Talk:Everyman

Citations needed desperately

Like a lot of articles on literary and dramatic conventions, this one is sort of reasonable. But it bears all the hallmarks of some editor thinking the matter through on his own. All the claims about difference between the medieval and the modern need scholarly justification, for starters.

I've also brutally pruned the list of examples. Again, there are no citations that someone or another considered any of them to be this sort of character; but it also seemed to me that a number of them definitely are not. I could just as well have struck them all, but it seems to me that Heywood Floyd is just bland (because he's in an Arthur C. Clarke novel, after all), rather than representing some sort of human universality. Mangoe (talk) 16:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

The list of examples is getting big once again. I'm going to delete all the unsourced examples; if anyone wants to restore an example, ensure that it is properly sourced. Hasta luego (talk) 22:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

The Simpsons

The article mentions Homer Simpson of The Simpsons as an example. An interesting fact is that in a recent episode, Homer the Whopper, Homer literally becomes "Everyman" in the film adaptation of the comic book superhero Everyman created by Comic Book Guy. This could be added to the article, but I've chosen to mentioned it on this discussion page for now. --82.171.70.54 (talk) 11:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

James T. Kirk

Could James Kirk be considered another example of the "Everyman" in contemporary fiction? He embodies all of the qualities that the article lists as defining the Everyman, plus the story of him reaching middle age in The Wrath of Khan contains themes about mortality, masculinity, and reconciling with a past romantic partner that could cause that movie to be considered an Everyman story. Although most of the films/TV series listed as examples are comedies, I still believe this character is worth adding to the list. He is arguably more familiar to the general public than any of the other characters listed, with the possible exception of Jim from The Office.--Antodav2007 (talk) 20:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Not unless someone comes up with a citation! Seriously, he's an obvious heroic character so there's little chance that anyone is going to tag him as an "everyman". Mangoe (talk) 20:29, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Example used

In this article example used do not match with explanation given for 'Everyman'. Everyman is like a perfect man, so example will be like James bond etc. But example includes 'Ted Mosby', 'Lester Burnham' although whole series and film revolve around them, but they aren't shown as 'Everyman'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.78.217.151 (talk) 15:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC)