JesseW

Archiving policy

I will remove discussions on here that I feel are done with when I feel like it. I will mark such changes with the following summary:'''archiving''' (see history if you want to put stuff back) If you object, or feel that I've removed stuff I shouldn't, feel free to re-add it from the history. If you then comment on it mentioning that I've removed it, and asking me not to, I won't remove it again. If that kind of stuff gets beyond 32k, I'll move it to archive page(s), each of about 32k in size, and put links to them here. JesseW 09:43, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The actual page

HHGG

You've added a link to the inexistent article about your upcoming website. You shouldn't have done that, because:

1. Do not add references unless something is done.
2. Your site should only be included as an article if it was REALLY important and relevant.
3. You shouldn't make it an external link either, for the above reasons.
4. Wikipedia is NOT a web guide. Don't promote your websites here

Kieff, thanks for being so vigilant, however you are in error about some things:

• The Index is not my website, nor is it created by me.
• It is a very useful tool for fans of HHGttG, and quite relevant to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy page.
• I have recieved permission from the author for it to be under GFDL, thereby ready for the Wikipedia.
• Having the Index on Wikipedia will allow it to be updated, it will allow editors to add new entries, and it will allow editors with different editions of the book to add information about their edition to the index.

That is why I felt that it would be both encyclopedic, and generally useful.

Regarding creating a reference before creating the page, I had understood that I should create the reference first, rather than creating an orphaned page, and then linking it to related pages. If I misunderstood, I am sorry.

Finally, Kieff, please sign your comments on talk pages, especially if you are telling someone off.

Sorry about the signature, guess I forgot. About the page, if you really think it's a REALLY relevant link, you can add it, but it'll be verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did). But if it's like that, we should probably include MJ Simpson's Planet Magrathea site on the external links. — Kieff | Talk 05:59, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

Since I'm waiting for a final conformation regarding GFDL status for the Index, I added it as an External Link in the meantime. I also added Planet Magrathea, as you suggested. ;-) What did you mean "verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did)"? I'm sure other editors will look at the changes and some may fall into the same misunderstandings as you did, but, AFAIK there is no "verification", just many eyes. Thanks again for your vigilance. JesseW 06:17, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

When webpages are linked to in Wikipedia, people usually check how relevant it is (using Google or Alexa ranks and such), and see if the addition of it in Wikipedia is or is not needed~, or if it is some sort of self promotion and etc. — Kieff | Talk 06:43, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

I see. Thanks! I didn't know about that before. JesseW 06:47, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

tag!

I'm just leaving a note here so you could find my purdy pictures again. [1] [2]

BesigedB 17:42, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comma, stress, etc.

Thanks for your nice note. That was thoughtful. :) Maurreen 04:57, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Housekeeping medal

Hi, Jesse. I gave you a WikiMedal for Janitorial Services. Maurreen 03:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome! You deserve it. Maurreen 05:09, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Unidentified weapom

Sorry, You asked where I got the picture [Image:Unidentified weapon 2004.jpg] it came from some London anarchitect/antiglobalist activists/pranksters that photographed it in a trade show. I think it is a real weapon, like some kind of robot machine gun or autoshooting sniper rifle or something. It was photo'd at a weapon fair in London, like for big military contractors to push their pretty new death machines. Hey, do some juggling and put it on one of the juggling pages. I will if you will. Pedant 21:20, 2004 Dec 2 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take you up on that(the juggling); I'm not sure when I'll have the time, but it's a good idea. ;-) JesseW 03:03, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Procrastination by fellow Reedies

Jesse! Good to see you here, though I haven't seen much of you IRL this semester. I admire your resolve in practicing "wiki-abstinence" until Xmas break. Would that I had the same self-control. :D -leigh 08:26, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

WikiProjects

Thanks for cleaning this up. You're a great Fairy. Uh... you know what I mean. -leigh (φθόγγος) 00:11, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

heheheheh. You're welcome. JesseW 21:22, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Village Pump archives format change

Hi JessW, I wanted to let you know that I've changed (for the better I hope) the format of the Village Pump archives slightly. I hope you don't mind ;-) Paul August 15:06, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

By the way, I forgot to mention, what a good job you've been doing there ;-) Paul August 15:08, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Looks great. Took me a sec to figure it out, as I put the listings at the bottom so they would be easier to find, but actually, your way makes the ToC clearer and is generally better. Good job. JesseW 19:46, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, glad you like it. Paul August 19:54, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Category Browsing Tools?

