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== Jlong2008 ==
I was thinking about starting again - i thought of making station signs like they do on the sydney and brisbane ststions... is that a good idea?
 
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Whoops.. I forgot to sign them again... damn--[[User:Jlong2008|Jlong2008]] ([[User talk:Jlong2008#top|talk]]) 02:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 
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Learn the basic of wikipedia - go through the simpler intro - learn how to sign, learn how to do editing etc - try looking around a bit more - then try to get a feew for what is in a project - likje the perth project and the wa project - try that first - [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 02:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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soory bot not listnin... i got some info bout merriwa wa... where bus stops are... the main roads.. information bout the shops and merriwa primary... even the block of units there... i live in merriwa... would that help to have a local write stuff about the suberb there??--[[User:Jlong2008|Jlong2008]] ([[User talk:Jlong2008#top|talk]]) 02:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Jordan. Is there such a thing as a Fremantle Railway Station Logo? Correct me if I'm wrong but you appear to be using your artistic skills to devise an image which purports to be a copy of an official logo. Do you have a photo of an official logo which looks like this one? Please let me know the background to this. &mdash;[[User talk:Moondyne|''Moondyne'']] <small>[[Portal:Cricket/Anniversaries|click!]]</small> 08:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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:OK. I'd not seen it before. I presume scale, font, borders, text colour and background colours are all reasonably accurate. &mdash;[[User talk:Moondyne|''Moondyne'']] <small>[[Portal:Cricket/Anniversaries|click!]]</small> 09:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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If it is a copy of an official logo, you don't "own" it - Transperth owns the logo and you are merely presenting a facsimile copy which you created. It is not "obtainable" by contacting you - anyone can get it by viewing the page. If you need help to fix, please ask. &mdash;[[User talk:Moondyne|''Moondyne'']] <small>[[Portal:Cricket/Anniversaries|click!]]</small> 09:43, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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:OK, I tidied it up and added a license tag as required also. You can modify it if needed, but I suspect its OK now. &mdash;[[User talk:Moondyne|''Moondyne'']] <small>[[Portal:Cricket/Anniversaries|click!]]</small> 10:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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== Your additions to [[Fremantle railway line, Perth]] ==
 
==Fair use rationale for [[:Image:North fremantle.jpg]]==
Hi Jlong2008, I have seen your additions to [[Fremantle railway line, Perth]] and I am very sure they, along with additions to the other lines, would be a huge improvement to the rail pages. However, as Wikipedia is [[WP:CRYSTAL|not a place to make predictions]], the second picture has got to go. The first picture is great but Fremantle is spelled incorrectly. Lastly, your pictures look a lot like the original [[Transperth]] maps, so I hope that these graphics are indeed self-made as Wikipedia has a stringent copyright policy. Thanks. [[User:Sandstorm6299|리지강.wa.au]] <small><sub>[[User talk:Sandstorm6299|talk]]</sub></small> 13:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to '''[[:Image:North fremantle.jpg]]'''. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]] but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to [[:Image:North fremantle.jpg|the image description page]] and edit it to include a [[Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline|fair use rationale]].
: Even if they are self-made, Transperth holds a copyright on the little stylised train symbol they use, and the use of the Transperth timetable font for the stations is not promising either. I have deleted it per I3 (improper licence). I'd also note that the [[Fremantle railway line, Perth]] article already has route maps, so a duplicate one may not be necessary. [[User talk:Orderinchaos|Orderinchaos]] 07:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 
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== Your additions to [[Fremantle railway line, Perth]]==
Please note there may well be problems about '''graphic overload''' on your edits to the article - (and indeed a possible need to revert) - one issue for articles is that they require [[WP:RS]], and references or citations - for [[WP:V]] and [[WP:N]] - extra route maps (when there is already one on the right hand side) may be considered as being quite unnecessary. Please read up on the issues before adding similar graphics on other articles. Does the article really need all that graphic information when there is not even one citation? cheers - this will also be up for discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Western_Australia - thanks [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 07:53, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 
==Transperth train line map==
''I am currently making a transperth trainline map like the one on their trains - it will have some extra information on it unlike their one!--[[User:Jlong2008|Jlong2008]] ([[User talk:Jlong2008|talk]]) 09:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)''
:Do we need another one? What will it have that [[:Image:TransperthRailwayMap.svg]] doesn't? &mdash;[[User talk:Moondyne|''Moondyne'']] <small>[[Portal:Cricket/Anniversaries|click!]]</small> 10:51, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::Jlong, will making a new map improve the article? Provide more clarity? Provide more information? A new map would be good if it can be further improved on the current one. Would you care to share your improvements? [[User:Sandstorm6299|리지강.wa.au]] <small><sub>[[User talk:Sandstorm6299|talk]]</sub></small> 11:05, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::It will be in a way like the one on the trains... a map which people that use the train will be able to understand--[[User:Jlong2008|Jlong2008]] ([[User talk:Jlong2008#top|talk]]) 11:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I also question the need for the signs/logs above (Image:North fremantle.jpg and Image:Fremantle Station Logo.jpg). Do they really improve the articles? Sorry, but I don't think so and I'd like to ask you to reconsider before spending time creating more of similar. As for a new map, the one I mentioned above is very, very good and I fear you may spend a lot of time creating something that is similar and may just get discarded. I can't stop you creating something new but be aware that there isn't room for two similar maps in the articles. The articles are bursting at the seams already with graphics and this degrades the articles, it doesn't improve them.
 
