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== Weak source for "exodus of entertainment talent"? ==
 
In the last paragraph of the lede, the statement "a post-COVID-19 pandemic exodus of entertainment production and talent" does not seem to me to be supported by the cited article, which lists only a handful of actors/musicians who have recently moved their primary residence to other states, many citing personal reasons rather than business or financial concerns. An "exodus of entertainment production and talent" sounds more like a significant upheaval, with hundreds of entertainment professionals and businesses pulling up stakes. Unless there are other news sources that credibly report such a major change in the Hollywood industry, I don't see any reason for this edit (from Feb. 21, 2024) to stand. [[Special:Contributions/2600:100A:B1E3:F356:0:1E:34F8:3101|2600:100A:B1E3:F356:0:1E:34F8:3101]] ([[User talk:2600:100A:B1E3:F356:0:1E:34F8:3101|talk]]) 09:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:I concur. The source is insufficient for the scope claimed by the sentence. It comes off as dishonest POV-pushing. I'm going to remove it outright. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 09:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Semi-arid climate? ==
 
According to the Koppen climate classification, Los Angeles falls into a semi-arid climate, not hot mediterranean. It doesn't really matter what the map shows. The data is much more important to classify the climate. Using the Koppen aridity index, Los Angeles has climatic characteristics more associated with a semi-arid climate than a Mediterranean climate and it would be more appropriate to say that it has a semi-arid climate, with Mediterranean influences. [[User:Farell37|Farell37]] ([[User talk:Farell37|talk]]) 21:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Farell37|Farell37]] You are correct. The aridity threshold would be 376mm for LA and precipitation is below that as of now. I assume this has to do with 1991-2020 climate normals, as they have raised the avg temperature leading to a higher aridity threshold. [[User:Uness232|Uness232]] ([[User talk:Uness232|talk]]) 04:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::Are you sure LA is currently semi arid? [[User:דולב חולב|דולב חולב]] ([[User talk:דולב חולב|talk]]) 09:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes it is! The thereshold is 376 mm in this case, which means if the precipitation is lower than that, It is classified as semi-arid climate. [[User:Farell37|Farell37]] ([[User talk:Farell37|talk]]) 13:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
::how can I calculate the threshold? [[User:דולב חולב|דולב חולב]] ([[User talk:דולב חולב|talk]]) 16:08, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
:::I wonder about Israeli cities. They are considered to be Mediterranean, but vegetation is usually minimal and ends up as several dry grasses with barely any shrubs. [[User:דולב חולב|דולב חולב]] ([[User talk:דולב חולב|talk]]) 16:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
::::To calculate the threshold precipitation, it depends a little on the type of climate classification you use. According to the [[Köppen climate classification|Koppen climate classification]], thereshold is calculated as follows:
::::Multiply the average annual temperature by 2. Then multiply by 10. This is the result of umbral precipitation. Then, it is important to take into account the % of precipitation that occurs in the hottest months of the year (april to september on northen hemisphere and october to march on southern hemisphere):
::::-If less than 30% of the average annual precipitation occurs in the hottest months of the year, then no value is added. Example of a mean annual temperature of 17.5 in which less than 30% of precipitation occurs between the hottest months of the year. 17.5*2 = 35. As I said, it is multiplied at the end by 10, so the threshold precipitation in this case is 350 mm.
::::-If between 30 and 70% of the average annual precipitation occurs between the hottest months of the year, then +14 is added to the result of multiplying the average annual temperature by 2. Example of a mean annual temperature of 17.5 in which at least 30% of precipitation but less than 70% occurs between the hottest months of the year: 17.5*2 = 35+14=49. Multiply by 10 and the hereshold is 490 mm.
::::-If more than 70% of precipitation occurs in the hottest months of the year, then +28 is added.
::::But why is important to take into account the % precipitation that occurs in the hottest months of the year? In the hottest months, evaporation of water from the soil and plants can be high, which can worsen the region's aridity. Therefore, even if some precipitation occurs in the warmer months, if this amount is not enough to compensate for evaporation and provide adequate water for vegetation and other organisms, the region can be classified as semi-arid. The more rain that occurs in the hottest months of the year, the greater the thereshold needed to overcome evaporation and sustain local vegetation and ecosystems.
::::In Mediterranean climates, it is common for vegetation to be scarcer during the summer, but the rain in the autumn and winter months is sufficient to sustain the vegetation. As there is so much rain in these seasons and the summer can be very dry, it classifies the region as Mediterranean and not semi-arid. [[User:Farell37|Farell37]] ([[User talk:Farell37|talk]]) 16:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::Furthermore, If the average annual precipitation is less than 50% of the thereshold, then the region is classified as a [[desert climate]] rather than [[semi-arid]]. [[User:Farell37|Farell37]] ([[User talk:Farell37|talk]]) 16:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::Still seems weird to me.
:::::the landscape here is so semi arid!
:::::Vegetation is so scarce, with scorching hot temperatures. [[User:דולב חולב|דולב חולב]] ([[User talk:דולב חולב|talk]]) 19:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::The temperature is irrelevant here (except if is part of group E). The landscape is also not a important point. The important is the precipitation: if is less than the thereshold, than belongs to the semi-arid climate (or arid if is less than 50% of the thereshold). The landscape can be arid for other reasons, such as [[drought]] [[User:Farell37|Farell37]] ([[User talk:Farell37|talk]]) 19:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 
== Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2024 ==
 