To be honest, I don't know how to use what you've created. Would they be useful in creating a list showing the structure of everything under Category:Japan, and how do I use them? Or, do you know of something that I can use for that purpose that doesn't require Python? [[User:GK|gK ¿?]] 07:02, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks so much for giving me feedback on them. Don't worry about not knowing how to use them, I havn't documented them very well yet. If you have any other questions to start me off, please let me know- it'll help we figure out what to write. Yes, they can create a list showing the structure of everything under category:Japan; I'm making one as I type, and it's here. (The text list that was produced while comming up with the list is here.) I don't know of anything else that does this, or I would have used it, but if you let me know of things you want here, I'll create and post them when I read the messages... Thanks again for being interested in it; it's nice to see someone else who wants to use it. JesseW 02:47, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me. You should let all the active WikiProjects know about it, as well as the regional notice boards and any active Collaboration of the Week. I'm am sure that most of them would probably find it useful for organizing/reorganizing their respective areas. The Categories feature can be a useful tool, but since it requires human maintainance, it can also be less organized than it should be. A prime example is the WikiCommons where the Category organization for the entire project is, quite honestly, a mess. [[User:GK|gK ¿?]] 11:31, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I've now looked at it a little more, and I have some questions and suggestions: 1) I am not sure what the "Entered:" and the numbers after that mean. 2) It would be nice if it followed an outline format with some sort of Roman numerals, numbers, capital letters, lowercase letters organization. 3) It would also be nice for each category except at the bottom to list the number of articles and subcategories directly below it (e.g. Japan: 24 subcategories, 81 articles). The number of articles is really not that important (except for detecting underpopulated and possibly unecessary categories). Not as important, but something that might be nice to add would be to also include the number of "supercategories". It's still going to awhile to find all the duplicates and weird organization under the Japan category (e.g. Category:Japanese atheletes and Category:Japanese sportspeople). Again, thank you. [[User:GK|gK ¿?]] 14:24, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for creating the list and graphic. It's looking much better now. I do have one suggestion, and one request. First, the suggestion: You probably should have a couple of more characters of offset per level just so that each level is easier to recognize, or, instead of using all numbers, do a hierachy of ordering like most outline programs, so that one level is Roman numerals, the next is capital letters, then numbers, then lower case letters, etc. I.A.1.a....

Now the request: Even though I'm still digesting the info on Category:Japan, could you also create a list for Category:Stub categories (which should be much smaller than the one for Japan)? gK ¿? 03:40, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Reedie Wikipedians

Hey, so I was looking through the facebook and I was like, I know that guy! How's break going for you Jesse? I'm gonna be back at reed in the spring, so i'll see you then, but I've gotten to thinking there should be an organized group for wikipedians on campus next semester, cause i figure more than a few reedies use it and contribute. Hit me up on my talk page. Soren9580 05:55, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

