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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::What book is you're quote from? [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 14:49, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::It is still the same book I quoted several times with pages. The quote is also up there. White Eagle, Red Star: the Polish-Soviet War, 1919–20. You do not own the book and the pages that talk about the actual war are not present in the online preview. I already told you all this. If you want to read it,, you will have to buy it like I did. [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 14:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::The book says nothing about the soviets supporting the independence of Poland. They formed a communist party in Moscow and definitely didn't support their independence.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Yeah I knew it lmfao. You once again try discredeting the book without owning it, just as I predicted xD
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::The Soviets did not form a communist party of Poland and definetly did support the independence of Poland. Refer to the source.
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::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::This is what Davies writes in the Same book "At the same time, however, they openly supported internationalist Polish communists who aimed at the collapse of the Republic of Poland. " [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 15:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::So they clearly supported Polish independence and did not found a communist party. Thanks for proving yourself wrong again xD [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 15:36, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Did you even read that they supported Polish communists, lol [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 15:39, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Did you even read that supporting Polish communists and literally threatening their independence are completely different things lol [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 15:40, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::They supported Communist which wanted the collapse of the Polish state lol. [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 15:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::They supported communists who wanted to establish a communist Polish state which would still be independent lol [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 15:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::more like as a part of the USSR [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 15:48, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::A state that did not even exist at that time? xD [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 15:52, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::If such a republic would happen it would get annexed by them and no arguments again. [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 15:58, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Once again you failed to form an argument.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::You can not prove or even logically conclude that a communist Poland would get annexed into the later USSR. Like at all. The Hungarian and German socialist states were not meant to be Russian Socialist aligned. The USSR after ww2 did not annex any socialist states either. You are making this bs up on the spot xD
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Come back when you have sources that don't prove you wrong [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 16:03, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:[https://ciesielski-stanislaw.tripod.com/lampe.html] [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 16:12, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Nah you gotta be trolling xD [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 16:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::what is you're point here? [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 18:50, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Page 30: The Bolshevik leaders repeatedly professed their respect for Polish independence for instance. At the same time they openly supported Polish internationalist communists who were working for the downfall of the Polish Republic. Most observers regarded this as hypocritical double-talk. It was suspected that in practice Bolshevik 'independence' meant nothing more than autonomy within a leonine federation, where a centralized ruling party would limit national freedom to matters of schools and street signs. The suspicion was confirmed by the nature of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic as declared in January 1919, and of the Lit-Byel, established in February 1919. The Bolshevik leaders identified the frontiers of Poland with those of the Tsarist 'Congress Kingdom'. To the west of the River Bug, they were ready to tolerate for the time being some sort of Polish national state; to the east of the Bug, they assumed they would inherit the realm of the Tsars [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 15:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::You literally just confirmed what I said xD
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::The Soviets tolerated Polish independence beyond the Curzon line, did not establish a communist polish party and only wanted Ukraine and Belarus. YOU quoted this from the same source xD
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Do you not realise this or something? [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 15:38, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Go message me on Instagram or something [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 14:50, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Even if I had instagram, why would I do that? I want everyone to verifiably see what I posted here xD [[User:RumyantsevPolkovodets|RumyantsevPolkovodets]] ([[User talk:RumyantsevPolkovodets|talk]]) 14:55, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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::His comment was rather that the Poles were agressors and he fails to give me source on why. [[User:Olek Novy|Olek Novy]] ([[User talk:Olek Novy|talk]]) 13:48, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::Disregarding common sense, I see plenty of soures for this fact in the two seperate talk sections in which he participated. Do you have any sources to prove the contrary? Especially since you seem to be the claimant?
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== Infobox "Result" ==
Please note that [[Template:Infobox military conflict#Parameters]] states against "result" that "this parameter may use one of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive"." The infobox has been amended to reflect this. Please read the template "result" guidance in full before amending or reverting. It would probably be best to discuss any proposed change here first to seek consensus. Thanks. [[User:Gog the Mild|Gog the Mild]] ([[User talk:Gog the Mild|talk]]) 21:59, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
== “Disputed” is not accurate, and “Polish victory” was the result of the war ==
Yes, some historians say that it wasn’t entirely a Polish victory. Yes, Poland didn’t achieve all it wanted and did receive some losses. However, the war was generally a Polish victory; Poland preserved its independence and acquired a significant portion of territory. [[Polish–Soviet War#CITEREFDuraczyński2012|Even Lenin]] (who isn’t really a humble person to say the least) agreed that the war was a Soviet defeat.
And in case you think I’m making this stuff up, [https://www.britannica.com/event/Russo-Polish-War-1919-1920 here is a source that affirms a “decisive Polish victory” in the war.] [[User:LordOfWalruses|LordOfWalruses]] ([[User talk:LordOfWalruses|talk]]) 00:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
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I would like to expand the article. [[User:The Amused Albanian|The Amused Albanian]] ([[User talk:The Amused Albanian|talk]]) 15:42, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done''': it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EEp --> [[User:Bowler the Carmine|<span style="background:linear-gradient(to right,#1a5fb4,#187148);background-clip:text;color:transparent;">Bowler the Carmine</span>]] | [[User talk:Bowler the Carmine|<span style="color:#813d9c">talk</span>]] 19:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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