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March 8
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RD: Ramya Wanigasekara
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Divaina Ada Derana
Credits:
- Nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Sri Lankan actor, singer, and radio broadcaster. Titanciwikitalk/contrib 21:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
RD: Jonathan Hunt
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Stuff.co.nz Radio NZ
Credits:
- Nominated by Kiwichris (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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March 7
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RD (blurb?): Akira Toriyama
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Japanese manga artist Akira Toriyama, author of Dragon Ball, dies at the age of 68. (Post)
News source(s): Official X account of Dragon Ball (in Japanese), Oricon (in Japanese) Mainichi Shimbun (in Japanese), The New York Times, BBC, NDTV, The Straits Times
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Died on March 1, but announced on March 8. --210.165.152.210 (talk) 03:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Support once we get additional information. He was the creator of one of the largest intellectual properties ever, after all. Hard to imagine he wasn’t notable enough. RPH (talk) 03:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb Arguably the most famous and influential manga author of all time, certainly in the top 3. Article is already in good shape. PolarManne (talk) 03:27, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb - Absolutely legendary creator. GamerPro64 03:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb. He created Dragon Ball, he deserves one. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 03:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I added Oricon and the Mainichi Shimbun as sources to this nomination. Mlb96 (talk) 03:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb. Transformative figure in anime, known worldwide. RIP. DigitalIceAge (talk) 03:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb Absolutely one of, if not the, most influential figure in his entire industry. Known worldwide, had multiple projects in production. Easy blurb. Parabolist (talk) 03:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Blurb Easily one of if not the most influential modern manga artists. Rest in peace. Link20XX (talk) 03:42, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb Definitely at the top of his field, his work is known worldwide. Johndavies837 (talk) 03:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb Absolutely transformative figure in Japanese Animation, Toriyama was the giant whose shoulders everyone else stood on Spman (talk) 03:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb - Influential in his field and has global recognition. Article is in good shape. SounderBruce 03:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Lots of unreferenced material in the Works section, which is probably too detailed anyway. Stephen 04:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb - There should be no question here. He is in top of his field and very important in the development of animanga fandom & industry and JRPG genre of games through Dragon Quest in the late 20th century. Until then there should be some fixes on the article, then we're good to go. MarioJump83 (talk) 04:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality no RB or Blurb until the works are properly sourced. --Masem (t) 04:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality the works section is still largely unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Support He's one of the single most influential persons in regards to anime and manga. ACasualEditor97 (talk) 05:25, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb - Without a doubt one of the most influential people in anime and manga, and arguably, in modern Asian literature. Fulserish (talk) 05:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Once the sourcing issues are resolved, then strong support blurb per above. ~~lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 05:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb — Influential figure in manga, but the medium is too vast and arguably a fraction of entertainment sales to warrant a blurb from any one figure. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 06:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Animanga is indeed very vast ever since 21st century, but Akira Toriyama has influenced a lot of mangakas and artists (incl. One Piece and Naruto mangaka) on this field of entertainment, not to mention the burgeoning anime fandom in late 1990s and early 2000s following Japanese economic recession in the early 1990s. I can't understate how popular anime is across the world, since their mainstreaming in 2010s alongside K-Pop. MarioJump83 (talk) 06:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb - although I’m not personally a fan, the man’s impact on anime/manga, now a huge media item, is undeniable. Oppose on quality for now, though - it’s a GA, so mostly good, but there’s some missing citations. The Kip 06:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, but leaning oppose I often find this page to be very informative regarding recent deaths and other news. I mean no disrespect to the late Akira Toriyama, who did much to advance his field and who passed away somewhat prematurely. My condolences to his family, friends and fans. However, the whole anime/manga industry is pretty niche (or maybe I'm just getting old). Although there may be significant overlap between manga fans and Wikipedia editors, the general public doesn't pay much attention to it. Given the high standards which this forum has established for itself for blurb-worthy content, touting Mandela-Thatcher rules and excluding many notable and significant individuals, personally, I find the near universal support for a blurb here for the creator of Dragon Ball to be, well, among the most humorous things I've seen on the internet today.
- Please don't take this comment as rude. I appreciate the work that many of you do. Keep up the good work!Ryan Reeder (talk) 07:14, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Animanga is more closer to a pop cultural juggernaut today than it was in prior decades, though in some parts of the world I could see why it is a niche. MarioJump83 (talk) 07:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Sweden's accession to NATO
Blurb: Sweden joins NATO as its 32nd member. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Sweden joins NATO as its 32nd member.
News source(s): US Department of State, Politico, Reuters
Credits:
- Nominated by Twistedaxe (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Ergo Sum (talk · give credit)
Sweden is set to join today formally. Was on hold last time, it's about time we nominate this now. TwistedAxe [contact] 14:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support although blurb can be improved
and the article will likely be moved to Sweden in NATO like for Finland in NATO.(edit: I somehow hallucinated that move) Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)- Agreed. Could someone maybe insert a fitting image as well? TwistedAxe [contact] 14:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done (blurb and image), although if someone has an image of the accession ceremony it would be even better than the map! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- The accession ceremony is set to be held on the 11th of March, although the treaty is set to come into force today. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:03, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- We can go with this image, and maybe update it when the accession ceremony happens if it's still on the main page by then (likely). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- The accession ceremony is set to be held on the 11th of March, although the treaty is set to come into force today. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:03, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done (blurb and image), although if someone has an image of the accession ceremony it would be even better than the map! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. Could someone maybe insert a fitting image as well? TwistedAxe [contact] 14:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment one section is tagged as source less, and I spot a couple CNs floating around. Masem (t) 14:58, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Just wait until it is really, really, really set and fixed. Please! We can't risk anything now. Everyone on Swedish media is going: "For the love of..., don't jinx anything now." Cart (talk) 15:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- All 31 member states have deposited their instruments of ratification
and the US Department of State have confirmed that the treaty is in force as of today. There are no more "risks"Going to note that the PM has yet to deposit the instrument at 4PM UTC, in less than an hour. Still fitting to post it though considering everything will be done today and formal accession will conclude by the end of the day.TwistedAxe [contact] 15:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- All 31 member states have deposited their instruments of ratification
- If you had followed this as closely and for as long as we Swedes have, you wouldn't mind waiting that hour. We have become very jaded with all the things that have popped up along the process. Cart (talk) 15:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have followed this as long as the Swedes have considering I am Swedish ;) TwistedAxe [contact] 15:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, not so used to bumping into fellow Swedes here at ITN. More used to explaining things to Americans. ;-) Cart (talk) 15:19, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:30, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, not so used to bumping into fellow Swedes here at ITN. More used to explaining things to Americans. ;-) Cart (talk) 15:19, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have followed this as long as the Swedes have considering I am Swedish ;) TwistedAxe [contact] 15:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- If you had followed this as closely and for as long as we Swedes have, you wouldn't mind waiting that hour. We have become very jaded with all the things that have popped up along the process. Cart (talk) 15:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Full membership has been announced, and the article looks good to go.