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In the sports section, remove Los Angeles Clippers from the tag about Crypto.com Arena and add Intuit Dome in list of venues. The Clippers season has ended. [[Special:Contributions/47.153.148.108|47.153.148.108]] ([[User talk:47.153.148.108|talk]]) 09:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Charliehdb|Charliehdb]] ([[User talk:Charliehdb|talk]]) 11:14, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
::<ref>https://www.foxla.com/sports/la-clippers-last-regular-season-game-crypto-dot-com-arena</ref><ref>https://www.bizjournals.com/losangeles/news/2022/05/18/clippers-move-to-intuit-dome-offers-options-to-te.html</ref> [[Special:Contributions/47.153.148.108|47.153.148.108]] ([[User talk:47.153.148.108|talk]]) 15:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Hold off until the next season begins and the Intuit Dome is actually open. Unexpected delays could occur, and there's no rush in listing it as open when it is not actually open yet. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 14:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2024 ==
 
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The most common ancestries in Los Angeles are German (3.8%), followed by Irish, English, Italian, Polish and French. Add this information to the demographics section.
 
Source: https://data.census.gov/profile/Los_Angeles_city,_California?g=160XX00US0644000 [[Special:Contributions/103.38.254.254|103.38.254.254]] ([[User talk:103.38.254.254|talk]]) 10:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:AlphaBetaGamma|ABG]] <small> ([[User talk:AlphaBetaGamma|Talk/Report any mistakes here]]) </small> 05:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 
== Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2024 (2) ==
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An example of such a map: https://imgcap.capturetheatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/neighborhood-map-los-angeles.jpg [[Special:Contributions/98.123.38.211|98.123.38.211]] ([[User talk:98.123.38.211|talk]]) 00:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
::Any existing maps on the internet are obviously not free to simply upload into Wikipeadia. So if you feel so passionately about this, why dont YOU make the map you desire? Wikipedia is what we make of it.[[User:Cristiano Tomás|Cristiano Tomás]] ([[User talk:Cristiano Tomás|talk]]) 15:19, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
 
== Infobox image for Calle Olvera ==
 
I was wondering what folks would think about replacing [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Olvera_st_los_angeles_(cropped2).jpg the image we currently use in the infobox] for [[Calle Olvera]] with [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Olvera_Street_in_the_oldest_part_of_downtown_Los_Angeles,_California_LCCN2013632436.tif this newer one], as it seems like basically a strict upgrade of the same subject taken from a very similar angle. The current one from 2004 is really blurry and a bit washed out. While the newer one lacking pedestrians could be seen as a downside, I think this aspect is basically a sidegrade, since while it fails to capture typical people inhabiting the environment, it does draw more attention to the architecture etc. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 02:31, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
 
:The new image is centered on the tree, and I think gives less sense of a street than the old image. [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 12:23, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yeah I agree with Donald, new image is definitely higher quality, but the visual focus is too much on the tree IMO. [[User:Cristiano Tomás|Cristiano Tomás]] ([[User talk:Cristiano Tomás|talk]]) 17:59, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
:::{{re|Donald Albury}} {{re|Cristiano Tomás}} Interesting point I didn't even notice, namely that the street continues in the old image but doesn't in the new one. Withdrawing the proposal since I agree the old image serves this purpose better. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 06:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
 
== Semi-protected edit request on 520 MayNovember 2024 ==
 
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There is a typo in the "Infobox settlement under Goverment" section, where it says "government_type = [[Mayor–council government|Strong mayor–council]]". "[[Mayor–council government|Strong mayor–council]]" is the typo. It should be "[[Strong Mayor]]" this is to avoid confusion with '''Week mayor–council''' which is a Elected Mayor thats apart of the city council Not to be confused with '''council–manager''' Mayors where the Mayor is not elected and is appointed by the City Council for a 1 year term I also want to mention. '''Week mayor–council''' also has a '''city manager''' and this is where the confusion comes in to play the elected mayor is a part of the city council there for its a '''Mayor Council''' form of goverment. '''Mayor Council''' being the confusing Terminology It would be best for to remove '''Strong mayor–council''' and simply put '''Strong Mayor''' to avoid the confusion. [[Special:Contributions/2603:8000:57F0:9D00:4086:FC9:C070:785F|2603:8000:57F0:9D00:4086:FC9:C070:785F]] ([[User talk:2603:8000:57F0:9D00:4086:FC9:C070:785F|talk]]) 05:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{partly done}}:<!-- Template:ESp --> We should use what the sources say, which depending on where you look is either "mayor-council" or "mayor-council-commission", which seem to be essentially the same thing (the cited source in the infobox uses both). I've removed the 'strong'. [[User:DrOrinScrivello|DrOrinScrivello]] ([[User talk:DrOrinScrivello|talk]]) 21:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)