GAP

JesseW, thank you for your concern. It is true that one of the sources I used to gather information that I used in starting the Prospect Park and GAP pages comes from the Prospect Park Alliance, but I do not think there are any "copyright violations". Not every sentence or phrase is covered by copyright and the writing that may have some similarities does not necessarily consist of copyright violations when it is put together. I do not think "large" amounts of text are copied as you say, but there were a few turns of phrase that seemed generic enough to me to repeat without be accused of copyright violation. While sentence structures may be similiar and there are a lot of facts that are the same (not all) I think you will find that it is really just the information that was copied from that web site; whenever I have used other people's information I have always been careful about reworking the text to make it my own. It is not against any law to copy information, especially when it is very generic and well known by a lot of people. If it really concerns you I suggest if you find some sentences that are too similar for your taste to just rewrite them, otherwise I would like to point out that the Prospect Park Alliance is just trying to promote the history of Prospect Park (and I think there are other sites that use similar texts, I also have several books that I used in drafting that material) so I cannot see how they have any strong claim to the information and generic writing that is on their website and there is a strong fair use argument in favour of Wikipedia anyway. If you are really concerned, just rewrite the few similarities you find and it then will only appear in the pages histories anyway, so that that is not considered a copyright violation as it is just archival material. As an entertainment lawyer (which is what I do during the day) I can tell you I am _very_ sensitive to these issues, so I appreciate your concern, but I really can't see how there is a violation unless you can give me something more specific to go on like word by word comparisons that show whole paragraphs have been copied. Thanks. — © Alex756 06:12, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. I have looked at the Grand Army Plaza page again, and decided that the only paragraph that I was unfomfortable about was the first paragraph under the History section heading. I've rephrased it, so that's fine now. I agree with your description that there were a "few turns of phrase" you repeated, and that those are probably not sufficient for copyright violation. However, I think they were close enough(especially the sentance "the Plaza featured little more than a simple fountain surrounded by Olmsted and Vaux's distinctive berms (banks of earth used as a barrier) with dense plantings" which was identical in the source and Wikipedia article is a little long for "good taste" I totally belive that you are very sensitive to these issues, and I thank you for explaining to me the history of the page. Lets continue to make a great encyclopedia! Thanks! JesseW 01:26, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

DSL story source

You added the following paragraph to the DSL page. It makes some claims that I haven't heard elsewhere. Could you add some sources for it(news reports, historical studies, etc.)? It's good writing, and interesting, but it needs to be sourced.

The paragraph: "Its origin dates back to 1988, when an engineer at Bell research lab deviced a way to carry digital signal over the unused frequency spectrum. This allows ordinary phone line to provide digital communication without blocking access to voice services. Bells management however were not enthusiastic about it as it was not as profitable as renting out a second line for those consumers who prefered to still have acess to the phone when dialing out. This however changed in the late 90s when cable companies started marketing broadband internet access. Realising that most consumers would prefer broadband over a second dial out line, Bell companies rushed out the DSL technology that they had been sitting on for the past decade as an attempt to slow broadband internet access uptake."

JesseW, sorry for taking long to respond. My laptop died on me the other day, and have been editing wikipedia from public computers and don't bother to log in. Anyway, i got this story from Crafting and Executing strategy 14th edition" by Arthur A. Thompson Jr. I don't have it with me today, but can give the page number if someone insist. Did you remove it or something? I should have pointed the source, but i assumed it wouldn't look odd since that the paragraph is a hallmark of how most PHBs respond everywhere.

No problem. Thanks for letting me know the source. I've mentioned it on the talk page, and since I don't have a copy of the book, I'll let it rest there. Thanks again. JesseW 05:35, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia namespace

Thank you for your kind words. Cleaning neglected areas of the Wikipedia (like this one) produces a satisfaction not unlike that of cleaning a very dirty room. You can see a big difference after you've finished, and thus feel you've accomplished something. I guess that's why I'm doing it. 8) -- Beland 01:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Cigarette#Junk_science response

Hey JesseW. Thank you so much for taking the time to write me about my efforts to get the tobacco industry's junk science revealed. I have provided a source I found, a prosecution memo from Congress to the Department of Justice in 1994. I know it may not be the end-all-be-all, but it does use the term "junk science" in the memo to explain tobacco industry-sponsored research. It also generally does a good job of outlining how shady the industry was to get its own false science embraced by the public. Swing over to the talk page to see my official response. Thanks again. --Howrealisreal 16:04, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Interested in an L.A.-area Wiki meetup?