Comment According to the table on the article, full membership hasn't taken effect yet. I would think it would be best to wait until full membership takes effect.Gödel2200 (talk) 15:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Totally agree, we can polish up the article and make everything ready in the meantime. Cart (talk) 15:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Seems very notable. - Petjayso (talk) 15:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support we had brought it up earlier that we would like to nominate it once they had officially joined. It is very notable given the ongoing tensions between russia and nato. Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- I do agree however that we should clean up the article a bit if needed. Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wait just a liiiiittle bit longer, we're almost at the point of full membership, but it's not yet there. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 16:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Done!!!! Go, go, go! Cart (talk) 16:28, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I've added 2 additional sources. It's official now. TwistedAxe [contact] 16:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Lazy jannies ruining another good nom by sleeping all day instead of posting, sad 2600:100F:B1B9:3F82:141C:495C:DB68:F117 (talk) 17:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Let's get this up ASAP Moncoposig (talk) 17:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Either blurb is OK. Nsk92 (talk) 17:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Needs work The lead of the nominated article has not been updated – its most recent date is July 2022. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:25, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- this is importent news. i agree. 2600:1700:8090:4440:B4B9:F680:424F:F9 (talk) 17:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on significance, with advice that we move quickly to get this up while it's timely. Sdkb talk 17:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support great news. Article looks good and it’s ready to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. Appears uncontroversial. Per MOS, I've spelled out the number, omitted the wikilink to Sweden, and used the term "member state" that seems to be more commonly used by our articles than "member". The map still needs protection on Commons before it can be posted. Sandstein 19:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Sandstein, I'm not a fan of the alterations you made to the blurb when you posted.
thirty-second member state of NATO
linking to Sweden–NATO relations is very much an MOS:EGG. Sdkb talk 06:13, 8 March 2024 (UTC)- It's not more egg-y than the proposed blurbs, I think. I don't really see a good way to use the article title "Sweden–NATO relations" in the blurb. Sandstein 07:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Sandstein, I'm not a fan of the alterations you made to the blurb when you posted.
- Post-posting support Woohoo! Do I get an IKEA discount now? --RockstoneSend me a message! 02:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: John Kumah
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Citinewsroom, Reuters
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Heatrave (talk) 14:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is well-sourced and looks good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moncoposig (talk • contribs) 16:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb Person is not really a household name, support RD article looks good enough for RD though. Editor 5426387 (talk) 19:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- He was deputy finance minister and a big face of the ruling party. Heatrave (talk) 02:13, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support RD The article is a little sparse in terms of prose, but I think it's of sufficient quality to post. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
March 6
March 6, 2024
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(Posted) RD: Pigcasso
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Clarín
Credits:
- Nominated by Gobonobo (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Nonexyst (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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South African painting pig. Death announced on 6 March. gobonobo + c 14:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support, article looks very well rounded, hope she doesn't hog the main page. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:50, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- No reference for death. Secretlondon (talk) 14:50, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Clarin news source given above has been used? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:56, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Seems very notable. - Petjayso (talk) 15:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks well-sourced and ready to go. Moncoposig (talk) 16:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb We need a blurb for Picasso he is one of the most famous painters 2600:100F:B1BE:B43F:C83B:9B86:7653:A0F9 (talk) 17:03, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's Pigcasso. The human version was already dead. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- He just died? Wow. I didn't know that. You are telling me now for the first time. He led an amazing life. What else can you say. I am sad to hear that. 2600:100F:B1B7:D4D9:8119:A4F1:7CD7:8BB (talk) 17:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, died of chronic rheumatoid arthritis, was struggling for months already. A sad end to a pretty unique and impactful life. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- He just died? Wow. I didn't know that. You are telling me now for the first time. He led an amazing life. What else can you say. I am sad to hear that. 2600:100F:B1B7:D4D9:8119:A4F1:7CD7:8BB (talk) 17:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's Pigcasso. The human version was already dead. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support RD, but can't support blurb (neutral), as cool as this pig is she sadly doesn't rise to the level of notability of her human alter ego. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe not a cubic pig, but possibly a leader in Pokism? Pigging wonderful. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Or even Concrete art. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:40, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Maybe not a cubic pig, but possibly a leader in Pokism? Pigging wonderful. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Muboshgu (talk) 18:04, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Mohammed Al-Sharekh
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Al Sharq
Credits:
- Nominated by Jmanlucas (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Burhan1234 (talk · give credit), Mishary94 (talk · give credit) and Dominus Moravian (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Kuwaiti business magnate, founder of Sakhr Software Company. Jmanlucas (talk) 08:44, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Article seems well-sourced. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 12:22, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Seems like a noteworthy person and a noteworthy death at that! - Petjayso (talk) 14:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- "Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post" Secretlondon (talk) 14:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Although the article has many short sections, the sourcing and quality is sufficient to post. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:08, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Pakistan floods
Blurb: At least 35 people have been killed and 50 injured in floods in Pakistan. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, VOA, Al Arabiya, Crisis 24,
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 03:53, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Mild Support not sure if this is the most notable but I could see it getting nominated. Ion.want.uu (talk) 05:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - While we don't have a specific death tally for natural disasters like this (or at least, none that I'm aware of), news like these very rarely get posted. Plus, the article could use a bit of work. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 08:08, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:NEWSEVENT. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality The article claims these are ongoing floods, but says: "At least 40 people were killed", not have been killed. Also, besides from making an unreferenced claim that the floods began on 29 February, the article does not mention any other dates, which means the claim that the floods are ongoing needs to be sourced. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality per above; article also feels rather barebones, consisting of a series of one or two-sentence statements. The Kip 05:51, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
March 5
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RD: Dagmar Loe
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NRK
Credits:
- Created and nominated by Oceanh (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Norwegian journalist. Turned 101 in 2024. Oceanh (talk) 19:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Although short, the article is sufficiently well-sourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Shafiqah Hudson
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Asilvering (talk · give credit), Innisfree987 (talk · give credit) and ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Death in February but news coverage dates to March 5. Innisfree987 (talk) 09:52, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Seems not noteworthy enough - Petjayso (talk) 14:08, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Anything living with a Wikipedia article is notable enough for RD. MyriadSims (talk) 14:30, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support The previous oppose vote should be discarded. I'm currently leaning towards support but the article could use a little expansion. Jmanlucas (talk) 17:41, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Linda Balgord
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://playbill.com/article/broadway-cats-phantom-of-the-opera-star-linda-balgord-dies-at-64
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American Broadway actress and singer. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 07:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Solihin G. P.
