Cgoodwin

Hi Cg, peek at the above article, someone was removing [[Australian Draught Horse]], claiming it is a fictional breed. This is more in your balliwick than mine, I reverted, but you may wish to watchlist and comment if needed. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 18:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Your account has been granted the "<tt>{{mono|reviewer<tt>}}" userright, allowing you to to [[WP:Reviewing|review other users' edits]] on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a [[WP:Pending changes|a two-month trial]] at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).

I just created a new article to clean up some red links: [[Pickup rider]]. Feel free to go in and tweak for any Australian variants or correct any errors! Also, if you use different terms, please add them and, if you like, create relevant redirects. Thanks! [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 18:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Would you be interested in helping out as an admin? You've been around quite a long time, and you're clearly experienced enough to take up sysop activities. The growth in admins lately has been pretty dismal, and though it's not something I usually do, I'd be happy to nominate you at RFA. [[User:Steven Walling|<fontspan style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]]</fontspan>]] 18:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

:Awesome! Well I will get going on a nomination and let you know when to jump in. [[User:Steven Walling|<fontspan style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]]</fontspan>]] 21:53, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, I'd suggest and opt in to the various options for getting a closer look at your edit count per [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Nominate#Reminders|the reminders here]]. Cheers, [[User:Steven Walling|<fontspan style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]]</fontspan>]] 22:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

:I urge you to answer the new questions on the RfA as soon as possible, as that often makes the difference in how people will vote. '''[[User:Soap|<fontspan colorstyle="color: green;">—</fontspan>]][[User talk:Soap|<fontspan colorstyle="color: #057602;">''Soap''</fontspan>]][[Special:Contributions/Soap|<fontspan colorstyle="color: green;">—</fontspan>]]''' 18:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I have [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3A{{PAGENAMEU}} granted] rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe you can be trusted to use rollback correctly, and for its intended usage of ''reverting [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]'', and that you will not abuse it by reverting [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|good-faith]] edits or to [[Wikipedia:Edit war|revert-war]]. For information on rollback, see [[Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback]] and [[Wikipedia:Rollback feature]]. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. '''[[User:NuclearWarfare|<fontb colorstyle="color:navy;">[[User:NuclearWarfare|NW]]</fontb>''']] ''(<font color="green">[[User talk:NuclearWarfare|<span style="color:green;">Talk]]</fontspan>]])'' 22:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry it's starting to turn this way. I think it's clear enough that you would be willing to learn all these things and take the tools very slowly, but adminship is not a provisional thing, so I guess I can see their argument there. Hope that you will speak with your nominator after the RfA is over to see where you want to go from here. Best, '''[[User:Ceranthor|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#2F4F4F"; face="font-family:Optima;">ceran</fontspan>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#2F4F4F"; face="font-family:Optima;">''thor''</fontspan>]] 19:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

::Yikes! What a pileon! Hope this isn't getting you down. I'd be spitting tacks about now, which is probably why I don't think I'll ever want to be an admin. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 04:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

::An RfA ''can'' technically be withdrawn by the candidate indicating he wishes for it to end. Then someone uninvolved can close it at that time. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<fontspan colorstyle="color: darkgreen;">日本穣</fontspan>]]^{[[Help:Installing Japanese character sets|?]]} · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<fontspan colorstyle="color: blue;">投稿</fontspan>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<fontspan colorstyle="color: maroon;">Join WikiProject Japan</fontspan>]]!</small> 15:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

*Hang in there and keep your chin up. [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/J04n|If at first]] you don't succeed [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/J04n 2|try again]]. Take your time and answer the questions, you will only learn from the experience. <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Century Gothic;">[[User:J04n|J04n]]([[User talk:J04n|talk page]])</fontspan> 13:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

:: Just work a bit as an editor in the administrative related area's such as vandalism and newpage patrol, and get some working experience and affinity with the policies related to them (I can guarantee you that they vary quite a bit from FA related rules, and that there are a lot of details). Once people see that you are knowledgeable in those area's you will breeze trough the next RFA. Or alternatively you might conclude that you don't like the maintenance work, and that you prefer writing article's. Either way, keep in mind that an admin is simply a Wikipedian-style cleaner with a bucket on his head, a mop in his hand and some sponge's under his soles. I know it sounds comical, but it is really quite accurate (In a figurative way). An admin is in no way more important or valuable then any other Wikipedian. [[User:Excirial|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#191970;">'''Excirial''']]</fontspan>]]^{([[User talk:Excirial|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</fontspan>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</fontspan>]])} 20:13, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I regret to inform you that [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cgoodwin|your RfA]] has been closed with an indication that [[WP:NOTNOW|now is not the time]]. Please do not let this discourage you, however. Use this as a learning experience and apply the feedback given by those who participated (especially those who opposed or who were neutral). I strongly encourage and recommend that you read and become very familiar with [[Wikipedia:Administrators]], all of the pages listed on [[Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list|the admin reading list]], the [[Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship|guide to requesting adminship]], and the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide|how-to guide]]. After several months, once you have more experience and knowledge under your belt, you may consider running again. Please let me know if you have any questions. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<fontspan colorstyle="color: darkgreen;">日本穣</fontspan>]]^{[[Help:Installing Japanese character sets|?]]} · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<fontspan colorstyle="color: blue;">投稿</fontspan>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<fontspan colorstyle="color: maroon;">Join WikiProject Japan</fontspan>]]!</small> 15:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