It appears as though L.A. has never had a Wiki meetup. Would you be interested in attending such an event? If so, checkout User:Eric Shalov/Wikimeetup

- Eric 16:25, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikification

Wikification is tedious. You have to check sources... all that stuff. The purpose of the wikification wikiproject is to gather a group of people that will keep the Articles that Need to be Wikified category short. Wanna join? Shanedidona 30 June 2005 15:24 (UTC)

Well, I often do wikification (i.e. putting links, paragraphing, bolding the subject, etc.) already - if you want to set up a list of people who work on this, OK, I'd be on that - you could put it at Category_talk:Articles_that_need_to_be_wikified, rather than making a seperate WikiProject, unless there's more to it than just people who often work on wikifying. But I'm glad to see more people working on that subject. JesseW 30 June 2005 21:03 (UTC)

The Cleanup Mess

Just in case you're not watching the page, I've put some thoughts on this subject onto User talk:Jekoko/Cleanup links. And, by the way, I think Wikipedia:Pages needing attention could be linked to WikiProjects, but I don't think it should be eliminated - it's too commonly used. More thoughts at the above post. Thanks for listening, Soundguy99 16:08, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Live Preview

Hi, Jesse. Thanks for your patches! I'll put it in the source and ask an admin to update it. As you have read, I am no longer working on Live Preview, mostly because I had an accident with my HD in which I lost the latest, better version (I was mid-way to some rather large improvements and thus got very frustrated when it was all gone), but also because of the other, better, parser (works only in Mozilla AFAIK). I might, however, get back to work on it someday, if I see there could still be a need for it in the future. Best regards, Pilaf 22:43, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I forgot to mention, since I used a "packed" version of the code for actual use (a very bad decission) I've lost the source code in commented, human-readable form. I read on the talk page that you have a semi-commented version, did you make that with the packed source? I'm certainly interested in having that since I the original source code is nowhere to be found. If you have, could you send it to pfayolle at gmail dot com? Thanks again, Pilaf 22:58, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm so sorry to hear you had a HD problem. That sucks. Thanks for the link to the other parser - oddly it seems to be stalled too, also for a non-technical reason (he broke his arm), and isn't releasing code since it's for an disertation. Live Preview does work, though, and I will am using it happily. I will probably keep sending it patches, hope you don't mind. JesseW 23:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Category_talk:Dialogues_of_Plato

Hi, I was wondering if we could continue executing the work on the naming of the Platonic dialogues. Pretty much nothing's happened for almost two weeks. Thanks! --Girolamo Savonarola 06:05, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm baffled by the discussion (at the momment) but that's probably because it's late at night and I'm tired right now. I'll look at it again when I am less tired and see if I can make a coherent comment at that point. I would suggest (if you haven't already) that you ask Francis to comment on your objections, and explain how your way would solve the problem he mentions with regards to The Lovers being blue even though it is not actually on the subject of the plato dialog; i.e. how do we disambiguate non-existing pages. (Sorry if that last bit didn't make any sense.) JesseW 06:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. I'll try to get on that tomorrow (limited internet access at the moment). However, I think at this point our main obstacle is simply that I need an admin to make the required article moves that remain due to moves back and forth. This is what I was trying to do with a request to the admin for a move when Mel started to block the suggestion. Disambigs don't worry me - I think it's clear what needs to be done and how to execute them (and furthermore it has already been discussed there). Anyway, thanks for being willing to step in and help solve this whole mess! I really appreciate your effort. --Girolamo Savonarola 15:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

re: NPOV explanation

"You're welcome!" he says, in an embarassed but flattered tone of voice. :) Garrett^Talk 10:29, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

