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Managing a conflict of interest

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Thanks for your response, albeit it has evidently resulted in questions raised now at Kass Fleisher's Wiki page. While I understand entirely your conflict of interest guidelines, and I realize (as was explained to me when I first contacted the Wikimedia Response Team) that you folks are understaffed, it's difficult for me to chase down links for you, esp when they're already available at Kass's and my personal websites. For instance, you indicate [citation needed] now for Kass's years at ISU. But the About page at her website indicates exactly how long she taught there -- indeed I taught with her (I hope it's not a conflict of interest merely to say as much?) -- and there is a link there to the In Memoriam page at ISU's Dept of English, where a photo of her with her title appears along with numerous others.

And btw: when Kass died, she was to be found nowhere at the dept website. They don't keep evidence of past faculty at ISU except in those cases where faculty are still somehow affiliated with the university. So I wrote to the dept chair spring of last year explaining that they needed an In Memoriam page, and not just for Kass. And they were good enough to put one up, with some assistance from yours truly. The point is that the dept page itself owes something to a conflict of interest. This is b/c ISU is not Princeton, for instance, and does not have Princeton's resources.

Neither do you. So I know you guys are doing your best. But when you include under conflict of interest "family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients or competitors," you might not realize that you thereby all but exhaust the decades' worth of alliances -- professional, personal, literary, institutional -- that Kass and I cultivated simply by virtue of moving from institution to institution, time zone to time zone, and plying our trade as writers and teachers, editors and publishers. Accordingly, your stipulations put the entire onus on you folks to know what that vast network comprises, and it won't be found simply in the pages of mainstream publications, b/c an important aspect of literary community consists of alliances among different coteries. I don't know how you intend to track citations down w/o my input, which of course includes the personal websites that I've assembled for Kass and me. There is a vast amount of verifiable information at those sites which, all told, I would contend speaks to notability. And believe me when I say, I do not have a big head about this. But after this many years on Wikipedia, I'd hate to see my entry and/or Kass's be expunged b/c you, understandably, don't have a good grasp of what I'm relating in this paragraph. You have uncontested Wiki pages for instance for Charles Bernstein, Michael Joyce, Marjorie Perloff, Andrei Codrescu, Steve Tomasula, and Johanna Drucker, all of whom have blurbed either Kass's books or mine or both. Naturally some of these people we count as dear friends. That's the way it works.

Apologies for going on, but I feel I owe it to you to explain myself when I see what I regard as unreasonable expectations at work. Again, I appreciate all your efforts, or I wouldn't have again given a donation to Wikipedia for the third time this year. Rest assured I'm not presuming to "buy" an entry. But I believe it's important for you to recognize the issues you're creating for yourselves, as above.

Sincerely,

Joe Amato Capisce (talk) 18:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Capisce, I am sorry for your loss. Your input is invited at the talk pages, but the COI guidelines discourage editing directly, except for a few very specific circumstances. Have you found the article talk pages? I can see that you've worked in good faith, and tried to build a neutral page, but that is hard for someone who is closely involved. I fixed the citation needed tag, but adjusted the sentence to only give start date (which was easier to source). Some of the tags at the top should probably remain on the pages for the time being, but that does not necessarily mean forever. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 21:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so muçh, Russ, and for your condolences. Means much to me.

Well I can over time try to round up more links -- to reviews of Kass's books, for instance. I'm just a little beleaguered of late b/c I'm trying to recover from major surgery. I must sound like a sad case! -- I'm doing much better at any rate. If I did round up more links, I'd want to be sure to submit them to the right place at Wiki. I assume that would be the Talk pages for each site?

Btw, I went to the Talk page for Kass's site and I see her photo/image file is marked for speedy deletion due to copyright violation. That can't be b/c, as I indicate at the Wikimedia Commons site for the photo:

"Photo taken of the late Kass Fleisher by me, her partner and the executor of her estate, at a Christmas party held at her parents' home in West Chester, PA, in 2004. This photo also appears on the Celebration of Life program reproduced at her website."

There's no copyright violation possible here, as I have sole possession of all of her photographs, memorabilia, papers, book mss, etc, and am in fact in the process of archiving everything for eventual storage at her faculty archive.

Anyway, I really appreciate your help. Let me know if, over time, I should send any additional links for Kass's or my Wiki sites to the respective talk pp.

Best,

Joe Capisce (talk) 22:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

The speedy deletion notice on the talk page is from 2011, and I'm fairly sure that it refers to an older picture. I'm not seeing any concerns about the current pic. Talk pages are a good place to put reviews and other links, and also other requests. I'll have them watch listed, and I suppose some other editors might also. Reviews _might_ fall under WP:COIU, but it's better to try the talk page first. For edit requests, you can also use template:edit request. If you are interested and when you get more time, then you might consider doing some work on some pages that are adjacent to your expertise, but that are far enough away that you don't have a COI. It will give you some understanding, and I think you might rather enjoy it! Russ Woodroofe (talk) 22:42, 27 September 2024 (UTC)