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:Not to be rude, but if that's an issue you strongly have, in this particular case it's nobody else's problem but yours; it doesn't seem to have bothered anybody else. I have no idea about Gambale and his venturings/non-venturings into post-bop (I'll just trust what you've written, since it is reliably sourced), other than that it has absolutely nothing to do with [[John Petrucci|Petrucci]] himself having played guitar in a modern jazz fusion style with [[Liquid Tension Experiment]] and [[Jordan Rudess]]. This article is about Gambale and not Petrucci, so try to think about what's best '''for this article''' instead of worrying about another. [[User:Mac Dreamstate|Mac Dreamstate]] ([[User talk:Mac Dreamstate|talk]]) 10:48, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 
::So for example: if a person plays on an album that is free jazz/post-bop, does that then mean that we have to put free jazz & post-bop in the artist's info-box? That's all I want to know, because considering you labeled fusion for Petrucci (he participated on an albums labeled as metal/rock/fusion), then Frank would Frank have to be labeled with post-bop (since he participated on albums labeled as fusion/post-bop)? I just hope you understand what I am trying to say. I'm just not sure on whether these are the rules Wikipedia has on labeling artists.
 
::P.s. A while ago we were discussing how allaboutjazz.com labels a lot of their fusion albums as "fusion/progressive rock". I contacted the fusion editor and this is what he said:
::"Fusion/progressive rock means not both, but 'or'...we already have a great number of categories, so we lump some in together, and these are two that have some historical connection and intersection.
::As someone who writes about prog as well, I'm less worried about category and just happy that I'm allowed to write about it at a jazz site at all!" [[User:Sprecher|Sprecher]] ([[User talk:Sprecher|talk]]) 02:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 
:::I, too, am unsure of Wikipedia's rules about lumping individual artists on an album under a bunch of genres on their own articles. I just use instinct and what my ears tell me, as well as concrete sources. In Petrucci's case, '''all bandmembers''' on the Liquid Tension Experiment albums could be considered to have played in a jazz fusion style, among others. Their aim, collectively, was to do some kind of crazy blend of metal, rock and fusion. In Gambale's case, while he has indeed played on albums where Chick Corea has done the post-bop thing, you have to ask yourself: has '''he himself''' played his own instrument—the guitar—in a post-bop style? That's for you to decide and take the initiative. If you don't think he has played in that style, even though he participated with others who did, then don't add the genre. When it comes to something as subjective and wide-ranging as music, as well as artists who are stylistically worlds apart like Petrucci and Gambale, there is no one-size-fits-all deal. One has to look at what and how they're playing on an individual basis. [[User:Mac Dreamstate|Mac Dreamstate]] ([[User talk:Mac Dreamstate|talk]]) 04:06, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 
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So for example: if a person plays on an album that is free jazz/post-bop, does that then mean that we have to put free jazz & post-bop in the artist's info-box? That's all I want to know, because considering you labeled fusion for Petrucci (he participated on an albums labeled as metal/rock/fusion), then Frank would have to be labeled with post-bop (since he participated on albums labeled as fusion/post-bop)? I just hope you understand what I am trying to say. I'm just not sure on whether these are the rules Wikipedia has on labeling artists.
 
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P.s. A while ago we were discussing how allaboutjazz.com labels a lot of their fusion albums as "fusion/progressive rock". I contacted the fusion editor and this is what he said:
"Fusion/progressive rock means not both, but 'or'...we already have a great number of categories, so we lump some in together, and these are two that have some historical connection and intersection.
As someone who writes about prog as well, I'm less worried about category and just happy that I'm allowed to write about it at a jazz site at all!" [[User:Sprecher|Sprecher]] ([[User talk:Sprecher|talk]]) 02:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)