House Ginaz

Thanks for your note. I guess I must have missed that one. My edit summary ({{cleanup-context}} DuneMUSH?)) was just my guess about what the missing context was, not an indication of where the text itself might have come from. This must have been based on a Google search as I don't really know what DuneMUSH means, but I evidently didn't stumble on the right document to match it exactly. I'm usually pretty good at tracking down copyvios. Bovlb 03:48:29, 2005-07-19 (UTC)

California Certified Organic Farmers on DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article California Certified Organic Farmers, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently-created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

MediaWiki:Newarticletext

The new article template is now updated as discussed. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:36, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Fatima bint Asad

Hi, I saw you relisted Fatima bint Asad as a copyvio. While it is obvious Striver copied and pasted this into a page, I can find no copyright on the parent site. It appears to have been done by an amateur historian and is clearly very poorly translated considering basic grammar mistakes. Could you provide a URl to the page that shows the copyright? I have searched this page and thus far been unsuccesful. Thanks. freestylefrappe 00:23, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

Ah! Thank you for your explanation! Now I understand what you meant on in the edit summary when you talked about looking all the way through the page. The reason I relisted it was that a copyright notice (at least in Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works signatories) is not required for something to be under copyright, and inelibble for inclusion into Wikipedia. Here are some pages to review in regards to this: Copyright#Copyright_notices, Wikipedia:Copyright#Contributors.27_rights_and_obligations, Public_domain#Expiration. After reading those pages, let me know if you still think the copied text is allowable, or if you have any other questions. Thanks for responding so quickly! (Also copied on Freestylefrappe's talk page) JesseW 00:40, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Now I understand. If you haven't already, you might want to inform Striver that a copyright notice is not required. Additionally I would suggest going through his contributions as quite a few, which I have spent several hours cleaning up, seem to be copyright violations... thanks. freestylefrappe 01:04, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

Sigh. :-) Ok. I'll post the same links I gave to you on his page, and look over his contributions. I'm glad to have cleared this up, though! Sorry about you having spent hours cleaning up copyvios, though, that always sucks. (I've done it myself, sometimes.) JesseW 01:25, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Teishebaini

Well, I wrote the article so I ought to be the one to show the sources. I will do that right away, thanks for pointing that out to me Jessie!--Moosh88 23:05, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad your're doing will add your sources. But please add discussion on my Talk page, not my user page. And the name is Jesse(account: JesseW => real name: Jesse). JesseW 00:56, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake.--Moosh88 02:12, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

House Ordos

Hi JesseW, Yes, the good edits have to be separated from the copyvio edits and moved to the /Temp page (per User:BrokenSegue). Remember to attribute the authors of the good edits when you move material to /Temp. --Duk 15:39, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

P.S. this might be all done, I haven't looked. If it looks good to you then leave a note under its listing at WP:CP and an administrator will delete the article and move /Temp into its place. Also, as an aside, if the article didn't start as a copyvio then we only need to revert to the oldest version that is copyvio free, instead of creating a new article at /Temp. So, strictly speaking, this article didn't need to be re-written, just reverted. But doing it this way removes the copyvios from history, which is good. --Duk 15:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for catching my mistake on that category thing on my user page. It probably would have escaped my vision for awhile Derktar 00:56, July 26, 2005 (UTC).

No problem. I was cleaning out the category, and your and a few other user pages showed up like a red flag. I'm just glad none of them were the subject of vandalism and so protected. Keep on contributing to Wikipedia! JesseW 01:07, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Neologisms

Hi there. Please revisit Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Neo-new wave where I provide several references warning against neologisms. Thanks. -Splash 16:57, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Aliphatic compound

Thanks for your note on WikiProject Chemicals. The article certainly needs attention as it is internally inconsistent: someone (hopefully our Organic Chemistry expert, if not me) will get round to fixing it, maybe even soon ;-) As for our worklist, we don´t list article covering classes of compounds (such as this one) so that we can try to concentrate on those covering specific compounds... All the same, we are not so narrow-minded as to ignore problems like this completely, when we get to find them (there are roughly 3000 chemistry articles on Wikipedia, of which about 1000 cover specific chemicals, of which 350 are on our priority list, of which a few get improved every month: you see the problem!). Anyway, thanks for your interest and help, and keep up the good work! Physchim62 10:45, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