::Though that was running for bureaucratship, not adminship. Just to be clear. :) ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<fontspan colorstyle="color: darkgreen;">日本穣</fontspan>]]^{[[Help:Installing Japanese character sets|?]]} · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<fontspan colorstyle="color: blue;">投稿</fontspan>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<fontspan colorstyle="color: maroon;">Join WikiProject Japan</fontspan>]]!</small> 04:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)***Corrected - [[User:Ret.Prof|Ret.Prof]] ([[User talk:Ret.Prof|talk]]) 03:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

:::I gotta say that after watching this one, I will probably never bother to even try become an admin. If Cg got slammed this hard for having a clean record of NOT engaging in dramas and getting over-involved, someone like myself with a track record is doomed. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 22:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

::::The problem with RfA is that it is the one area where people are basically encouraged to attack other users personally. It's a big issue and a major reason why adminship growth has basically gone the way of the Dodo. [[User:Steven Walling|<fontspan style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]]</fontspan>]] 00:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry it didn't go well. On one hand, I know it's a little draining and a waste of time you could spend on other things. On the other hand, it's an interesting learning experience and as others have pointed out, it's not uncommon to fail your first RfA (I did!). I would like to say that many of the opposes were of a particularly tiresome strain that has cursed the process lately (I'm talking here about the "doesn't need the tools" junk especially). All in all, it's good not to take it personally, even if RfA is one of the few places were users are encouraged to sound off about your editing with few checks on their behavior or requirements to be courteous. Thank you again for accepting my nomination, [[User:Steven Walling|<fontspan style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]]</fontspan>]] 00:30, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

:::I think that the RfA process is very flawed. Basically, regardless of Cg's individual merits, which are substantial, the whole thing feels like what would happen if people let all the grad students piling on a professor seeking tenure! =:-O There's got to be a better way of doing this. I mean, slamblasting someone for AVOIDING AIV and WQAs and ANI? That's a problem! [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 21:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Cg, can you find a photo of a Tattersall? I've been ripping my hair out (well, once in a while) trying to find a copyright free image of the old ring spades (or, for that matter, a modern spade) with little success. (There is a tack store 60 miles from here that MIGHT have some spades on the rack, but then I have to remember to take the turn off, drive 10 miles off the interstate, sigh, the things I do for wiki...LOL!) Anyway, I appreciate the work you are doing on that article, and thanks! [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 17:05, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Just a FYI on the various article renamings and such, my basic position is that I'm with you on Stockman, and I also see your view on having articles (at least, non-stub articles) on Au agriculture named what they are in Au when unique enough, though we may ''also'' need articles about the generic overall worldwide concept (like whatever we wind up naming the Livestock/Animal Unit piece). The trick for me will be figuring out when there is actually something unique (Australian Stock Horse versus generic Stock horses) or if we are just using different words for very similar things (cattle crush/cattle squeeze chute). On that note, I'm not sure if I did the right thing to toss the US roundup stuff into the mustering article; seems the basic outline is pretty similar, but wondering if there is a need to explain the differences more...dunno. Anyway, my point (I have a point, somewhere) is that I think I see where you are coming from and have general supportive feelings even if I spat and argue a bit! ;-) [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 06:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

::69.3.72.9, that is inappropriate. A meatpuppet is when someone goes and recruits a bunch of people, particularly non-previous editors, to dogpile on an article. Here, Cg and I happen to be wiki-acquaintences of long standing, and we don't necessarily agree on every single article, so I wanted to tell Cg that I FULLY SUPPORT Cg's position here. By the way, why don't you log in under you wikipedia ID, because you are clearly an experienced user with a clear interest in disambiguation issues, given your similar behavior at [[ranch]]. [[cowman]], [[ranch foreman]], [[cattle rancher]], [[cattle barron]] (sic), [[stockgrower]], and so on. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 02:15, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

