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Regardless of whether you were right or wrong with respect to policy, do you really think it's appropriate to template an editor like Phil? Toddst1 (talk) 01:40, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Please don't delink userpage references to deleted files
Thanks. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:06, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. Feel free to revert it, but remember that it is a non-existant file. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 23:07, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
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My instinct is telling me fairly strongly that whatever you are trying to accomplish on TreasuryTag's talkpage isn't worth edit-warring over. I also notice you didn't ask TreasuryTag if he was okay with your making the change before you made it, which would certainly have been a preferred practice.
That being said, I'm not expressing any definite opinion here because I can't really figure out what you and the other editors are disagreeing over. What exactly is the issue with the header (or whatever it is) that you are trying to remove, and why is it a significant problem? Thanks for your response, Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:24, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Some comments:
- LikeLakers2, if you do this again, you will be blocked for edit-warring. Repeatedly reinstating your change after three separate editors revert you is completely unacceptable.
- This is being discussed on WP:AN here; it appears you weren't notified of that.
- Newyorkbrad: TreasuryTag has set the title of his talk page to simply "TreasuryTag" instead of "User talk:TreasuryTag". Whether this is a problem is being discussed at AN. 28bytes (talk) 18:12, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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Your recent edits seem to have the appearance of edit warring after a review of the reverts you have made on User talk:TreasuryTag. Users are expected to collaborate and discuss with others and avoid editing disruptively.
Please be particularly aware, the three-revert rule states that:
- Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Snowolf How can I help? 20:26, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Miscounted, it's 2 reverts, but avoid re-reverting please. Snowolf How can I help? 20:27, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- I suspect that the more tailored question I've posted just above may help resolve this issue more amicably than a templated warning. Hopefully, LikeLakers2 can identify what the specific problem is and, unless it is more serious than I had imagined, can agree to drop the issue. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:24, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Strongly suggest LL2 to go read up on WP:TPO, WP:HARASS and WP:MYOB, as he has repeatedly done this on User talk:Jimbo Wales, User talk:Baseball Bugs and mine just to name a few others. Doing this on a long term basis, as what you have done, is a very sure way of getting our full attention when you ever get "nominated" to the halls of WP:ANI. FWIW. --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 19:06, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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- Moved to better place. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 14:31, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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- Again, moved to better place. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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- Timestamp. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 13:44, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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Timestamp. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 01:06, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for that edit. Forgot the template. Cheers --Edcolins (talk) 13:26, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)- Really? Name one edit where I harrassed him. And besides, the edit that I made today was for something completely different than that revert thing. I wasn't going to, nor will I, make any more edits to his user talk page. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 19:31, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I can accept that you did not subjectively mean to "harass" TreasuryTag, but my personal view is that you used imperfect judgment in tinkering with his talkpage after it should have been obvious that your efforts there were not appreciated. It is especially important to avoid any appearance of "piling on" to this editor given his current status with the project. That being said, I was actually intending to ask you whether you would agree, going forward, not to edit this user's talkpage again. Now that you have made that promise, perhaps the blocking administrator would consider lifting or reducing the block, or you can post an unblock request here using the template. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I would. I've also talked with DeltaQuad (talk · contribs) on IRC in pm about it, and he says he would take a look at it at 00:00 on Monday. (which is tomorrow) LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:14, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I actually gave LikeLakers a very explicit warning on IRC that he needed to stop editing userspace in that manner, especially TreasuryTag's userspace, mere minutes before he went on to continue such edits. My exact words were, "Look, let me try to put this is a very black-and-white fashion: other people’s userspace is not your concern. You are becoming increasingly obsessed with policing what people do on their talkpages, and it’s becoming very, very close to being disruptive. You need to lay off. Edit templates, edit articles, but just unwatch userspace. Pretend it’s not there." He agreed to that at the time, and I'm very disappointed that he apparently chose to discount my advice shortly thereafter. If I had noticed him doing his latest edit on TT's talk before Sarek did, I would also have blocked. I'm not convinced at this point that LikeLakers is able to stop making edits like this to userspace, no matter how many assurances he gives here or on IRC. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:15, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- What do you mean "continue"? I did one edit after, which was for something completely unrelated. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- LikeLakers2, please agree not to edit other people's userspaces at all (except of course for ordinary posts to people's talkpages). I think that if you make that commitment, and keep to it, that may help resolve the situation. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I won't edit other people's usertalk page. (my only exception to that would be to remove protection templates from non-protected pages. I'm usually patroling Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates anyway) LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Not just user talk pages, LikeLakers. Userspace, period. User pages, user talk pages, user subpages, the whole shebang. To build on what Brad says, I'd hope to see assurance that you will not undo anyone's edits to userspace, that you will not refactor statements in userspace, that you will not take it upon yourself to say what may and may not be done in userspace, and that if at any time a user asks you to stay clear of their userspace, you do so. I would suggest you limit yourself to leaving comments on user talk pages regarding situations in which you are involved, and undoing obvious vandalism. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:45, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, all of those. I guess I probably misunderstood Newyorkbrad. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:52, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Not just user talk pages, LikeLakers. Userspace, period. User pages, user talk pages, user subpages, the whole shebang. To build on what Brad says, I'd hope to see assurance that you will not undo anyone's edits to userspace, that you will not refactor statements in userspace, that you will not take it upon yourself to say what may and may not be done in userspace, and that if at any time a user asks you to stay clear of their userspace, you do so. I would suggest you limit yourself to leaving comments on user talk pages regarding situations in which you are involved, and undoing obvious vandalism. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:45, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I won't edit other people's usertalk page. (my only exception to that would be to remove protection templates from non-protected pages. I'm usually patroling Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates anyway) LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- LikeLakers2, please agree not to edit other people's userspaces at all (except of course for ordinary posts to people's talkpages). I think that if you make that commitment, and keep to it, that may help resolve the situation. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- What do you mean "continue"? I did one edit after, which was for something completely unrelated. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I actually gave LikeLakers a very explicit warning on IRC that he needed to stop editing userspace in that manner, especially TreasuryTag's userspace, mere minutes before he went on to continue such edits. My exact words were, "Look, let me try to put this is a very black-and-white fashion: other people’s userspace is not your concern. You are becoming increasingly obsessed with policing what people do on their talkpages, and it’s becoming very, very close to being disruptive. You need to lay off. Edit templates, edit articles, but just unwatch userspace. Pretend it’s not there." He agreed to that at the time, and I'm very disappointed that he apparently chose to discount my advice shortly thereafter. If I had noticed him doing his latest edit on TT's talk before Sarek did, I would also have blocked. I'm not convinced at this point that LikeLakers is able to stop making edits like this to userspace, no matter how many assurances he gives here or on IRC. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:15, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I would. I've also talked with DeltaQuad (talk · contribs) on IRC in pm about it, and he says he would take a look at it at 00:00 on Monday. (which is tomorrow) LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:14, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I can accept that you did not subjectively mean to "harass" TreasuryTag, but my personal view is that you used imperfect judgment in tinkering with his talkpage after it should have been obvious that your efforts there were not appreciated. It is especially important to avoid any appearance of "piling on" to this editor given his current status with the project. That being said, I was actually intending to ask you whether you would agree, going forward, not to edit this user's talkpage again. Now that you have made that promise, perhaps the blocking administrator would consider lifting or reducing the block, or you can post an unblock request here using the template. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Just want to point out that I have three IPs (well, two, and my phones dynamic ip). One is 71.101.46.244 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), (or at least, that is what it was when I was blocked; also that ip is the one for my dads house) and the second is 173.171.53.193 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), which is my main home IP. (This is the one I am using right now) My third IP, which is my cell phone's IP, is dynamic, so I have no way of giving any one IP address. In general, I'll be logged into this account anyway. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 21:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Unblocked per agreement above. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Huh, I can't clear the autoblock - weird. If you're still autoblocked, ask someone else to try to clear it for you. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:11, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Give me a second to grab the unblock template and I'll post em here. Also, this made me lmao. LikeLakers2 (talk | Sign my guestbook!) 22:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- LikeLakers2/Archives (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
- 173.171.53.193 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Block message:
Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "LikeLakers2". The reason given for LikeLakers2's block is: "Personal attacks or harassment: Continuing to m
- Blocking administrator: SarekOfVulcan (talk • blocks)
Accept reason: That should do it. The autoblock tool doesn't preload the autoblock anymore, which is a pain. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 23:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I'm glad to see that you were unblocked, and pleased to see that you've agreed to stop interfering with other editors' userspace, because it seems, however good your intentions, your doing so annoys the editors whose userspace you're editing. Anyway, thank you for your earlier message about TT. I was aware that he reverted my edit, but it was simply a crude method of preventing the archival of the block notification and declined unblock request; since TT solved the problem (albeit only for 48 hours), there's no need to do anything. Hopefully you can find an activity that doesn't involve other peoples' userpace—there's no shortage of backlogs if you're stuck for ideas. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- LikeLakers2, one of my favorite recommendations is Category:Aviation articles needing infoboxes. See if you can clear it. Or, measure your success in reducing it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:10, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Please respond to the thread I have started there. LadyofShalott 12:01, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
LL2, I've speedily deleted User:LikeLakers2/asteroids/asteroids.js, User:LikeLakers2/asteroids2.js and User:LikeLakers2/asteroids/excanvas.js. I guess it's ok if you're here only to tidy and update bits of template code and such, but while all kinds of cool stuff can be done with JS here, posting games with no meaningful educational value having to do with building the encyclopedia strays beyond the bounds of what's allowed here. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Following that, I deleted User:LikeLakers2/asteroids.js. LadyofShalott 16:43, 10 October 2011 (UTC)