I understand(and a sympathetic to) the scale issues. (I'm working on the missing encyclopeidia articles project, so I know about big lists... ;-) ). I didn't reallize it was internally inconsistent - shows how much chemistry I know, it just looked incomplete and somehow odd. If I come across any other ones, I'll drop a note on the project talk page. Thanks so much for all the work you all are doing! JesseW 23:49, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Fatima bint Asad

I rv Striver's last two edits. It was a copyvio. I posted an explanation and the site he got it from on the talk page. freestylefrappe 00:06, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

Wikiprojects

Thank you for your kind words regarding this. Sorry to be so tardy in replying, I have been on holiday. Steve block talk 21:56, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Citations

The template is used to inform editors that someone is actually reading.

lots of issues | leave me a message 11:24, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

SoCal article categorization

Since you mentioned at the Southern California WikiProject that you were interested in the categorization of SoCal articles, you might be interested in my thoughts on the topic that I've listed on the WP's Talk page. Also, your Category Browsing Tool (if it still works with the recent updates in the MediaWiki software) would probably be very helpful. BlankVerse ∅ 08:40, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

THANK YOU!

What a mess! The biggest problem that I see is the usual conflating of LA City, LA County, LA Basic, LA region, etc. That's going to take F-O-R-E-V-E-R to sort out and rename, etc.

I'll probably edit the list to make a condensed version (eliminating the multiple references to Apple Computer, for example) and put that on its own subpage. Then I'll create a SoCal version of the condensed version and create a subpage under the SoCal WikiProject for it. Then I'll probably create a proposed reorganization before I actually start moving and renaming things. After reorganizing, resorting, renaming, etc., then there will probably be a fairly good-sized list of categories to nominate at CFD. If you have any suggestions, I want to hear them. BlankVerse ∅ 09:42, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I really like the output that you get from your Category Browsing Tool. There is only one thing that I would like to see added, but I don't know how hard it would be for you to do. What I'd like to see is the number of articles in each category. Is that doable?

I'll probably suggest the Tool to the folks in the Stub-sorting WikiProject. You can see at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types where they've sort of done the same thing as your Category Browsing Tool, but they've done it all by hand. BlankVerse ∅ 00:13, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

doNextItem() in monobook.js not working in Opera

Hi JesseW.... Just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't already, that the latest version of your monobook.js (dated 20:11, 1 August 2005) doesn't seem to work in Opera — that is, unless I'm doing something wrong, which won't be the first time :) . I'm using the latest version, Opera 8.02 for Windows, en-US. Everything works fine in Firefox & IE, though.

I think the problem's somewhere in doNextItem(). I was able to get it to work if I commented it out & any references to it. I don't know enough javascript to nail it down any further, though (which is why I'm trying to use your monobook.js instead of writing my own :) ). Here's the exact error message that's showing up on my javascript console:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gsp/monobook.js&action=submit
Event thread: BeforeScript
Syntax error while loading: line 5 of inline script at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gsp/monobook.js&action=submit : 
ocation=oldone+"&basepage="+escape(baseul)}; if (/basepage=/
---------------------------------------------------^

It stops there, and nothing else from monoscript.js works. I made sure all my javascript settings were on in Opera, but the error keeps showing up. I have heard, though, that Opera is more strict at parsing javascript code than other browsers :( .

If you happen to have any spare time to fix it, that'd be great. And if you need any more details, let me know. Thanks! -- Gsp 09:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi again, JesseW. Sorry, I don't use IRC. I did try your suggestion, but I got the same error. :( -- Gsp 21:06, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Fixed link to your archives

Thanks for spotting this. Pavel Vozenilek 00:32, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Sheesh, 2nd edit conflict with Alistair...