::Well, anon 69 got an innocent closer to move the article. I see you did some editing on it. I'm raising a stink that the article was moved without consensus, but if you don't care and think I should back off, I'll take that into consideration. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 00:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I suppose it's a question of choosing one's battles. Sigh. (I suspect this anon user is someone who has previously been blocked for moving articles without consensus.) [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 20:14, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::It was the second time these changes had been reverted, for one thing. I had to fix their mess the first time. Cg is an experienced editor and the changes were appropriate. And 69.3.72.249, how about you log in under the User name that you clearly must have? It's patently obvious you aren't a newbie, whoever you are. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 20:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Just an FYI that user 69.3.72.249 just filed an ANI on me. Pretty sure I know who this user actually is, but for now am just looking at their behavior as an anon. Some of this came about from the move discussion at Stockman. You don't have to do anything if you don't care to, but I'm letting you know what's up. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 02:07, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

:And now they are blocked. Ahhhh... [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 02:30, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

That darn bot tagged two Aussie citation with a deadlink tag in the [[Thoroughbred]] article . Sometimes the bot is wrong. Can you check the links and see if they really are dead? If they are, can you find new sources for the same info? If they aren't, can you toss the tags and tell the bot owner to note them as exceptions? (The same bot tagged other non-dead stuff as dead earlier, so I tend to verify their tags before tossing...). Figured you'd be the best person to fix them if they are dead. Hope all else is well with you! [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 02:25, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

[http://earth911.com/news/2010/12/09/agritourism-gets-interactive-with-rent-a-cow-programs/ ] See the image credit. That's free licenses at work! :-) [[User:Steven Walling|<fontspan style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]]</fontspan>]] 16:10, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

:I GOTTA figure out a way to make a gig like that work ... people pay you to do manual labor, particularly hauling manure? Oh YESSSS! [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 23:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

CG, seems [[bull riding]] is under attack as having an insufficiently global focus. Can you add anything there about Australian variants? [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 10:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks for what you added! Much appreciated! [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 00:50, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

:I was just lurking, but don't forget [[calf fries]] aka [[Rocky Mountain Oysters]]! LOL! [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 00:50, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

FYI, we have a new WPEQ person who rebuilds saddles and uploaded a bunch of saddle photos, some showing innards and some showing Aussie saddles. Could have fun with these! [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 17:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Cg, my handy horsey dictionary (published in the USA) claims that the term "hack" is used in Australia to mean "to present, exhibit or compete, as in a horse show." Aside from the really awkward wording, it is true? I'm going to be putting a little bit of sourceing into [[hack (horse)]] and if you could check that and fix my errors in Au uses of the term, I'd be grateful! Thanks. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 03:29, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Just a thanks for the cleanup of the bit stuff. A lot of the tack articles were originally created around 2006 or so by User:Eventer, who was a nice person but not around much any more. She was helpful to me when I came on, but also in those days it was more OK to just write stuff without sources and there was a lot more tolerance of "how to" content. So there's a lot of that in the equipment articles. Usually, any article with a lot of "shoulds" in it is one of Eventer's old ones. I cleaned up a lot of them with general wordsmithing and such but most I haven't looked at most of them real closely in years. (That one now-banned editor who used to drive me so nuts sort of targeted the tack articles and I just got tired of going down that road, I guess) [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 04:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

On a different note, we are going to have to sort out the stuff on nickel bit mouthpieces. Over here, they are considered cheap throwaway bits and less desirable than steel, but I note that my Henderson book (I don't have the Edwards book) states that the metal is softer which on one hand is probably why it's less desired here, but the book notes the same properties also may make them more palatable to the horse. Interesting. Curious your thoughts on the matter. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 04:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

::But your explanation makes sense to me. I'll probably have to see if there are any manufacturers of nickel equipment here. It is spoken of, but I know that people keep old stuff around forever too. I've heard the bit about stirrups, I've heard some rumbles that the issue is over stuff manufactured n east Asia. We also, for some reason, have a tack-making industry operated out of some prisons too, must be a holdover from old times. Both are viewed as sources of cheap, shoddy tack. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 05:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Cg, I finally created [[stock contractor]]. Feel free to trot over and expand, add in needed stuff, etc., particularly from the Au viewpoint. I swiped one of your sources, by the way. ;-) [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 19:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

A RfC has been filed by JLAN on this issue. Your input would be helpful as you have an Australian perspective: [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Equine#RFC:_what_units_should_be_used_for_horse_and_pony_heights.3F]]. [[User:Montanabw|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">Montanabw</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 18:45, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Please feel free to make [[Cow-calf operation]] less US-centric. Thanks, <fontspan style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]]&nbsp;&bull;•&nbsp;[[User talk:Steven Walling|<span style="color: #8080b0">talk</span>]]</fontspan> 05:57, 13 August 2011 (UTC)