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Nominated by Juxlos (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Juxlos (talk) 06:33, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support The article seems well-sourced and of sufficiently good quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support The last living general to fought in the Indonesian National Revolution. RIP. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks well-sourced and ready to go. Moncoposig (talk) 13:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article seems good to go Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 22:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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(Posted) State of emergency in Haiti
Blurb: Haiti declares a state of emergency after armed gangs storm major prisons, demand Prime Minister's resignation (Post)
Alternative blurb: Haiti declares a state of emergency after gangs storm two prisons and demand the resignation of Prime Minister Ariel Henry.
News source(s): Washington Post, BBC
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Presidentofyes12 (talk · give credit)
Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb on notability as this is arguably the worst the crisis has been since the President was assassinated; however, oppose on quality as the article hasn't been updated seemingly since late December. The Kip 22:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've written a little bit about the new state of emergency on the originally nominated article - see Gang war in Haiti#2024 prison storming. If another article is used, please feel free to transfer what I've written over under WP:CWW!
- Staraction (talk | contribs) 22:36, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Oppose on quality due to there being only two paragraphs about the event in the article. I'm not sure on notability, but will reassess when more details are added to the article.Support on notability Article has been significantly expanded, and this seems to be notable enough. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)- Support, highly notable security crisis with national and international implications. Marquisate (talk) 01:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support, as this is a major escalation in the already dire situation of the conflict AG AGR280 (talk) 03:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, although I think the prison storming should be its separate article (more than 4700 escapees, by the way). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 04:10, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Did try to create separate article - however I removed references to it since it has less detail than the Gang war in Haiti article at this point. Ought I add it back? 2024 gang violence in Haiti Staraction (talk | contribs) 04:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Still good to have it on hand (likely as an altblurb) if it gets expanded in time. Also you could add {{main}} from Gang war in Haiti#2024 prison storming to the new article! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 04:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Did try to create separate article - however I removed references to it since it has less detail than the Gang war in Haiti article at this point. Ought I add it back? 2024 gang violence in Haiti Staraction (talk | contribs) 04:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb. Notable enough and article looks ready to go, if the section covering the current riots is a bit short. Moncoposig (talk) 04:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support as this has been one of the worst events in human history Ion.want.uu (talk) 04:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support here- though I'll be requesting that the current article about the events is changed to fit the fact that much more than a jailbreak has happened, it's still a very notable event - presidentofyes, the super aussa man 11:33, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support although 2024 Haitian jailbreak should probably be the target article, rather than Gang war in Haiti#2024 prison storming. That article is just about good enough to be on the front page, and could incorporate some of the extra info listed on Gang war in Haiti#2024 prison storming. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb - per all above Abo Yemen✉ 11:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Needs work The lead of the nominated article says nothing about the recent developments. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've added some to the lead of the nominated article - let me know if I'm missing anything. Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 00:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't the blurb link to the specific jailbreak rather than the article on the overall conflict? It has a dedicated article at 2024 Haitian jailbreak. Tube·of·Light 02:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- When originally posted, that dedicated article was in bad shape - however it has been significantly improved since, and I think this is a good idea now Staraction (talk | contribs) 07:08, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't the blurb link to the specific jailbreak rather than the article on the overall conflict? It has a dedicated article at 2024 Haitian jailbreak. Tube·of·Light 02:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
France adopts abortion rights in constitution
Blurb: France becomes the first country to enshrine abortion rights in their constitution. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
While a larger celebration is due this Friday on Int'l Women's Rights Day, the passage completes the process today. Holding off to Friday is not unreasonable. Masem (t) 18:36, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality This is notable enough as France is the first
evermodern country to place abortion rights in their constitution. But the Abortion in France article is nowhere near ready. Besides for massive sourcing issues, the article doesn't actually mention the enshrinement yet. I will also note that the prevalance section is outdated, only giving dates up until 2020. Gödel2200 (talk) 19:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)- Trying to nominate this via mobile, I was hoping to find a better article on it. Willing to find a better target here. — Masem (t) 19:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Alternative could be Constitution of France. Brandmeistertalk 19:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Trying to nominate this via mobile, I was hoping to find a better article on it. Willing to find a better target here. — Masem (t) 19:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not that familiar with how legislation works in France, but was this an actual bill that was being voted on, or was the vote explicitly for the change in the constitution? If it was the former, we could just make an article for that bill, which could then be the target. If the latter, as per Brandmeister, we could target the Constitution of France article. While that article does need a bit of work (and an update about the enshrinement), it is of far better quality than the Abortion in France article. Gödel2200 (talk) 19:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- What about Constitutional amendments under the French Fifth Republic? Seems of better quality than Constitution of France, and is also more direct. There would have to be some edits to the article, however - there's currently no mention of the new abortion rights clause in the article. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've added some bare-bones mention of the new amendment in Constitutional amendments under the French Fifth Republic - however they definitely need more work to be included in ITN. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- What about Constitutional amendments under the French Fifth Republic? Seems of better quality than Constitution of France, and is also more direct. There would have to be some edits to the article, however - there's currently no mention of the new abortion rights clause in the article. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Sources indicate that France isn't actually the first country to do so (the first was former Yugoslavia with its 1974 constitution), but rather the first modern country or something like that. Brandmeistertalk 19:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say that an amendment from the same decade as Roe v Wade is not part of modern history. If Yugoslavia did have a constitutional right to abortion, then "first post-Iron Curtain country" is not really a massive claim. Still support as unusual, even if not first. Unknown Temptation (talk) 20:57, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- FYI, Yugoslavia was not beyond the Iron Curtain (except for a brief 2-year period from 1946 to 1948). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 04:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- According to AP [2]https://apnews.com/article/france-abortion-right-constitution-parliament-vote-versailles-d6ce4fb3a6a7288033f58235b65f570e, it looks like the former Yugoslavian constitution guaranteed the right to "decide on having children", not explicitly an abortion - however the Yugoslavian constitution still was interpreted to protect abortions. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:38, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Guardian changed the article (correction): «The headline of this article was amended on 4 March 2024 to remove an incorrect reference that France is the first country in the world to enshrine abortion as a constitutional right.» Proeksad (talk) 17:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe they've seen our comments here... Brandmeistertalk 18:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say that an amendment from the same decade as Roe v Wade is not part of modern history. If Yugoslavia did have a constitutional right to abortion, then "first post-Iron Curtain country" is not really a massive claim. Still support as unusual, even if not first. Unknown Temptation (talk) 20:57, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality per above. The Yugoslav constitution is ambiguous enough that I think France's decision is notable. The Kip 21:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability. As Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, France is only the first currently existing country to have it, but still notable. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 04:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support as per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 04:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support as per above PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose ...until we have an article on this actual event. Having it buried in as a minor part of another article isn't good enough. HiLo48 (talk) 05:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- ITN does not require a separate article for any event, just that there is a significant update to an existing article (which is lacking presently). — Masem (t) 13:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - a blurb is proposed, but there is no specific article about this event, actually there isn't even a named paragraph in the suggested article. 51.154.145.205 (talk) 07:44, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality the article suggested is Abortion in France, which has multiple orange tags and doesn't have a specific section on this event. If we get an article on this event (or substantial content about it in another article that also doesn't have multiple orange tags), and that meets WP:ITNQUALITY, then it and only then would it be worth considering whether or not to post this. I'm confused as to how anyone can just vote support when there isn't even an article for this. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The section "21st century liberalization" in Abortion in France covers this (going back to Dobbs in 2022 when the bill to change the constitution was introduced, for two paragraphs, but it definitely could be expanded). Masem (t) 13:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- It has 2 short paragraphs totalling 908 characters about it (excluding the mention of Yugoslavia that isn't sourced)- that's not enough. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The section "21st century liberalization" in Abortion in France covers this (going back to Dobbs in 2022 when the bill to change the constitution was introduced, for two paragraphs, but it definitely could be expanded). Masem (t) 13:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Both on quality and notability. I don't really see how a domestic constitutional amendment is notable enough for ITN. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is similar to how we've posted first countries in specific regions to support gay marriage. It's the first country to specifically call out abortion rights as protected, which is a milestone for women's rights. If it was the second or third to do so, yes, it wouldn't be so significant. Masem (t) 13:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah but I feel it draws on quite an arbitrary metric which is 'codified in the constitution'. Almost nothing has changed in actual French abortion law. We shouldn't automatically post "first to enact law" countries unless it has an excessive amount of notability. Even if you think this is a milestone for women's rights, I still don't see the justification for posting this. Barely any news coverage outside of domestic French politics, as well as the article only being two sentences. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. There is massive variation in what a constitution is around the world. In my country, Australia, abortion is fully legal everywhere, but I don't believe it's the kind of thing that could ever go in the country's constitution. It's just not what our constitution is for. I'm sure similar situations exist elsewhere. So abortion in Australia is already as legal as it can be, but that didn't appear in ITN. HiLo48 (talk) 20:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah but I feel it draws on quite an arbitrary metric which is 'codified in the constitution'. Almost nothing has changed in actual French abortion law. We shouldn't automatically post "first to enact law" countries unless it has an excessive amount of notability. Even if you think this is a milestone for women's rights, I still don't see the justification for posting this. Barely any news coverage outside of domestic French politics, as well as the article only being two sentences. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is similar to how we've posted first countries in specific regions to support gay marriage. It's the first country to specifically call out abortion rights as protected, which is a milestone for women's rights. If it was the second or third to do so, yes, it wouldn't be so significant. Masem (t) 13:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Abortion was already legal and widely available in France. Quite how that is codified (law vs constitution) is a technical detail. This is a largely symbolic step that has more to do with domestic political posturing than any real change in access to abortion. The nominated article is a mess, the update is minimal, and the 'first' being claimed here is both questionable and unimpressive. Modest Genius talk 16:13, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Couldn't have said it bettter myself PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, per Modest Genius. Cambalachero (talk) 16:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Modest Genius. Nothing substantive has changed and ITN is not in the business of promoting political theatre. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - would we oppose blurbing a ratified amendment to the US Constitution? Almost certainly not. Although this may not actually affect things in France, it's still notable and worthy of a blurb. --RockstoneSend me a message! 00:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Lean support being the first amendment to the French constitution in over 15 years: a notable gap given how often it used to be amended before then (6 times in 5 years at one point!). — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 00:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose because nothing actually changed. Abortion was already legal in France and has been since 1975. Distinction without a difference here. nableezy - 01:00, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support For fairly obvious reasons. France is the beacon of liberty for humanity once again Kasperquickly (talk) 18:42, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose what changes is that any attempts to de-constitutionalize (is that even a word) abortion will be harder than by simply amending statutes. So, something changed, but is not readily apparent, more so if you have a dick. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:49, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Supreme Court rules Trump must appear on Colorado's ballot
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: The Supreme Court of the United States rules that Donald Trump must appear on Colorado ballots in the 2024 United States presidential election, unanimously reversing a ruling by the Colorado Supreme Court. (Post)
Alternative blurb: The Supreme Court of the United States rules that Donald Trump must appear on Colorado ballots in the 2024 United States presidential election.
