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'''[[User talk:Maxim\|<span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="color:#FF7133">Maxim</span><sub><small style="color:blue;">(talk)</small></sub></span>]]''' 02:52, 20 November 2021 (UTC) ~~:The~~Hi ~~account~~folks, isI'd ~~locked~~like ~~now.~~to ~~For~~request ~~what~~access ~~it's~~to ~~worth,~~interface ~~the~~administrator ~~"not~~permissions ~~yet~~to ~~found~~work aon ~~steward"~~gadgets ~~was~~and ~~more~~the ofMediaWiki: anamespace ~~Maxim~~(as ~~issue~~I ~~than~~mentioned ain ~~steward~~Q1 ~~issue.~~of my [[WP:AELECT]] statement) --/ ~~'''~~[[User:Sohom ~~talk:Maxim~~Datta\|<~~span~~b ~~style~~class="~~font~~skin-~~family:Arial~~invert"~~><span~~ style="color:#~~FF7133~~795cb2;">~~Maxim~~Sohom</~~span~~b>]] ([[User talk:Sohom Datta\|<~~sub><small~~span class="skin-invert" style="color:~~blue~~ #36c;">(talk~~)</small></sub>~~</span>]]~~'''~~ ) 0308:1539, 205 November ~~2021~~2024 (UTC) :~~Well,~~Wasting ~~that~~no ~~was~~time! ~~interesting.~~Just a ~~Kudos~~quick oncomment ~~the~~to ~~reaction~~say ~~time,~~that ~~which~~I ~~was~~know ~~impressive. 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[[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 1911:1519, 295 November ~~2021~~2024 (UTC)▼ ::With the removal of the {{code\|unblockself}} permission back in 2018 (see {{phab\|T150826}}), there shouldn't really be any need for that. The account can be blocked by any admin (even if the compromised account managed to block other admins since they can always block the one who blocked them) and ArbCom can then decide under [[WP:LEVEL1]] which works quite fast anyways (the whole Epbr123 thing happened within a couple of hours while it was night here).Regards [[User:SoWhy\|<span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span>]][[User talk:SoWhy\|<span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span>]] 21:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC) :{{+1}}. History of gadget work such as {{t\|IAER}}s to [[Mediawiki:Gadget-popups.js]]. –[[User:Novem Linguae\|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae\|talk]])</small> 16:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC) :::With the nature of Wikipedia's permissions, and probably the exact issues that Maxim mentions above, I believe it will always be a good idea to remove sysop from a blocked compromised admin as soon as possible. I remember confirming this the last time I was blocked. -- [[user:zzuuzz\|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz\|(talk)]]</sup> 21:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC) :{{+1}} – [[User:DreamRimmer\|<span style="color:black">'''DreamRimmer'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:DreamRimmer\|'''talk''']])</small> 16:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC) ::::While this looks to be a somewhat random occurrence where they didn't even try to use the admin toolset, I tend to agree that an immediate desysop is the right move. Even while blocked they can still do things like view deleted material, and only users who have passed an RFA or equivalent process are permitted to do that. [[User:Beeblebrox\|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox\|talk]]) 20:25, 24 November 2021 (UTC) :'''Support''' <span class ="nowrap vcard"><b><span class="fn">[[User:NightWolf1223\|<span style="color:green;">NightWolf1223</span>]]</span> <[[User talk:NightWolf1223\|<span style="color:green;">Howl at me</span>]]•[[Special:Contributions/NightWolf1223\|<span style="color:green;">My hunts</span>]]></b></span> 16:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC) :::::{{re\|Beeblebrox}} Could ArbCom "give" this right to crats after a private discussion/vote? If we have an RFC, then someone's going to say "what problem is this trying to solve?", at which point people will chime in, on a highly-attended page, with all the things blocked admins can do. [[User:Suffusion of Yellow\|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow\|talk]]) 22:54, 24 November 2021 (UTC) * '''Strong support''' [[User:Queen of Hearts mobile\|<span style="color: darkred;">charlotte</span>]] [[User talk:Queen of Hearts\|<sup style="color: darkred;">👸♥📱</sup>]] 17:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC) ::::::{{peanut}} If you're referring to giving bureaucrats the permission to desysop administrators without having to wait for a Committee motion or having to rely on IAR, that would be a major change in policy{{snd}}somehow, I suspect the community would not be receptive to the Committee making policy behind closed doors. [[User:Sdrqaz\|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz\|talk]]) 23:10, 24 November 2021 (UTC) :Neither request is a second RFA, people. If there are concerns, please feel free to voice them, but otherwise crats will process IA requests without particular unexpected delay. [[User:Izno\|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno\|talk]]) 17:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC) ::::::: Yes, but ''only'' in the case of compromised accounts. And obviously, ArbCom would always be able to overrule the crat and restore permissions, after the fact. That doesn't sound like the sort of thing that would upset people, but perhaps I'm being overly optimistic. [[User:Suffusion of Yellow\|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow\|talk]]) 23:29, 24 November 2021 (UTC) ::::::::This would only apply in cases where a 'crat was aware there was an issue before the earlier of 3 arbs (see [[WP:LEVEL1]]) or a steward (who are explicitly permitted to use their tools in an emergency situation - see [[WP:GRP#Stewards]]), so the need is hardly urgent. I can see the benefit in explicitly allowing a crat to act on their own initiative in cases like this, and also to explicitly allow an arbitrator who is also a crat to wear both hats, however I don't see any reason why this couldn't or shouldn't be a community-led change. ::::::::FWIW, a quick search of the archives of this page suggests we average about 1 emergency desysop per year, with 1 each in 2018 and 2019, none in 2020, and 2 in 2021 (February and November). [[User:Thryduulf\|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf\|talk]]) 00:48, 25 November 2021 (UTC) :::::::::I kept some notes from the burst of compromised accounts in 2018 and 2019 and know of three admin accounts that were desysopped as compromised in 2019. