Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2014 October: Difference between revisions

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Norleucine: ''Endorse'''. I opposed at the RM. The IP may be right, but arguments cross the Wikipedia:No original research line. This amino acid is called by this name, and if it was called wrong, secondary sources supporting that need to
Sex Tape (film): Then why are you pushing so hard? If the proposal can't garner more support than it did, then why is it a worthwhile question? I oppose the use of administrative review to push through something that fails due to lack of interest.
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*'''Endorse'''. I have to disagree with Calidum, the alleged consensus was not "clear". If there was a consensus, I would call it "just barely a consensus" or a "rough consensus", but I read the discussion as not quite convincing, easily within admin discretion to have called "no consensus" through to "rough consensus to move", but not stronger. I read in that discussion that reasons for the move strongly rely on a WP:AT policy section, "WP:DIFFCAPS" titled "Using minor details to naturally disambiguate articles", and I also read bursting out from between the lines a lack strong support for this DIFFCAPS, as if it is supported because it is policy but not because it has good reason. This weakness of the policy section is also evident in it self-referentially using the "often heavily debated". So, "per DIFFCAPS" is very weak, DIFFCAPS is directly criticized. On the other hand, both Steel1943 and Cúchullain gave good substantive reason beyond "per DIFFCAPS", and a counter argument, Necrothesp's "Capitals really aren't enough to disambiguate in most cases" is very difficult to weigh. More participants might have been nice. Another admin might well-justifiably have closed as "rough consensus to move". Admin discretion must be given some weight. A discussion on WP:DIFFCAPS is in order. I recommend that Steel1943 try again after two months after the close of this discussion. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 08:38, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
::{{Ping|SmokeyJoe}} With all due respect, I don't see how consensus regarding this discussion is going to change or gain any additional attention after two months. To compare my point to another process performed on Wikipedia, it is not as though the article is trying to change its attitude and try to run for a second [[WP:RFA]] after input from other editors. In addition, as the closer and I mentioned, this discussion had not had additional input for over two weeks prior to its close, and before it was closed, it was sitting at the very bottom of [[WP:RM]]'s backlog. So, I just don't see the benefit or change that will happen if this move discussion is initiated again at a later time. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #2F4F4F;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 17:15, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
:::Then why are you pushing so hard? If the proposal can't garner more support than it did, then why is it a worthwhile question? I oppose the use of administrative review to push through something that fails due to lack of interest. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 04:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 
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