News source(s): New York Times the Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by IntoThinAir (talk · give credit)
- Oppose. When the election happens, we'll post the winner as a blurb. There's no need for updates on who even appears on the ballot. We never post the winners of the party nomination primaries, for example. Modest Genius talk 16:40, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think this rather makes the case to have the 2024 U.S. presidential election campaign as ongoing. The twists and turns are piling up. BD2412 T 16:46, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not intrinsically opposed to putting major election campaigns in ongoing, but I think this proposal is premature. We should only put the US election there at the earliest when both parties have definitively chosen their candidates; likewise the UK one only when parliament is dissolved. Otherwise we'll be overflowing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose largely per Modest Genius. Supreme Court decisions from any country are rarely posted and this does not fundamentally alter any constructional law. Beyond which this is just part of the evolving story of the 2024 presidential election. I am ambivalent on whether or not to add the election to ongoing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per "not every US election-related thing is notable", also oppose having an Ongoing item as many countries have election campaigns and having only this one featured would be pretty blatant US bias. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:06, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose because, effectively, nothing changed. Trump was and remains on the ballot. I would have supported it if he was removed. Johndavies837 (talk) 17:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - A purely administrative decision affecting one candidate in one state's poll for the presidency. We absolutely should not cover such minutiae at ITN. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:40, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. I think Trump being disqualified would have been ITN-worthy, but this ruling was expected. Jessintime (talk) 17:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
March 3
March 3, 2024
(Sunday)
Armed conflicts and attacks
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RD: Juli Lynne Charlot
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose There's an orange tag indicating multiple issues. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Eleanor Collins
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:
- Nominated by MonarchOfTerror (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Deathisallaroundus (talk · give credit), Jmanlucas (talk · give credit) and Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Canadian jazz singer, television host and civic leader. Known as "Canada's first lady of jazz". Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 10:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - article is over-cited, if anything (though I assume there's nothing bad about that?) ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 14:01, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good to go. Moncoposig (talk) 14:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 02:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Chris Mortensen
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:2DDA:5B3F:E171:D64F (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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240F:7A:6253:1:2DDA:5B3F:E171:D64F (talk) 04:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now I think the article is giving undue weight to Deflategate and his undisclosed ad tweet in relation to the rest of his biography. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Ed Ott
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
– Muboshgu (talk) 00:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Article is well-sourced, untagged and of acceptable length. Jusdafax (talk) 00:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - well cited ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 02:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: U. L. Washington
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:
- Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
– Muboshgu (talk) 18:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It's close but the three cn tags should be fixed. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support got the three CNs. The rest looks good. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - looks good now ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Talk:U. L. Washington § Autograph is outstanding.—Bagumba (talk) 06:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's a real splitting hairs discussion that is not material to the decision on quality here. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- There was originally a Cn tag there on recently added material before the discussion was started.[5] I'm not saying it's a showstopper or not. —Bagumba (talk) 12:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- You say that, but here you are stopping the show. By pointing out an unsettled discussion started by...YOU...after the CN was addressed. Regarding a matter of remarkably low significance. GreatCaesarsGhost 21:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- There was originally a Cn tag there on recently added material before the discussion was started.[5] I'm not saying it's a showstopper or not. —Bagumba (talk) 12:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's a real splitting hairs discussion that is not material to the decision on quality here. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support The article is of good enough quality now. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:50, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 22:49, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Pakistan New PM
Blurb: Following the general election, Shehbaz Sharif is appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Following the general election, Shahbaz Sharif is appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan amid allegations of election rigging.
Alternative blurb II: Following the general election, Shahbaz Sharif is appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan with the support of PML-N allies, amid allegations of election rigging.
Alternative blurb III: Following the general election marred by rigging allegations, Shahbaz Sharif is appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan despite the PTI-backed independent candidates winning majority seats.
Alternative blurb IV: Following the general election, Shahbaz Sharif is appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan despite the PTI-backed independent candidates winning majority seats.
Alternative blurb V: Following the general election, Shehbaz Sharif is appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan although the PTI-backed independent candidates winning a plurality of seats.
Alternative blurb VI: Following the general election, Shehbaz Sharif is appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan, forming a coalition government between the PML-N and the PPP.