Jordan, please don't be discouraged - we really do appreciate you contributing, but be aware that what the articles really need is prose, not maps and images - words about the history of stations, the lines and the general infrastructure.
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Please do not add further items to railway line articles until a discussion of at least a couple of days occurs at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Western_Australia - meanwhile - have a look at thge extended welcome template - you should find a bit more about the place - cheers [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 08:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 
Also, please don't post the same message all over the Wikipedia, most of the regulars have each others talk pages and the respective project pages watchlisted, so a single posting to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Western Australia]] would probably have sufficed. Multiple postings just annoy people. &mdash;[[User talk:Moondyne|''Moondyne'']] <small>[[Portal:Cricket/Anniversaries|click!]]</small> 11:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
==Thanks u guys... jks==
:By the way, there is also [[:Image:Perth Railway map.svg]] which is probably similar to what you're talking about. &mdash;[[User talk:Moondyne|''Moondyne'']] <small>[[Portal:Cricket/Anniversaries|click!]]</small> 12:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jlong 2008 here!!! the Creater of that map on the fremantle line... Thanks for making a 13yr old's feelings hurt... i put lots of effort into that! There is no coopyright issues in it i think... The bus logo i made my self. The writing is just random writing i found on my puter, i got the colours as close as possible and also... it was made originally for an english assignment! I got lots of praise from my computer teachers and art teachers for that!... they watched me make it!!! so anyway... now I've made ones for all the transperth and transwa lines for no use now! plus i was just making the pages a bit more attractive. One user from the perth thingy said that it would be a great idea for me to make one for every line... which i did! i even made the station signs to go on the station pages.. but who care bout that... now i feel bad bout wat i did... BYE! --[[User:Jlong2008|Jlong2008]] ([[User talk:Jlong2008#top|talk]]) 08:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 
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::Please note that just because you make some images - does not mean they might be - suitable without going through a process to make sure they are ok - there is nothing to feel bad about - you just have to be a bit more patient rather than saying ''bye'' - you have to understand there are things about online encyclopedias more than ''bit more attractive'' - there are processes to understand what is already in an article - and what can go in and what cannot. If you actually hang around a bit longer than a day - and actually readup - you could well find other areas that your obviously good computer skills could be put to use - just because a couple of us have an issue - does not mean you might not be able to help in other areas - change your mind - stay around and have a look at a bit more - you might be suprised to find there are other area where your skills could be of great help! [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 08:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
History not histery, and please note that if you find information and copy it out - you will find that someone will revert your edit. Why? because copying someones elses work is breaching copyright - you must attribute sources and try not to copy out as is - please try to find some way of correcting your spelling - thanks [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 03:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
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Sorry bout before! But the only thing i like is the metropolitan train services in perth... ive even had prediction about the futuer eg. fremantle extenting from fremantle to rockingham and from perth to airport... i even made a map for that.. cool eh... i wish i could show u though!!--[[User:Jlong2008|Jlong2008]] ([[User talk:Jlong2008#top|talk]]) 08:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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Sounds good but wikipedia is not a crystal ball http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball - try looking at something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction - or have a look at articles that might connect with the fremantle train line - if you go through the articles about the lines and stations there might be something '''other than''' the extra route map that might need some help - and if you get an idea - try talking with others at the WA project discussion page first - it would be a good idea to run the idea past first - then its less likely to have problems if it is given an ok - cheers [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 09:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)