I'm slightly confused? Who am I having an edit conflict with? AlistairMcMillan 02:24, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry - miscommunication. I happened to be editing two VfD pages at the same time you were, thereby bringing up the "Edit Conflict" page. Someone else(I have no idea why), claimed that there was some kind of editorial conflict over Star Trek pages, on one of the VfDs. These things are unrelated. Sorry about the confusion... JesseW 02:30, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

No problem. :) AlistairMcMillan 02:33, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Contributing to WikiTravel

Thanks for pointing out the existence of WikiTravel to me, regarding Kool Korners Grocery. I had somehow been oblivious to it. After a quick look at that site it does not seem like users can create new pages, so your suggestion is to add an excerpt to an existing page? Presumably under "Atlanta" section 9.3? Also, by the way, I subscribe to the PD license for my Wiki edits, so there should be no licensing restrictions on you moving content, should you desire. --Eoghanacht 12:31, 2005 August 4 (UTC)

I knew of it's existance, but I didn't know anything about it. Looking it over, you can easily create new pages - just go to a non-existing page, like http://wikitravel.org/en/Kool_Korners_Grocery and click edit... However, I suspect you are right to put it into the Atlanta page. Good luck with your Wikipedia contributions! JesseW 15:59, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I think the best thing for you to do is, first, make sure you have a copy of your text from Kool Korners Grocery; then, register a WikiTravel account, and post a copy of KKG as a subpage of your user page. Then, ask on the general discussion page whether or not the material would be welcomed... JesseW 16:03, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject

thx for moving my "comment". But I really was shocked when I saw what they want from people before staarting a project. For me this is one more beaurocratic thing to avoid. Number of people. Don't get it. Why is there no further explaination but only this mean one "go on and edit articles". ? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 22:44, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Picture from RFW

Al, please explain further why the picture from RFW's page is a case of fair use. As it says on Wikipedia:Fair use: "every page that uses the image will have a distinct rationale for using the image on that page". Thanks! JesseW 16:14, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

The picture of David Touretzky from RFW is used for an article about David Touretzky. Anyway, the image is not copyrighted. --AI 02:22, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. As the image has now been replaced, I think the discussion is done. JesseW 19:44, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Baxter Boulevard

Gah. I can't believe I was fooled by that hoax. =( Xaa 22:50, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

no worries. Hope you changed your vote on the VfD, though... JesseW 22:51, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry

for not responding to your request to edit Mediawiki:Newarticletext; I was on vacation when you left the notice and then I just forgot to get back to it. I see it's already been done by someone else: looks good. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 02:10, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for the response! JesseW 17:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Introduction

Hi, sorry, I was just testing, and I forgot that I was logged in with my bot account because of another test. --Head 00:45, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

NP. Thanks for the explanation. JesseW 00:47, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Checking for copyvios

Thanks for the reminder about checking for copyvios before putting {{wikify}} on an article. I normally do that, but on this occasion it slipped my mind, so your little nudge was useful. Thanks! Loganberry (Talk) 01:29, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

I know how it is. Glad I could help! (Sigh, I just found another one, though; this in a forum post a few days before the article was created.) JesseW 01:34, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Lovedale

We were working on it at the same time, but I had wikified and added material from other sources. Sorry about the wasted work, but I think mine was more advanced! David Brooks 06:23, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, yours is definitly better. Where did you find out when the school closed - that was what was stumping me... JesseW 06:25, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

First Google hit for Lovedale South Africa: http://www.actsascotland.org.uk/early.html David Brooks 16:45, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Introduction

Thanks for the kind words Trödel|talk 01:05, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Me reminding myself to link this anon's contributions to me.