News source(s): Reuters, Al Jazeera, Express Tribube
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Ainty Painty (talk) 08:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb, OR altblurb IV The election has faced allegations of rigging, supported by numerous reputable sources [can be found on election page]. These allegations have prompted the creation of a standalone WP page dedicated to documenting the irregularities at Allegations of rigging in the 2024 Pakistani general election. so It's crucial that WP highlight these concerns about the election integrity. Altblurb can be re-worded though. --Saqib (talk) 09:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Is it necessary? There has been elections before with allegations of rigging but that was not featured in the alt blurb. Like USA 2020 or Russian interference in the UK 2019 election. Haris920 (talk) 10:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it is. Reports from both local and international media have highlighted significant allegations of rigging, to the extent that there's now a standalone WP article dedicated to documenting it. Here's the gist: PTI declined to form a government, despite coalition offers from PPP. --Saqib (talk) 11:07, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Rigging has been happening for years in Pakistan. The rigging in this election makes no major difference. Every election gets rigged and manipulated. Did Zad really win in 2008? Nawaz 2013? PTI is only complaining as this is the first time they are on the wrong side of the rigging. Haris920 (talk) 16:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- While it's true that past elections hav been marred by rigging but I would say we shouldn't dwell on history and focus on this election because each and every election has its own unique circumstances & this one is no exception. For me, the pre-poll rigging was particularly unique or rather interesting this time around. one of the largest political parties barred from contesting, and its leader jailed and despite this, the party or its candidates emerged with the most seats in the parliament yet still was not unable to form a government. Sounds 1970 Pakistani general election to me. My comment might imply a biased agenda, which is not my intention as I'm neither a voter nor a supporter of PTI. However, it's important to acknowledge the extensive and ample coverage backing up the claims of rigging in this election by independent reliable sources, despite the prevalent censorship in Pakistan. Therefore, it's equally important for us to reflect this accurately. --Saqib (talk) 20:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Rigging has been happening for years in Pakistan. The rigging in this election makes no major difference. Every election gets rigged and manipulated. Did Zad really win in 2008? Nawaz 2013? PTI is only complaining as this is the first time they are on the wrong side of the rigging. Haris920 (talk) 16:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it is. Reports from both local and international media have highlighted significant allegations of rigging, to the extent that there's now a standalone WP article dedicated to documenting it. Here's the gist: PTI declined to form a government, despite coalition offers from PPP. --Saqib (talk) 11:07, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note By the way for those who don't know this ITN was proposed right after election last month> Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/February_2024#(READY)_2024_Pakistani_elections. --Saqib (talk) 11:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support original blurb Unless elections are truly undemocratic, we don't include anything about it in blurbs, just name the successor, to prevent any politicising/any appearance of political POV. (I.e. he's in charge now, it would be wrong to use wikivoice to suggest anything at all about the appointment, not least that it might be illegitimate.) Kingsif (talk) 11:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's a coalition government though. and original blur should reflect that--Saqib (talk) 11:29, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb as it captures the essence of the event in a clear way. The rigging is certainly sigificant, given the existing political crisis, there is no reason not to mention it. Article should be good to go. Pksois23 (talk) 13:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment We absolutely should not include the allegations of rigging in the blurb as those are exactly what's being said, allegations, not confirmation. Its a territory that needs the context of a full article to get into, not something that is appropriate for a blurb. --Masem (t) 15:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Proposed and Support Alt4. This acknowledges the PTI aspect of the election, but does not include the "rigging" concerns, which, like with elections that we consider to not be "free and fair", this information will be in the article and we can let the readers come to this conclusion organically. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- It does have the word "despite" which, in a contextless blurb, can read as Wikipedia having a view of the outcome. Kingsif (talk) 18:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support original blurb: As it is most neutral and concise. Rigging allegations have been part of almost all Pakistani elections in the past. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support ALT4 Despite the rigging allegations being an important part of the news, we’ve posted plenty of non-free/fair elections without such wording, and now’s not the time to change that. PTI note is good to include though, seeing as Sharif’s party is not the largest party in parliament. The Kip 19:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose mentioning rigging as these are only allegations for now, and that's not a wording we usually go with. Oppose the wording of alt4 (which is factually wrong, they did not win a majority) and alt5, but would support mentioning that this is a coalition government (thus why "winning a plurality" doesn't necessarily matter), ie support alt6. If that's not possible, support original blurb. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt6, oppose on quality This seems to me to be the most factually accurate of the blurbs, and we don't need to mention allegations (not confirmation) of electoral fraud. That being said, the article currently has a mostly unsourced awards section, making it not ready to go. It might be good to mention the allegations of fraud in conjunction with protests due to the allegations. So far, I don't think they are notable enough, as there is only a medium-sized section about them. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gödel2200: Thanks for the heads up. Check out Allegations_of_rigging_in_the_2024_Pakistani_general_election#Protests --Saqib (talk) 22:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the expansion. However, I think we should only mention the protests if it is clear that they have had significant impacts (which the article currently doesn't indicate), and ideally if they get their own article. Gödel2200 (talk) 22:49, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Gödel2200: Thanks for the heads up. Check out Allegations_of_rigging_in_the_2024_Pakistani_general_election#Protests --Saqib (talk) 22:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- oppose alts III–V as grammatically incorrect (‘winning majority seats’, ‘although…winning’); further oppose the inclusion of any definitive claim that the PTI won a majority, including alt IV as presently unsourced (although I personally think the claim is plausible); and support some mention of vote-rigging allegations and/or the PTI’s winning a plurality of seats. Docentation (talk) 20:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 22:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Stephen, the blurb needs correction as "PML-N President Shehbaz Sharif, who is the joint candidate of the newly-formed eight-party alliance" — Dawn | Mfarazbaig (talk) 07:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephen: Mind breaking this down for me. --Saqib (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- What are you on about? Stephen 10:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I meant you removed the mention of coalition. --Saqib (talk) 11:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- What are you on about? Stephen 10:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephen: Mind breaking this down for me. --Saqib (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
