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:And most of the content removed also falls into undue, trivial, and unencyclopaedic, alongside being poorly sourced. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 03:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
::Just to note I did start an RSN discussion. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 04:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
== Re: Carrington Hospital ==
Hi Traumnovelle - about [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carrington_Hospital&oldid=prev&diff=1253772575 this edit], I wouldn't necessarily have called it Italianate either, but it's referred to as such in a couple of other WP articles ([[Unitec Institute of Technology]], [[Point Chevalier]]). Perhaps it's worth removing the term from there, too? [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small>[[User_talk:Grutness|<span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span>]]</small>'' 03:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
:I've removed those, they are also unsourced. RS call it neoclassical [https://thespinoff.co.nz/business/30-08-2020/aucklands-iconic-building-with-a-complex-history-is-set-for-a-new-chapter] [https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350182131/what-going-derelict-former-psychiatric-hospital].
:I will take a look through some archaeological reports and see what they state, personally I'd call it Victorian. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 03:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
== Tokomairiro ==
This appears to be a valid name for Milton. I've seen sources use it to refer to the town/area. Correct me if I'm wrong. <span style="font-family:cursive;color:DarkBlue;cursor:help"><span>[[User:Alexeyevitch|Alexeyevitch]]</span><sup>([[User talk:Alexeyevitch|talk]])</sup></span> 11:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
:I said it is probably true based on some evidence such as the name of the church but there needs to be a source for us to state it. I don't believe the Herald source supports the claim appropriately. Lots of towns are built on land that originally had a Maori name but it was not usually adopted at the town name. The Bruce Herald article isn't specific enough to confirm if they are referring to the name of the district instead of the town. It is possible that Tokomairiro is the name of the district but not the town.
:I think Milton (langx|Maori|Tokomairiro) would be fine with the current sourcing but I don't believe the current sourcing supports the claim that the ''town'' itself was originally known as Tokomairiro. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 18:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
== Mister Organ ==
Hi Traumnovelle, no worries. Having read [[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive362#Mister_Organ]], I understand your rationale for removing the expanded synopsis for ''[[Mister Organ]]''. Given the BLP concerns, I agree that it will be best not to include one for the Wikipedia article. Having watched the documentary for myself, neither Mr Organ and [[David Farrier]] don't come out looking very good. While Mr Organ is portrayed as a villain, Farrier isn't exactly the white knight he makes himself out to be. It reminds me of the conflict between the Harkonnens and House Atreides in [[Dune (novel)|''Dune'']]. Cheers. [[User:Andykatib|Andykatib]] ([[User talk:Andykatib|talk]]) 10:37, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
== No Māori Allowed ==
Hi Traumnovelle, I have sought some feedback on the [[Draft:No Māori Allowed]] article at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand/Māori task force#No Māori Allowed]]. I thought this might be of interest to you given your previous work on the [[Pukekohe]] article. Cheers. [[User:Andykatib|Andykatib]] ([[User talk:Andykatib|talk]]) 21:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
:It's not really my forté but as I said in the Pukekohe article Bartholomew's source is self-published and shouldn't be used for controversial historical information. Weren't you able to source the details from reliable sources before, could those not be used instead? Also 'One publisher had described his book as too pro-Maori' needs to be attributed to Bartholomew as it is an attributed quote in the source and not a verifiable fact.
:I'm not too sure as to notability currently. Are there any sources somewhat after the release? Anything over a month after release still discussing it, esp. if academic/not NZ news media would make me believe notability has been met. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 07:50, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
::Hi Traumnovelle, thanks for your advice. I could possibly condense the background section to two or three paragraphs since it covers the book rather than the documentary. I could also include some sources which have cited the book. Will gather more sources on the film as well. Will not rush it since I want it to be of a high quality before publishing it. [[User:Andykatib|Andykatib]] ([[User talk:Andykatib|talk]]) 20:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Undoing ==
Undo undoes everything a fellow editor did. It is best to fix only the offending part of an edit. <span style="font-family: Cambria;"> [[User:Abductive|<span style="color: teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 10:57, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
:The rest of your edit had no impact on the rendered article. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 11:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
::Scratch that, the white space you added made a reference use up two lines instead of one. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 11:04, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
== notable album that cannot have this key information sourced elsewhere ==
Ey, I wanted to see if I could close the Discogs discussion when I noticed your hanging question. I do have an example: I think it's very much of encyclopedic interest that "Hidden in the Sand" and "The Bidding", [https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=TALLY+HALL RIAA gold songs] from [[Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum (album)]], were written by Joe Hawley. However, this information was not reported in reliable sources. In fact, most of the writer information across the entire album went unreported in reliable sources.<br>
Really not sure where to post this as the RfC is archived, so I'll just post this here in case you can figure out where I should put it lol. rest assured i will not be closing that rfc now that ig i'm involved [[User:Aaron Liu|<span class="skin-invert" style="color:#0645ad">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 04:18, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
:If I saw that at AfD I'd probably vote delete unless further sourcing was found. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 04:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
::Well the album is definitely notable. Part of its coverage is covering its contents, including its most popular tracks. I think writer information is definitely essential. [[User:Aaron Liu|<span class="skin-invert" style="color:#0645ad">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 04:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
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