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 November 2021 (UTC) ::::::::::{{ping\|Suffusion of Yellow}} to answer your question directly, no. The committee is not empowered to alter policy on it's own. [[User:Beeblebrox\|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox\|talk]]) 05:25, 25 November 2021 (UTC) Block and process is generally OK. I think we have vary [[WP:IAR]] removed in a blatant takeover attempt at least once, but any 'crat would do so at their own risk. — [[User:Xaosflux\|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux\|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 02:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC) FWIW, I agree that this was a reasonable way to respond to a suspected compromise. '''[[User:MBisanz\|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:MBisanz\|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]</sup> 03:38, 28 November 2021 (UTC) :These 2 IADMIN requests might be ready for closure. Commenting in case it got lost in all the other activity below. –[[User:Novem Linguae\|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae\|talk]])</small> 06:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ~~== Voluntarily resigning my administrative permissions ==~~ ::I set the timer but didn't hear it go off. [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 12:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ▲:{{rfplinks\|Sanchom}} :{{done}}. [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 12:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC) Hello, I haven't been doing much administrative work. As suggested by the message left by [[User:JJMC89 bot]], I would like to voluntarily resign my administrative permissions. [[User_talk:Sanchom\|Sancho]] 03:18, 23 November 2021 (UTC) == IAdmin request (SD0001) == :{{done}} with thanks for your prior service. — [[User:Xaosflux\|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux\|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 04:12, 23 November 2021 (UTC) {{rfplinks\|SD0001}} ~~== Resigning admin permissions ==~~ Hi, I am requesting intadmin rights as I've been active in raising [[:Category:Wikipedia interface-protected edit requests\|IPERs]] and would now love to help out with requests from others. I have quite a few [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=SD0001&namespace=8&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=50 edits] in MediaWiki namepace before becoming an admin {{p}}. – [[User:SD0001\|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #C30">SD0001</span>]] ([[User talk:SD0001\|talk]]) 15:57, 5 November 2024 (UTC) Hi, I haven't been doing admin work any more. I'd like to voluntarily give up my administrator flag. Happy to have contributed to the project! ›[[User:mysid\|<font color="#ff1ee7">mys</font><font color="#a21eff">id</font>]] ([[User talk:Mysid\|☎]][[User:Mysid/guestbook\|✎]]) 19:12, 29 November 2021 (UTC) ▲:{{done}}. [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 19:15, 29 November 2021 (UTC) :Absolutely expected. To use TNT's words on another request, I know <s>Sohom</s> SD0001 to be a highly technically proficient editor who will be careful with this right. [[User:Hey man im josh\|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh\|talk]]) 16:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC) :{{+1}}. Extensive history of gadget work. –[[User:Novem Linguae\|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae\|talk]])</small> 16:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC) :{{+1}} – [[User:DreamRimmer\|<span style="color:black">'''DreamRimmer'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:DreamRimmer\|'''talk''']])</small> 16:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC) :'''Support''' <span class ="nowrap vcard"><b><span class="fn">[[User:NightWolf1223\|<span style="color:green;">NightWolf1223</span>]]</span> <[[User talk:NightWolf1223\|<span style="color:green;">Howl at me</span>]]•[[Special:Contributions/NightWolf1223\|<span style="color:green;">My hunts</span>]]></b></span> 16:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC) '''Strong support''' [[User:Queen of Hearts mobile\|<span style="color: darkred;">charlotte</span>]] [[User talk:Queen of Hearts\|<sup style="color: darkred;">👸♥📱</sup>]] 17:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC) :Standard 48 hour hold is in effect. [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 17:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC) ::{{done}}. [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 12:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC) == Resysop request (Pppery) == ~~== [[Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2021#December 2021]] ==~~ {{rfplinks\|Pppery}} Can I have my admin and interface admin rights back? Thanks. [[User:Pppery\| Pppery ]] [[User talk:Pppery\|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 22:45, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :After 24 hours for admin. Unless you need IA right away it probably makes more sense to do them both at the same time. [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 22:52, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :: I don't. And per policy {{tq\|The interface administrator right may be granted only to existing administrators}} so it's not allowed anyway. [[User:Pppery\| Pppery ]] [[User talk:Pppery\|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 22:56, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :::I knew there was another reason not to grant early... [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 11:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC) :Desysop was request was [[Special:Permalink/1242102798#Desysop request (Pppery)\|August 2024]], last admin action was the day before. [[User:Thryduulf\|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf\|talk]]) 23:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :{{done}}. [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 14:17, 9 November 2024 (UTC) :::Welcome back to tool use, Pppery. We appreciate you're stepping up at this time. [[User:BusterD\|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD\|talk]]) 14:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC) ::Yay! Welcome back! [[User:Robertsky\|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky\|talk]]) 14:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC) ::Whoot! I needed that this week... <b>[[User:HouseBlaster\|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster\|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b> ([[User talk:HouseBlaster\|talk]] • he/they) 04:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :::[[User:Pppery\|* Pppery ]], I just saw the big A by your username on a comment you made and realized you're an admin again. Welcome back! You've been missed. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz\|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz\|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz\|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 05:27, 11 November 2024 (UTC) == Desysop request (Dank) == The following [[Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2021#December 2021\|inactive]] administrators are being desysoped due to [[Wikipedia:Administrators#Procedural_removal_for_inactive_administrators\|inactivity]]. Thank you for your service. {{rfplinks\|Dank}} ~~#{{admin\|Ryan Norton}}~~ I'm going to be away for a bit longer ... erring on the side of caution, I'd like to turn in my tools for now. Please and thanks. - Dank ([[User talk:Dank\|push to talk]]) 13:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ~~#:<small>Last admin action: July 2010</small>~~ :{{done}}, please let us know if you need any advanced perms. [[User:Primefac\|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac\|talk]]) 13:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC) ~~#{{admin\|Kateshortforbob}}~~ ~~#:<small>Last admin action: December 2018</small>~~ == [[Wikipedia:Administrator recall/Fastily]] has been closed as successful == ~~#{{admin\|Wrp103}}~~ ~~#:<small>Last admin action: July 2008</small>~~ This is to note that the recall petition [[Wikipedia:Administrator recall/Fastily]] had received 25 signatures so was closed by an editor as successful. Per [[WP:RECALL]], {{tq\|The bureaucrats are responsible for ensuring that an RRfA is started within a reasonable time frame. If this does not happen, they may remove the administrator privileges at their discretion.}} ~~#{{admin\|Amalthea}}~~ ~~#:<small>Last admin action: December 2019</small>~~ So a crat should probably be in touch with Fastily for next steps and/or when they start an RRFA after this. [[User:Soni\|Soni]] ([[User talk:Soni\|talk]]) 06:51, 16 November 2024 (UTC) :— [[User:Xaosflux\|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux\|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 00:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC) :No need. I'm aware of what my options are thanks. -[[User talk:Fastily\|<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS';color:Indigo;font-weight:bold;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-size:120%;">Fastily</span>]] 07:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC) == Change to admin policy == Note to bureaucrats that [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators#RFC: Resysoppings after five years with no administrative actions\|this RfC]] was closed with a consensus for Option 2, so the Administrator policy has been changed/clarified. The relevant passage from [[WP:Administrators]] is below with removals struck through and additions underlined. * {{tq\|'''Over five years since administrative tools were last used.''' I<s>n the case of removal due to inactivity, </s>for any administrator who does not have a logged administrator action in five years, bureaucrats should not restore administrator access upon request. <u>This applies to all former administrators</u>}} If there are any clarifications needed let me know. —[[User:Ganesha811\|Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811\|talk]]) 15:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC) :[[User:Ganesha811\|Ganesha811]], you should also update [[Wikipedia:Bureaucrats#Restoration_of_permissions]]. -- [[User:WOSlinker\|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker\|talk]]) 18:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC) ::Done. —[[User:Ganesha811\|Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811\|talk]]) 18:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC) :Thank you for making the change and informing us. '''[[User:Lee Vilenski\|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski\|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski\|contribs]])</sup>''' 18:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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