March 2
March 2, 2024
(Saturday)
Armed conflicts and attacks
Politics and elections
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RD: Jim Beard
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:151D:C1A1:E591:E51F (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
240F:7A:6253:1:151D:C1A1:E591:E51F (talk) 09:23, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- This wikibio has 600+ words of prose, but the first footnote is at the end of the final sentence on the subject's death????? Discography after the prose is also unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 13:20, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose correctly orange tagged as needing lots more sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
(Ready) RD: Tim Ecclestone
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NHL.com; The Atlanta Journal-Constitution; MLive Media Group
Credits:
- Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Canadian professional ice hockey left winger and coach. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 07:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN after my edits. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:46, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Looks to be of sufficient quality. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:08, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support This article has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:27, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Janice Burgess
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times, USA Today
Credits:
- Nominated by Mr. Lechkar (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nickelodeon executive notable for creating The Backyardigans, death announced on March 5th. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 14:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Looks good enough. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support This article has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Schwede66 02:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Jaclyn Jose
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Philstar, Manila Bulletin, GMA News
Credits:
- Nominated by Vida0007 (talk · give credit)
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Cannes Best Actress awardee in 2016 for Ma' Rosa, but better known in the Philippines for her roles in the TV series Mula sa Puso (1997–1999) and Mundo Mo'y Akin (2013). Died on 2 March, but her death was only reported on 3 March. Article looks to have been significantly improved compared to its state a few days ago, although some {cn} tags remain and some sections need to have additional citations. Vida0007 (talk) 18:02, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose There's an orange tag, a CN tag and the filmography and awards section need citations. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Brit Awards 2024
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Blurb: Brit Awards 2024 concludes with Raye winning a record six Brit Awards in 2024, including artist of the year and Album of the Year (Post)
News source(s): Brit Awards Official website
Credits:
- Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
- Oppose Article doesn't have enough prose on the ceremony itself, and anyways, I'm not sure if these awards are at the standard of the Grammys (currently the only music awards show listed at WP:ITNR). The Kip 22:06, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @The Kip a few days ago, Oppenheimer was featured in ITN as it won the British Academy Awards so i don't think the Grammy standards should apply here. If that's the case, then only news EGOT will apply. Heatrave (talk) 08:39, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - I believe the 2024 Brit Awards concluded two days ago [6]https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68458923 (BBC article updated two days ago), and the Wikipedia article itself states the awards were 2 March 2024 Staraction (talk | contribs) 22:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've moved it to the correct date. Black Kite (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I believe this has been posted before, but this article is in no shape to appear on the main page, as apart from the multiple lack of citations, there is actually no prose about the ceremony itself, which is probably best as it was pretty much universally panned for being generally terrible. Black Kite (talk) 22:18, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose As per above, the article has no prose about the event, and has various sourcing issues. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Søren Pape Poulsen
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters Berlingske Copenhagen post
Credits:
- Nominated by MonarchOfTerror (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Skjoldbro (talk · give credit), MAINEiac4434 (talk · give credit) and 188.176.174.30 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Danish politician. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is of decent quality, but it would be ideal to fix the one cn the article does have. Gödel2200 (talk) 21:04, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Weird way for such a notable politician to go. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 00:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Almost another Hasan Bitmez deal. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Sure, some might doubt he succeeded the elusive Johannes Stensgaard in '09, but I don't. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Happy to report that, while I should've been working, I dug through the Wayback Machine and found a page from the Danish government listing past mayors of Viborg. The page has since been broken by a redesign, but lo and behold, Mr. Stensgaard is listed just before Mr. Pape Poulsen. I've added the reference. Pinging User:InedibleHulk, User:Gödel2200. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 21:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's some fine confirmation, thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:13, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 22:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Eugene Wijeysingha
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/former-raffles-institution-headmaster-eugene-wijeysingha-dies-at-90
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Robertsky (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
– robertsky (talk) 09:13, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Support The article is sufficiently well-sourced, but it is short. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - short, but sourced and probably good enough Pksois23 (talk) 13:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 01:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: John Okafor
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Pulse, Punch
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Gobonobo (talk · give credit)
- Updated by ToadetteEdit (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Popular Nollywood actor. There are still a couple of passages marked as needing citations. gobonobo + c 22:20, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - poorly written and poorly cited article Pksois23 (talk) 07:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Looks like CN tags are addressed and is now very-well sourced Jmanlucas (talk) 02:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 22:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Sinking of the Rubymar
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Blurb: During the Red Sea crisis, the ship MV Rubymar becomes the first ship to be sunk by Houthi militants, leading to an ongoing environmental disaster (Post)
Alternative blurb: Oil leaking from the sinking MV Rubymar causes an environmental disaster in the Red Sea.