This is me not-logged-on using a Beverly Hills Library computer. Thanks, self! 69.230.186.34 01:36, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

OK

But sooner or later we are definitely going to standardise the infoboxes. When that happens, you're infobox will most likely be upgraded. If the only reason that the templates aren't upgraded are because of complexity, we can assist. We will soon be working on a project to standardise the boxes. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:03, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I agree totally. I just reverted so the page wouldn't screw up. I have no connection with the Moutains WikiProject - I just came to across it in regards to a different issue: should "first ascent" be clarified to mean: first documented(i.e. European) ascent? I'm going to wade into the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mountains/General#WikiTax, hopefully I can help clear it up. JesseW 05:07, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Why...

...Thank you! A Reedie! I don't think I've ever met one on Wikipedia before now. And what's this "ex" stuff? Not anything serious is it? Perhaps we'll meet this year :) Nice to be noticed (as long as I wasn't doing something stupid), so it was kind of you to leave a note. I guess I want people to get this user-page-off-limits taboo out of their systems, I mean it's a wiki, right? So what was I gonna... hey! how did you just leave me a message when I was in the middle of writing you? Anyway... funnily enough Image:San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg was my computer wallpaper, reminds me of home. Well, thanks, and oh no, Daily Show's on already. (Oh yeah, pg. 160 and counting of the Iliad- er, little behind :) Dmcdevit·t 06:04, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Dialogues of Plato

Turns out I do need your help again. Mel's back up to his usual blocking moves on the articles' talk spaces. I am going to try to get the entire debate moved to the old stomping grounds so that everything can be clear and consolidated to any newcomers who might not be totally informed of the history of the situation. If there's anything you think you can do to help, I'd be very grateful. Thanks! --Girolamo Savonarola 21:12, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

External web site link

Hi! Thank you for updating the Forbidden Gardens article category from "Museums" to "Museums in Texas". Good catch! I notice you edited the external web site link description to say "Official site". I have edited it back to say "Forbidden Gardens web site" because this is the actual name of the web site and because it makes the full description visible to readers. It was me! Glad to discuss. -- Sitearm | Talk 04:17, 2005 August 12 (UTC)

You said: I've left a comment there about my reason for changing the link names to "offical site".

Got your response(s) (thank you!) and took the opportunity to try and learn a little more about WikiPedia stuff. On our topic the Manual of Style says it is better for a meaningful title to be displayed rather than the URL itself but doesn't prescribe anything more specific. So it seems to boil down to respective interpretations whether "Official site" or "Forbidden Gardens web site" are equally or differently meaningful for this link (or whether another title would be even better). My personal policy is to put the name of the organization in the link title when it is their web page, and I would not say "official site" unless the organization itself uses that label (which I have seen, for example, for "official" author and actor web sites where there are a lot of competing fan sites). In this case, the organization in question would probably LOVE to have the problem of competing fan sites (joke). -- Sitearm | Talk 00:04, 2005 August 13 (UTC)

Sicilian School

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. The English 'pedia is big and sometimes you just don't know where to ask your questions. If you have more suggestions on how to clean up the Sicilian School or there is anything I can help you with, feel free to drop in! --Wikipedius 17:18, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Page vandalism

You're welcome. Oh, don't worry about me having a problem with taking cr*p, I've just come back from a loooooooooooooong Wikivacation, so I'm pretty upbeat right now.  :) Zoe 20:13, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject user scripts

I see you're pretty good with Javascript - would you like to join the WikiProject on user scripts? It's currently located at User:ABCD/WikiProject User scripts but should be getting a permanant home fairly soon. Thanks, Alphax ^τεχ 11:30, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Hiya Hippie

Hello yes thank you. I am a friend of Pumpie's. So I am this friend of his, that's all. I'm trying to help him help all of us. Thank you hello.

Well, as a further piece of evidence, it's consistent with the rest. Sigh. JesseW 02:36, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

What do you mean? Why are you being mean and mad to me? I am just trying to help. I'm sorry that I dont have any "evidence" for you.The Briz

What makes you think I am being "mean and mad" in regards to you? JesseW 02:51, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

What is with the 'sigh.' business. is that not a bit mean to me?