. Which strikes me as ludicrous. If there is the actual debate of historians that you claim, then including reference to a Keene book is superfluous. If not, it's doing nothing but misleading. I ask you again not to just revert without explanation as you have already done once. I see you have contributed to a lot of chess pages, so maybe you feel like you can do whatever you like on here without being civil, or justifying your actions at all. I feel you have acted entirely inappropriately. I deleted what I did because I felt it improved the page, and I've explained why. Now it's your turn. [[Special:Contributions/110.20.168.169|110.20.168.169]] ([[User talk:110.20.168.169|talk]]) 05:11, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
:You removed four cites from the page, not just one cite by Keene. Justify removal of all four, please. Your edit comment "Sorry, but to portray such things as an error in a Keene book as historians disagreeing about something, is just silly" does not justify removing four cites. In fact there has been disagreement by chess writers whether the 1909 Janowski match was for the WC, although I think it's generally agreed today that it was not. Probably the text describing that issue can be improved substantially both here and at [[World Chess Championship 1910 (Lasker–Janowski)]], but in my opinion removing it completely is not an improvement. [[User:Quale|Quale]] ([[User talk:Quale|talk]]) 03:29, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
::''Emanuel Lasker: The Life of a Chess Master'' by Dr. J. Hannak, first published in 1959, also says that the 1909 match was for the title, but Winter's research looks convincing to me. I like the statement at [[World Chess Championship 1910 (Lasker–Janowski)]]: "The longer 1909 match has sometimes been called a world championship match, but research by Edward Winter indicates that the title was not at stake." [[User:Strawberry4Ever|Strawberry4Ever]] ([[User talk:Strawberry4Ever|talk]]) 18:18, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 
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{{ping|Oliszydlowski|GiantSnowman}} I was following [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=935234215&oldid=935229706&title=Emanuel_Lasker&type=revision this earlier edit]. But it is true, I do not know of an explicit rule that would require this; it only seems natural, given the abbreviated nature of everything in the infobox. [[User:Bruce leverett|Bruce leverett]] ([[User talk:Bruce leverett|talk]]) 05:00, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
*Well, there's definitely an accessibility guideline that discourages use of {{tag|small}} in an infobox: see [[MOS:SMALL]]. Like many wikipedia guidelines this wasn't delivered from the heavens chiseled in stone, so there's no reason to expect anyone would know that wikipedia has made that style decision if they hadn't run across it before. I used to use smaller text occasionally in infoboxes before I realized that this was a no-no. Given pause to reconsider, I saw that I agreed with the rule and stopped. [[User:Quale|Quale]] ([[User talk:Quale|talk]]) 06:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
::Why not just link to the German name of the place as it was then? If anyone is really interested they can click on the link and get redirected to Barlinek. [[User:MaxBrowne2|MaxBrowne2]] ([[User talk:MaxBrowne2|talk]]) 07:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
:::We wouldn't say that Jesus was born in Israel/Palestine, or that Caesar was born in Italy etc. - we use the historically relevant name. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 10:37, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 
== Infobox Photo ==
 
The infobox photo is an elderly Lasker. He was most famous when he was younger and the reigning world champion. Would it be better to use a photo of a younger Lasker? [[Special:Contributions/74.71.17.99|74.71.17.99]] ([[User talk:74.71.17.99|talk]]) 21:21, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
 
:He had an extraordinarily long career in chess, and at the time of the photo (1929), he still had some major tournaments to go. I do not object to the infobox photo we are currently using, but if you have a particular one in mind, let's discuss it. [[User:Bruce leverett|Bruce leverett]] ([[User talk:Bruce leverett|talk]]) 00:43, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 
== Dates ==
 
As of 2009, when the article achieved GA, it was using mdy dates, although there was no "use mdy dates" directive, musta been ancient history.
 
Lasker was a native of Germany, but he lived in the United States for some years; a photograph of him playing in the St. Petersburg 1909 tournament shows him playing under the U.S. flag. Also, he lived in the Soviet Union for a few years in the 1930's, and then moved to the United States again in 1937. [[User:Bruce leverett|Bruce leverett]] ([[User talk:Bruce leverett|talk]]) 15:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)