News source(s): [7] [8]
Credits:
- Nominated by Abo Yemen (talk · give credit)
- Created by Fritzmann2002 (talk · give credit)
- Oppose as this is covered by the Red Sea crisis item in ongoing. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose covered by ongoing. The Kip 15:15, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. The military bit is covered by ongoing as mentioned by Goedel2200 and The Kip, true, however, I feel this is newsworthy as an environmental situation. I boldly therefore propose the altblurb for everyone's consideration. --Ouro (blah blah) 15:28, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Besides from the fact that the article is a stub, this environmental disaster is actually also covered by ongoing (it is listed in the same paragraph in the Red Sea crisis article where the sinking of the ship is listed). I am also concerned that the altblurb misrepresents where the word "environmental disaster" is used by RS's. As far as I can tell, the only RS's listed that use "environmental disaster" in the article for the environmental impact of the Red Sea crisis were from before the sinking (actually, the sinking isn't even mentioned in the environmental impact article). Gödel2200 (talk) 16:19, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Covered by ongoing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:32, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment This article is nommed for DYK, as an alternate if the ITN nom is covered by ongoing. Fritzmann (message me) 15:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- While I think there is an argument for ITN, I do think that the subject would make for an interesting DYK blurb that is also not clickbait or shock value, and that DYK could probably do with more of those. So, if the two parts of MP want to work together, I might suggest focus on the DYK. Kingsif (talk) 16:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose covered by ongoing, Editor 5426387 (talk) 16:14, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose first blurb by ongoing, oppose altblurb on quality of the article linked, would support if it was made an article about that specific sinking's environmental effects rather than the weird one-section general topic article it currently is (which mentions the previous attack on the ship but not the current sinking). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Non-notable ship (likely due to its small size), and event should be covered by ongoing. Because of the non-notability of the ship, I question the need for the article rather than a summary of the sinking in an appropriate location within the ongoing article, but that's not an issue to resolve here. --Masem (t) 19:08, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Good faith nom, but covered by ongoing. I'd support this in DYK per Kingsif. Moncoposig (talk) 20:17, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This is covered by “Ongoing”. However, it could be a good article for “DYK”. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as this is covered by Ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Iris Apfel
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People, NY Times
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:B811:95D6:3052:1B00 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TheJay123 (talk · give credit), Thriley (talk · give credit), Carlstak (talk · give credit) and Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Well sourced. 240F:7A:6253:1:B811:95D6:3052:1B00 (talk) 02:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- 2 CN tags but otherwise well-cited. JM (talk) 05:15, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Tags now resolved. Innisfree987 (talk) 06:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. JM (talk) 06:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is surprisingly well sourced. Artistic woman with an exceptional long career. Cart (talk) 08:27, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is good enough for RD. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 12:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support no issues, solid sourcing, article is long enough. Mooonswimmer 23:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 11:30, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Erling Folkvord
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NRK Aftenposten
Credits:
- Nominated by MonarchOfTerror (talk · give credit)
- Updated by 2001:2020:315:9569:7da5:3faf:fb23:e4d (talk · give credit), Artegia (talk · give credit) and Kelisi (talk · give credit)
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Norwegian politician. Article is a GA. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:59, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support Article is a fully-cited GA, but there’s almost nothing on what he did between the 2009 elections and his death (a period of 15ish years). The Kip 01:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Dhaka building fire
Blurb: At least 46 people have been killed and 40 injured after a fire broke out in a building in Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh. (Post)
Alternative blurb: In Dhaka, Bangladesh, a fire at a building kills at least 46 people.
Alternative blurb II: A fire at a building in Dhaka, Bangladesh, kills at least 46 people.
News source(s): NY Times, Reuters, The Guardian, BBC, VOA
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
- Created by Harrz (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 04:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality as the article is poorly-developed at the moment. Weak support on notability, though I could be convinced the other way. The Kip 04:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality too short, empty section. JM (talk) 05:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Conditional Support* Needs some work but this is something that definitely should have made the "In the News." X (talk) 08:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:NEWSEVENT. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as the article does not indicate this event will have a lasting impact. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality too short and lacks detail. Although support on notability once that is fixed. Pksois23 (talk) 13:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality, not a lot of detail about the fire and its a short article. Support on notability once issues are resolved. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 16:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality– the article isn't ready at all at this moment, atleast for news blurb. Support on notability because this kind of incidents (also very less severe if it happens in the US) have been included in the past. Zeeshan Y Tariq 20:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality. Article needs more work. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Without any way to further expand this article (comparable to how lengthy the Grenfell Tower fire due to its investigation), this is a run-of-the-mill unfortunate disaster that is more appropriate to a list article rather than standalone. --Masem (t) 19:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment/Support although the article is short and somewhat lacks detail I think it is well sourced and could probably barely pass WP:ITNQUALITY. I know this is kind of an insignificant issue but ITN has been sort of quiet these days. Pksois23 (talk) 13:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support It looks like the article’s quality is good enough now & this is notable enough to blurb. @JM2023, Xkalponik, Unknown-Tree, Zeeshan Y Tariq, Rsrikanth05, and Masem: Would you support posting it now? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 02:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Al-Rashid humanitarian aid incident
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Blurb: 112 people are killed and 760 people are injured after Israeli troops open fire on people gathering flour. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, BBC News, The New York Times Aljazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by Lukt64 (talk · give credit)
- Oppose for largely the same reasons I said below: covered by ongoing and non-NPOV blurb.
Once again, not a good sign for NPOV when the nominator uses the heading "massacre" while nominating an article using "incident"(since changed as of 20:19). Also, nominated on the wrong day. JM (talk) 20:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)- Proposed altblurb and added more sources. Still oppose as ongoing. JM (talk) 20:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- My altblurb was removed as "euphemistic" despite virtually matching the article's current opening sentence (
112 Palestinian civilians were killed and at least 760 were injured; the circumstances are disputed
) so I suppose that alternative is out of the question then. JM (talk) 05:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- My altblurb was removed as "euphemistic" despite virtually matching the article's current opening sentence (
- Proposed altblurb and added more sources. Still oppose as ongoing. JM (talk) 20:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose although this is certainly notable on its own, this is covered by ongoing, Editor 5426387 (talk) 21:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose While I do concur with the argument that this is covered by ongoing, it would be good to have some prose about this event added to the Israel-Hamas war page. As far as I can tell, there is only a see also mention to the article in the Gaza famine section. Gödel2200 (talk) 22:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: While "Russian invasion of Ukraine" has its timeline article on the main page, why doesn't the same occur with "Israel–Hamas war"? There is a timeline article: Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by RodRabelo7 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- The timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine was specifically added to ongoing because the main article for the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not getting daily updates, while the timeline was. The Israel-Hamas war articles is getting daily updates, so I think we are fine leaving it as it is. Gödel2200 (talk) 23:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose covered by ongoing. The Kip 00:53, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as covered by Ongoing, but support adding it to the Israel-Hamas war page as per Gödel. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:41, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, but it should be noted that a stampede also occurred While this is covered by “Ongoing” & should be added to the Israel-Hamas war article, this is significant enough to be blurbable. However, the stampede should also be mentioned. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 06:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support with stampede mentioned - Per @Blaylockjam10 PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose covered by ongoing. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:38, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral – I think this can be suitably covered in Israel-Hamas war#Gaza famine, though the article looks really good and its definitely of appropriate significance as a single event. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support per Blaylockjam10. –Jiaminglimjm (talk) 23:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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